I really hope traps to feel like traps.. Now its like i am carrying a bag of snakes and i throw them at my foes with my poison trap.. Something like a fire bomb with my fire trap..
Trap as far as i know its a device for ambushing foes.. You put a trap somewhere while you hide and waiting for your pray to step in. When they are trapped you attack.. Sometimes traps are put in a wide area and they have a kind of alarm when someone steps in..
Also i hate the fact that they dont give you any utility.. My foe just stepped in a trap. How can he just clear the cond and nuke me like nothing happened..?
Maybe anet developers must start hunting or something…
y ok.. who cares? engies are still very strong overall..
Dont you think tho that pvp needs a nice refreshing in balance? Bring a shake to this boring meta
Hey fellow rangers. New gamemode. What are you gonna change? What are you gonna keep the same?
Me i find it hard to keep the tanky condi build cause i think mobility will be vital.
Maybe some support through spirits for constant swiftnees to the npcs..
Any ideas for the role the rangers will hold?
well it does proc remorseless when you get a cc and hide in plain sight triggers.. I ve test it and ive been running this build for a while and it seems interesting to me. What do you say?
I was at 90% before the reset. I played some ranked recently and i made 2 wins and it placed me at the 21% after i lost 5 games i was placed at 3%. All the effort ive done so far to reach 90% since i dont play so often was for nothing. Now its almost impossible to reach up again. It doesnt make any sense that in one week i lost my skill. Now am i worst player? Why i keep on losing? Before reset i had more wins than loses. I dont want to blame my teammates for losing a game, i never did, but it seems to me that i got some really bad picks. After 2 wins shouldnt been placed around 90% again so i got matched up with players of the same lvl?
I once tried something VERY similar to your build.
There is one very clear problem, though.
Your build is Glassy. You die on sight (no Signet of Stone, neither Protect Me). And yet – you are effective only at melee range. If you intend to stay at long range – GlassBow is the way to go.
So you see, your build is designed for environment where YOU are practically in the highest disadvantage.
You are going to be ridiculously outshined by HamBow warriors. No discussion. While you may bring 3 more unreliable knockdowns and 1 pull, you won’t live long enough to apply them.
If a mesmer comes to contest you – you won’t survive even the 1st Mind Wreck. And you intend to use it for teamfight scenarios.
If you intend to duel with this build – it’s ridiculously binary. Enemy without Stability/Breakers will be at a disadvantage and enemies with those will roll you over a thousand times.
After the recent patch ive came up with a new build and it kinda works good.
I found out that its very usefull for teamfights. There ve been many times that i saved teammates and turned the tides of the fight.
What i bring on the table:
Safe stomps with quickness, stealth and many stability sources
Point control with pushbacks, pulls, knockdowns, aoe fear.
Aoe cond removal
Great dmg and burst on squishier classes
3 stun breaks
What it lacks
The huge dmg of a longbow power.
I would love some more cond removal.
Entragle.
Bad.. Just bad.
They wanted to put some shouts on Ranger but they didnt had the time to think over them. So they put random names and designs.. Shout that only your pet hears. More like a wisper to me
I remember watching this “new heals” stream on twitch. Ive heard rummors that the rangers heal will be a spirit and i didnt believe it cause i thought thats too stupid to be true. When i confirmed that it was indeed a spirit i facepalm so hard that i still have a mark on my face
Actually there is no ranger build that has a place in high end pvp.. Sure there are some like survival cond and power longbow ranger but lets be honest guys.. Its a mediocre pick. There isnt any build out there competing with cele engie, cele ele, shoutbow, etc etc..
So i dont believe that this build is for high end pvp. I never claimed so.
Its a fun skirmishing roaming build with good survivability and dmg..
I picked steady focus for the >swap weapon>hilt bash>maul combo. Immob and criple is a problem indeed.. With 26 k life burning and bleed is not imo.. I have the time to control em
I have tested this kitten for a while and im getting good vibes of it.. Even tho you lack cond removal you wont go down so easily. 26k life and 2,7k armor wont let you go down..
Damage is good. Good sustain and burst from a succesfull interupt.. You choose a target and you constantly pressure it. Good against cele eles ( at least with those i play against, 91% at leaderboards )
The first thing that came to my mind is how players without teamspeak will know what npcs to spawn. For example i think that we need to push so i take some supplies and i go to summon some doorbreakers. But the team disagrees and want to push with archers. Everyone call names each other and the game becomes unfun. I mean as fas as i understand this game mode needs a strong strategy to succed. And teams that arent able to communicate throught teamspeak they wont be able to pull it off.
The whole game is boring.. Hey guys did you change your builds from this refreshing last balance patch..?
Everytime i log in gw2 its the same.. Nothing new to check or add on my character..
The meta stay for so long that makes pvp boring. It was fun playing spirit ranger but not for like half a year.. And its fun to play survival ranger but its getting boring. Warriors use healing signet for like 1 and a half year.. Engies, eles etc.. Every class i played had so little options into building it..
I dont even want to start about conquest..
Recently they released a minor balance patch and i saw some dev comments telling ppl that maybe they need to change their builds cause of the balance patch..
They are so ignorant of their own game.. They think that if they change traits like this they will bring chaos..
Laughable
This is a " bad but we dont have the time to fix it " trait..
If it gave you regular stealth it wouldnt be gamebreaking..
I remember companions might as it was.. 1 sec 1 stack of might..
Truly laughable. Its like this trait didnt even exist..
So they buffed it and still noone use it.
My point is that they can fix some traits in one patch and there wont be any difference. Some traits are ridiculsly underpowered for a 2 years game..
Hi.
Im from Greece and i paly since launch.
I mostly do spvp but occasional i do some dungeons or fractal runs. I do almost 0 WvWvW.
Im rank 59 with over 3500 games.I did a break and now im back.
I dont consider myself as a hardcore player although i play to win and work on it as much as i can. But for me fun comes first.
I main Ranger and mesmer.
Thank you
Yes cause rapid fire and longbow its too strong right now. Dont you see how all the top players in pvp and the pve parties crave for a longbow power ranger..
/sarcasm off
If these notes are true im sure that these devs want the game to fail.. Maybe its a company policy for other new games to thrive. So many bad choices for no clear reason
It could fit the cele meta. Its not sure ofc. But i still remember ppl complaining that gs is power weapon so it shouldnt be a bleed dmg skill there.
But the meta shifted and now we all wish we could have another solid weapon choice. Sure its a nice weapon for high power builds but imo its dmg doesnt worth the risk.
Very good suggestions. Thank you very much.
For GS selection i have to say that i like the interupt with #5. I find it usefull for stopping rezzing or stomping. Sure sword/x can provide more dmg and maybe sometimes is better. I had tried it and i feel a little better with GS.
Water runes is a very good advise and i will go for it for sure.
Y owls chill is crazy. Although i cant keep myself from smiling when my jaguar hits with bite for 8-9 k on squishy and 6-7 on tanky classes.
Constantly stealthing, might stacking, regenarating and speeding jaguar. This jaguar hits like a truck and it cant be stopped or targeted. The regen-natural healing-sotw keeps it alive in the combat, the swiftness- stability training-sicem keep it on target, the might stacking-sicem makes it hit like a truck and the f2-guard makes it untargetable.
Sure its weak against cond but if you save some dodges for poison cleanse and healing spring you can outheal most cond.
Group support is there through regen and swiftness.
The damage from the Ranger is decent too.
@Prysin.8542
I dont think that Laaw is an uneducated and unrefined player..He played a LB zerk Ranger in ESL match. I know that he agrees too that its not a solid build but still its not totally garbage as you believe..
Anyway at OPs question my personal opinion is that there is not a math behind meta builds cause right now there is not meta as we know it in other games..
GW2 pvp has a small pvp community compared to other esports games as LoL, Dota2 etc..
Also there are not enough tournaments.
So i believe that there are things that work and noone had discovered em yet.. Or noone wants to try em.. Top pvp teams dont want to push the meta to its limits.. And there are not enough competition for this to happen.. We have great players and teams but they are not feeling threatened enough to push the meta out of the limits
Im playing this build lately and i found it really strong both in support and in survivability/dmg.. Huge burst coming from the pet.. Really huge.. Jaguar crits constant for about 1.2k – 1.4k, bites can reach 6-7k and with the stability provided is unstopable.. Ranger too does some good amount of dmg while under the effect of mights and the % dmgs increase..
The regen is insane.. Almost 100% regeneration, Singet of the Wild ticking for 130 + regen tick 272 = 402 hp/sec.. And every 25 sec another 986hp/sec.. You outheal every condition exept poison.. Poison hurst so you must save some dodges to cleanse it..
The reason that i choose Longbow is for the fast attacks.. I try to always keep a 20+ stacks of might on the pet.. While Axe seems an easy solution im not quite satisfied from the might stacking when im hitting ONE target.. For the new Rapid Fire x10 fast attacks is great for a trait as Companions might.. Rapid Fire, Hunters Call and companions might are great for stacking might. You can start the fight with already a lot of mights instead of waiting for some Axe auto attacks .. Auto attack will just keep em high. Also i like the utility that Longbow provides.. Stealth (3 sec of stealth means 402×3=1206hp), knockback, aoe Cripple and swiftness to the pet
Anyway ive tried a lot lately and i found it very strong.. Thoughts and opinions are welcome
This is a build that i like to hear some thoughts about it..
Even tho it has almost no cond removal i m trying to combine some offensive and supportive style of play. Soft cc, healing aoe on allies, cond dmg, might for you and your pet and burst from birds is some of the highlights.. Signets might is shared with pet by deafult without the need of any traiting. Any thoughts?
I’m a S/D thief so much harder to fight a 1v1 a ranger now.
We are deeply sorry our king for making you have such a hard time fighting disgusting rangers. It is widely known that thieves SHOULD easily kill any ranger at all. That goes also to every class out there. We made a mistake by making rangers able to kill you.
@Resjudicator
Saying that longbow power ranger doesnt require good positioning shows how little you know about longbow power rangers gameplay. There are some rangers that were trying to push that build into the meta before the 9/9 patch. The 1500 range means nothing for every class exept necros and guardian, dont overestimate it. Learn what a longbow does and you will be more ready to counter it. Most ppl dont know and they are confused
Here we go again. Another delusional and ignorant poor warrior. Nothing you said is objective and close to the truth. Warriors still have very strong elements to be placed on the top tier of spvp and power Rangers many weakness. Any top player knows how to deal with a power Ranger. You should learn too instead of calling things you dont understand
Longbow power ranger will defently lack of condi removal. The question will be will the dmg be enough? Cause if its not Ranger will still use high toughness and Empathetic bond builds.
Negate the condi dmg with big healing. Care for poison. High might on pet and on the Ranger too. The idea is for condi pressure AND burst from pets F2 skills. I know that high investment on pets seems a waste since we all know that pets suffer from terrain anomalies and moving targets. Still i believe ( i dont know, i must try it ) thats those pets F2 can hit reliably. Its just an idea and i want to hear some opinions about it.
I will try a similar build.only that i will drop SotW for SoS and EB for Bark Skin..i think that HS and lyssa would be enough cond removal and since you will take so little physical dmg
Nice build. It’s nice to see Skirmishing being taken for things other than bow skill reduction and traps. I’ll queue up later and try this out.
Any feeling on how well Strider’s Defense is working out? I love locking down with Moment of Clarity so I’m trying to weigh one trait versus another.
Evade on autoattack and 15% to block a range attacks is killer combination..Dont expect to go in recklessly and survive everything..But it surely helps you from dropping instantly
Ive done some testing and the block from the Striders Defense doesnt provide 1sec of burning with the Rune of the Guardian..
Moment of Clarity is still a good choice..Although its a offensive choice…Striders Defense is more reliable if you want to stay more into the teamfights and cleave
So far this works fine for me..
Into teamfights if i pop QZ with Greatsword i can survive a lot while doing a lot of cleave dmg
The evades are a lot and the endurance regen pretty fast.
Cond removal is fine as long as you pay attention on what you remove.
You can lock your target since you have access to many immob sources..
Great numbers ( 4-5k mauls, 1-1,2k autoattacks )
Great mobility
Perma fury
The cons now..
0 team support..Spirit of nature is still the best choice for spvp
No ranged option, full meele
You need your CD on your survival skills to win the fights
It may have more cons but its too soon to tell..Till now worked fine and gave me a lot of fun..Try it and tell me your thoughts
