Guild Wars 2

i am sorry i am logging into the game once per week

nerf nerf…nerf…..more nerf !
delete !!!

where is the ring ?

Jamais vu.5284:

Only ignoramuses ignorant to that fact say they are an OP class.

or trolls

strange, the thief is also in a BAD place all the time !
nerf trains hit like a truck, and no compensation given back

sugestion: don’t play thief, unless you want to troll ppl

thierfs are OP!
reason: they are better than us rest in pvp and wvw-ing ….pve too !

raahk.2786:

tigirius.9014:

KarlusDavius.1024:

Fade.7658:

This thread has essentially become a forum for suggestions on how to nerf thieves into the ground.

+1

+1 that’s not what’s needed I agree. Thieves are tricksters but they are nowhere near invulnerable.

+1

Too bad all the balance team cares about is buffing the warrior further, since it’s their pet class.
I’d love to have some bug fixes that have existed since launch on some of my thief’s skills, at least, or maybe not be forced to go into D/D every time since condition damage with a thief is completely pointless and S/D is getting nerfed, yet again, while warrior has free reign to have the highest health regen on a passive signet while still doing more damage than any other class.

i have the feeling this guys is right…the Venom Share is also quite pointless, along with the PVE condi thief

JonathanSharp.7094:

Thief
Venomous Aura was very difficult to use, as the radius was fairly tight. We’ve now increased that radius a bit, so that it’s easier to share venoms with allies without huddling closely together.

We’re also looking at shaving the efficiency of Flanking Strike slightly, so that it now only removes 1 b detailoon instead of 2.

Also, pistol main hand may see one of its skills reworked to better support allies. We have multiple prototypes that we’re trying out, so we’ll have to see which we settle on by the next release.

i think lowering the cost of LS to 1 ini would be a nice return to the nerf from 2 buffs stolen to 1. Why ? We still need to pay the 3 ini for IS. “Removing”, i was thinking we are stealing them to give to us. Are you guys planning to nerf it hard and rebuff it later on ? Strange way you have to balance things…

Venom Aura was described in detail by me what it needed in a previous post.
Altering conditions to 5stack max, will make it nearly useless in PvE vs dungeon boss.
you can give it 9999 range, but if it’s not worth it, no one will take it. simple.

and finally you are paying attention to LFG tool ingame … finally you guys are doing something usefull for us !!! the site was a workaround …. not perfect, not 100% up and it isn’t yours either…..do you know what happens when it is down ? LOTS of unhappy customers !
maybe i will return and play gw2 a bit more if i like the final patches

thank you for informing us heads on, i appreciate that, and that it can be discussed
(as long as i can write an opinion and you guys actually read it, i am happy, even if you might not apply it)

we wanted at least 450 range on the kitten venom share, why it’s so complicated to undertand ?
600 would be ideal, to be on par with the banner range (untraited)

the OMG the venom share is OP … well…. it is strenghtening the party, but YOU are weak alone, sacrificing at least 3 traits (one beeing grandmaster)
zerg warfare, they are anyway 500 / sq meter, so range is not an issue there, but in PVE partys….oh boy…
not even mentioning that you have to give up the 30 in CS to get the lol venom share

objects are still immune to conditions, so .give me 1 solid reason to take it
(hint: the Lotus Poison nerf made the venom share more crappy than it was already, and the 5max debuff stacks, make things even worse, you think adding 60 more range after all this nerfs will change my option from pure dps build ??? hell no)

let me give you an example:
All duration stacking boons(Aegis, Fury, protection, Regeneration, Retaliation, Swiftness, and Vigor) and conditions(Blind, Burning, Chilled, Cripple, immobilze(now stacks duration), and Poison) now stack to a maximum of 5 times.

you activate “Spider Venom” via venom share, all 5 players are melee. The boss gets 5 stacks of poison, rest is wasted. (same as the other venoms)
1.either you guys are clueless how skills/traits/durations influence each other or 2.you want to heavly nerf a practically non-existant pve build

FyiNight.5784:

Like my topic says , Theifs really need some nurfs. 24/7 invis, blindness da faq
gtfooh…..not to mention THAT DMG, 3-6k behind the target WTF?

feeding the troll* , yum yum

i also agree that thiefs need nurfs, but none listens

Volrath.1473:

they can do it but they will not do it due to ppl crying about stealth. what they might do is implement the same 4sec in WvWvW so that it feels more natural, not the other way around.

the nerf god agrees that revealed “buff” should last 4s in wvw
for Pve it won’t be that good…

BS is still OP even with the “miss” bugs !

thank you for the video, scorpion wire will be nerfed in the next patch !

Devildoc.6721:

Looks like the damage from LH and FGS were “unintended” so Anet just nerfed them. By how much? Or was this a thing of the original patch accidentally buffed the conjures and this patch just restored them to what damage they were a few days ago?

you got nerfed hardv ! the troll in me is happy

i am proposing that, while in combat, you get the revealed “buff”

Wilhelmryan.9203:

Ragnarok players should be familiar with this skill, it could be interesting for stealth mech to change into this, which could reduce the amount of QQ on stealth.

basically “stalk” is a stealth mechanic that leaves a subtle trail of footprints, so you’ll still be able to tell where the thief is, but the thief will only be revealed if hit by an aoe or etc.

i approve the stealth nerf !

exotic (or ascended) zerker gear !
i would be ashamed to walk in greens….

d/d, with zerker gear
every mob will fear your backstab =)

the burrows in AC, or the pedestal in COF p1 disagree with condition damage, and tend to ignore it
get 4 more “bleed friends” with you
2 work doing 25 bleed max limit, and the other 3 in the party watch and eat popcorn

you are right my friend
thief class is manly for PVP and solo WvW
in pve is …. meh…

we are receiving buffs and nerfs by the number of whine threads
end of story.

d/d is not for pve
ascended armor ? zerk or combined with valkerie

simple, you change to your alt guardian/warrior/mesmer, and go to fractals
easy as pie

Budchgon.2108:

Several friends and I recently had our kitten handed to us by a pair of bleed thieves using DB.
This isn’t a moan/nerf post, I was amazed by how effective it was at taking us down and our inability to damage them… Kudos to them :-)

I see lots of guys/gals talk about p/d and d/p builds but rarely hear mention of the bleed db build – and I can tell you, it is super effective (or was against my friends, myself and several others who foolishly tried to help) hehe

Nothing more amusing than to die, then some big-headed guy/gal comes along boasting about how he never dies to thieves and how we must be noob/pve’ers… then 5 minutes later he’s dead next to you

DB is OP, plz nerf ! thanx !
it should give only 1 bleed and NO evasion
3 bleed is too much for my condi removals skills !

you move and attack faster

Zepidel.5349:

…Is the single most overpowered utility in the game, and I’m absolutely mind boggled that i don’t see EVERY thief using this in SPvP.

>10,000 range teleport, you don’t even need anyone to step on it.

>If someone does step on it you have 10 seconds to teleport to them. (getting gangbanged 1/2 way across the map? No biggie just pop this baby and ur safe, did I mention it was a stun breaker?).

>When you do this you gain 5 seconds of invis (allowing you to pre cast stuff like basilisk venom) That means for 5 whole seconds after you TP to the guy who triggered it he will have no clue that you are there.

>You also gain 10 stacks of might and fury, when used in conjunction with assassin sig and +5 might on sig trait you gain an insane dps boost for the coming BS, HS,HS (DEAD). Just pop the trap on your home objective in SPvP and wait for some idiot to step on it and 3 shot him all day long.

So tell my why this isn’t always on your bar in SPvP?

here we go (again), another whining thread …. yeey….

Burnfall.9573:

In one note; Dev. Robert.H who was our last hope, was fired not too long ago.

if that guy was responsable for the AC modifications and the res system, then he deserved it

Burnfall.9573:

Thanks for wasting my time.

you’re most welcome ! anytime !

i was perplexed =)))

Direwind.8409:

its totally insane how a class with stealth can just pop it and even when hit directly remain in stealth, classes like thief just stealth spam using cloak and dagger and reset a fight at will, it takes no great feat of skill to just spam stealth nonstop stabing a player who has no clue where you are.

yes I have an 80 thief.

Stealth should not remove target lock, you should regain lock once they appear.
stealth should not be stackable.
stealth should be removed when they attack and are blocked.
any and all action from stealth should remove stealth.
if you take a direct hit (not aoe) you should have stealth removed.

thay R OP, please nerf !!!

Zacchary.6183:

“I recently got pwned by a thief and do not have the potential to better myself. Instead of practicing with friends or learning about the class, I just scream OP all over the forums until anet gives that class a nerf. I require outside assistance to get by in competitive gameplay. I also refuse to read this article.”

Your welcome.

thiefs R bad guys and OP 2
the brain is dead atm… ^^
actually, even after nerf(s), the whining continues, just for the LULZ
Schadenfreude – (“joy in the suffering of others”)

L2P = Learn To Paint ! ahahahahaha

shortbow is THE aoe weapon of thief (#2-clusterbomb)
don’t say sword, because 3 targets, is not the same thing kitten targets

and CB seems to be a bit better on the kitten objects (ex. burrows in AC)

0.1/10, for the effort

yes, it is 200

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low health means 10.6k for a thief….. basically 0 extra vit

only the OP worriors and necros start with 18k, enjoy the thief class class

you can’t tank, but you can stalth and be invincible during that time !

Rassase.7943:

Back to dota2, bye..

bye bye !
(no, i am not very constructive in threads….)

thiefs are OP !
nerf them more !

so any ETA when we can have it working again?
or the in-game party finder ?!?

i also think that thief damage needs to be reduced by 99% !
why? they have moar mobility and stealth as compensation !

Coloxeus.3480:

any S/D + non S/D(ex. Shortbow) is not viable anymore in spvp or tpvp cuz of high init. cost of Larcenous strike or unless if you gonna go S/D+S/D. so most of the players now using S/P Shortbow cuz pistol whip dmg is really good with stunevade and 5init. cost is just fine! 1 pistol whip can kill a foe @ 70% hp… but LS 5 init. cost 1/2sec casting time is really hard to hit unless if u gonna spam it… but 1 FS+LS damage is almost 40%-50% lesser than the dmg of 1 pistol whip flurries.

i think PW needs to be nerfed again !!!
shortbow too

greatsword for the lulz

i want 10% damage bonus on dagger training instead of 5%, as other classes have
i also want 10% bonus on Flanking Strikes (the trait)
Fluid Strikes to be converted to-> Increases damage by 10% when endurance is full.
the kitten endurance bar seems to be 90% of the time full

Black Cat.1024:

What happens when you Mug while having the trait Hidden Killer? (In stealth of course)

how those 2 skills are related ? i can’t see the connection o_O

Gwalchgwn.1659:

This topic is meant for just silly comments people say about thieves without really knowing them

thief is OP

Oxygen.5918:

Thread title.

To add to this,

At best, this skill doesn’t miss and you can kinda catch someone, though less than just using heartseeker or any other gap closer. At worst, it’ll be “obstructed” by a blade of grass. As if it wasn’t underwhelming already, the tooltip needed to be wrong and for the worse.

Ever wonder why no one reported this? Nobody uses this skill seriously. The damage nerf more or less killed it completely, and now, it’s also useless for condition thieves due to the godawful duration. #1 testing anet.

i never doubted their testing ability, it is below poor

Chew Magna.4830:

I like it because I get a purple bubble from the combo field.

they are worthkitten th the gunk the chaos armor
w o r t h l e s s is banned ? O_O

1) d/d and s/p or shortwbow (depending on dungeon)
2) 0/30/30/0/10
3) PvE

Crazylegsmurphy.6430:

Tried 20 times and can’t beat him. I understand HOW to beat him, but I can’t

Can anyone give me an idea of what build you used to beat him?

use blackpowder on him. he will be confused and unable to attack
it works on all bosses and mobs

Razor.6392:

Sorry piece of kitten moderators but this isn’t an off topic post.

i am also agreeing with the OP, thief needs more nerfs !

nearlight.3064:

Hello, after dumping a ton of time and money into my elementalist, I’m finally starting to feel underpowered in that class and I’d like to possible switch my main to a thief, however I’d like to know how great they are in PvE content. My only experience with thieves is in spvp.

So please tell me possible builds, weaponsets, strategies, gear advice, and whatnot. Thanks!

a better choice would be warrior or guardian, trust me