Guild Wars 2

They’re a couple and they are going to be doing suggestive couple things at night, like… pillow fights and watching Oprah. Seriously :P

Wheezy.2846:

CharrGirl.7896:

She reminds me of little sisters from Bioshock tbh.

And can every1 stop calling the new group DE 2.0 already?

What’s wrong with DE 2.0? They kind of are…. and they’re better in most ways. (IE we feel like a team during living world stuff rather than us being the followers. *cough*Trahearne*cough*)

I know but I read somewhere that devs confirmed them NOT to be the new DE, so it just annoys me when people assume they are >.<

She reminds me of little sisters from Bioshock tbh.

And can every1 stop calling the new group DE 2.0 already?

I was there and I can confirm this!

I want to pitch in and say that I really liked the conversations between characters

The voice acting as usual is great. It really did felt genuine and that new asura kid is fun. Always good to have a kid character in your story.

Rox and Braham – they’re slowly dividing and it’s obvious that it’s being set up for Rox to choose between Braham and her new warband. Whatever she chooses in the end I hope it plays of in an awesome fashion, because I finally started liking those two as characters, and have become interested in how this character dynamic plays out.

Rytlock and Logan – why didn’t they have a conversation with each other? Why were they at that beach anyway? It’s always good to see the DE members getting involved in the LS but they need to talk more between each other.

Marjory and Kasmeer – one big exposition festival :P Don’t take me wrong I like their characters a lot but this sort of conversation should be played out differently. It felt out of place and time, and was just thrown in there to make us feel sorry for Kas. The voice acting was great of course, always love hearing more of them, but this conversation should have played out in their bar, or I dunno – just felt out of place. Other then that, good to know more about them and they are completely sweet together

If anyone at Anet reads this I would like to say good job on those conversations. Few hiccups here and there as before mentioned out of place Kas/Jory talk, and Logan/Rylock ignoring each other, but other then that it felt great, and we got more theories about the dragons.

It is this kind of script mixed with good voice acting that makes me truly wish that we had proper cut scenes. You can bring so much more emotions that way, and overall presentation needs to be more cinematic! Instead of feeling like a casual observer, I want to feel like I’m actually there and listening to those guys talking. You don’t need fancy cut scenes composed form concept art, just make simple ones like you did before (tower of nightmares with Kas and Jory, various personal story cutscenes etc.) Make characters take their time and speak to each other and express their feelings through scripted cut scenes instead they just appear like everyday NPC-s.

Or maybe you can make a standard cutscene like in the personal story with artwork in the background. Anything really, would be better then this.

That is basically my only problem with it. Presentation.

I would really, really like if every conversation in those story instances was cinematic cutscene like before. Keep the “NPC talk” for more casual, aftermath talk, like you did in tower of nightmares. This seemed like a really important character growth sequence, and with a little bit more effort and push in the right direction you can truly make it stand out.

For example, take Mass Effect 2 cut scenes and see if something like that would work. I would throw all my money at you if you could animate characters to move like that.

Oh and, next time, please stick with story instances that are automatically available to your character as soon as you log in/complete something without having to wait for a random event to finish. It worked for tower of nightmares because it was our own personal story instance inside, this way it’s going to cause a lot of people frustration. Never, ever set a timed content like that where you’re gonna tell a story.

Cheers!

Can somebody enlighten me where is the new story instance?

Nothing on my map indicates anything eh

Has anyone have slightest idea how to start this event?

The map shows a specific waypoint but nothing is going on there.

I am utterly confused by this update and lack of guidelines as to where to go and what to do.

Mochann.5298:

LittleLepton.8915:

Just curious, why is Faren not on this list?
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Because nobody buys his mini.

Lies, I saw him in a dungeon run recently it was majestic.

I’m actually fine with a little teaser. Makes you wonder about whats more to come. Besides, you’ll get release notes soon after they patch it.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

CharrGirl.7896:

If nothing, to me at least, it felt way better then Logan. In personal story he made sure to remind you in every other sentence that he has to protect the queen. Now that gets annoying after a while… even during the LS his unhealthy obsession didn’t stop.

That guy takes his job way too seriously. He needs a vacation, like Kiel got. I mean, it worked out for her right?

Kiel will be the death of us

I don’t understand when people say it feels forced. We didn’t get any dialogue of them openly talking about it, no cut scenes that were related to anything besides the LS story, no forced kiss scenes etc. as shows often like to hammer in "hey they totally are a couple and they like each other! " (I’m looking at you, Legend of Korra)…

If nothing, to me at least, it felt way better then Logan. In personal story he made sure to remind you in every other sentence that he has to protect the queen. Now that gets annoying after a while… even during the LS his unhealthy obsession didn’t stop.

kokiman.2364:

CharrGirl.7896:

Well, the most logical thing would be to cut the chains it holds it, maybe freeze its feet so it can’t move, or even better freeze the ground beneath its giant high heels and watch the fun :P

But Charr should totally bring their tanks and just nuke the kitten out of it. I mean they have a bunch of those lying around in Black Citadel might as well use em no?

I have another idea, instead of cutting the chains (which will not happen, I think) we can climb the chains and enter that flying thing!

Heh, good idea but you think that Scarlet won’t drop any bombs from below if you tried to do that? ;D

Well, the most logical thing would be to cut the chains it holds it, maybe freeze its feet so it can’t move, or even better freeze the ground beneath its giant high heels and watch the fun :P

But Charr should totally bring their tanks and just nuke the kitten out of it. I mean they have a bunch of those lying around in Black Citadel might as well use em no?

It would make me stop playing.

Palador.2170:

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

I approve of this.

I want to see the light.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

So we are now insulting the fact that the game has strong female characters? I for one find it really refreshing to be playing in a world where a guy doesn’t have to be the one who figures everything out and saves the day.

I don’t even pay attention to that but I gotta agree. If it were the other way around nobody would even mention it. Cuz it is “sorta expected”.

Illi.3647:

Shiren.9532:

When talking about it, they said Canach is a minor character (as is Kiel) while the new team are major characters. This implies that Canach won’t join the team. There is a male asura in the coming update who could be a new member, and we still haven’t met E yet. It’s possible that E is a sylvari (even an asura, although that’s a stretch).

They said however that they have plans for him in the livestream…But I don´t think he´ll make a good match for this kind of group. More of him will come, yes, but I hope not in this way.
I´m not so keen on seeing new Destiny´s Edge, was refusing to accept something like that the entire time, but with that asura comming, it´s actually happening for sure. But if they kill of Kasmeer, so that it´ll be as paralel to Snaff…that´ll be just stupid. If there are too many paralels, it´l not be believable at all.

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Yah I agree. Killing one off just to pull out the new DE would be stupid. Besides, until they officially state that the new group is indeed the DE 2.0 or something, I don’t think they will just kill one of them off so easily.
If you watch the LS 2013 live stream, they indeed say that they like those characters and they actually read fan works as an inspiration and to give players more what they want. I don’t think anybody wants any of those new characters killed off just to meet some kind of quota…it would be far too predictable and I personally am not a fan of “develop a character just so we could kill them off so you can feel sorry/invested” type of bs anymore. I’ve seen it too many times..most writers use that for shock value if nothing else.

Take Tybalt for example. His death was so pointless. When you think about it, how exactly did he “hold off” the undead behind those doors? He didn’t. The doors closed, and everybody else escaped. He took a good few minutes to talk with your character before the suicide…it’s not like he rushed off heroically in midst of tight battle to save everybody, he just casually walked through those gates and then closed them. Ofc, this goes for every mentor but Tibby was most likeable. So IMO, it was done for pure shock value. He’s probably the only really nicely developed and likeable character in the game…then they just killed him off. And gave us the bore fest known as Trahearne.

See, this is why I’m personally against killing off good characters. Not generally but in specific situations like these…and it’s so rare these days to find a good story that will have a great character live through disaster and come out victorious and developed. Usually they use death as a tool of “development” or if the character is “beyond redemption”. So yah, leave those new characters alone Anet and if you ever (I hope not) plan to kill one of them off, at least give us a good substitute. Guess I follow too many stories like Game of Thrones/Attack on Titan where I cringe at every new chapter in fear that one of my favorite characters is going to die next, since killing off characters seems to be popular now…

It worked, thanks:)

So a few months back I transferred to the Riverside server (EU) so I can do my map completion in WvW.

My home server is Desolation and I guested rarely on it while I was on the new server.

So basically now I bought 800 gems + gave over 100 gold to transfer back to Desolation but here’s the problem: on the main character selection, when I select my server to transfer back to it says “Account balance: 0”. Which is weird because I just got 1800 gems in my wallet. Can somebody explain what’s going on?

Personally I hope it’s easier then Tequatl. I never managed to defeat him. The premise of a large world boss where you have to be in a specific server, specific guild, and specific overflow even to get a remote chance of defeating it kills the purpose of “free for all” content they promised at the launch. I get the purpose behind it, and I understand what they were trying to accomplish with it but if you ask me, it terribly broken atm.

If this trend continues, they need to think long and hard before implementing such bosses/changes because it’s apparent that this type of content is not available to the majority of players. I think that such encounters should be reserved for some kind of elite dungeons like FoW/UW and others from GW1 used to be.

That being said I am not too excited about those new bosses but we’ll see how it plays out. Hopefully they learned some of their mistakes with Teq.

Romo.3709:

Levetty.1279:

Kasmeer dies and I quit the game.

Mentors dying was more than enough. Leave Kasmeer alone. Kill off Trehearne or Logan. In other words characters we have no sympathy for. Hell, I had to look up spelling on the salad dude’s name because is so badly spelled out. But do not kill Kasmeer.

I would be bummed if they killed of Logan simply because of that sweet awesome voice of his :P But Trahearne sure we can have him sacrifice himself as a salad for the new dragon. Our mentors deaths were pointless anyway…so yeah no more death Anet:P Everybody, quit jinxing Kasmeer already!

DarksunG.9537:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

DarksunG.9537:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

And not everybody turns Lord Faren down, from my memories of the Human Noble storyline he actually has a decentish success rate with women.

Not sure where you’re getting that. Like most males in the game he is frequently bat down by women. The entirety of the Kasmeer /Faren dialog was her mocking his idiocy. Even when the Countess says something good about him it’s a mocking tone.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/A_Society_Function
It’s during that story mission – none of the side dialogue is on the wiki page though, just the key dialogue… Pretty sure there are other bits, but once again they aren’t on the wiki – it seems like a lot of non central dialogue isn’t there >.>

Of course it could just be me remembering wrong, memory is not flawless.

Right, i just don’t remember anything saying, or more importantly, showing that women think well of him. Which isn’t saying much since that’s common in this game.

I dont get it…what is common in this game?

Caveth.3268:

Why do the races have to be chosen from the playable 5? Why can’t a main npc character be a Largos, a Kodan or a Tengu?

Hmm as an introduction to a new playable race, that would be cool!

As fun as it sounds, what makes everybody think that they’re really the new DE? Did the devs say something or? I would personally like if the old DE got involved in the living story more.

zamalek.2154:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

It feels more like blatant fan-service to me.

• Xukavi.4320 > if the part “it will sting, but brings me joy” is referring to herself.
• Kasmeer has been stung by the toxin already.

In that case the relationship would be setting up a very interesting interaction: considering that Maj/Kas could have been released as females before the plans to have Maj lose her love partner, man or woman, to Scarlet – if that is now actually the plan.

Ugh, do not want. Those two are bout the only characters I like since Tybalt and yeah do I need to say more?

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Cerai.9741:

So they said it was a love story? I can’t find the livestream, but I would be surprised and a bit dissapointed if it were true. Marjorie and Kasmeer felt a bit like Elsa and Anna from the new Frozen movie. Strong but definitely considered sisterly love. (as much as fans would like it to not be) Could they have meant that kind of true, unbiased, sisterly love? Again, I can’t find the stream so I can’t read into it but its not like they couldn’t go either way with the love story. The lesbian story just feels… a bit overdone in my opinion.

Their relationship definitely isn’t sisterly. Kasmeer has said a LOT of things to hint that she has romantic feelings fore Majory. But Majory has never once indicated that these feelings are returned.

Funny I always thought it was the other way around. With Marjory calling her pet names, liking the fact she’s wearing illusionary clothing etc.

MastaNeenja.1537:

I’m all for them introducing any new dungeons or lasting content at this point, preferably dungeons though. With new tokens and armor. Heck in this case we could have karka armor and weapons, why not?

Yeah this is exactly what I mean. We have karka weapons and all and they should have come packed with a new cave-like dungeon or something. I don’t like them but it’s tons better then all new weapon and armor skins being through gem store :/

Well even though you say you’re gay your opinion seems awfully biased. I mean does it matter in the end? They’re doing it because they can, not because girlxgirl = hot. If it’s a love story that’s more important then simple fan service. Blowing it way out of proportion imo.

Sunshine.4680:

Penguin.5197:

Paulytnz.7619:

Sounds like it could possibly be dragon related then! O.O

Nah everybody hopes its a dragon. I’m rooting for her in becoming our ally and joining that new group forming up that has Rox and Braham in it. They still need a sylvari

I hope not, enemies becoming allies is so played out. I also wonder if every group HAS to have one of every race in it, seems silly.

Tyrian political correctness

Well this better end with a dragon…a wurm boss? Really? Yuck.

Now here’s what I’ve been thinking: wouldn’t it be a great way to introduce new dungeons in the future via living story updates?

I always thought of Southsun Cove as a missed opportunity. You could have ended that whole story update about karka invasion with a dungeon Have living story end with a story mode of a new dungeon, and after the update the traditional explorable mode with multiple paths can open. You keep the same model you have with every other dungeon, and this way you can introduce new dungeons through living story updates.

Thoughts?

It’s not that zerkers are too powerful but that the others feel useless in comparrison.

You should boost other builds instead of nerfing zerkers. To me it’s fun to play a zerker because it’s really risky since I have no defense stats, so I have to rely on properly timing and switching skills and dodging. I spent a lot of time and gold in game to build a character that can kill fast inside and outside dungeons and if you nerf that that would probably be a sign to stop playing. It would stop being fun. If you make it so that it takes ages to kill a mob, wouldn’t that just make it even more annoying?

Don’t make us “swing swords” if you know what I mean.

Not only that but also weather effects that aren’t zone-bound would be nice.

lordkrall.7241:

CharrGirl.7896:

“Ancient jotun stelae indicate that throughout prehistory, the Elder Dragons have gone through cycles of awakening, destruction, and hibernation, each time ending an era of life in Tyria and bringing forth a new one.”

“What knowledge we have of the Elder Dragons comes from the survivors of the previous cycle of awakening, over 11,000 years ago. "

So technically dragons are like the Reapers from Mass Effect series. Each cycle they awake, they destroy Tyria until a new race arrives. That being said how exactly did we kill off Zhaitan so easily? Wouldn’t he just regenerate and rise up again? It would make no sense to kill of dragons so easily now… are they stepping on their own lore now?

They don’t destroy Tyria. They eat up the excessive magic and then go back to sleep. There are after all races that have survived earlier ED cycles (but then again they were hidden by Glint).

We didn’t kill of Zhaitan easily. It took a massive cooperation between all the major and several minor races of Tyria including a full-scale invasion, starving and blinding it by killing off its food and spies. Using completely new and unique technology and so on.

So just because the actual fight against the mob Zhaitan is easy, doesn’t mean it didn’t take massive amount of actual work to get it done. It was very weakened when we faced it after all.

There is nothing that implies that Elder Dragons are immortal or somehow reforms if they are destroyed.

Yeah, “massive cooperation”. Spam 1 button, nuke him to death without any tactic whatsoever. I didn’t buy it at all, it was just a lazy execution.

And if they dont “destroy” Tyria, what’s with the whole “excinction” thing. Even if they dont literally burn the world to crisp, it’s obvious they only exist to destroy whatever dominant race is on the planet every 10k years.

Something as powerful as that should NOT be destroyed off so easily as Zhaitan. I even actually thought that since it’s an undead dragon, made from hundreds of little dragons, that it would just re-assemble and rise up again. Really, I’m all up for new dragons, but they should at least put up a godkitten fight. And involve more tactics then spamming 1 button. Frigging dungeon bosses are harder then the game end boss.

Samuli.7852:

My question is: who is the speaker? Maybe a new character in the living story? We’ve had that same female voice in the last few living story patch videos, why change it now, near to the end of living story season 1?

Sounds like Brahams voice actor to me

“Ancient jotun stelae indicate that throughout prehistory, the Elder Dragons have gone through cycles of awakening, destruction, and hibernation, each time ending an era of life in Tyria and bringing forth a new one.”

“What knowledge we have of the Elder Dragons comes from the survivors of the previous cycle of awakening, over 11,000 years ago. "

So technically dragons are like the Reapers from Mass Effect series. Each cycle they awake, they destroy Tyria until a new race arrives. That being said how exactly did we kill off Zhaitan so easily? Wouldn’t he just regenerate and rise up again? It would make no sense to kill of dragons so easily now… are they stepping on their own lore now?

Santa noooo!

Keenan Sieg.1493:

Hey everyone, we’re looking into this now. Could you name any specific NPCs or lines that you’ve heard this issue occurring with? Thank you!

I’ve noticed it all over the place really. Inside buildings, outside, almost everywhere.

I actually thought it added a nice mood in forests and caves and dungeons, but totally weird in closed spaces like houses. So maybe you could keep the echo in forests and caves?

sirsquishy.8531:

Just wish they picked better voice actors for Kasmeer and Marjory.

Bandit-style Haha! You’re kidding, right?

It’s jokes and hints like this that makes it interesting and funny in the end :P

Also nobody mentioning what a dimwit she is? “Molting Alliance”, “carrot-choppers”, and apparent scarlet’s ability to “boil beets” :P

Yeh I kinda agree on this one. Aion was adding new faces for free…I don’t like this :/

At the second beacon I noticed that after 2-3 minutes of defending the NPC-s from the risen, the waves stop and you just have to wait till the event is finished. This is definitely a new bug, since I’ve done the event 2 days ago, and only yesterday and today it happened.

More specifically I’m talking about the new grenth hood and mini pets that are supposed to be for the Wintersday. And countless items before that, armor/weapon skins too.

For once, wouldn’t it be nice it we could obtain those items in -game? Via achievements, special quests that lead you to them, etc? It would feel more special, more rewarding. It would feel more like the original GW.

Now you can just buy them and to be honest that doesn’t feel very special or rewarding. We simply need more in-game events that will reward players for playing, not reward solely because we can whip out our wallets and spend on every new item. I mean if you want something, it feels like a race against time, because the gem prices are going up more and more each day, and I don’t think I can keep up anymore.

Fully agree, keep them both, develop them, give us more insight about their back story as the main story progresses, they are 10 times more interesting then Rox and Braham combined, which is saying something, since we saw them only 2 times so far, at dragon bash and now.

Anet, you have excellent ground for work here, do not ditch it now. Their conversations are really interesting, and the VO is great!

RyuDragnier.9476:

Anet, I hope you make the next living story about us with Marjory doing some detective work on what led Scarlet to evil. Interrogating people in Rata Sum, invade an Inquest lab to beat down a scientist who knew her, etc. Use that to flesh out her objectives, her motives, her real personality, etc. It’s the perfect time for us to play Batman.

Indeed. Anet, concentrate on Marjory and her back story have seen her only 2 times but jeez she has more character and has me interested more then Scarlet in all those months

It was cool but I wish we could just kill her already and proceed with the main lore of GW!

Nothing odd with 2 people flirting if that’s the case, I thought it was cute :P

That would be weird for us non-americans

Eh. Me too. But not because of Scarlet but because I thought they would finally start using some of their great lore from the original game for once. “Tower” and “Kessex Hills” – I seriously thought they’d do the Floating Wizard Tower that has been there since forever.

It just feels so random. No connection to the GW1 lore at all. Can we please go back to dragons or something?