DR flips whatever we can being outnumbered pretty much 20ish hours of the day on all maps. I played eb tonight for several hours we were outmanned buffed the entire east coast primetime tonight. I loged out around 10:30 est cus sf capped our whole side with a huge zerg and omega golems. Didn’t feel like being spawn camped or going to our boarderland which has the queue bug. For those of you who don’t know if your green your boarderland only lets in 40ish people tops before you hit queue and you are outmanned with a queue if the enemy has a large force there. We been green all 3 weeks so far.
Enjoyed the previous matchmaking system more. Yes we played the same servers over and over but atleast they were fun matchups. So far every week of league has been a blowout putting us against a much higher ranked/populated server. On top of that we been green every week and can’t get more than 40ish players on our boarderland cus of the bug.
FIGHTCLUB!!!! Thursday night 7:00PM FC windmill!!!
Rules are:
1. If you can, try not to run a cheese build. It shows no skill and I will simply run a cheese build on my cheese alt and you will see why to AT LEAST TRY avoid running one.
2. NO TROLLING. You will get owned or asked to be owned/emoted/harassed.
3. NO FINISHING! This has to be brought up everytime or else some dumb FC or SF guy will stomp. DR is pretty squared away on this stuff, I only complain about these two other scrub servers
Reason for FC BL: There is alot of heat in this thread and it’s coming down to skill vs skill. Best bet is to SPvP but half of you nerds won’t do that because more balance makes you realize how much you suck Anyways I picked FCBL because [Yarr] is the only guild that ever shows up. If I choose DR that’s like saying kitten you to all their roamers who ACTUALLY DO show up to these. I didn’t pick SF because I think that their forum warriors should join the fun and walking too far is no fun.
I might show up but its usually always mesmers and thieves which are like specific 1v1 characters/builds. I am to poor to make a character/gear set specifically for fight night.
Yea… we are one of the smallest WvW pops in bronze league NA and we have been green every match so far as if things weren’t stacked against us enough fighting servers that tanked to get in bronze league to not be able to bring remotely even numbers to the fight is just not right.
This. we are green 4 out of the 7 weeks and already the lowest or second lowest population server on NA. Here is how this week is going. http://i.imgur.com/KC4dwL7.jpg
Eh… in a way its kind of a fun matchup… we all know the outcome so just find silly things to do to enjoy yourself.
Been trying to do some roaming looking for some 1v1’s but nobody else roams except thieves. They know they can always shadow refuge and run away or reset until they win. So I usually just immobilize them and run off. Kinda fun trolling them making them chase me across half the map.
Serious question what do other non thieves feel about shadow refuge. Im cool with there lil 3 second stealths but shadow refuge is pretty much 6 seconds instantly and goes up to 15 seconds if they can stay inside for full duration. Pretty much every single thief in existence uses SR for a utility. Its basically a get out of jail free card. Its pretty much stronger than any other utility in the game or any elite skill. Its like a 95% chance to get out of any situation.
Please make the very simple change rangers have been asking for forever to make it so that are auto attack chain with mainhand sword doesn’t root us in place.
1- There really is just no reason to have a bronze league. Maybe in gold league where most all the servers have queues all the time on all the maps the matches might be interesting. In bronze league though the difference in population/coverage from the bottom of bronze league ranking servers and the top of bronze league ranking servers is insane. Every match so far has had one server that could easily take on the other 2 servers combined. Just no real need to have a league to tell us Sorrows Furnace or Gates of Madness have more players than us. We know this that’s why there ranked way higher than us.
Some decent changes to ranger which needs the most help but your still not hitting some of the core issues the class has. The pet ai is terrible in wvw. It doesn’t listen it goes off into a zerg and dies always. The f2 ability activates 2-10 seconds after I hit the f2 key. The pet doesn’t attack while chasing somebody one of the biggest problems.
Other than the bad pet ai some other much needed changes are the auto attack chain on main hand sword roots us in place please please change this. Hornet Sting takes to long before you evade backwards. The class needs a utility that gives us stability without having to have singet of the beastmaster trait. To many of our traits/skills/utilites give the near useless pet boons instead of us. Change fortifying bond so that any boon our pet gets is shared with us and make it a grandmaster trait instead of nature’s vengeance. Last shouts need some love sic em is to gimmicky guard is only good if it gives you regen from nature’s voice but my above fortifying bond change would help it give you protection. Protect me needs a cooldown decrease and search and rescue just needs to be reworked.
My pet is my Rez buddy in WvW…not much else.
Yup pet ai is so terrible I have moved to keeping my pet on passive all the time and just using pets that grant me boons like might or regen.
Yawns end of the first night for me SF has both other servers at 100 PPT. Im sure I will wake up to everything being blue and fully upgraded. Looks like I will be doing other things this week.
Some decent changes to ranger which needs the most help but your still not hitting some of the core issues the class has. The pet ai is terrible in wvw. It doesn’t listen it goes off into a zerg and dies always. The f2 ability activates 2-10 seconds after I hit the f2 key. The pet doesn’t attack while chasing somebody one of the biggest problems.
Other than the bad pet ai some other much needed changes are the auto attack chain on main hand sword roots us in place please please change this. Hornet Sting takes to long before you evade backwards. The class needs a utility that gives us stability without having to have singet of the beastmaster trait. To many of our traits/skills/utilites give the near useless pet boons instead of us. Change fortifying bond so that any boon our pet gets is shared with us and make it a grandmaster trait instead of nature’s vengeance. Last shouts need some love sic em is to gimmicky guard is only good if it gives you regen from nature’s voice but my above fortifying bond change would help it give you protection. Protect me needs a cooldown decrease and search and rescue just needs to be reworked.
I have played since beta. I have never done one single dungeon run period and never will. My game time has been 99.9 percent wvw/spvp. I and everybody else knows the rangers are terrible compared to any other class in both wvw/spvp. Again some builds can atleast survive awhile in a 1v1 but you wont kill a good player using those builds either. Ask any good pvper in guild wars to rank the classes and ranger will be last every time. Until such a time as the pet ai gets fixed or they allow you to permently stow your pet the ranger will continue to be bad at pvp.
Pretty much people are always gonna cry about there class trying to get it more buffs. Really the only class that needs some serious work and deserves the qq is ranger.
Aight first of all that video is of pve lol. Second yes I know some ranger builds like spirit our shout regen can be ok in 1v1s. I have been doing lots of duels against good players and I can usually stay alive a really long time and call it a draw but I can’t kill any of them either. However in group fights/wvw the ranger is awful I mean beyond awful. Unless you put your pet on passive it just runs into the zerg and dies in seconds. You pretty much can’t use your sword/dagger or axe/torch in a zerg cus you would have to be right in the middle and your pet and you will die. Rampage being basically the only form of stability is garbage you just get chained cced till dead. The pet skills take ages to actually activate and most are very meh. Your pet constantly chases people around but rarely ever actually attacks cus the player doesn’t stand still.
My warrior with a long bow is far superior to my ranger with a longbow. My thief is far better than my ranger in close quarters. My guardian and warrior are better tanks than a tanky ranger. He does nothing better than other classes.
I recently finished leveling up my ranger. He is just terrible compared to my war thief or Mesmer. Do you guys honestly think anet will ever ditch the pet since I doubt its even possible to make the ai useful. Gaming ai just isn’t up to par technology wise yet. It just amazes me how this class can be so terrible compared to all my other classes and anet hasn’t done anything about it in a year.
Guardians are fine. I still see more of them in wvw than warriors. Yes warriors and necros are the fotm. What does that always mean. It means they will be nerfed into the ground like every other fotm has been. So just be paitent and warriors will be garbage again when they nerf healing singet and nobody uses it anymore and they mess with the traits so you don’t get everything by taking 1 trait line in warrior.
As a main warrior I honestly think they just need a few small tweaks while other classes need lots and lots of help. The build most are using in wvw is hammer/longbow. With cleansing ire you remove conditions almost constantly by using your f1 abilities which as a longbow u can just shoot the ground at your feet and hammer f1 is near impossible to miss. Most of these peeps all use zerker builds which still gives u more hp than most the other classes and 2-5k hits with your hammer. Most classes cant survive many 2-5k hits. Along with the zerker stance and stability it lets the warrior go balls to the wall for 10-15 seconds putting out lots of dmg while stunning or knocking down the enemy most of that time. Removing conditions and healing for 400 per sec and whatever they get from adrenal heal.
I think a few tweaks to help the situation would be something like making cleansing ire a 30 point trait of a different trait line. To me it feels stronger than several of the warrior 30 point traits. Unsuspecting foe could probably be moved up to a 20 pointer as well. Possibly move adrenal heal up to the 25 point trait. Basically right now taking 20 points in defense gives u almost all the goodies from the warrior traits with several of the 10 point throw away traits being really amazing. I almost refuse to use any build without 10 throw away points into leg specialist.
I like the war shield skills. It has saved my butt many a times running into that tower past the zerg. Or running through the enemy zerg with zerker stance and stability to the back lines to kill glass cannons or arrow carts. However lately I keep flipping back and forth between my shield and warhorn. That convert conditions to boons is amazing.
Warrior really is hands down better. I think warriors aren’t op there just done right. They need very lil nerfs/buffs/love. Rangers on the other hand need a ton of work. There traits are a mess and a lot of them are useless cus they all help your terrible ai pet instead of you. Some wep sets need some real reworks. A lot of the utilites are very meh.
Probably close to what im running. Im doing apoc gear 30 wilderness survival 30 natures magic 10 beastmastery. Troll unget is roughly 1k heal per sec 10 secs 25 sec cooldown so I have 15 secs that its not up. With shouts cause regen and shout mastery and 33% longer regen traits I can use guard every 12 secs to stack perma regen. He had the singet of the wild which is another 150ish heal per sec. 30 points into wilderness survival transfers 3 conditions to my pet every 10 secs.
I can pretty much out regen just about anybody 1v1 and depend on conditions to do most of my damage which ends up in me winning most 1v1’s but sometimes coming up against somebody with good condi removal and it ends up a draw. And as usual the longbow/hammer super op warrior build beats me and just about everything.
Antitoxin is very meh. Its like a 4k heal and condi removal. It won’t replace most classes heal. However I could see it maybe being a lil op if the warrior/guardian hammer train all smashed into an enemy force and used it at the same time to heal the whole force and remove conditions.
So like those vlk guys are scrubs. They run around in a big blob of op warrior and guardians. They all run zerker mobility builds and prey they can chain cc kill noobs. They die a lot but there blob of warriors just banners them and they run away if its gonna be an even fight. Did I do it right?
Pretty sure its a bug with whoever is the green teams boarderland. Think its been mentioned several times. It only lets like 40-50 people in before the queue hits Are you guys both green?
I think one thing that is easy and would help without much on your end would just be to revist transfer costs. As several have stated make it something like free to transfer to tier 8 200 gems to tier 7 etc… rank servers. Then people upset with queues on stacked servers would transfer. I know from experience this works. Our guild left blackgate cus we could never get our entire guild on at the same time. This was back when server transfers were free. We just picked a low tier server and went with it. Right now its 800 gems to transfer to our tier 8 server and nobody is transferring.
They seem fine. Atleast there not like there pve feats of get 10000 pieces of candy corn. Or hop through some kittened jumping puzzle for hours and hours.
Im using a shout build and I find it nice. Guard is nice cus every 12 seconds I get swiftness and regen with boon increase and regen 33% longer trait I can stack regen permanently. Protect me yet some more regen and a way to survive a stunlock burst. Siic em though I would like to see be a 2000 range reveal anybody revealed gets the revealed condition for 4 secs. So you could reveal the thief that shadow refuged. Right now its to gimmick have to get it absolutely perfect right before he shadow refuges. Search and rescue might as well be scraped and made to something useful.
That doesn’t help out shouts in anyway… shouts are bad. (No offense) your build is bad at 1 v 1 and offers no group support besides regen and swiftness rendering it sub-par because shouts aren’t good. As it stands, “Sic’ Em” is the only skill that brings something to a group fight without traits, yes it requires skill to use but revealed is a VERY powerful tool if used effectively and that kind of power should never be given as an AoE (though worthy of the OP Dream slot).
That’s funny cus I been dueling at the windmill in the boarderlands and havn’t lost a fight yet. I can pretty much out regen anybody in a 1v1. I am relying on condi dmg to kill my enemies though so I either win or some times it ends up being a draw. Also giving the allies around me perma regen is very useful.
As for sic em yes probably a dream for it to be aoe. As it is now though I don’t think its usefull enough a gimmick to deserve a utility slot. Fun in spvp that doesn’t matter maybe to troll some thiefs but not in my wvw build.
Im using a shout build and I find it nice. Guard is nice cus every 12 seconds I get swiftness and regen with boon increase and regen 33% longer trait I can stack regen permanently. Protect me yet some more regen and a way to survive a stunlock burst. Siic em though I would like to see be a 2000 range aoe reveal anybody revealed gets the revealed condition for 4 secs. So you could reveal the thief that shadow refuged. Right now its to gimmick have to get it absolutely perfect right before he shadow refuges. Search and rescue might as well be scraped and made to something useful.
As somebody who mained a war and now leveled up my ranger here is my opinion. Warriors are great cus pretty much all wep combos work for particular builds. Most all the utilites are very useful. There are some extremely useful traits that are only the 10-20 point traits.
My ranger on the other hand has no useful mainhand condition wep sword and axe are a joke. Most of the utilites are are garbage. Most all the 10-20 point traits are meh. However Im running a condi/regen shout ranger and I can out tank my warrior all day. I been running around trolling tanking 2-3 players for long periods of time or forcing them to the water where I wreck shop.
As far as builds people actually use.
1-GS/Sword warriors
2-Dagger Ele
3-Thief cus most don’t use shortbow.
4-Ranger GS/anything else
5-Guardian a few leaps/teleports and walls etc to slow enemies down
6-Mesmer blink and focus for swiftness and some stealth to help get away
7-Engi don’t really play one but Ive never been chased down by one+ some form of stealth
8-Necros pretty much have to stay and fight. By far the easiest for me to chase down
I think ranger needs a viable mainhand condition wep. Would like to see the sword auto attack get changed. Get rid of the removes bleeding and might and replace with say torment on the second or third auto attack hit.
Auto attack needs a condition not the silly remove bleeding nonsense or give might. I personally think sword 2 should be reversed. You leap to the target then if you choose to you can evade back. Sword 3 just needs to actually land when its supposed to land. Not to sure about poison either its kinda underwhelming to me. Poison can’t stack is always a low duration and has a low dmg tick. It’s usually worn off before anybody heals anyways and doesn’t reduce healing enough.
Pretty sure that’s why they made wvw 3 different servers. Although pretty much every matchup were going to have this league there will be one server that can easily beat the other two combined.
I keep saying it and anet keeps ignoring it. Your servers population needs to be based on your world vs world population/coverage period. Then a server likes ours devona’s rest would be labeled a low population server and have free transfers to it. Right now all servers for na are considered high or very high population. So its expensive to transfer to any server. Nobody is gonna pay 800 gems to transfer to our server. Infact the opposite is gonna happen even more people are gonna transfer to the stacked servers cus they get special prizes when they win. At this point if they refuse to do as I said they might as well just start merging low wvw pop servers together.
Well as a member of the server playing against hod this week this isn’t a surprise to me. Hod greatly greatly outnumbers us yet last night were in a stalemate with us at sm. Sm was fully upgraded and basically been held since reset due to hods large numbers and are lack thereof. So I bet it was a pride thing that they had to hold it. We normally don’t even bother with sm cus we know we can’t hold it for that long against pretty much any server cus our numbers blow. But we were getting tired cus seriously all hod has done this matchup is sit in sm with tons and tons of siege cannons mortars and treb the heck out of everything with trebs in spots we basically can’t get to. Then eventually they come out with a 100 man zerg and take a camp or two and get pushed back to sm.
If it makes you feel better I was getting a lil frustrated our commanders just kept sitting around at wildcreek and klovan and basically refused to go take your camps to shut off sm’s supply and got told to do it myself by commanders .So I and like 2-3 brave lads kept doing it.
Yup server population matters absolutely 0 to the pvers. Pve is exactly the same on every server. Plus you can guest to any server to pve. If our server pop was based on our wvw pop/coverage we would be a low population server and it would be free to transfer here. Maybe then some of the people on the stacked servers complaining about queue would transfer.
Please anet make the server populations based on our wvw population/coverage. Our server Devona’s Rest has the second lowest wvw population/coverage on na. Are pve crowd is also severly lacking compared to other servers I guested to. Yet somehow we are considered a high population server and its 800 gems to transfer here. Nobody in there right mind is gonna pay 800 gems to transfer to our server. It makes for really boring leagues when we get blown out every week by much higher population/coverage servers.
Pretty much gonna be a blowout for us (DR) every week as there is always one server ranked way higher than us. Atleast before the league we only faced servers close to our ranking and had good match ups.
Matchups should be like 3 days. I knew hod was going to win before the match started. There was like no point in even having this matchup. Now we have to wait 6 more days to get another matchup of which I already know who is gonna win.
I would like to see Healing Power bonus moved to natures magic and vitality moved to beastmastery as most of the traits in natures magic have to do with healing and regen. Strength of Spirit trait would need to be moved as well since its more power based on vitality. A perfect fit would be to swap it for shout mastery.
I have always hated pets in pvp games. The AI is always terrible and there is always to many. I joined a spvp tourney yesterday. The enemy team was 5 necro pet builds. So they had 20+ pets following them around attacking it was just stupid.
Anyways I picked FCBL because [Yarr] is the only guild that ever shows up. If I choose DR that’s like saying kitten you to all their roamers who ACTUALLY DO show up to these. I didn’t pick SF because I think that their forum warriors should join the fun and walking too far is no fun.
