you do realize it would generate even more drama, no ?
“our skill has been fixed by nerfing it !”
there are other ways to see that X player sucks…. really. you must decide by it’s actions, not by its dps
ex: player X still dps the boss while the rest of the party is downed or dead.
Question for arena net:
WHY thief is not good for dungeons ?
i always heard that the best party is 5 guardians (you can literately go afk on bosses) , OR 2 necro, 2 guardian and 1 mesmer
guys, wtf ???
if the boss just spits toward us, we die…
go complain to A-nerf team for keeping damage of P/P low
tell me about single target damage using ranged weapons for thief…
ah yes, the unicorn build, the only build that has not been nerfed yet…
FU all for beeing unable to play your classes properly ….
why should i share my build ? so it can be NErfeD ? no 10×...
-a popular powerfull build will be nerfed so it can become un-popular again (see past examples)
-imba omg builds you keep for yourself and hope a-ned lol team don’t realise this…
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you has no break stuns ? too bad ….
No more FotM until the problem is solved.
same, lost 5++ parties so far, lots of QQ and drama. NO THANKS
still lvl 1, YES…
later edit: you should fire your testers…. just my 2 cents.
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fractal are too kitten to do, i get d/c because of bad internet at the boss, i lost the party , THANK YOU !!! (this is the 5 th++ time i lose party because i deconnect…)
…the party is angry at me, i am also on a-net for not fixing this…
there are 3 levels before you can complete 1 fractal lvl from what i know, and after 5++ parties (always someone d/c-ed), i am still lvl 1 !!! i am getting sick of this….
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lfg lvl 1 fractal !! why it is so hard to get a decent party in a timely fashion for lvl 1???
Now, this has no indication of difficulty, but both swamp and aquatic are easy as heck, and the fastest fractals. Whenever I see them Im more than happy.
Eesh, I built both of those… guess I need to toughen them up a bit…
you can tell that to the random partys ! you will be cursed for days
please make sticky.
to the post below: omg omg 15 k dmg…nerf BS …oh wait, it is a warrior at 1200+ range..nevermind…
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+1 to the op that opened the thread, finally someone who cares !
1. flanking strike – lol vs a moving target … i need not to say more
2. traps are lol – just not enough reason to use them (most), they should persist for a few seconds (1-2) on the ground, affecting more than 1 enemy (2-3), note that the effects can’t be triggered at your own will as other skills….
3. same with vennoms without the sharing aura: imo kill the aura, lower recherge of vennoms
4. dancing dagger is not really balanced, too much init cost (lower targets from 4 to 3 if needed)
5.+1 second to stealth from trait still not affects the shadow trap
6. you have 1 target and you need to use bow via autoattack … it sux
i would gladly accept 2.5x damage at 1200 range, than the current setup
or make it that if the arrow doesn’t bounce, to hit the same target… same to dancing daggers, and you can keep your 50% nerf.
7. roll for initiative for 60 sec recharge is too much, reduce to 30 sec and put 3 ini instead of 6 (60 sec for a break stun?, no 10×...)
8. and then you can nerf backstab builds if you so wish….
the thing that needs to be for a player (utility skills): i want this skill, and this, and this,and this, but that one is also so good, i can’t choose !
current situation:this one sux, the other sux even harder, this is not related to my build, this is also not related etc.
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Anet is trolling the players with the fractal dungeon, ahahaha
Hi there,
Aside the fact that some maps have bugs, like the coruption hammer thing, where on the side the wind blows you away, and “sometimes” you get on the bottom of the map (hey guys, can i get a res?), i get a d/c because of bad internet, and party kicks me because i cant get back in, and ALSO i wait 12356 hours to get a party according to my lvl 1.(not to mention we need to get the whole party killed, BECAUSE i died in a place where ppl can’t come and i have the hammer)
Yes, i never made it past lvl 1, because of bad partys/deconnects/ppl leaving because it takes too much time etc.
Anyone is frustrated as me because of bad design?
The damage of that skill passed from 5k to 2k around…
I wonder, since when the 33% nerf counts as lowering the dmg of an ability from 5k dmg to 2k dmg?
it was a misstype, damage REDUCED TO 33%
)))))
Your perception, in my opinion, is biased. The nerf were fair, you also obtained buffs to strategic skills like smoke bomb, scoprion wire or smoke screen, so it is quite clear that ANet has no hate against your profession.
sorry, the wire that 90% of the time misses ? can you explain the buffs on the other 2 skills please ???
fix that it follows moving targets (or at least moving towards the target direction), kitten useless pvp skill ….
i doubt anyone cares much about fixing it….
go back to play guardian/warrior
just my 2 cents.
and what do you want exactly ? nerf my build too ?? how about go cry somewhere else???
bump because i also do not like the changes, (aka weekly nerfs). WHEN IT WILL STOP ????
BS builds were barely touched and condition builds were not touched at all.
just touch the condition build(s) and i will burn the internet !
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i also agree that it costs too much initiative to be useful now ….
So we can insert our nerf bat in your rear much easier.
very good remark kind sir, but i am afraid this won’t end here (with this patch)…
go for bunker build with cond damage (bleed), at the moment this is not nerfed
either p/d or d/d
say THANK you to the a-net dream team, for making grand master minor traits USELESS for a cond build thief.
you guys just make me sick, even the “thieves guild” skill has received nerf, WTF …
“i never die while stealth is active”
well, it is the incoming nerfs (again), rather than boosts imo
i am actually surprised that someone are actually using those useless builds (p/p)
so another thief nerf incoming, brace yourselves !
the ONLY nerf that i can accept is a 3 sec revealed debuff, AFTER stealth ends. PERIOD.
also with the stealth fix, it should be the best thing(then maybe reduce it to 2 sec?)
:for devs to consider.
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gz to the one that played necro. instead of complaining (like most of the r kitten who can’t play their class properly), they learnt how a thief can be countered. i really liked the video. thank you OP
i am so sick because of so many complaints about the thief class, that i dont play too much, but i do troll the forums instead
it seems to me that EVERY patch is a ninja patch for a thief to nerf something.
for a-net: when this nerf spin from class to class will ever stop ???
to the OP: you can always blame a-net for nerfing your class to the ground
if stealth stomp is a problem, try the warrior one: you get 15 sec to stomp somebody and you are revived, imagine that ! OP ? i think so, yes.
I’d love to be proved wrong but I suspect if the nerfs keep coming you can look for server merges in the next 3 months and expect population levels to be dismal by February/March 2013.
i look forward to this, they deserve such a tragic end imo.
it doesn’t matter. as long as there are QQ threads, the thief will be nerfed. simple.
i also think the initiative regen should be around at 2.5 sec ~!
They be doing some ninja nerf again. this aint new anymore.
true, i noticed it also about the ninja nerfs. (or they gave up to publish the changes due to a very complicated process)
as you saw the spikes have decreased, can we close the thread now, or the QQ still continues even after the nerf ?
“i can solo a bunker guardian”
hey, drop me an invite, maybe i will join
80 full exotic cond thief, i never cared for direct dmg builds.
“A-net admits that thieves are underpowered (UP) on some builds”
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how about we remove stealth completely from the game? it will make all 7 other classes happy.
the +50% bonus from crit dmg was removed. spikes decreased among all classes. say hello to the ninja dude.
so from the bs nerf QQ, we reached HS (again), good job ! keep up the good work (the qq ofc)
did we learnt something till now ? no.
Protection, Aegis, Invulnerability abilities, CCs, Evasion.
Ironically, the class with the most limited access to these is the thief himself, so going thief to counter backstab thieves is just about the worst decision you can make.
i am sorry to say, but a condition thief as myself 3.2-3.3k armor and 16k hp eats bs thieves easy. (unless you are not an idiot ofc)
at the worst outcome is that he stealths in low hp and he escapes….
also the forge (and to a lesser extent earth) set is REALLY nice against a surprise even if you are daydreaming.
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“we have so many builds and weapons to choose from (for pvp)”
here is mine:
http://s14.postimage.org/ind0ygdtt/gw024.jpg
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