Aeris speak the truth..Ive been screaming since leaked patch notes came out…Take Companions Might with a crit chance build…With RaO,with Sword 1,with mighty swap trait you will be able to put 15+ stack of might to your pet easily….and remember that might also increases cond dmg..that means that bleed-poisons etc will do more dmg too
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I strongly believe that Rangers that are whinning must have issues..What Ranger lacked wasnt pet dmg,the pets did a fine dmg imo but was autoattack,didnt required skill or some current traiting.Put 30 points in BM traitline and unleash the kraken…
What pet lacked was support(most of the trait changes are focused in this area),some might accessibility and some weapon changes to make em usefull…And we see all of them in one patch,i really dont know how the longbow will be now or if the support Ranger is gonna be viable in high pvp or even if these patch notes are real…I know tho that if i want my pets to do dmg ill take the new companions might trait and build some crit chance…
Are these verified? Why decrease SB to 900? Call me suspicious but hey, “Trust but verify” you know.
People weren’t taking LB because SB had the same range for more DPS and conditions. Now that’s been replaced with less range for more DPS and conditions.
Anyone who thinks a 15-20% increase in damage on SB 2-5 is a dps boost has never used the thing before.
DPS = Damage per second
Conditions play into that, and #1 does all the DPSing, not the other 4.
So then explain your logic that they reduced the damage but increased the dps because, according to the notes, they didn’t touch the damage or conditions on crossfire nor did they increase the duration of poison volley.
Also let me inform you that you have 3 projectile finishers at Shortbow…Well i geuss that youve never fired above a fire field with dakittens ok,you will do it now
No changes were made to the Finishers. This is a straight up SB nerf. The “compensation” could be +500%, they’re only on the most conditional skills, the ones you don’t want to go spam around for maximum efficiency. SB DPS is Crossfire. 3-5 is conditional support, not DPS. IF you’re spamming these for combo effects, you’re using them wrong.
I didnt said that..I just said that Crossfire isnt the only source of dmg in Shortbow
Except it is. Using skill 2-5 lowers your damage in exchange for utility. If you want the maximum DPS out of SB, use 1 and nothing else. This “buff” changes nothing to that fact. The % increase is insufficient to suddenly validate these skills as “spammable on recharge”, they’re still a lot more useful used at the right time.
Projectile Combo finishers are pretty bad anyway. Blast Finishers and Leaps are a lot better uses of combo fields.
You can go anytime and use constantly 1 in a golem at mists..then try using a fire field from torch and mix some 3-5 skills.If golem doesnt die faster then im deeply sr i did a miscalculation
Are these verified? Why decrease SB to 900? Call me suspicious but hey, “Trust but verify” you know.
People weren’t taking LB because SB had the same range for more DPS and conditions. Now that’s been replaced with less range for more DPS and conditions.
Anyone who thinks a 15-20% increase in damage on SB 2-5 is a dps boost has never used the thing before.
DPS = Damage per second
Conditions play into that, and #1 does all the DPSing, not the other 4.
So then explain your logic that they reduced the damage but increased the dps because, according to the notes, they didn’t touch the damage or conditions on crossfire nor did they increase the duration of poison volley.
Also let me inform you that you have 3 projectile finishers at Shortbow…Well i geuss that youve never fired above a fire field with dakittens ok,you will do it now
No changes were made to the Finishers. This is a straight up SB nerf. The “compensation” could be +500%, they’re only on the most conditional skills, the ones you don’t want to go spam around for maximum efficiency. SB DPS is Crossfire. 3-5 is conditional support, not DPS. IF you’re spamming these for combo effects, you’re using them wrong.
I didnt said that..I just said that Crossfire isnt the only source of dmg in Shortbow
Are these verified? Why decrease SB to 900? Call me suspicious but hey, “Trust but verify” you know.
People weren’t taking LB because SB had the same range for more DPS and conditions. Now that’s been replaced with less range for more DPS and conditions.
Anyone who thinks a 15-20% increase in damage on SB 2-5 is a dps boost has never used the thing before.
DPS = Damage per second
Conditions play into that, and #1 does all the DPSing, not the other 4.
So then explain your logic that they reduced the damage but increased the dps because, according to the notes, they didn’t touch the damage or conditions on crossfire nor did they increase the duration of poison volley.
Also let me inform you that you have 3 projectile finishers at Shortbow…Well i geuss that youve never fired above a fire field with dakittens ok,you will do it now
No, I wouldn’t, because I’m not a terrible player that blows their utility skills for a few ticks of burning.
Facepalm..Actually is something Battosai tough me when i played at the EU SOAC profession tournament..Battosai is a terrible player and you are great..Y sure
Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.
Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.
Ive waited for you at the SOAC man…I would really love to play with you…you said it right btw check this as a potential build for bringing dmg to pets
take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One
Path of Scars pull…
:D
So they can kill you faster cause now all pets meerly tickle them…
Pets do a lot of dmg,before the dmg nerf was a AI that you cant fully control and does a lot of dmg..Learn to control it better and pets will provide more dmg after the nerf
Oh I just have to learn to control my pet? well cool then I feel better I was under this crazy assumption that I knew that already and that every useful pet we have will lose either it’s (possible) sustained damage or it’s burst entirely.
take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One
Stack might to your pet,build for pets to do dmg,dont exept to be given to you easily…
Are these verified? Why decrease SB to 900? Call me suspicious but hey, “Trust but verify” you know.
People weren’t taking LB because SB had the same range for more DPS and conditions. Now that’s been replaced with less range for more DPS and conditions.
Anyone who thinks a 15-20% increase in damage on SB 2-5 is a dps boost has never used the thing before.
DPS = Damage per second
Conditions play into that, and #1 does all the DPSing, not the other 4.
So then explain your logic that they reduced the damage but increased the dps because, according to the notes, they didn’t touch the damage or conditions on crossfire nor did they increase the duration of poison volley.
Also let me inform you that you have 3 projectile finishers at Shortbow…Well i geuss that youve never fired above a fire field with dat…Its ok,you will do it now
You don’t make longbow more viable by making shortbow crappier.
Luckily they’re doing all of this:
Long Range Shot: Reduced the aftercast on this skill from .5 seconds to .25 seconds. Increased arrow speed by 15%
Rapid Fire: Reduced initial cast time by .4 seconds. Increased arrow speed by 15%
Point Blank Shot: Increased arrow speed by 15%
Barrage: Increased cripple duration by 50%.Increasing arrow speed does not meaningfully affect the DPS of the weapon. It just increases the reliability of it hitting.
The longbow is not used because it does garbage DPS, and it has no defense.
Still if you hit more you do more dmg….
Path of Scars pull…
:D
So they can kill you faster cause now all pets meerly tickle them…
Pets do a lot of dmg,before the dmg nerf was a AI that you cant fully control and does a lot of dmg..Learn to control it better and pets will provide more dmg after the nerf
as i said before you can now stack a lot of might to pets…i think is much better now,BM builds had low skill cap…everyone had a jaguar released and thought that was the king of the map….no ppl if you want Jaguar to do dmg,go specc for it
i wouldnt call it a total nerf..IF these are the real patchnotes i think they are good again….Pets wont be so easy to put a lot of dmg..now you have to trait properly to pull out dmg from pets….with 2-3 traits you can do it easily imo…..lets see
we take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One
Some runes will also help and here you go a decent might stacking that not only boosting raw dmg,but also cond dmg
Calling lightning skill in spirit does like 1000-1500 dmg i think…now it will do 2500-3000?Power Ranger here i come….
Interesting maths.
hmm im not good in maths…but i geuss thats what they mean by 150% increase
Anyone out there who thinks this is a good “patch” for rangers is out of his mind
Not only do they nerf the range on SB, which hurts a lot of ranger builds
They absolutely gut the damage of Pets, which hurts all rangers..and they don’t give you anything else in return, I’m sorry… a few trait changes for spirits which still blow is not equal trade to gutting almost all our builds.
you are a respectfull Ranger..but i think that this will do help in these dmg nerfs: Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
With a good crit build you will be able to stack a lot of might to pets imo…and will also increase their cond dmg
Calling lightning skill in spirit does like 1000-1500 dmg i think…now it will do 2500-3000?Power Ranger here i come….
the nature magic traitline will also look more attractive too..but thats a lot of nerf in pets and not enough boost at longbow imo….still Power Ranger here i come
if they are real…Power Ranger here i come……
Lets wait guys,i know that everyone is worried but lets wait..
The guys that participate in this also must know that you shouldnt have left after the match against Necros(exept Chokolataa that said that he had to go)..
Its a tournament,if you win you move on in the next match..
Luckily we manage to gather another 4 members but you put us in great trouble..
Chokolata got me in his friendlist and so do i,in about 2 hours ill be online,wisp me and i will attend..
Keep Calm and add Soloq
If that’s the case Tyler, then why can we not see rating in game? It’s beyond pointless for there to be this invisible system and expect reasonable feedback on it. All we can see are ranking to it is reasonable for us to assume that a rank 1 would have far less rating than that of a rank 40.
Well said..Rank matters when theres so much difference….
I dont even play a HGH Engi..Why ppl want so much every class be easy killable from their own favorite class..Why dont you just enjoy the game with what every class can bring on the table?
When i play with my Mesmer i cant beat BM Rangers in 1v1 but i can contribute more to team fights than when i play with Ranger.Sure i would like to be able to join team fights with my Ranger and BM Ranger becomes weaker in 1v1 and stronger at teamfights,Sure some things need to be toned down but why every thing that is killed us some times need to be nerfed to the ground so we wont lose again…
OK I LOST,SO WHAT???
These kittens at anet don’t even know their own game! God, Camelot Unchained where are you?!?!?!?!
ESO baby, cant wait. Thes guys are clueless when it comes to the ranger.
They should just switch the class to beastmaster or get rid of the kittenty useless pet once and for all.
You are just making circles you know..Nothing is perfect.And we are talking about a game……Sure some things dont make sense but i believe that everyone got good intentions..Its not like someone is hating Rangers just cause it happens to be your favorite class.
Some traits are totally 0,some issues with pets,some weapons need fixing still i believe that every proffession has problems and in every game you will face problems with your favorite class…
HGH Engi are just fine..
A strong build,so what?
Guardians since day one is an unreplaceble proffession in any team..Now thats an issue
Yes i remember back at the “Trapper Rangers are OP” saying at forums that nothing had changed guys since day 1 in traps,they dont need nerf,learn to counter them..Still nothing changed at traps but i geuss now they are not OP…just because this build is not popular and its not killing to many players..(?!)..
Back at the SB-QZ combo,before the animation glitch fix we had another build,yes it didnt required much of an effort so it had to be nerfed,still they didnt gave something else at Rangers and Rangers disappear from WvW,PvP and PvE maps..
Now they are a lot of Rangers at PvP maps,a few at PvE and almost none at WvW..
I hope that in the incoming pet nerf they wont make the same mistake..
Dear Pug Players,
The problem isn’t the system, it’s the players.
For me I consider sPvP my arcade game in GW2, I can maybe test some builds (not greatly), and can have some relaxed playtime without caring. If I want to TPvP however, that’s where I get my team together and face strong competition, that is, after all, the point.
Players can’t seem to understand that for pre-made 5v5 teams, this is as good as it gets for us, and honestly… Why do people even pug for tournaments?
It’s designed with rating in mind, it’s designed for teams to duke it out, so why do players insist on attending as Pugs?
You don’t want to get rolled in Tournament PvP? Just please stop crying and go kitten kitten in the middle in your sPvP games. Make some friends (that’s what you do in MMOs), form a team, and then play.
If you insist on playing a heavy co-ordinated team game with complete randoms, then please at least, stop crying your eyes out like you really expected any different result.
Casual Pugs and gamers can play sPvP, leave tPvP to the teams and organized players more interested in competition.
That’s not an insult, that’s the way the game is formed. It’s like PvE, if you don’t want to learn boss tactics that’s fine, but don’t complain if you cannot be successful in Raiding (talking other MMOs here).
TH
Dear Team player
You will soon end up playing alone in empty maps if people stop playing pugs..And i mean really soon….
On another topic now,i saw yesterday the towerdivetv tournament..Had like 300-400 viewers as much as i watch it….Do you know dear team player how much viewers LoL have at tournaments?Do you know whats the more successfull game nowdays?Do you know how many active players LoL has?Do you know that LoL has soloq?
A real soloq is more than a need,is vital
I just checked now some custom Arenas and they are all empty..what happened?Is it because you cant really make something different with the current state or is just that people prefer the hotjoin mode?
Its seems that Mesmer runes doesnt stack with Moment of Clarity..Tho i thing that Paralyzation stack.need to to more tests and more accurate…
Thats why i will take Signet of Stone instead of Muddy Terrain and soldier jewel..still i believe that crit dmg is nice
Well i found Wolf to good to replace it with anything..Ive try it works good..Daze is a strong tool imo…Nice for point fighting.
This build lacks in 1v1 situations and i found that maybe Signet Of Stone instead of Muddy Terrain and soldier Jewel will work a little better….
Still im in the learning and adaptin phase,i soloq some tournaments and i did pretty well
I dont know if its a common thing or it only happens to the GW2 Rangers community..
When a QQ thread comes up everyone starts to comment and raging and making such a noise..
When a proposal or an build discussion comes up…..Silence
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjAV91NWWWs2BgVh9aPy0SMZPOkxFvYlckA-ToAg0CnIkSJlTKjUSpsSNQYhA
How about this?For sPvP only
I run this build for some time now and i find it amusing.Dont know if its gonna work well with a team but the dmg is good,the cc is good,the cond removal-survivability is good..
Opinions?
What really afraids me is that they didnt say “change” they said “nerf”..In the previous balance patch they changed Ride the lightning for Eles,they didnt just nerf it,if you hit an opponent its just the same as it was..And i believe is a good way in making changes and not destroying builds..But again they said nerf,a word that indicates to me that they just gonna lower the dmg in all skills for 10%,noting else.This is not the way Anet operates in the last balance patches so i geuss i might be wrong…And with the trait changes announced i geuss theres gonna be some nice changes….Lets say the nerf the total dmg of pets for 10%,but also they fix Companions Might trait so it gives 2 stacks of might for 5 secs.That means that my wolf can no longer do 3,5k dmg with leap when im not traited for BM but if i take that trait he will,so pets dmg become a part of the build
When i signed up i was 33,now im almost 35 :S..I geuss that wont be a problem since i sign up at 33
I heard Necros will have a unique condition..Wouldnt be interesting for Rangers to get a unique boon?A stacking boon that increases pets stats..
We have master’s bond which is a stacking boon that increases pet stats.
That disappear after pet swapping..Why not have access to master bond all the time and for any pet active?
I heard Necros will have a unique condition..Wouldnt be interesting for Rangers to get a unique boon?A stacking boon that increases pets stats..
I think that Rangers cant really help pet with boons,mostly the opposite.There is the Fortifying Bond,the Bountiful Hunter and the Companion’s Might traits that you might say that can provide some boons at pets but i think they are not good.Especially Companion’s Might is probably the worst trait in the game.1 sec of 1 might….(I hope with the next trait changes that will get a lot of love buts thats another topic)…
So Rangers lack of boons(thats ok since the boon class is Guardian) but i found it interesting to be able to synergize more with my pet..
It will bring more builds and it might make pets more 2 dimentional..They will raise from low to high dmg a lot and they wont be like “jaguar does x dmg with every hit in,end”
In pvp i wouldnt mind that much..If we can have some changes in weapons,more access in might stacks so we can bring out some occasionally dmg.But in pve this will be devastating.Pets die a lot and we are losing a huge part of our gameplay..
thats a terrible idea imo..It will be good with a dmg boost in Rangers but i highly doubt it
Had the opposite effects for proc and active aoe..For example the sun spirits will have a active that has fire aoe and a proc chance to the next attack cause miss.The frost will give Xstacks of might as active aoe and a proc chance to cause chill in the next attack.The stone will give aoe protection and a proc chance to make your next attack cause cripple and the storm to give aoe swiftness and the next attack to do lighting strike..
It would be awesome although i doubt Anet will want to do this..
you know something..I can think of bigger problems that had a solution..I think that just they put effort in pve content and completly ignoring this for now.Its quite simple,dont act like this is a physic algorithm that needs to go to harvard for solution
Sometimes i see ppl leaving my team as soon as they realize that im in..Leaving me room to own some premades
Yea knowing is good.Everytime someone leaves,everytime in my team a R1 guys appears,everytime i face premades with this R1 guy ill keep this in mind to calm me and enjoy it.Anet knows..
When i soloq they keep matching me with premades foes and R1 teammates..I must be very good
Plz fix Longbow..I want so bad to use it but the autoattack is very very weak.Everyone is admiting it and everyone will be happy with some minor changes.
Guys have you heard of Companion’s Might?
I really wanted to be there when this trait was born
Devs sitting in a table
“Now lets add this trait to Rangers to fill a trait slot,i dont know,i dont want something OP,just a worthless trait that noone will ever use..Ok,pets seems a lot of disfuctional so lets give em 1 stack of might for 1 sec…” everyone laughed and had a great time
Sometimes i cant understand why these forums even exist..I mean ppl are screaming for soloq and for fair matchmaking for a long time now.Ppl want it Anet doesnt give it…So whats the meaning for us writing something here?Welcome to the real world guys..No,Anet just do what they are supposed to do,they wont change their plans because you want something else..Just play with r1 dudes
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Are there any plans?I see a lot of people asking for it and i dont know if theres a plan for it..