Guild Wars 2

My Dragon Jade weapons now bear Zojja’s weapon prefix. Eugh.

Also my Dreadnought armor is now called Flame Legion armor…I really hate it!

Last time I logged in and played before this update was a week or so. I exited the game before I could clear out my inventory (was doing events in Orr).

2 days ago I log in and I notice the Zap in my inventory. I really don’t know what’s funnier, the fact I didn’t register that I got a kitten precursor, or the fact that I almost sold it by accident when clearing my inventory. I’ll probably never know which mob dropped it – but it’s nice having lots of gold for once :P

I agree it’s really sexist and immature. Good thing I play a Charr.

RoxBuryNine.4210:

My male Sylavri aren’t gay! However, I have to agree that the detail on many of the minis in the last two sets is disappointing. Even Lord Faren lost his looks.

Except they all are ;D

And yea some minis look terrible tbh. I don’t think I’ll ever buy special minis from the boxes again that are tied to certain LS release like the Scarlet’s champs ones…they look absolutely terrible up close. It’s like they didn’t even try to make it look decent.

Not sure where to post this but, when I bought the mini Tybalt from trade post, I didn’t expect him to have a female tail , and such a creepy dead face:

Can somebody please fix this?

Depends on which class you play I guess.

As a warrior I enjoy killing stuff underwater because it’s really fast – contrast to my brother for example, he complains every time that his elementalist is severely underpowered under water.

We once did a test…I only used auto-attack to kill one mob, he used all of his skills on another one of the same type. I killed it faster just with auto attack while he used all of his skills and the mob had only half of its health reduced – and we are fully geared and put same boons etc.

So I guess it’s more of an issue of balance between professions for underwater combat which sucks.

cranos.5913:

Zerg zerg zerg zerg… Random cutscene without real lore … zerg zerg zerg zerg

Oh kitten please no more zerg events

Then don’t play one. I’m glad Charr don’t have any fan service. They’re kittenes.

Wow

This is truly a welcome thing….

Very nice try. :P

FLiP.7680:

I didn’t like that they removed the repair cost. Now ppl will care even less if they die. -.-
If wp cost is removed then they won’t penalise the player for being unresponsible and don’t pay attention to what can kill em.

Yeah I always think to myself "oh kitten ! now I have to pay to repair my armor now that I’m dead! " except not..it was a trivial fee and removing costs mean almost nothing.

And it’s not like you always die due to your own fault. Sometimes a single member in a group can screw things up and result in a wipe, a simple lapse, or in most usual case, the lag. Lag has got me killed more then anything..

Indeed, yes. “Facepalm” emote is something I wish I had on many occasions :P

Just please shut it for once and enjoy the changes they brought which we’ve been asking since beginning, oh my Dwaynna.

Thank you ANet for all the awesome changes!

Curtis Johnson.8456:

Awbee.8405:

Curtis Johnson.8456:

A little added note here, Outfits will still respect the ‘hide helm’ toggle so you can absolutely wear Wintersday or Mad King outfit without the hat or pumpkin.

But we want to dye them! And mix them up with other items!

Behold the beauty of an Asura with a pink wintersday outfit and a pink quaggan hat. This has been possible for a year, and now it suddenly isn’t anymore? I thought this patch was supposed to allow us more flexibility with armor? Seriously, at least tell us why you are doing this. As it is now, I can only assume that you just hate cute Asura in pink Wintersday outfits and pink Quaggan hats. And that’s evil.

Outfits can still be dyed, They will have up to 4 dye channels depending on the outfit.

Sorry about the mix-and-match. Converting things to be armor and combat compatible did come with some trade-offs. For the most part we tried to favor mixing with armor slots and skins (a lot more possible combinations). Hopefully we’ll see more consistently usable customization now that part of it isn’t hidden in town clothes that get turned off every fight. Outfits come as a set and equip as a set with the added benefit of not costing charges or requiring items to apply onto additional characters.

At the risk of sounding too harsh I’ll say this: if we cant mix outfits anymore, you better provide kitten good looking outfits in the future. NO clipping, especially tail clipping, NO exaggerated differences between male and female clothes. I could go on…

Reason why I say this is because there hasn’t been a single set of “outfits” as you now call them that I liked as a whole. Wearing town clothes means little to me, but I can definitely understand the concerns and disappointment of people who like to mix them. It should be self-explanatory as to why.

This is almost the same as not letting us mix armor sets.

I have 2-3 bought town clothes, one is mad kings outfit for my charr, cook’s outfit (because it suits them kinda nice) and reading glasses for my human. But I dyed those glasses purple, because it’s kinda cute, and inrl I also wear similar looking glasses. What they’re going to revert back to boring old grey and I won’t be able to dye it?

ArenaNET – please, reconsider. Limiting mixing of town clothes and not allowing your customers to dye individual old pieces will backfire. There is no logic, no reason behind this change, unless you have some technical difficulties with the new wardrobe system that doesn’t allow you to create separate town clothes tab for mixing. If something like that is the case, you need to work better. Don’t wanna sound pompous or anything, but we’ve been hearing “we can’t do this and that due to tech limitations” quite often by now.

You have our all support, and thousands of players are supporting you via gem store, in hoping that our donations will help you create a better game. And you are, definitely. But this whole town clothing fiasco will do nothing but damage you, and your customers, especially people who paid real money, not gold, on items. Expect to see a lot of demands for refunds.

We just want a sensible explanation, not “it had to be done, live with it”. Sorry that won’t do – if something’s wrong, share it with us, so we can give you ideas. Stop being so secretive and communicate with us months prior to big changes like these, especially when you highlight that the wardrobe system was planned months ago. Did you really, honestly expect a positive feedback on this? Or you think it’s safe to announce big unwanted changes few weeks before update?

Maybe there is still hope to change things?

There has to be a better solution to this.

Spiderman.4098:

CharrGirl.7896:

runeblade.7514:

CharrGirl.7896:

Yes! Now give us account-bound minipets and I’ll be the happiest person ever :P

How about no?

And why not? If you can purchase any skin from gem store and it will be available on each character, why not the same with minipets?

Aren’t they already account bound? You just pull them from your collection.

Yeah but you can’t have more then one. If I buy a minipet pack related to some event like say, Wintersday mini pack, I’d like to have all those minis accessible on all my characters. Savy?

runeblade.7514:

CharrGirl.7896:

Yes! Now give us account-bound minipets and I’ll be the happiest person ever :P

How about no?

And why not? If you can purchase any skin from gem store and it will be available on each character, why not the same with minipets?

Yes! Now give us account-bound minipets and I’ll be the happiest person ever :P

Getting 5 new traits for each class is a good and welcomed update.

But can we expect new utility skills soon? I’d love me some change!

I’ve been waiting for something like this since release truly, gj!

I like the idea of permanent logging/harvesting/mining tools but the only thing that’s stopping me from buying them are (in my opinion) ridiculous effects that come with it.

I really don’t want volcanos to erupt every time I mine, or see lightning bolts every time I chop down wood…

Can we get a version of permanent tools without any special effects please?

Aedelric.1287:

Anyway, we are not stinky, it is a healthy natural musk.

Indeedy. Especially if you’re a charr. How do you think a bucketload of charr in one room smells like? Not like roses im sure Give Kas a break haha

I still don’t understand why it was made, even after carefully reading 2 times about it.

Nerfing critical damage users won’t make em want to play other builds that rely less on damage any more – even if the damage won’t be overall that much smaller. If nothing else, it will make me want to stack up as much ferocity as I can, and go full dps once again. If I had a say in it, I’d rather boost conditional damage or something.

So unless somebody has a…better explanation to me this was a nonsensical change.

https://soundcloud.com/that_shaman/from-the-cutting-room-floor

Sound files from different ending ._.

So.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/20w3zg/spoilers_how_the_living_story_ending_was_changed/

If we’re to believe this the original ending to the LS season 1 would be different but changes were made. Seems the talk would be more serious, at least the threat awareness? Also, Scarlet would explain everything. Why oh why did you make Braham stop her from telling us the entire plot? Argh.

Note to self: Never, ever build an entire city out of wood.

Qawsada.4251:

VincentDW.9376:

Please find a different writer for season 2.

You can thank the writer Angel McCoy for this. Not only she was the writer for the Living Story, she is also retconning a ton of crap from GW 1!

CharrGirl.7896:

I agree we should get more answers but I get the feeling we’ll get those in the new season (I hope).

How about we get a different writer and just leave everything that happen in the first Living Story out in the trash bin? Seriously, other than the Zephyr Sanctum, NOTHING was worth redeemable in this horrible fanfic they call Scarlet’s story.

Hey I’m not defending it. The writing did get better, but if you think you can do a better job, apply there, or I don’t know write an angry mail to Anet demanding somebody to be fired. Either way it’s far fetched.

Well, are you really that surprised? They did announce a “small feature patch”, – nothing major. If you were expecting a big update, blame yourself for not informing yourself. :P

I agree we should get more answers but I get the feeling we’ll get those in the new season (I hope).

That being said, I really want the new storyline to be shrouded in less mystery.

Mini Firefly please!

bullyrook.2165:

One thing I do feel needs to be cleared up. When I said “advocate heterosexuality”, I really did mean it as a choice. A stance of acceptance with non-hostile disagreement has yet to be studied in its effects.

Don’t think I quite understand what you’re saying here, maybe my english sucks but…

It’s most definitely not a choice. I never “chose” to be heterosexual, or just decided at one point that I was, it just comes to you naturally. Just as with homosexuality.

That was a very well thought out post bullyrook but next time please restrain using re-formulated quotes you drew from other articles to express your opinions . I could name at least 3 I read that use the exact same words.

That being said I agree with your logic. Everything else is beyond logic and doesn’t deserve to be questioned.

Thobek.1730:

If you look at gamestatistics survey roughly about 90% of the player base is male. I think it would be prudent to have a few more male characters in the game that aren’t stupid, dimwitted or there for comic relief. Its almost insulting.

I call bullkitten on that statistic, please correct me if I’m wrong.

Considering the huge number of female players I’ve encountered during my GW2 gameplay, I don’t believe I fall in to the 10% group.

Waiting ages for a monk to show up so I can do a dungeon?

Blaming everything on tank or healer whenever something goes wrong?

Yah, totally miss it.

skillze.7689:

did you have any infusions in them when you tried to equip it ?

Yeah I infused it with precise infusion and it wouldn’t let me :/

I think you can’t. I bought 2 rings of death and tried to equip but it wouldn’t let me. No idea why basically wasted +30 laurels. I kittened myself over big time, so ye have been warned.

I fail to see how tolerance, open mind and acceptance should be questioned at all.

Bubi.7942:

CharrGirl.7896:

Bubi.7942:

Riot Inducer.8964:

I have a question, why the hell does it matter either way? Would Jory or Kas being male change the story in any way?

For me: yes. I would have never seen the end of the story, cause I would have probably thrown up and put down the game.

When that happens, mail me your items plox.

Let’s hope it won’t.

Speak for yourself dude I’d like to see that.

Faowri.4159:

It is extremely important for people to be able to see themselves represented positively in the media they consume. I’m fully aware that Jory and Kas are not real people, but their sexual identities and relationship represent the experiences of a set of real people, so excluding them amounts to being exclusive of part of your player base. It’s the same reason it’s important to have good/numerous female characters, and characters (where human xD) of diverse races.

Again, if your stance is that “it’s just a game”, “it’s just fiction” and representation doesn’t matter, then that’s another point for mutual disagreement so I won’t push that, but I did want to clarify what I meant.

Well said. I had no problem at all with them, even though as a straight female “I shouldn’t be able to relate to them”. Well I did. You just gotta look past the outer shell and ignore that one side has an extra pair of…. cough Who cares…

Seeing posts as “it was forced on me”, or “Majory should have been a man”, honestly make me sick.

Bubi.7942:

Riot Inducer.8964:

I have a question, why the hell does it matter either way? Would Jory or Kas being male change the story in any way?

For me: yes. I would have never seen the end of the story, cause I would have probably thrown up and put down the game.

When that happens, mail me your items plox.

Lasica.5068:

Leshain.6720:

Conclusion: To be fair you missed my point entirely. My point is “Balance” not dominance.

The only time this cry for “balance” seems to come up is when there are more female characters in a game.

Do you know how many of the top 25 games released last year had females as the main characters? One single solitary game (Tomb Raider). Where were the cries for balance then?

And here we have GW2 with a higher than normal proportion of female NPCs (not even main characters, as your character is arguably the hero of the story, but in a cast of side characters) and suddenly it becomes “Oh no, where are the male characters, won’t somebody think about the balance. Please add male characters so we can relate to them.”

Well said. If I were to specifically choose games to play with characters I could relate to based on my gender, I wouldn’t play games at all. This last Tomb Raider game is one of the rare few where you have a female protagonist. Nearly every other good, story-driven game has more male then female characters. (Few on my mind: Bio-shock series, Half Life series, Wolf Among Us, Walking Dead, etc.)

I just learned to ignore it and enjoy the story as a whole, instead of dwelling on how many females are there in comparison to males.

kta.6502:

Lasica.5068:

I was introduced to Majory and Kasmeer during the Nightmare Begins update. I’ve seen all the story instances involving our lesbian pair from that point on, but most of the stuff was involving the story, not romantic scenes. The relationship was ambiguous until the current update. The only way I know that the relationship is sexualized is because of the french kiss. Filmmakers in the US often use the kiss to symbolize a sexual relationship without resorting to bedroom scenes. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_kiss for more info)

Why I stress the need for building up healthy LGBT relationships: It’s no secret in the US that the LGBT relationships (fiction and non-fictional) are often exploited for cheap porn. Hollywood does this all the time to get people to pay for theater seats or watch their shows. The problem with portrayals that focus on only sex is that the religious right uses these images to say that the LGBT community is perverted and often use the images to hamper the LGBT rights. I’m a human right activist in RL, so I hate it when the media spreads images that give the haters fuel to deny LGBT people their rights.

I’m sorry…what? How do you know it was a frigging french kiss? They barely have the tech atm to animate anything like that. It was more like a 2 second peck on the lips more then anything…

Also this isn’t a US Hollywood studio. What you’re describing is completely different then what was shown in this game. This isn’t about “exploiting characters for the sake of cheap porn”.

Also kiss = sex? Really? And what kind of relationship, in it’s core, isn’t part sexualized? Last time I checked, we’re humans, not robots, and that’s what people do when they’re in a relationship. You’re thinking way, way too hard about this…

My god some people sure are blowing this out of proportion. I almost feel sorry for Anet at this point, hopefully they won’t feel discouraged from evolving their writing of these characters.

If I had to give one tip, that would be don’t make it difficult for average speedy player to follow their conversations. I kinda sort of learned that if I wanted to learn more about characters I have to stick around their NPC-s and wait for a convo to pop up. It’s no wonder some people failed to pick up the vibes then? Maybe make it easier to follow somehow.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

bullyrook.2165:

No, the core question is “why must I agree and/or support you?”

No, seriously, the real concern now is why you keep ducking the question or deflecting it. That’s getting irritating to watch continue, so either decline to answer it or leave it alone. And this is coming from someone who doesn’t really have a personal problem with your posts yet.

Well it is obvious he is avoiding the question because he’s trying to be polite as possible, and doesn’t wish to foil the tread with “I think it’s wrong because I don’t like it/they don’t produce children” or whatever reason I heard people say.

Well, now you know how we females feel with just about any other game or movie which has a predominant male cast. This is refreshing for once.

bullyrook.2165:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

If you have trouble with the idea of two people of the same sex loving each other, due to your beliefs, then the problem is with your beliefs, not with the writing.

There is no logical reason not to agree with two people loving each other, regardless of their sex. There are only illogical reasons. Get rid of the illogic, and embrace reason.

You must resort to insulting me when I never insulted you? To get back on topic, I do not appreciate of this bit of the story. I want GW2 as it was when I first signed on. I suspect this thread will be locked by the devs soon anyway.

She wasn’t insulting you she pretty much said that the problem is intolerance not the writing. So, how did GW2 look like when you first signed on?

If I had to nitpick I’d rather complain about all those crappy new armors they’re adding in gem store, like the zodiac one, but that’s the matter of taste.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sousuke.7268:

The simple fact that mods have not locked this hatefilled charade of homophobia is disturbing to say the least.

The only post in this topic so far that seems hate-filled, seems to be this one. ^

I think a lot of players have expressed in very respectful and reasonable ways, why they felt the kiss scene felt forced and out of place. I do not believe they deserve to have homophobic labels pasted on their foreheads for expressing that opinion.

By " a lot" of people you mean the vocal minority which probably consists of 10% player base or even less? And even less then that in fact, since only a few replied to this thread? I’m no expert. If you want to run full statistics you’d need to survey every single player out there and we’ll see how it goes lol.

I really like most of your posts truly, and admire em. But. You’ve been consistently repeating the same thing in this and every other thread about Kas and Jory how it’s forced, out of place, etc etc. I know that some people share your views. I don’t – and that’s fine. Plus , you are extremely fixated on one thing and choose to ignore the other side.

What’s becoming tiresome is this repetitiveness. In the end what are you, and other people who don’t like it going to do? Complain about this relationship till one of them dies? Complain every single time they get screen time? Does a mere 2 second kiss of relief really deserve this much attention?

We have a dragon on the loose people!

There is simply no end to this, but I would implore you that you just stop and think for a second, what this means to people who are like them, and who ever so rarely get to be in the spotlight.

Let there be positive feedback for once. I can only imagine how homosexuals feel about this negativity, after literally everything that is hetero being forced down their throats, to actively discuss in a thread with so much bashing

redslion.9675:

CharrGirl.7896:

None of ya’ll would be raging for this long if it was a hetero couple kiss. Nuff said.

I would. I hate kisses in media.

Then close your eyes and shield your senses from the despicable act of kissing and pretend it doesn’t happen :P

None of ya’ll would be raging for this long if it was a hetero couple kiss. Nuff said.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Yes. They. Are.

What happened here is the same as you getting “The Big Kiss” in a movie between two people of different genders. With moderately less fanfare (no swelling music in the soundtrack, no orbiting camera and slow clap…).

I respectfully disagree. It felt to me like they were going for “the money shot”. As if everything had been leading up to that kiss. It was almost as if the writers felt the need to prove that they really are a romantic couple, and that yes, they’re not afraid to show it.

That’s why to me it felt forced and heavy handed. I don’t mind their decision to include it, and I think the intention is good. But it seems to me that the writers are still struggling with how to handle the concept of homosexual relationships in a videogame.

When ever videogame writers tackle these sorts of topics, it often feel like they are struggling to find a sheet of paper, and then knock over the vial of ink by accident.

Vexander.9850:

Call me crazy, but if my lover came back from the brink of death my first instinct would be to get them out of the -very- dangerous place and to the nearest Doctor ASAP. That’s just me. Shrugs

Which is why you should stop calling on other people or characters that would do otherwise as something that is “out of place” because you have a different mindset about those things. It’s pointless to argue about it.

panzer.6034:

Vexander.9850:

Anyways, there’s a time and a place for those sort of scenes as well in my opinion. I don’t think that was the time or the place. If you removed that scene from the mini dungeon, does it really change anything? Does it affect its moods or atmosphere? Not really. That kiss would have been better placed in a celebration.

In a situation like this, i would apply the “if the gender/orientation was swapped, how would it look?” test. If it were a man who just saw his female lover seemingly come back from the dead in his arms immediately after a climactic battle, i’d almost expect him to kiss her. It seems strange to expect them to wait till some later time to show strong emotion. Right when your partner comes back from death’s door is exactly when it makes sense to hold them close and kiss them.

Exactly. I would have done the same. It’s only natural thing to do.