Guild Wars 2

faeral.7120:

should thieves start complaining because their heartseeker doesn’t let them dodge?

Your argument is invalid.Heartseeker aint autoattack..The first skill of every weapon of every proffession is the autoattack which is meant to be spamable,its the attack you do while you have the cds on the other skills of your rotation…
I dont want to do 2 skills and then just move away and stand in a corner till my cds are again up.Its boring and stupid

Is this a code or something?I found it very compicated

Substance E.4852:

Guys, I’m going to let you in on something that will apparently blow your mind. Corporations and brands aren’t your friend. They don’t care about you personally and your only value to them at all is the amount of money in your pocket you are willing to give to them for a product.

Anet didn’t make this game out of the goodness of their hearts and aren’t running a charity. This all happened because they figured it was a good idea economically and someone upstairs with all the capital agreed with them.

If you want us to treat the devs like human beings then they need to meet us halfway. That means no more bullkitten about updates that won’t come and actually interacting like people instead of posting prepared statements every few weeks that are nothing but vague allusions and hype.

Thats why i like communism..

The most annoying thing is that after all this time Anet still refuses to change this skill..And dont say me you dont have time.They have time for underwater and they dont have time for a totally wrong weapon?I cant find any logic sense in this.
Its not the first thread about the sword and i dont think they really care..And i repeat,i really like this game,i really enjoy it but it seems that Ranger is the black sheep of GW2

Count me in..I play in NA server.The time im free is after 20:30 everyday(Greece time,i think Greece got GTM +2)

AlexRD.7914:

Also, the “omgswordrootingissobad” also helps identify thieves in stealth. Hit the air and if you leap forward, there you have your thief.

Yes ive noticed many times in pvp but thats a bug that the devs can live with it,the animation glitch was outrageous…ahahahaha

AlexRD.7914:

Can you guys stop complaining about the sword already? Rooting you is a good thing, it means what that you’re rooted TO THE TARGET. If the target moves, you move along with him. Have you tried to kite a sword ranger? Its impossible, because of the 2 leaps + cripple.
If they fix this, then sword will be useless. Time your monarchs leap people!

Come on man..
That may works in pvp but not in PvE.Have you ever seen a mob running away from you or trying to kite you…?You cant even move..

Community cries out for duel while Anet put more conquest maps in the game..If GW2 has a chance to become esport is through duel for sure.They made a huge mistake with their decision to stick to the conquest pvp.
And they are not willing to change their plans in what the community says..
But no,they are doing things in the way THEY think is better,well im pretty sure THEY will have much fun in the end

compare this https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/7084/gw009.jpg

to this
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/21823/guard_-_front.jpg

Actually the most lame are the heavy,some of them are like tins and so not brutal,just see the starting gear in pvp for a Guardian and a Ranger,Ranger got a mask,long coat and almost i cant smell the leather.
Guardians are like 2nd rated soldiers that die first in movies,the dumb ones that charged first..
Medium are totally awesome,it was one of the reason why i choose to be a Ranger.
Sword and ranged dmg was the other……(sigh)

Drasleona.5049:

Azrhyel.3942:

Definately no fix…

I have a feeling they might have slightly tweaked some vars a bit about a week ago but still you can sidestep-evade like 90% if you concentrate on that one ranger attacking you.

and this is a problem because? it existed in gw1 and not a single ranger started crying over it. it just meant they had to play smarter to land their hits. also i can sidestep bait out of a double pistol thief unload without using dodge, should i be penalized for it, i dont think so because it takes a lot of freaking effort and skill to pull off. the thing with being able to dodge arrows is, if you are not able to then it just becomes wow combat. it means as soon as you hit a button you are guaranteed a hit. im so happy this is not the case for gw2 with almost any skill, apart from ones designed in a way that are not dodge-able without using endurance dodge.

If they were hitting for 5k noone will bother,But the 2k-3k max dmg in power-crit dmg build aint worth the 9/10 miss.And why Warriors longbow has not the same fate?Is it meant for Warriors to have easy time but the Rangers must suffer?

BTW ive noticed too some change but nothing big.i thought it was my idea…or it was?

I turned off the auto attack ofc…but the thing is that i want to reach the 3rd chain of the autoattack so i can stack might to my pet…this might has a low duration and i need to spam some autoattacks anyway..i can barely keep like 3-4 but in dummies i reach the 7-8 pretty easy…Even if i compromise with few autoattack spams the 2nd and 3rd chain is rly bad..I cant understand why they are doing these statements,a honest apologize will be far more better and noone will blame them.People make mistakes i can accept this,to be the only class that have prob with the sword i cant accept it….
The community is litteraly begging for a sword fix,just to be as any other meele weapon,remove this kitten leap,noone wants it,i know that Anet devs want it but consider the possibility that you are wrong about it.
Its doesnt affect the balance at all and i dont know how much programming it recuires but for the love of God,delay any underwater fixes.
10/10 rangers says WE DONT CARE ABOUT UNDERWATER.
It cant be the wrong direction.

Sorry for the long post again,i just want to enjoy my new build

Hi guys..Im a Ranger too and i have found at last the build that fits my playstyle.
Its the BM,with boosted Healing+Vitality+Power.I found it so funny when my precious Jaguar crits for 5k and i m supporting him/her…(actually its “her” ,ive seen her raising her tale infront of me many times).
So i found the right skill,the right elite and here comes weapons.
At first i was longbow/shortbow..I dont use long bow for the dmg and i never stand at full range so i dont have any particular problem with it.
Only that its not good at aoe groups
So heres comes the Shortbow nice dmg,i really like the combo Lynx Leap with the 4 skill but still its a weapon with many cond dmg on it and in aoe groups its more weak than longbow.
I desperatly wanted a aoe weapon than can support my pet.
Axe?nah. Greatsword?nah. Warhorn?sure. Sword? very good,autoattack that stack might to my pet..and a good aoe.
So i picked a exotic sword and go to the first dungeon expl that i found.
Guys thats laughable…I cant understand why they let such a weapon to be existing…I cant understand what they were thinking when they made it.
I was almost all the time downed cause i couldnt dodge roll,i mean i couldnt play with this…how in the name of god can the testers?So clunky,so fail animation..How i can stay in meele range with this?I cant play my favorite build cause of this
FIX IT YESTERDAY

Sorry for long post

I bought GW2 having in my mind a great pvp mmo…Ive watched some Ranger beta videos and i really like the animations and the philosophy that was stated from Anet behind the Ranger (spirits,pet,etc etc)
I have tried both Trap and QZ power Ranger (before the QZ nerf) a long time ago.Yes they were effective but it didnt fit my playstyle.
So actually the question is :
Would you prefer a Necro or a Trap Ranger for some condition dmg in the team?

Lets see…
I can speak for my class actually..i dont know many things for other proffessions to make you a good statement.
So a Longbow Ranger aint viable,the bunker Ranger is a joke,the support Ranger is a joke

Its something like this..
Just remember what we (Rangers) have been told before 15 Nov patch.
Signets,spirits,shouts being lackluster..Improve the pacing of some weapons…16 bullet points…etc etc etc.
And now remember what we got….
Now imagine what we will get in the next patch when nothing is mentioned.

I can only imagine:
1.A fix with some animation that made Rangers to shoot not enough arrowy arrows.They were more white than we wanted.It took us like 2 months but now you can enjoy the real arrows
2.We buff the air combat system..Now whenever you are in the air dmg is increased by 15%.Jumping is not included. (It would be hilarious to see all rangers jump from mountains like a massive suicide group)

Imo the success in Esports comes with the balance..Theres no point to be playing as a casual player if you know that you are a step behind than others.
A good step to this direction was the no gear farming for pvp..
But after all this time still some proffessions/builds are the best in PvP and people dont want to play over and over the same build/proffession.
So yes,the pvp is dead imo….its just sad to go on twitch.tv and witness GW2 channel with 300 max viewers

I would like to hear some opinions from the other proffessions..And please also say why i should/shouldnt

Thank you man you made my day..
Well no,Rangers are no OP against any proffesion,actually the opposite.
Right now Rangers are the most weak class in PvP and its a fact stated by JPeters himself

Rangers are a good PvE class.
Now in PvP we will be the last pick for a long time..I started to dealing with it.You should too
No matter when the new patch comes out there wont be any change

As the titles states i would like more info about my pvp matches..
The current AI isnt good enough i need more.
Like how many times have i become first place in score..or whats my average score…i would like to see some of these and become achiev….Sometimes i lose and i have more score than everyone.Although the only thing that will stay in GW2 memory is the defeat..

Bohun Martell.8963:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Its 150% increased dmg and has a short cd.

Afaik it is 50% increase on 1 hit.
Like 750 instead of 500.
Considering our level of control over pet….

Please make me a favor..Go to the Mists pick up a Jaguar,pick up the signet of the hunt and activate it.Dont do anything now…just click on your Jaguar….it have an icon saying attack of opportunity…and below says 150% more dmg in the next hit

its all czech and i cant understand..i would like to participate tho

Hi guys,its been a fair long time since the GW2 and im feeling that the PvP content wasnt rdy..
They started the paid tournaments and yet the ranking system aint good..No balance leaderboards
People are begging for duel and more pvp modes than conquest where prof that can be bunkers outshine.No balance between prof.
Still its the most balanced mmo out there but im feeling that the PvE content was more ready

ajlee.2607:

Eviscerate can be traited and built up to be a very powerful attack. I’ve seen Rifle’s Kill Shot crit for 15k. Warrior’s are a bit like Jack-of-all-trades, Master-of-all. Their ranged attacks some say are better than Ranger. They have high defence, high HP, high attack, have that stupid nyerking 100 Blades skill (which as a Warrior, I can’t stand! Only noobs use it), invincibilty for 5 seconds, block for 5 seconds, can support with shouts and banners, and out of all the professions, have the least amount of bugs with their traits.

Some would say they’re OP. I personally don’t think so. I just pity those who spam Frenzy + Bull’s Charge + 100 Blades. It requires no skill and ruins the game.

Actually their ranged attacks ARE better than a Ranger…

sorrow.2364:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Hey guys heres a fellow Ranger talking.I think i can feel you.Theres no point to just nerf something (BS) but you must improv other features to make more builds viable.
Im sick and tired of seeing “shortbow-d/d BS power” thiefs in pvp..
So i say dont nerf the BS dmg if you wont Buff Pistols.
Its the same and the same thing over and over again
Necro——>cond. dmg
Thiefs——->burst with BS
Engi————>Support-bunkers
Guardians——>Super Bunkers
Warriors———>pretty much everything
Mesmers———>op in 1v1,roamers,dmg,Moa
Ele——->Bunkers(they got nerfed too but still good imo)
Rangers——>Bring some traps and cond dmg cause we cant find a Necro or GTFO

Ive heard before release that every prof here can do anything but as every mmo eventually there are 1-2 builds viable for every prof

Your point is invalid.
This isn’t about that just one build is viable, it is just that one build is overperforming compared to others, so everyone runs it.

Thieves have bunch of other builds, but since D/D deals insane damage and is extremely easy to use, everyone use it. There are some pro thieves which stay away from that spec, but it isn’t the only viable option.

It is the same with almost every other profession you listed, they have more than one viable spec, but people stick with one because the ease to use or because its effectiveness, with some exceptions obviously (Eles and Necro, for instance)

How Ranger got more than one viable spec?
And yes there are some other specs for every prof but just for 8v8 zergs..just check the QP and the big teams and tell me how many Bunker Guardians and how many GS Guardians you will find..

Im BM traited and with troll urgent,with the signet of the wild and full healing gear i can keep pretty much alive my pet in PvE.Signet it ticks for 130 per sec for pet,so it can stand 2-3 low aoes.
But i think that they wont change this cause of the haste buff when swapping..
I think they want to punish you for loosing your pet.I think they want us to keep em alive with our skill.
Sometimes its imposible tho so its kind unfair

This is what ancient prophets used to do.They didnt give a clear answer..They make a two way statement…
Example:
Q: “Will i win the war?”
A: “You will win but if the sun wont be bright enough you will loose”
This was happening in the ancient place in Greece where pour people went to seek answers.
I mean next patch can be the NEXT patch but also the Nov 2015 patch

So you can say whatever you want everyone will believe what he wants to believe

Hey guys heres a fellow Ranger talking.I think i can feel you.Theres no point to just nerf something (BS) but you must improv other features to make more builds viable.
Im sick and tired of seeing “shortbow-d/d BS power” thiefs in pvp..
So i say dont nerf the BS dmg if you wont Buff Pistols.
Its the same and the same thing over and over again
Necro——>cond. dmg
Thiefs——→burst with BS
Engi————>Support-bunkers
Guardians——>Super Bunkers
Warriors———>pretty much everything
Mesmers———>op in 1v1,roamers,dmg,Moa
Ele——→Bunkers(they got nerfed too but still good imo)
Rangers——>Bring some traps and cond dmg cause we cant find a Necro or GTFO

Ive heard before release that every prof here can do anything but as every mmo eventually there are 1-2 builds viable for every prof

Fate.8673:

This definitely should be one of the signets they are looking at, the 50% increased damage for pets is great for burst but there’s barely a reason to justify the passive (although it does help jump puzzles quite a bit).

Dahkeus you’re a bit offtopic, Centaur runes require heavy investment (a whole rune set just so I can get around?), and GS isn’t something all Rangers should have to carry around to feel mobile.

Its 150% increased dmg and has a short cd.
But imo yes,10% its to low and noone will bother to become 15%.
I hope they will test it and in a few months we will see it happens

Still the statements of Jon Peter in the Rangers forum prepatch are no way reflected in the patch updates.
16 bullet points become 14
Signets,shouts,spirits,weapon improvements become a greatsword buff, a slightly spirit improve and many UNDEWATER improv/changes.

Hey guys.My main is a Ranger and i want to try some tanky Necro in sPvP.
I would like to see a good build and some tips of how to play it.Im quite a noob with Necro but i want to give a try

i think they must test it first..thats why they havent answer so far

nerva.7940:

Mace guard, svanir runes, bunker guards in general, evasive arcana and bunker eles, daze thieves and invis abuse. Portals to a lesser extent, but portals need more nerfs.

Point is, things are moving in the right direction, hence the thank you.

Again sorry but could you be more specific cause i read and read the patch notes and i dont feel you man.
And who complained about daze thieves?I though the BS ones was the problem

nerva.7940:

Even though I was a little bummed about the ranger changes, I wanna thank the PvP team for breathing some life into a boring meta. Thank you for eliminating a lot of cheesy builds. We’re back on track. On top of that, new map is sick, Capricorn is kinda fun, and 5v5 queues are a very welcome addition. Hope to see the new map in tourneys.

Faith restored, thanks again.

what exactly do you mean by “eliminating a lot of cheesy builds”?

schnibble.4981:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Guys deal with it.Nothing in life is fair and nothing is balanced…
Why this game-company should be?

You’re absolutely right.
What bothers me, is that they built up so much expectations at first.
Why dont they just say: ‘Hey, we think ranger is just fine as it is…you dont get any buffs’.

That would be ok for me. I wouldnt be the same opinion, as many others wouldnt. But then I could draw my own conclusions.

I mean ‘underwater gun’ buff? What the heck. Never read anyone complaining about it, this was maybe the most fitting part of the ranger.

But, telling people the ranger must be improved, we focus on ranger and so on…is just blinding people with false expectations.

Maybe they wanted to calm down the angry community.Just for a while,just some more incomes.We gonna ruinned them eventually so why not delay it a little more.
Many of us believed and im pretty sure many spent money in gems etc.
The same thing are trying to do again.“We didnt had enough time”.
But im sure that noone believed that now.
Its all about the bots being Rangers imo…they wont make any right changes in Rangers for a long time.Its deeper that we think

Ok the results are not 100% accurate…But still we see a huge different between the first 4 classes and the last 2..

What about the awesome underwater Ranger?How do you like that?Raid of Capricorn here i come…
Oh..Wait…Why noone is paying attention?…..What?Only one underwater PvP map?….Wait,but the buff spirits to have more change to proc…What?theres a secret cd that dont allow you to have constant buff…
I geuss ill wait when the Raid of Capricorn enters Tournament Rotation so i can join too….
What?
It never will?
So whats the point in Rangers?Why they exist?

I strongly believe that the underwater fixes were just to fill some space….I cant find any other reason.The other weird thing is that they expected to believe it…This is kinda offensive

Guys deal with it.Nothing in life is fair and nothing is balanced…
Why this game-company should be?

schnibble.4981:

Even by leaving aside what is addressed as the the ‘main concerns’ of the ranger class by most of the player base like ‘underpowered/pet problems/weak spirits aso.’, this is a really bad update compared to the statements made by Anet official side.

Underwater damge buff?
Spirit proc increase?
Combo finishers?

I mean…come’on. I’m not the one demanding an uber-ranger, an I still get around with my ranger, but adressing things that have almost nothing todo with the real ranger issues, is not what was expected from most players.

And, for me, a ranger should be the dominating class when it comes to competing with a bow. Because that is the essentials of a ranger as a class.

So I see other reasons here:
Its obvious that most bots are ranger classed. Bots create gold. This gold will be sold bypassing Anets trading mechnisms and therefore cost Anet a more or less significant amount of real money. So they may have more concerns when doing ranger changes than with other classes.

But i think some improvements for us rangers will come sooner or later. But more the later…

You are so right.Its a company and aims for the money..Everything is done for the money.I cant understand how you will raise your money by dissapointing all those real rangers but i geuss that in the end its the less of 2 evils

Velimirius.7018:

probably Mr. Peters dont give a kitten what we are writing here.

Ofc he doesnt.Have you ever saw in here a thread or a post about fixing the harpoon?
Even tho this is what we got.
And probably this post will be deleting for not contrubing in the conv but i cant get whats the meaning to write something that you think that will help to this game.
Its like they telling me : “i see what you wrote but this is my shop and i will made any changes i want,totally different from what you talked cause I think this is right”

People generally have a problem to understand that nothing is right and nothing is wrong.Is just what people want and dont want

As the title states.I dont want to be offensive but i see in the community a lot of dissapointing.And from my point of view is logical.Im just wondering if there are made any mistakes or are all in the right way just people dont understand

Understand that the community must be able to trust the developers and I cannot trust a developer who thinks underwater weapon buffs were more important than the glaring issues of ranger design.[/quote]

We will never now why my friend.We will never now why is more important

And wheres the 16 bullet point?i saw only 14

Cant be real for one reason..They dont mention shouts
But they seem pretty Anetish changes and that makes me scratch my beard

OP said it all.
Im a Ranger,i cant find a team..Not all friends play the same time as i am.I cant find team cause i dont fit any role.
I play 8v8..I take first place if i try really hard.
I take some glory points and some rank.
No big deal,ppl who had played more than me have more rank even if they will take it slower.This is grinding
I have a job,i cant play all day.I want tho to be mentioned and have meaning that i win in solo q.
Whats the difference in me being 21 rank with another player being also 21?

I would like to be like this:
1.Spirits
2.Signets
3.weapons
4.pets
5…..
6……

So now the questions starts.Is 16 enough?More than enough?Or just as many as they can make in this certain time?
Does patience pays you off or another dissapointment that will put an end in this prof?
Lets wait and see

First of all,im a great supporter of pets and their dmg.I like that the make big dmg but not on moving targets.I dont like the long animations that they have tho.
Anyway ive tried many builds and i use this for sPvP and a similar for PvE
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQNAnXVnAVUFciF+VwahgoLgp4QK6zoVp3pAUoKjrKRWF;TsAA1Cmoey8k4J7TunkPtoYQx8DA

Look friend,pets are awesome but at this point unreliable,i cant stand in meele range with 16k life for more than 15 secs and in thess 15 secs there will be made 1-2 attack from my pet.And without the +30% pet movement trait they gonna miss a lot.
With my build i can do pretty decent dmg since i got 1919 power,14% crit chance and 26% crit dmg.Some times i crit for 700 with my shortbow.And my high health make me very good in surviving.Anyway ill try in action your build and we will see.
Cheers