Guild Wars 2

Healing skills my kitten…
We dont need new healing skills, we need new devs..
Terrible job imo.

Sorry but just my opinion….Boring…Ive seen enough Spirit Rangers and Hambow.

Boring

Im afraid that saying that the new heal is weak and Healing spring is better its gonna end up with Anet nerfing the Healing Spring..Mark my words, they allready did a minor nerf

Just like the did with the SB, “to force us use the LB”..And ofc they succed……not

After a lot of spamming in twitch chat..JPeters was writing there too..I asked: “Why Rangers should take 20 traits to make their healing skill effective?”

JPeters answer was: “Normal Spirits rule” or something like this..

Its true that the skills balance team believes that there is a man in this world who play spirits without traiting em……………

/facepalm

Guys leave it as it is..They just dont give a kitten..They have no idea what they are doing.In the end is a job and they are really bad at it, they took a game with great potentials and they ruining it little by little..
Am i wrong?Time will tell only

faeral.7120:

1. adding a heal that only interacts with the current meta build does not help build diversity.

2. adding another piece of AI clutter is indicative of not listening to your players.

Ive been screaming these things since i learned about this new skill….Noone cares

We got to a point that we wish Rangers get weak skills cause otherwise will destroy pvp…

Nice clap clap clap

The healing skill is a good proof that they actually dont spent much time on Rangers..“Lets just put another spirit cause you know, we must show something”

I know its crappy i dont know why they put so little work on Ranger?

In stream was like " Look this amazing skill that we added on Guardians, let me test it like 100 times..See aint awesome?" " Check this healing on thief with another amulet"

and a boring voice " Y Ranger..yea..Go Ranger..spirit heal..Great you know..Y.. its super..Actually you need 20 points to make it follow you..Y..otherwise you will probably be out of range..actually see..you hitted like 20 hits..to heal you for 800hp..Aint great?..Lets move now to the interesting heals.."

Plz someone with some logic plz explain me this..
Why after all this talk that had been made about Spirit Rangers Anet thought that adding another spirit is the way to go?

Didnt we show up the problems that Spirit Rangers had?
Didnt we explain constructively that the petting zoo isnt a good thing for the pvp community?
Didnt we asked for more active playstyle?

I seriously need to know what is on Anets mind?

How they thought that this will help Rangers and the pvp meta at all?
Plz tell me that you thought a use of it out of the standar Spirit Build…

Its on 10 sec cd actually..Every spirit so far has a 10 sec, im pretty sure they mention it……
And yes..

Its totally worthless unless you play spirit Ranger

Master of Timespace.2548:

Another self-entitled “pro” defending his silly face roll class. Nothing new to see here.

^^ this
I like those guys..Spirit Rangers are easy to play….Y so its Hambow Warrior..No its not cause you have to press F1 to remove 3 cond, its active you noob, Rangers are so passive..Like its sooooo hard to press F1 or Q to make you immune to conditions…or X to remove every cond and give you every buff (thats my keybind)

They are, but the 90% of the current mate builds are easy and passive..

I can play Hambow Warrior pretty decent even tho i have like 100 matches on him..
I can play phantasm Mesmer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
I can play MM Necro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
I can play S/D thief >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Imagine a combo: signet of vampirism active with thiefs heal-venom share….

ronpierce.2760:

I think people need to really hold off crying about this spirit heal. Reason being; I don’t think anyone except nubs will use it. Healing spring is way better solo and team play, and if you have finishers you can self combo in the water field. Water Spirit heals like 650 every 10 seconds? That’s terrible. The on USE is also pretty meh.

I agree..It may be weak….So why is Ranger getting a weak spirit heal?Why not something to improve power builds?
A signet heal with an active cond removal for example..
All Rangers need to move to more power builds is reliable active removal..the need of empathetic bond and now the need of spirits to bring support its overshadowing every other build that it may be more fun…

You know, every top Ranger, every Ranger that is a little above average hates spirits cause they are no fun…

We are bored with builds that can be put on autopilot, the skillfloor is too low…

In soloq against not skilled players literally i can eat souvlaki with bare hands and def homepoint at the same time…

I dont think that it requires so much of a balancing skills to know that “no more spirits”
-_-

They are just want us to leave pvp..they spent a lot of money in living story, this is what we should do…

Its has no effect…

Cause when they made the trait and the signets they forgot to check this out…And just left it this way till today

After the 15:25 the pvp talk starts and i personally liked the 38:30 discussion..

http://youtu.be/YW_bBUzcGBM

I dont if its forbiden to post it or not..If it is, you can delete it

But i found this part of the video very interesting and i want to share it with you.

I didnt like the answers Blu gave tho, it seems that he loves this game to much that he is not being objective..

He keeps saying the “community is growing”..

No its not..

Just cause you see a little more ppl online doesnt mean that the “community is getting bigger”..Actually the community is losing dedicated players so its getting smaller…A few pvers that came to try some pvp isnt a growing thing…

I want to ask if the new healing of Rangers is a spirit why?
Why they though that after the “petting zoo” issue is good for the pvp to add another spirit?

All i have to say is that if in the meta after the dec 10 Rangers are still playing settlers-carrion spirit build im gonna quit for good..

I know, noone cares.Also i dont want it..

I dont understand tho why Anet doesnt want their game to win..Why are they trying so hard to make it fail…..?

We asked them over and over again to swift Rangers from spirit builds for so many reasons…Cause they are not fun, cause they fill your screen, cause it has low skillfloor, etc etc
And the answer to this is more spirits?
More spirits?

I hope they have something in mind cause this makes no sense at all….

I have some info about the patch after the dec 10….

We thought that Rangers need more build variety..So we changed every weapons skills with a new spirit…The spirits will attack instead of you so you wont have to push that annoying 1111111…
Standing on a point never been more fun

The new spirit Ranger will be totally undying….Mark my words……All you have to do is just stand and autoattack…..
Really nothing more…..

Imagine this….
A settlers amulet spirit Ranger,has all the previous defensive abilities but also regen 100% uptime and passive spirit healing skill that heals you for like 600hp every 10 sec…

Clap clap clap clap

So i geuss its true…

Another Spirit….

Rangers after all this petting zoo discussion……..After so many months of spirits dominating……

the solution, the answer, the reward was………..

MORE SPIRITS

As a Ranger i have a lot of access to regen boon..We can keep it 100% uptime with Natures voice and Guard shout..
I have also tried some regen builds and after testing i found out that Regen is not a boon to count on it….
It has many counters…

Burst dmg
Poison
Boon strip
Boon corrupt

Its a “helpfull” boon, it wont make you immortal at all…You must combine it with other heal sources to be effective…
As a stand alone boon is weak

I think that are false…These are not the healing skills they gonna add…..
Come on guys….We talked about spirits a lot and we all agreed that the petting zoo makes GW2 unwatchable..
Theres no way that Anet devs are so bad that they gonna ignore everyone and add another one…

Its totally like kittening in our face….

Lets all hope leaked notes are false..
Its so bad to be true, i dont believe that Anet would do such a thing..
I mean its spirits guys, noone would thought of adding another one..We are more than fine with 4..

The pick up this is kinda annoying and hard to handle…In a spvp enviroment where your screen oftenly fills with colors, big explosions and AI creatures its very hard to say “hey my pig dropped something, go pick it up guys”.

Great dmg
Still long casting time, easily dodgable and pretty much worthless without it..

Rangers Longbow..
1500 range, you may not see the number you will see from a Warriors killshot but a lot more options..
AoE at 1500 range and autohits hit for 2-3k with 1sec attack rating

I think they mentioned that they will also add new healing skills at dec 10…Cross finger for active cond removal skill (doubt cause we suppose to have HS for that but a man can dream)..
I would like to see a teleport like healing skill too..
You teleport 900 range and you will aoe in the end of it

Well ive been playing Ranger in spvp since the beggining…
Sure the new rewards made me happy but do you know what will make me really really happy?

Build diversity and rework on the current conquest game mode..

Really nice, im really exited about the upcoming changes..Seem right to me.
I would like to suggest adding skill skins too..
As long as they dont have huge impact at my screen.I would like to see certain skills have some awesome animations..

Imagine Rangers Greatsword instead of a Bear for Maul, a Santa Claus appear for limited Christmas period..

Come on, i need to go to sleep soon… :P

I really hope that there would be no delay tho..

Locuz.2651:

Guess im not the only one who is looking forward to reading this.

And to all the bitter people. Be happy that Arenanet is trying to make something happen (even if its babysteps at a time). You could be playing wow where 75% of the 3v3 teams at the top are warriors….with no fixes incoming untill far in to 2014 / the new expansion.

This^^
I dont know if wow is the way you say it is..But we should encourage Anet for taking time to do things like this.
Mistakes happened and will always happen..
Why not keep a constructive attitude?

We need more hugging to make GW2 an legit esport..
I would love to see Denial Esports win the finals and Helseth hug Vanish..

This is esport material…

Ye, kinda is dead right now..

But wait we have the ELS tournaments every week with 300 viewers, 100-500 matches and a lot of gems…..

LOL

Still meta is spammy and horrible, still a lot of 4v5, still no real competition..

Also teamplates..Ive heard that they were priority too (from Evan Leash i think)

Are there any plans to change some of the “noone use it” in spvp?
I think i heard a long time ago a dev saying that changes will come soon..
I also heard that they wanted to reduce the numbers and make em more strong (sounds a good idea)

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43436274.jpg

I am at 61%..
sign im never gonna be at the top 1000 again..

For 1 year, all i see in spvp is potential..1 step forward 2 steps backwards.

I mean i had some fun but the most of my gaming time in this game was waiting…

Its not a condi meta..Thieves-Mesmers-Ele-Warriors, all go power dmg..

Some classes dont have many options in survivability with Power builds (Rangers-Engi-Necros) so they kinda need the extra toughness from amulets..Or their power builds arent effective enough.

So if you are playing some of these classes you feel like there is a cond meta..

I play Ranger for example and im using cond builds for a long time now..

BLUna.7928:

I personally feel it will, but it’s not going to happen overnight. I obviously have a bit of a biased opinion when it comes to this subject as a shoutcaster, but I personally feel we have made huge strides since launch. If you guys remember about a year ago it wasn’t even possible for us to have player organized tournaments and now we are having 2-3 per week. We’ve had hiccups over the past few months, but I feel we have started to recover tremendously:

• Balance is headed in a good direction (in my own opinion at least)
• New teams are showing up weekly
• We had about 1500 viewers for a 2v2 tournament!
• There are two or more tournaments every week

We have great competitive scene starting to brew, and I know there is a lot more in the works for the coming months that you guys should definitely be getting excited for. If you guys really want to see this game go #esports, all I can ask is that you guys support these tournaments. Bigger viewership numbers will allow us to rocket the scene to new heights, and we need the entire community to help with it. As I said, it isnt going to happen in one night or even one month from now, but I personally feel that we as a community can take this game to a level where we can see it at Dreamhack, MLG Pro Circuit, and other huge events. The only thing limiting it is time and how far the community wants to see it go.

:)

Well im really sad..I thought it still go on and i just miss it.

Seriously all hear for the past 6 months for pvp is bad news..That guy left, that team quit, the channel closed, less and less tournaments..

All i can do is be sad :/

Excuse me but i have a long time to watch something on twitch.tv..But i went to GW2 channel a few times so far and i havent seen any GW2pvpTV.

Is there any pvp streamer still streaming?

A lot of talk has been made about the skill/reward, passive play, etc..Things that are kinda passive and very rewarding.
I dont think that this is the real problem..
There are many games with more passive things going on but still the skilled players shine out.
Im gonna use the example of LoL and moba games..
There are a lot more passive skills that are very effective.But, But, But..there is also farming and gearing progress…
In GW2 is like you take a full lvl – full gear hero..If you had a full gear Tristana and the other dude had a full gear Support, no matter what the support would do, no matter how skilled it would be the Tristana would autohit him to death..

Thats what they need to add in GW2.
Progress during match so the skilled players could outshine and carry the games..
Not in another map.In every map rework the system..

Just my opinion, i may be wrong, maybe its better the way it is now..

Acandis.3250:

No.

The ship sailed a long time ago; the PvP system had great potential but the staff ignored top tier players (even those in core) for far too long and just released bad balance patch after bad balance patch as they saw fit.

Little by little, top teams started leaving, and soon there were no more than 3 good teams by the time they decided to start throwing money into tournaments. By that time, they had messed up the meta so hard that the rest of the top teams left.

I still think the game has great potential, but I think that’s where its going to stay. It will take them approx. 2 years after release to have a workable competitive system, and by then there will be other games of the same genre that a) listen to their players, b) have a competitive system from the start, c) release balance patches in a timely manner.

I’m ok with this game not being esports, though; it’s fun to play for now.

Actually this ^

There was a time, few months before pax that balance was actually pretty good. Warriors were a little underpower but not totally weak..There were a lot of competitive teams and pretty much a lot of stuff going on….
I believe that the downfall started at the dhuumfire patch..They made huge mistakes in that patch..

we said it like a thousand times..Anet disagrees.Move on

Indoles.1467:

Ranger is stronger than it was, but so is just about every other profession. Ranger is still towards the bottom of the list in terms of effectiveness when it comes to any content.

Y like pvp where no top team has any Ranger..

Mladi Bojevnik.2517:

Leaderboards are not accurate at the moment. It will take some time for them to acctualy show accurate ratings.

Like 4-5 years..

Well if you combine it with runes of sanctuary, RaO and with the upcoming change in Enlargement you get a great amount of stability..Still i dont think it will be the new meta build.We will see tho