Guild Wars 2

i would propose to replace LS with something useless, like add 1 second of poison

it’s much much better to take a noob warrior or a noob guardian, than a noob thief
now you tell me if this is balanced

actually it should be nice like this:
CD 40 or 45 sec:
1.shadowstep breaks stun and cleanse 1 condition
2.shadowreturn breaks stun and cleanse 1 condition (12 sec duration)

at least it keeps the spammers out

Mif.3471:

Angry complainers mean the game is healthy. It shows people care about the game.

When they stop complaining, that’s when a game is in trouble, because it means they’ve stopped caring.

for Josh Foreman & Chris Whiteside & rest
+1 for the posts, i am happy now that you guys actually read/discuss what the community has to say (ex. the condition problem and other stuff)
it was a nice way to put the fire out, at least for me
just a few post were enough to make me happy again, at least it’s not the feeling of a brick wall now

l.e. lets say 100 people are at tequatl, and 50 are condition specs
how those 50 ppl can do their damage if just 5 are enough, the rest of conditions are “lost” ? And because of player number scaling, the monster is killed 30-40% slower than with all 100 guys pure damage builds
in non-time limit cases, this is not so much of a problem
lets say that the 100 zerker guys kill tequatl in 8 minutes, from 10 the limit
so if it’s 50 zerk 50 condition, they lost the boss already
and you still didn’t fix this since beta, how should i NOT be angry in this case…

also did you account for events on low population worlds, them becoming “impossible” with low player numbers?

so, while the other classes get super bonuses, thief gets nerfed more

well… thief hate at it’s finest….

looking forward to a better collaboration
Create a thread with “thief suggestions” make it sticky
thatway he won’t need to read all the subforum

just my 2 cents

is there a TL DR version ?

[The Burning Poison]:
When you poison an enemy, you also add burning for 1 second.

crouze.3078:

The damage bonus while wielding a bundle would make a great ele/thief combo.
But yes, other then that there is no real value for this.

It is more like “oh, i have an elementalist in my group. for this dungeon i can change my +5% dagger damage into +20% damage with those elemental weapons”

and if you don’t have an ele in the party, or he doesn’t use conjured weapons ?

Acrobatics Trait: VI
Dodging removes cripple, chilled and weakness from you. (8s cooldown)

guys why are you obsessed with “while wielding a bundle”
WE DON"T HAVE THEM ! period.

1. to make it worh while, it should refresh 1 utility you equipped randomly
so if you used SR, and steal, you have 33% chance to have it refreshed.
it’s not op, but would be usefull if you don’t have a full rack of signets you don’t use

i have the feeling we will be nerfed very hard
they hate us so much……

Manuhell.2759:

*and having people with some brain on the turrets

trolls count ?

it’s frustrating and time consuming for the average player, not located in a full server nor in a huge guild

1 and 3 , both

1.well, the first step was the condition problem
2.the 2nd one is with the Venom Aura range, it’s to kitten small to be of any “real” use in dungeons
3. countless thief nerfs, ok there were “some” buffs too, but to little compensation
4. the LFG tool in game was looong overdue
5. talking to a-net is like talking to a brick wall
6. i was lied in the manifest ….. so now i believe they are a bunch of liars
(you create your own bible …. people read it, then you break the rules, do you expect me to still follow??)
7. WvW and PvE skills were not split, causing unhappiness on both sides

list can go on and on and on…

i think what the community needs are some “representatives”
and those to talk with the anet devs

maybe this will improve the communication ?

Bulletproof.6983:

What if, say, a player is skilled and knowledgable, but is a total troll/scumbag and is still ruled by ego? Would he no longer be considered a scrub?

seems like the guy i see in the mirror all day…hmm…

can you quit something you already quitted a long time ago ?

freelancecoma.8629:

Lol idk what I want, but I know my thief needs a break from fractals lol. Thanks though ill give it a crack, but im a very poor broke thief (irony is funny guys) oh and (Karma is a total puppy). I just never focus on stuff in gwars. I just play it to have fun with like minded players.

try it in mists, coz it’s free
please note i changed the sigils on the weapons

if you really really REALLY want a hybrid build, here is a hint to start:
30 critical strikes: 1 Furious Retaliation, 3 Side Strike, 11 Executioner
20 Acrobatics: 3 Vigorous Recovery, 8 Pain Response
20 Trickery: 3 Uncatchable, 7 Bountiful Theft

runes: Rune of the Thief x6
weapons: PVT / sigils Sigil of Accuracy + Sigil of Force
armor: Carrion
jewels: Zerker
utility: caltrops, signet of agility, infiltrator signet (to have 1 stun break)
healing: withdraw

elite: daggerstorm for mobs/ for boss anything else

enjoy

all playing the current OP builds, go figure… d/p and s/d
especially the LS spam for boon stealing, lol

yes, i agree we can have troll builds, but those are far from the best

since i go for 100% precision with fury ofc (i can have ~1/2 furry time), with 100+ crit damage, and power to boot, and around 14k HP,

Valkyrie is for backstab spam and good HP pool

i will go for the trolling part

here is the know how:
1. you can maximize both condition damage and crit/prec but you are sacrificing all your defense (toughness/vit), at this point you are free kill
2. prec/crit scales exponentially, condition linear
and we all know condition sucks big time at this point in time because of bleed staking limit witch hurts thief a LOT
3. death blossom d/d scales to little to power/prec/crit builds, same as sneak attack p/d
4.the rest of skills, they are not related to condition damage in ANY way, it’s useless

you want best damage ? go power/prec/crit
ANY other combination (condi/hybrid/lol control&support etc.) is a waste of damage potential at the current situation

l.e the only hybrid (1 SKILL) that an be done is shortbow via clusterbomb spam

the build sux bad…
i bet your thief hates you

dDuff.3860:

I have some information that Inf.strike will now cripple, PW will immobilize instead stun.
But i don’t know what buffs we will get for it.
Thoughts?

we should thank them for the kind nerfs this time, imo

guardian has the TANK and is THE SUPPORT for the team
warrior has the DAMAGE and can be the TANK&SUPPORT for the team (banners/aoe heals etc.)

thief ? 1 mistake or 1 moment of lag and you beg for res, sure you have 1 extra dodge on some builds… but can you use them effectively ? damage is good, rest is bottom
ShadowRefuge and stealth in general is overrated too

overall thief = 1/2 to 3/4 of any remaining class
thief is best at killing scrubs in wvw 1 vs 1, but even at that, is not so good anymore

i am glad thiefs are nerfed again !

GW2 will be a better place without thiefes

me likes the new thief video !

no worry, PW will be nerfed in the next patch from what i heard,
enjoy it while you still can

i am proud to be a “scrub”, problem ?

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Been looking around and wanting to get back into WvW using S/d. My question is, would a 10/30/0/30/0 be a decent build, with pure zerkers and Ruby orbs, or do a mix with valk or soldiers?

your build will be nerfed the next patch, no worry

p/p sucks, tried it, didn’t like nor it’s of any good
guardian pops reflection: you basically suicide

guardian → trollface

i think his S/D build is OP, and will be nerfed in the next patch
ahaha

ZennithRising.8653:

… I take into account that the game changed much (!) from back when this spec was good for me. But today I just kept dying in the dungeons, besides that I have exotic armor, and people said that I should respec/change armor spec. I would also like to mention that I like using the short bow (a lot) and maybe dd? So I would like something that can keep me up, but also do some serious damage, maybe some support for my mates?

Any information/ advice would help!…
Thanks!

Hi. 1.delete thief
2.and create a warrior/guardian

you are welcome

warrior steal nerf, here we come

Scoompoof.4657:

1. Do theives need to build vit/toughness more then other classes? I have 10k hp and die in about 2 or 3 hits in dungeons. My warrior, on the other hand, is full zerks and I rarely have to worry about surviving.

it’s only the dev team fault here !!!
we have been nerfed so hard, ANYTHING is better than thief in pve these days.

i agree with those nerfs !

Anyone knows if the d/p mania in wvw will be nerfed soon ?

please nerf thiefs more ! thanks !!

raise condition stack limit to over 9000 !

Ulari.9547:

I feel the need to share the history…

I and others have posted on the condition cap issue for more than a year (you can review my posts if you want <g>).

A-Net has acknowledged it is an issue:
John Peters in October (2012): Condition damage is an issue we are looking into.
John Peters in February (2013): Condition damage is an issue we are looking into.

Original Posts:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/No-love-for-condition-builds/page/2#
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Comfirmed-Nothing-being-done-re-conditions/page/4

It is SO frustrating that this has not been addressed.

John Peters in December (2014): Condition damage is an issue we are looking into.
trollface
just a bunch of tards and liars…all of them

well, it sucks bad as it is now

Devata.6589:

DanH.5879:

i think over 100e so far…
i liked my lol thief, then at the beginning….but now…
a-net devs and the community hated them
now i log ~1 time per week,
heavy nerfs are on their way again, yay, maybe i can happily quit this hame
since the root cause with 25 (bleed) stacks limit was not fixed since forever…
venoms are also getting the short straw…

So first you spend a lot of money on gems and so helping GW2 with there gem-store focus. Then the game changes for the worse for a big part because of that and then you leave leaving us (people who are willing to pay for an expansions but not for gems exactly for this reason) with a game that has gotten worse partly because of your input.

Thanks.

you piece of …, you think i am happy they trashed my class, but the obvious problems were not fixed ? halo ?

thiefs are OP, please nerf !
guards and warrs are fine !

i think over 100e so far…
i liked my lol thief, then at the beginning….but now…
a-net devs and the community hated them
now i log ~1 time per week,
heavy nerfs are on their way again, yay, maybe i can happily quit this hame
since the root cause with 25 (bleed) stacks limit was not fixed since forever…
venoms are also getting the short straw…

Sensotix.4106:

Hey guys I have recently uploaded this video to show why I think *S/D thief is too strong atm.
I am aware that other classes need some things changed as well but now I will start off with the thief
It would be awesome if you could tell me what you think in the comment section on youtube or here on the forum thread.

Looking forward to a nice discussion!

Link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpUk9QvJ8bE

Rules:
- Please don’t insult anybody and try to provide constructive feedback so others don’t feel offended and know what you mean.
- I don’t say they should kill the last viable build a thief has I just want to know what you guys would change (maybe you are even saying that thief is fine as it is )

they are OP, pls nerf thief moar !
reduce evades, reduce damage by 50%, increase revealed to 5 seconds
thankx

i agree. wvw must receive 4s revealed too !