Guild Wars 2

the new system is not small guild friendly. i highly doubt anyone even considered it…

Hi. Would be a good ideea so the aoe spammers, spam aoe’s with more responsibility?
Friendly fire introduced in wvw ! just pop aoe under your zerglings and watch them melt.

zerg problem solved.

res rushing in pvp must be stopped !!!

my advice: for PvE roll a warrior/mesmer/guardian and you’re golden
i don’t know for wvw/pvp/spvp etc.

cond removal=~0
vennom share radius is a bit on the LOL side
NO utility (like smoke screen)
the lava boss shaman would like to laugh in your face…

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Food
Bowl of Orrian Truffle and Meat Stew 100% Chance to gain might on dodge
+40% Endurance regeneration

can we has more nerfs plz ? people is still not happy

so, the d/d fans complain that a counter build in d/p is their demise ?

playing d/p until the nerf bat comes (again)…

Columba.9730:

thieves are fine in pve. see them doing well all the time.

waiting for the next row of nerfs in the next patch, can’t wait

but but but …. we save so many semi-useless skills to use !
a warrior was bragging he does 18-24k dmg to a boss, while i was doing 3k with a HS on a <25% (i have 61 crit dmg on my thief…) still from 3k to 24k is a LONG way….
the SR is not even close to res a dead guy in combat…
when someone tells thief has burst, i will put my used sock unwashed for 2 weeks in his mouth ! the burst for thief is a joke.
AND it does not matter vs boss fights…
what utilities we have, blinding-weakness-vulnerability ? tell that to http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unshakable

yeah, every OP class should be charged double imo

wts my gold mine for 2 lovely young ladies with the profession: personal pleasures ^^
OT: this is not a strategy game !

you can always be a bad troll, kicking players out of dungeons before chests, saying bad things to them, griefing, etc.

yes, you need to kill 100.000 mobs and 1000 vets and salvage 1000 things and use the mystic toilet 1000 times and more !!!
all for just 10 laurels, cheap, no ?

Hello. I want that all aoe skills should have maximum 5 targets and, each hit should do 40% of a normal attack !
so you would need at least 3 mobs to be reasonable to use aoe !

so far i see that AOE is OP when there are large crowds of mobs !

when you stink, then ofc the mobs and pets can follow you in stealth, doooh !

stof.9341:

DanH.5879:

1. vennom life steal – does not steal hp from the mob !
2. 4000 dps = 4000 damage every second …. get serious

your xls is wrong bad.
you need to learn the class more…

1. Yes it does. Venom Share + thief guild used to be one of the fastest way ever to kill buildings even, before them made those immune to lifesteal effects.

you hear that everyone ? is time to use the build before it gets nerfed !

1. vennom life steal – does not steal hp from the mob !
2. 4000 dps = 4000 damage every second …. get serious

your xls is wrong bad.
you need to learn the class more…

if you don’t already have a mesmer for wvw, you are doing it wrong !

every time a thief hits you, you gain 5 gems ^^

Cufflink.3985:

it makes me feel I should roll ele/ranger/mesmer/guardian to really pull my weight.

you already know the answer

you can run, but you can’t hide forever !

Killersquall.5730:

offence.4726:

It pretty much broke CnD on animals atleast in WvW thus the d/d build will suffer quite alot , not to mention the PvE dire situation. What could be the logic behind this ? None probably , stealthing should make you dissapear and lose aggro not pop out of it and mobs tag you instantly I call this major kitten. I for one will take a brake alltogether and only do the ocassional spVp wtfpwnage on my mesmer. That is all I guess the qq’ers win again.

Well, this will probably decrease the thief population in wvw.

i really really hope so ^^, all those bad thieves need to go away and “vanish”
maybe then we can get some PvE buffs

Columba.9730:

This was an exploit. Some thieves will now need to L2p

this is EPIC ! funny, how the wheel is turning
L2P issues are everywhere now !

the OP builds are gone because of 2 seconds CD on life steal food, yet, so many cry because OP’ness is gone …

Laika.8795:

killimandros.5087:

Its a shame a nerf intended for wvw hits the pve players :-/

How in the holy hell does a “nerf” that doesn’t reset aggro tables on mobs when you stealth translate, in your mind, to something aimed at WvW?

I don’t mean to be rude, but this does not compute…

my brain got a BOB (blue screen of death) ^^
remove critters (or make them not grant stealth when C&D) and i will be even more happy

i want an explanation: why i have to grind fractal items (necklace/earrings), by NOT doing fractals ???

Runcore.5107:

Bad idea. No need to say more.

the only downside is that some bad/poor performance thieves will roll a guardian/warrior/mesmer etc.
you mean a GC spawning BS to the boss every 4-5 sec, constantly getting out of agro list, is ok ?

basically you have those 3-4 sec of stealth to:
1. wait for the heal to be available, and other skills
2. gtfo and come back later
3. pop caltrops/poison&weakness field since they don’t break stealth

for all: tanking the boss and popping your HiS heal, caused it to reset in under 1 second. (the others in party are ressing/downed/dead etc.), in my opinion it was very bad

the old thief was too much reliant on stealth rather than on it’s agility.
use withdraw ppl! it got buffed, and heals 2/3 to 3/4 of a HiS in a 1/2 CD+ 1 long dodge

20 shadowarts, 20 acrobatics, 30 trickery
get vigor on healing, and vigor on stealing, have fun dodging 999 times

more explanations: 2 were using spy kits (so not on aggro table) and 2 are dead, i kite boss, i need to heal with HiS, boss instant resets because all are in stealth. bad.

you now can be able to do HiS(heal) and not reset the skill challenges. what more you want?

actually, maybe thieves will be needed more in PVE (dungeons/fotm) parties ! (rather than being kicked)
you were cheating by using them (the spy kits), i do not think it was intended for just standing there spamming the kits and opening the back door

i have so many pristine relics and fractal parts that i think they are just taking up space.
say hello to 1 month grind for 1 earring by NOT doing fractals….

this means if i do HiS and boss is only on me, he won’t reset ?
best patch we ever had, and withdraw is even more useful than HiS, or at least on par
too bad most shadow arts skills are “on stealth”

i quited again the vennom build since 300 range is crap…

Hi there, what would you do after the thief class (not necessarily the same thief)
kill you in wvw again and again and again?

imo bad players deserve to be kicked
we want to hear the other side of the story !

yes , you did did a mistake creating a thief. just roll a guardian to faceroll any dungeon and fotm. thief fights best when downed ^^

i want you pro nerf guys explain to me, why in higher spvp (paids), thieves are almost non-existant, are they so OP that ppl use weaker classes to play there ?

bring 2 guards and you can literary faceroll any fotm boss…

sarcastic comment: still, the thieves are so OP, they must be nerfed more.

so, in conclusion:
caltrops is op, backstab is still op,C&D is op, our agility is op, stealth is op, even our healing is op
what are you guys smoking ??? because i want some too ^^

Laika.8795:

I want to be able to create a thieves guild thief pet every time I dodge, and cleanse a condition every time I fart.

this !

the funny thing i died& got teleported without even falling or loosing my hp
i was bounced on the platform behind me … stupid mechanic…

my exotics + traits > your lol lvl 35 in greens at best… even assuming you have lvl 35 gear on you…

it is not his fault for emo quitting either

the ONLY thing i see in all the videos you post, is culling abuse. period.
for wvw the “reveled” debuff should last ~10 seconds, and all will be happy….or not ?

pr0 tip for the programers: make the thieves in w3 to be retained in the cache of the clients; what players see: the model&skins of them. (not the coordinates)
when stealth ends, the client will render the thief again from it’s cache with the new coordinates from server with the info stealth ended. simple as pie. the end of culling.
clear the cache of the clients when the thief X is no longer on screen and not used stealth for more than…2-3-4 minutes.
FIFO list (first in (thief stealths), first in list (out))- the first enemy thief to use stealth skill is last in cache, the 2nd thief that use stealth at time t+1 (thief 1 remaining in stealth) is moved last, and thief 1 moves to 1st position in cache.
and because friendly thieves are not subject to our problem, they may be ignored by this list.

server send message thief ID 23459 is out of stealth, and the clients should render it from their cache (if not present already in the cache, load from server) using the coordinates x/y/z (then put on clients cache updated skins/models if something changed)
i am very sure the clients can search for a specific char ID in the cache list relatively fast (1-30 objects),
assuming we don’t have we don’t have 100 thieves vs 100 thieves, but even here, the method is still good.
you are welcome.

DanH.5879:

i just want to tell you guys something.
i don’t care about your w3 or pvp, and that the thief is OP there etc.
however, when i get kicked from dungeon/fractal parties because of my class (too gimped/UP etc.), then it IS my problem
i have invested a lot of time, gold and ~8k+ gems to easly give up on my beloved thiefling

in PVE thief is not OP. and that’s a fact. (i have died a lot of times in stealth because my team mates (pugs) are noobs and attack boss while downed and break stealth…hello double kill)
and yeah, it seems that if i am the only one attacking the boss, and do a hide in shadows(3-4 sec stealth, healing skill), the boss instantly resets. so where is the OPness here….. uh ??

DanH.5879:

you pr0 w3 and pvp players, should suck a candy, and leave the thief PVE community alone.
we are already sub par to classes like guardians/warriors/mesmers and even eles.

in case someone didn’t read

i swear, you guys are like the chick who recorded a video about an encounter with a thief
this conversation is with a fellow party friend:
“you saw that? he teleported ! he must be cheating! now, we have enough proof”

you pr0 w3 and pvp players, should suck a candy, and leave the thief PVE community alone.
we are already sub par to classes like guardians/warriors/mesmers and even eles.

the dredge would like to laugh in your face ^^

i just want to tell you guys something.
i don’t care about your w3 or pvp, and that the thief is OP there etc.
however, when i get kicked from dungeon/fractal parties because of my class (too gimped/UP etc.), then it IS my problem
i have invested a lot of time, gold and ~8k+ gems to easly give up on my beloved thiefling

in PVE thief is not OP. and that’s a fact. (i have died a lot of times in stealth because my team mates (pugs) are noobs and attack boss while downed and break stealth…hello double kill)
and yeah, it seems that if i am the only one attacking the boss, and do a hide in shadows(3-4 sec stealth, healing skill), the boss instantly resets. so where is the OPness here….. uh ??

i concur that at fractal lvl 48, is just boring to plow trough all those 1000+ adds.
yes we can pull boss in the far corner and kill him, but pugs always seem to get more aggro than is needed….
still, a loooong and frustrating fractal, where the fun factor is 0.

i got abyss&celestial and other good stuff from them