Guild Wars 2

I would rage too if the title was GW2 esports AAA PvP is a big fail..Pv kitten till very good for a MMO,considering how many aspects this game has

Sorry guys,i strongly believe that esports wont happen..Just a nice competitive pvp community.We are at month 9 and still many things to be addressed and theres other games more esports focused out there ready to come out.
Still really nice to see all this and as a casual player-stream watcher ill say that i enjoy a lot the Blu casts

Socram.6587:

Spec templates != Seeing the enemies’ classes, which is what you wrote.
The first has been asked for quite often and will hopefully be implemented not too far in the future… the devs at least said that it’s a feature they’d like to have.

You are right..Sr i didnt express it correct..I had in my mind something like LoLs pick when i was saying seeing enemies classes

Socram.6587:

Open the scoreboard.
Problem solved

Well i prefer saving my builds instead of putting em again and again after every match..

Rerroll.9083:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Rangers are OP and all due to their pets….
I dont want to live in this planet anymore.
When i see an opposite BM Ranger i do one and only thing…..Avoid Pet attacks…So easy since they stop moving before attacking.Pets are so easily kiteable…They only thing that they must reduce is the leash range…Everyone complaining about Ranger OP i think they will stop in a few weeks after they found out that a BM Ranger does 0 pure dmg…Only pet and cond dmg…Keep cleansing and dodge pets attacks not Rangers…Shortbow hits for 150-200,no skill does like 3k dmg so you dont need to dodge.when it comes to sword it will be tough since it locks you AND THE RANGER down…Ranger cant dodge or move freely during the Swords autoattacks,use it against him..And a BM Ranger is totally worthless in teamfights,the only thing that can do is just to aoe fear with wolf,and believe it even BM traited,even with many regen,pets oftently die in teamfights,especially the dmg ones (cats,birds).

He will not kill you, but you won’t kill him either. And don’t forget we are playing conquest, so it’s easy to abuse this.

Because we are playing conquest is easy to do harm without killing him..Rangers have low access to stability.An elite skill,a traited at power traitline signet(no BM Ranger go there,needs 20 points) and one trait(not stability,every 90secs a cc goes to pet)..
Imo ppl should be able to see what class are facing before the match starts so they can change skills-traits-weapons…I would like to see if opposite team has a lot of thieves to bring some stun breaking skills or choose a cond removal skill if i see a necro.Same goes for the others,if you see a Ranger bring a cc with you,you will need it
Problem solved

Rangers are OP and all due to their pets….
I dont want to live in this planet anymore.
When i see an opposite BM Ranger i do one and only thing…..Avoid Pet attacks…So easy since they stop moving before attacking.Pets are so easily kiteable…They only thing that they must reduce is the leash range…Everyone complaining about Ranger OP i think they will stop in a few weeks after they found out that a BM Ranger does 0 pure dmg…Only pet and cond dmg…Keep cleansing and dodge pets attacks not Rangers…Shortbow hits for 150-200,no skill does like 3k dmg so you dont need to dodge.when it comes to sword it will be tough since it locks you AND THE RANGER down…Ranger cant dodge or move freely during the Swords autoattacks,use it against him..And a BM Ranger is totally worthless in teamfights,the only thing that can do is just to aoe fear with wolf,and believe it even BM traited,even with many regen,pets oftently die in teamfights,especially the dmg ones (cats,birds).

Totally awesome-great-godlike-i-dont-know-enough-englikitteno-express-it thread..I hope that the devs will take these in mind and rush or leave behind some things they are planning….Its totally obvious that we need soloq as soon as possible

I dont know why is so difficult…Dont separate the matchmaking….Give the chance to high lvl premades face high lvl soloqers(i know its lame but lets face it,theres not a huge playerbase to support separate soloq-premade) and give X rating..But when a match is soloqers against soloqers give another rating Y,totally different from the X

Not only this..I imagine something like LoL rune pages and masteries system..Lets say that your main is a Ranger,you got like x builds that you can play efficient.A bunker,a roamer,a supporter(just saying)..Every build is saved and before the match starts you get a chance to see what are your teamates so you will adapt to your team formation…You have some time also to chat with your teamates to clearify who will do what…

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

I thought this thread was srs?
Well then: A pet can destroy the treb solo, while the ranger is on the node. The pet can interupt orb-capping and buff-capping without the need of the ranger itself to be there. The ranger has high-survivability due to protection, regeneration and perma-dodging, while doing high dmg output. If fighting on the node a pet has a high-chance to hit the target actually. (even wihout cripple,chill)
The ranger lacks in teamfights due to no support or AoE-dmg. That’s why he never took the ele’s position.

I can understand your conserns for the leash range..Although everything you named comes with 1 build…BM,beastmaster+healing+toughness+cond dmg…This build it relies in pets doing dmg and its a single target build as you said..So ill ask you again.Why you want pets to be weak in a Pet focused build?Its like you asking for weak meditation skills in a meditation build….

Dude… it was an obvious sarcasm-joke-thread. Please don’t take it serious. Allthough I find BM-Rangers one of the best builds at the moment, it’s not op or need a nerf.
Time to relax and calm down

Im totally calmed and relaxed.Well,theres a difference between sarcasm and irony..This thread imo leans more to the irony

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

I thought this thread was srs?
Well then: A pet can destroy the treb solo, while the ranger is on the node. The pet can interupt orb-capping and buff-capping without the need of the ranger itself to be there. The ranger has high-survivability due to protection, regeneration and perma-dodging, while doing high dmg output. If fighting on the node a pet has a high-chance to hit the target actually. (even wihout cripple,chill)
The ranger lacks in teamfights due to no support or AoE-dmg. That’s why he never took the ele’s position.

I can understand your conserns for the leash range..Although everything you named comes with 1 build…BM,beastmaster+healing+toughness+cond dmg…This build it relies in pets doing dmg and its a single target build as you said..So ill ask you again.Why you want pets to be weak in a Pet focused build?Its like you asking for weak meditation skills in a meditation build….

For 2 days now i see a lot of threads “Rangers-Pets are OP”..Its a shame you know…We have to rely on our pets and still ppl wish that they should stay broken and disfunctional.I also agree at Warrior need buffs and Eles needed this nerf still i never complaint about Mesmers Elite skills being awesome,or for Thieves having to much stealth..I just accept that classes must bring something to the table to be viable

Pets can so easily be kitted..Its a fault revealing this to you but if it makes you stop complainig it fits me

Fenrir.3609:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Pets miss their attacks cause you know..They cant attack moving targets.

Bit like most players then :p

Thats what im talking about.Ppl doesnt know what pets do.Well my friend name one autohit that has casting time.Its not like players who can be behind a target and land attacks while moving…Imagine to follow a target and everytime you want to hit to stop moving and start a animation…No this isnt like most players now

We must be playing different games..Pets miss their attacks cause you know..They cant attack moving targets.
Heres the video and plz before you talk make some research
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iK-QnDSKys

Its an old video and this has been improved but still the pets DONT ATTACK MOVING targets.They stop and start a animation for autohit and other skills too..Wolfs aoe OP fear had a 3secs animation……3 kitten secs animation,if you cant dodge this dont name it OP.

@Empathetic Fighter
Cats: health increased from 13,000 to 14,868; armor is 1374 (no change).
You cant kill something with 14,868 hp and 1374 armor.Sure it can heal and stats improve if you trait BM but still its one build that is focused in using pets.You wish for BM builds to have weak pets that die easily?

All of you who claim that pets are OP now that their hp increased take a test,record it in a video and show it to me here…Make a Ranger,take the Fire Drake pet,got Mists and try landing just once the F2 skill….Without using any cripple or chill effect.Do it now that the skill has half casting time and imagine how it was when it had double…From 3secs went to 1,5….If you do this and hit the whole skill then i will ask you apology and ill never post in QQ Ranger threads.Till then first test the class and then judge plz,its more constructive than throwing accusasions

Ofc they can..Ah this wonderfull video..Its candy for my eyes.Can you plz link build?
When the pet does what is suppose to do everything is perfect..
We can do big dmg in sPvP too (where stats are a little bit lower).I specc for 0/30/10/0/30 with berseker amulet and Longbow-Axe/warhorn..Great dmg output combined with some survival utilities can make a strong combo..And the new QZ may be weak for autoattacking with SB but now with the longer duration make other weapons better and maybe is leaving room for some better Berseker Builds..

Search and Rescue and Lick wounds are different skills..You confuse me guys..in which are you refering?

Thank you for your feedback.
Well you are right but i want all the dmg be done from my pet..My weapons,my utilities everything is focused to help the pet…Im considering to put Signet of Renewal instead of frost trap,never was 100% whats better.
I want some high crit chance to be able to crit a lot and put some might on pet,thats why i pick Rampagers.
The thing is that you can build a lot range to avoid dmg and still the pet stack on target.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNBlOD7EoiILzrwKIWLEEdBsHHKRK69oVxK9eBXMRJSA-TsAg1CqIGSNkbIzQyhsDNIYZw+DA

The philosophy behind this build is to burst ppl with pet swap..After the initial burst build some distance and let the pet do some more dmg.
Go forth-pet swap-pew pew-fall back

For sPvP only

Btw pets got almost 0 dmg buffs..(i said almost cause someone will claim a dmg buff the reduced casting time in F2,or the Signet of the Wild buff..i know its not for someone who plays a Ranger but still i want to be accurate)

Lopez.7369:

Pope.1469:

Just pile conditions on bunker rangers and they drop faster than guardians or pre-nerf elementalists. Just like how you’re supposed to crack any bunker. They have almost no on demand condition removal, you ever notice that?

For this reason alone, I’m amazed how necro never reached flavor status.

I don’t get why people say this all the time. Rangers have plenty of condition removal if they’re built correctly. It may not be on-demand, but it’s still really good.

On demand is always better than passive

@ everyone complaining about Rangers
You dont know a kitten about pets and Rangers..

Fear the new thieves..

/no charr
Totally lol

guza.6170:

faster atacks on pets aswell gg Anet

I think only in the F2 skill…the rest attacks stay the same

jokitten390:

Dardamaniac.1295:

jokitten390:

Huge Buffs to a bunkerish ranger with a bird that rolls over everything like a truck. no need for, but nvm.

Increasing its health doesnt make it do more dmg

It’s not only about the pet. Many BM-Rangers run tripple signet. Heard something about passive signet effects buffs or wut? And on the top many cd decreases…

2 Singets improved..Signet of the Stone (toughness for you and your pet,makes your pet immune to dmg) = 0 Dmg
Signet of the Wild cd reduced,still from 12sec duration goes down to 8sec.25% dmg increase for your pet and stability.I cant do the maths right now but still isnt a HUGE dmg increase

Search and Rescue change didnt made a sense to me..Who in the world is using this skill in PvP?

I will like to see how Guard will work if its traited with 20% cd reduction…From 15 sec goes down to 12..Every 12 sec you can make your pet invis and give it protection

jokitten390:

Huge Buffs to a bunkerish ranger with a bird that rolls over everything like a truck. no need for, but nvm.

Increasing its health doesnt make it do more dmg

This update is good..I will just mention the buff in pets Hp and F2.I must test it but combined with the signet buff we can see something else than BM or condition Ranger

I think the word “chicks” is kinda offensive.Or maybe not, cause english is not my first language.Especially the American argo..Still very funny thread,change the title

I really like the Whoosh Skill..I geuss you mean the Swoop while you make an anime scream before entering the battle..You know..That scream that every anime heroe cries out before charging enemies or channeling some inner power(it is known that scream makes you stronger and in Japan people have inner power-chakra-reatsu-aura)..“Whoooooooooosh!”

naphack.9346:

Dojo.1867:

Xsorus.2507:

Doesn’t sound like i’ll be able to replace PI in my build (even after its nerfed to hell) with something else in the patch.

Spirits won’t be good without heavy nature, and its doubtful whatever they add will be equiv to PI even nerfed…

Traps are still a no go unless you dump 30 points into Skirmishing.

Sharpening Stones is alright, Just wish it did something more besides a bleed.

I agree that utilities beside traits are much more of a problem than weapon skills. Sure LB and some offhand choice could be a bit better but overall our weapons are decent exspecially when traits would be reworked some day. What really sucks are our utility slot options:

• traps pidgeonhole you into a condition build, mixing just 1 trap into your build is punished because they are only good when traited -> bad design
• spirits are just a really flawed aura mechanic that would need a total remake done by someone that actually understands the class (I always cringe when I see 2 devs do balanicng for classes they most likely didn’t play in the last 3 months) … oh and they suffer from the same problems as trap that they make the traits 100% must have leaving no real options and limiting build variety, classical example of failed balancing
• signets are kind of a bad design aswell, they aren’t good at balancing so they even create signets where you not only have to balance overall strength but also find a good spot between active and passive use? …overall they seem to reward just filling one of three utility slots with a passive and do nothing
• shouts are just bullkitten and as bugged as pet AI in general, should be reconsidered aswell
• survival skills are like the only interactive skill typ that somewhat improves the combat in terms of fun but also here are really badly designed examples like sharpening stone which is just sooo boring to use

Guess, I will not get signet of Renewal and frost trap then and instead grab sharpening stone and quickening zephyr, cause they are survival skills.
Oh and I won’t get sick’em either for my bm build, cause shouts are just “bullkitten”.

Lol..i always liked the “Everything is bullkitten and i dont need to justify that,im just stating it” opinion…

No i liked the changes but still personally i wanted to see some weapon changes..They mentioned before about Longbow and still we havent seen any change..

Durzlla.6295:

Well thank god that Frost Spirit (only one without an ICD) will get a benefit from that 75% proc chance…

I’m eagerly awaiting the other buffs though…

Are you sure that it doenst has a ICD?

Yes the part for spirits was a joike…

Im kind disapointed about Rangers..Buffing pets in toughness-vitality wont put more viable builds in the table.They mention some more reliabilty in meele pets.I want to see how the F2 skill will now work but still we had a pretty good bunker-beastmaster build..Still the Longbow is useless and still we must rely on conditions to do some dmg

Again i will say that WvW isnt a place where you want balance.Large battles take place..numbers matter,massive fights matters,duels doesnt matter..sPvP is the place where you need balance,where 5 fight 5 and every member has a unique role…And in there,Shortbow is the master..

Come on guys,they talked about balance,and WvW is not a balanced place..they stated from the start and seemed fair,WvW will not have super balance.Balance is sPvP and PvE

Oh the racial Asura skill!

Sr if i sound stupid but whats PI?

i think that Rangers have the least access to retaliation and confusion…

I geuss there will be a buff in singets,since they mentioned that they will buff every signet.
And some buff in pets toughness and vitality,as well at F2 skill casting time..
That was all….
I really dont want to complain about it but can someone tell me when will i be able to use other weapons exept Shortbow?

Socram.6587:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Is it possible to see some ranked Custom Arenas in the near future?

What for? This can’t really work, as each custom server can be set up differently.

Im thinking maybe a different set up becomes very popular and ppl want to compete in it..Lets say that deathmatch 3v3 is very fun,everyone is playing it but still the top teams have to play the existing set up which it may be less fun.I dont think that devs can create the perfect game mode,they created a very interesting combat system but its all in the pvp community to find the right balance for it..

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

It’s more aboutt all the bugs that ruining the game. One of that is the pet-rezz bug. I mean after 8 months, things like this should be working properly. same with portal bugs.

Its very strange coming this from a player that was in the first place of the leaderboards..Its not a bug,the pet comes and rezz us.We are a pet class but in downed state we should be petless?Thieves,Mesmers,Elementalist can avoid the first attempt of finish no matter what.The Lick Wounds its not up when you first become downed so you have plenty of time to finish a Ranger..
Only in underwater i accept it.It is a bug,sometimes even when pet is dead it keeps healing me

Another thread about pet rezz.In my experience the only bug is that underwater sometimes my pet dies but it keeps healing me..You must know all of you that sometimes we(Rangers) press the 3 down skill(licking wounds-pet rezz) and it doesnt working..
Thats a bug.
A pet rezzing us and a aoe interupt is not.
Just stop rage complaining without knowing what is goind on.
Kill a Ranger,start finish,get interupted,start again and hes dead.The pet rezz is on cd when you entering downed mode.
Also the wolfs aoe fear is a 3sec casting skill,and has an very obvious animation.
What do you want?When you down a Ranger to die instantly?Every class has a way of avoiding the finish but i geuss Rangers shouldnt…..
If you kitten up and teamates arrives its not OP that you cant down em cause a pet is healing em.Im rarely saying that but L2P

Is it possible to see some ranked Custom Arenas in the near future?

Ok i only soloq.I was 75% and ive played some games and now im 80% but theres a red mark that shows that i dropped 5% since last update..Im confused cause i was 54-50 and now i am 57-51..I thought going from 75% to 80% is suppose to be a good thing.Why theres a red mark next to 80% saying that i dropped 5%?

Zodian.6597:

Dardamaniac.1295:

In addition why everyone picks Asura to pvp?I know that they are small and hard to click but dont you have a kind of RP in your head..?My Sylvani Ranger is an outcast that does tournaments to feed hes 4 children that he have never saw after the accident.

lmao

To answer your question though, esports has taken off pretty recently (in past 5 years or so), what was once perceived as a novelty pastime for children has become a powerhouse entertainment industry with a viewer base larger than most pro sports leagues and even most popular television shows.

The whole “esports” ideology is just something that’s been tacked on to pretty much every pvp game launched after the S2 LoL championships (which generated around 8.3 mil unique viewers). The only thing that has really changed though is the watchability of the games (spectator mode improvements, everything is in HD now, overlays/animations are much more common). I mean I still have a great time LANing it up with my friends and playing LoL or Halo for funzies, we even talk about games the same way we did back before esports really took off. Esports hasn’t destroyed the possibility of having fun in games with friends for me, maybe you just need to find cooler friends haha. ;p

Maybe im just growing older..But still theres a feeling that this little guy that used to play NBA Live 97 in his Mega Drive at his parent bedroom(there was the big TV screen) was more pure than today guy watching streams and “pros”..

Xeph.4513:

Dardamaniac.1295:

“I will never quit on my team, the only time I can assure you will quit is when my team does; we had an internal chat after the patch and came to the decision that we are not going to quit just yet. nothing else influenced me to stay apart from that.”

I don’t understand at what point that I told you I don’t want to quit so you don’t, but then again these are the forums and I suppose people like to make kitten up, so please don’t put words in my mouth.

Thank you.

It wasnt I and was my team..for that im sorry…But still why should i quit if your team does?Do you think that you have so much influence on ppl?And yes these are forums but no i dont come here to say random stuff,its a waste of time.And sorry again if you misunderstand something,my english are not perfect.I didnt meant you said that you dont quit cause you dont want me to quit.Just the statement “you quit when my team does” is at least disrespectful for me

I see where the misunderstanding is, you “I” will quit; I am not as vain as to think people will quit if we do.

Sorry that was a typo from me.
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Oh!Now i got it too..All this was sadly a misunderstanding.Im sorry too

Shukran.4851:

the ones who refuse to share their build are sad players who are worried about someone else could play better their spec.
btw when gaming become agonysm, there will be always someone “serious” about it.
so no worries, change stream or look for forums about that build and u will find it out.

It wasnt the build..Its just “dude relax”