Guild Wars 2

i think the damage in the pictures are not according to stats posted
imo*
+you don’t know if the other player is glass with +150% crit dmg/50%crit chance or not

i think that most players think that if a thief stealths, he becomes invincible

so much for having a high IQ population…
sad we must carry the nerf burden each patch :/

i MUG ppl ^^ ahahahaha

much better that 1200 range of cluster bomb that travels the 1200 distance in ~ 5 seconds…

all i saw is a bunch of cowards fleeing a server while it was sinking, lol

guys doing 17k+ damage on a low lvl player with 2000 armor
(yes, on my guardian at lvl 30 with lvl 30 greens i have SO much armor)
it’s more than obvious than he will receive 15k++ damage from a glass cannon

comparing a low level with an 80 full exotics is like comparing small apples with coconuts

please nerf the thief in wvw/spvp as much as you wish,
but please balance the pve one, right now, we are not equals (other classes are prefered more in dungeons than others)
eg. warrior was op already in pve, now with the banner buff, it’s almost a must, as guardians :/
balance us in pve and i will be happy

Gamblit.5041:

P/P needs 1200 Range for dungeons/world bosses. Doing Jormag as P/P is difficult.

Tempest Darqmane.4862:

So, I see the devs themselves aren’t fans of Sword/Dagger.

What’s wrong with s/d?

yeah, 900 range si crap at jormag…
you can always use shortbow and mash the no. 1 button for ~1050 range…

captaincrash.6528:

In the tooltip on the Gem Store it says ‘Available for a limited time only.’

does it mean i will loose it after the time expires ???

well, it’s ok to turn back to the game if they actually balance the classes in PvE
i am so sick of guardian/warrior/mesmer combo for everything in pve

for wvw/spvp i think there are other happy persons

i proved my point:
necros get double the loot bags in wvw vs zergs at 1200 range

than me dagger storming trough the entire enemy zerg !
then i spam cluster bomb, i still can’t keep up !

12 seconds reuse ? a utility skill ? go for 24+ traited, and 30+ untraited, and it’s ok
the epidemic spam must stop !

p.s. your mobs in PVE do not clear conditions fyi

anyone saw that the dungeon boss does 4-6 attacks at the same time, just to nerf the aegis ?
well….it also procs the confusion damage 4-6 times in 1 visual attack of the boss, lol

flow.6043:

DanH.5879:

it is funny how you try to defend your skill that literally melts a whole zerg
that’s how i get 5-10++ conditions at 1 time ! some random necro spamming epidemic

step.1. get 2 mesmers ,1 ele, and 2 necros
step.2 spam condtions on 1 guy (lots of confusions,chill/bleed etc.)
step.3 necros assist puting epidemic on that one guy
step.4 all zerg is full of conditions, all zerg having 6+ confusion stacks, bleeds, burns etc. etc.)
step.5 collect lootbags from all

funny, funny

lol do you even play a necromancer?
Havn’t we all heard the story of the 2 necros who “literally melted a whole zerg” …with a 5-target aoe limit xD

Here’s how your scenario would really play out:
step.1. get 2 mesmers ,1 ele, and 2 necros
step.2 spam condtions on 1 guy (lots of confusions,chill/bleed etc.)
step.3 30-man zerg rolls over your little group
step.4 shameful respawn

i never said it was 5 vs 30, just a party of 5 :P

combine all those 6+++ confusion stacks with epidemic !

epic meltdown

it is funny how you try to defend your skill that literally melts a whole zerg
that’s how i get 5-10++ conditions at 1 time ! some random necro spamming epidemic

step.1. get 2 mesmers ,1 ele, and 2 necros
step.2 spam condtions on 1 guy (lots of confusions,chill/bleed etc.)
step.3 necros assist puting epidemic on that one guy
step.4 all zerg is full of conditions, all zerg having 6+ confusion stacks, bleeds, burns etc. etc.)
step.5 collect lootbags from all

funny, funny

Jinks.2057:

Confusion needs to be neutered.

Sorry but it needs to happen for the health of this game.

You still got a lot of other builds so it’ll be fine

a fellow thief agrees with the nerf for mesmers !

Jinks.2057:

Confusion needs to be neutered.

Sorry but it needs to happen for the health of this game.

You still got a lot of other builds so it’ll be fine

a fellow thief agrees with the nerf for mesmers !

question: why should it be unblockable?
OP skill, imo
does respect the 5 targets max rule ???
not to mentioned that 15 sec CD is an awful LOW cooldown for such a powerful skill (almost spamable), none of my thief utilities have lower than 30 seconds !

AND if traited epidemic goes down to 12 seconds … ahaha… OP is OP and you can’t deny it

one of the reasons a necro collects 2 times more lootbags than me daggerstorming the middle of the enemy zerg ! :P

actually even if i dagger storm in the middle of the enemy zerg, there seems that other classes like necro/ele etc. receive even more bags !

stupid 999 aoes and epidemic makes me cry

only +1 to the team, dps, and spam clusterbomb left and right

thief class seems the most hated in wvw, and because of this there were HOW MANY nerfs so far ???

why should we help you ???

just my advice: if you find a good build please keep it for yourself and don’t share with anyone unless you want it to be nerfed

A: delete your thief; then roll a mesmer or ele

a nice video, thanks
however the user skill was average and not a pro :P

magom.3275:

Also, Basilisk Venom is the worst elite in PvE if you don´t aspect for it (and even so). So, why Anet dont make BV instant cast whit 2 seg. of duration in PvE?

see PvP/wvw QQ sections for the answer

Humorless.1573:

And the first part of your post makes no sense whatsoever.

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Faeyd.5094:

I once ran 100 attempts of using it and can’t be bothered to dig up the post of the stats but it was something like a 28% success rate of using it.

i would be glad if they make such change
1. perma stealth near dungeon boss does NO damage to the boss
2. NPC do not get frustrated when they are killed by 6k backstab
3. a LOT of traits in SA depend on “on stealth”, nerfing if, all of them gets nerfed.
4. we have ONLY 2 aoe: cluster bomb and daggerstorm, just 1 stability skill

nerfing the thief in pve just so wvw can be happy is just wrong
as an example: dagger storm in a bunch of mobs doing 2-3k+ damage on each is ok
since a LOT of other classes can do so much better

in wvw it is considered OP, lol

just for the fun of of it, both aoe skills are 1/2 direct damage and 1/2 condition damage… never sinergizing with CG/dps build nor condition builds for max damage

it is so unreliable (targeting the lower torso/feet), and you get ~1/3 chance to pull him

other outcomes: target is knocked down for 0.1 sec (lol buggy skill)
miss/block/out of range etc.
no synergy with any trait
i wouldn’t take this skill even it had 15 sec cool down

1vs1 tournaments ? that would be something or 5 vs 5
much more drama that 1 class will be more op than others

JonathanSharp.7094:

Mif.3471:

JonathanSharp.7094:

A couple things:

• For PvE/PvP/WvW, we know that those are 3 different playstyles, we don’t just lump PvE and WvW together.

Considering WvW and PVE use the same skill values, yes you do.

We’re starting to split PvE/WvW in the upcoming patch.

But we want them to be things that keep consistency across the game types as much as possible.

the best decision you could make, i am happy
i do not understand why it took so long… but better late than never

all the heavy nerfs thief received in pve received just because of wvw/pvp
…just no comment

i smell bribe or personal favors for doing that
just my 2 cents.

raise repair bills, raise teleporting costs, raise trading post taxes
→ deflation

however some may be so poor that the repair bills can be too much… :P

randomfightfan.4091:

Am a thief, if you care to watch it here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eTMPvF_uAI&feature=youtu.be

Path 2. Was really easy but only because CoE is designed for thieves. Almost feels like cheating :P

actually you are, but you don’t know it

1.buy yellow items (rares) with 30 tokens / item
2.salvage them for ectos then sell
3.become a billionare !

you owe me a beer

Imbaloni.1849:

So, ANET is still ignoring us?

A: yes

i also agree that every thief that enters wvw should be banned for 1h or be restricted from entering wvw in the first place
+1

those Americans are just farmers, i do not expect much from them…
take actions then see the results ^^, lol

please move the thread into the wvw section and ban the OP,
thank you in advance.

skill 1: banana slap/ 2nd slap/ insert banana into eyes (blind)
skill 2: banana throw
skill 3: banana whirl (b/b)
skill 4: banana split (ground becomes slippery)
skill 5: banana eat (gain health)

you will be forced to go for 3rd place from 1st, no worry
let the flame war begin !

REAL.7483:

omphin.1752:

Its becoming pretty clear that it would probably be better for some SFR guilds to transfer to Desolation if they want to beat the Vizunah beast. We dont have your crazy queue times and are a stable T1 server and dislike Vizunah for the same reasons you do. just throwing it out there.

What?!
We did beat Vizunah Square like what, 5 times now?
Reason why we will lose some guilds is because we have proven ourselves we could win without much effort, and guilds were starting to aim more for the fun than for the points. But guess what, you CAN’T enjoy the game against 70+ blobs and 10 skill delay so many started to have “vacations” on lower tiers and others thought about leaving aswell.

Your server is as stable as IRON is atm.

Not directly to your comment now:
About alliances between VS and Desolation, hell no you sure don´t have one, but putting IRON on SFR Border instead of any other sure has a HUGE impact on our ppts, because not only those Hills are well safe but they also pressure our stuff all the fkin time. Don´t know if you realized but before IRON come to our Borderland we used to have full T3 maps to defend, after that all i see is a crappy SFR Borderland with IRON blob always there…

If we happen to lose our supremacy and VS start focusing you, let’s see how strong you are, they are going to eat you, om nom nom!

i smell frustration in the air from SFR
seems we are doing our job quite well ^^

So we tried half baked frog …. why it is so hard to kill him ?
even we strip the boons (might and stability), the blow(s) are reapplying them and can’t push him out of the circle

also the randoms like to grief by attacking that guy

boon removal skills like flanking strike does not work, steal and NO mug yes
shame

for zerg in wvw, try pvt gear, vennom share and 30/0/30/10/0

1dagger storm,
2.vennom share, then spam poison field+signet of malice & auto attack
3.collect loot bags

easy as pie

Ok so other classes can spam: (note auto attack 1 skill doesn’t count !)
ele/engineer: 4×4 skills=16 skills f1,f2,f3,f4 each with 4 skills
rest: 2×4=8 skills
thieves: spam x2 black poweders= 12 ini (all your ini actually unless trait)
OR 4 HS, (3ini each)
OR 2C&D

warrior has highest dps / toughness and vitality ! & awsome flags with imba boons
thief: medium armor/some dps/ lowest vitality , almost non-existant boon support
but we have stealth ! …. but it is bad vs pve mobs now…
agility !….no…unless you spend 15 points trait
burst !….not very good in pve…
downed skill 3 = useless in pve

so?

imo it’s not best to make thief and stick with it, since it is ALWAYS on the nerf train
ppl will never be happy, really.

a-net should put their foot in the ground at some point:
enough ! this class remains as it is ! no matter what.

if you are not dumb, you can see he retreats and pick another victim, when he can see he can’t kill his targets
as a note, most of his kills are under-leveled ppl or bads, which, both of these categories deserve to be killed

dude, you do not understand, let me write again:
i do not want any more nerfs to the pve thief

if you want wvw, please go to the wvw section, thank you.
tell a-net to forbid thieves from entering wvw, and all will be happy

lets see:
HiS 30 sec CoolDown
Blinding Powder 32-40 sec
SR 48/60
traited steal 30-45 sec
smoke wall has 24/30 cd (used with clusterbomb/hs)

c&d OR Black Powder+hs = 4-6 second CD ?!? (traited ofc ini regen/ +2ini on stealth etc)
just tell me where stealth is broken

actually, in wvw i have 2k armor on my guardian with gear at my level 30 (all greens)
yes, i have 25k hp, but almost NO armor, so that’s why you guys get 15-20k+ backstabs !

i want to see a warrior/guardian soloing it too

yeah, but the thing IS that dungeon bosses do not give a kitten about how much you stay in stealth ! or that you can burst 20k in less 2 seconds

this is where wvw nerfs come to pve