Guild Wars 2

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sorry Nocturnal Lunacy for want giving up and quit. No challenge.. is fault. No training hard, just easy win with no trying. Use condition and others only is easy way; short cut to championship, need fix asap. Nocturnal Lunancy want other class to experience pain and lose and try harder. Challenge is no exception, Challenge is no short cut, Challenge is no win with no pain. —-No pain, no gain-—- All class suffer lose and try different way to win; No same, same, same way over.

Why other class have no pain? have no experience of losing sometime? of no experience of trying hard?

Nocturnal Lunancy, Thank You! for take pain for long, Thank You! for trying harder, Thank You! for want challenge. Thank You! for care for wvw concern. Arena net might want make wvw change to challenge soon.
sorry for English second language.

Zero Day.2594:

Yes yes Jim feed the troll. I think he already contradicted himself once. Something to do with trying harder and challenge, though I skimmed through his post.

Challenge is no win with easy, Challenge is win and lose and try harder. Stealth is no challenge for no try harder, just stealth, stealth, stealth. Other player want challenge but no find stealth player. Thief hiding always, is that challenge? if all thief; only hide.. is ok for wvw and pvp long term? I ask you fight and you thief run and hide, is ok?

no troll

oxtred.7658:

You speak like a khaajit, do you know that?

sorry, English my second language

Jim Hunter.6821:

DarkSyze.8627:

Jim Hunter.6821:

DarkSyze.8627:

What is important is thief is problem in wvw. No class perfect but thief is perfect and is not fair for challenge in wvw. Challenge is have strength and weakness; not only strength. Challenge is have little weakness because of not perfect so stealth, stealth, run, stealth make thief strong for no challenge. Challenge help make try harder and learn weakness and try hard again. No challenge make give up and quit. Thief no try harder than other class; just stealth, stealth, run, have strength and hide and kill; no try; easy win.

Why make other class try hard for no reason? Why make other class train hard for no reason? Other class no want to give up, only want result from hard training. Pvp is good place to train and to take training to wvw and challenge players; No to hide, hide, run, hide. If just want hide, why play wvw? If want to hide, you can do log out. No training, No strength! No challenge, No win!

I want encourage arena net to try make wvw challenge not to easy win with perfect class with easy strength and stealth, run and condition only; exception necromancer condition class only. Wvw purpose is challenge, Wvw purpose is fight. please fix.

sorry English my second language

Every time you post you make some outrageous demand like they need to remove all conditions, cc, stealth, etc.
I’ve tried to remain helpful because you are obviously new but you are making it very hard not to make fun of you.

Please, before calling for nerfs to anything, take the time to play the build/profession that is giving you trouble so that you understand it’s weeknesses. Odds are after playing it for a few weeks you will have learned how to fight it and no longer think it is OP.

Weakness is challenge, that is why train harder; lose and try harder. Stealth make hide while other class want fight; no ok to other class. Stealth make thief no lose and have strength with no training harder; easy win is no challenge with other class. I no want thief to no have stealth but stealth only with have strength with no training; no losing. only easy win.. is problem to challenge; opinion. Training hard and lose and try harder, is Win and Challenge. No with stealth, condition and run; easy win. That all.

If you are unwilling to learn the class then prepare to keep dying to it. I don’t main a thief, it’s probably competing with ele for my least played profession, I built one and leveled him in WvW because I was having trouble fighting them and now if I run across a solo thief I see him as a free bag.

Your decision to remain ignorant is making you a worse player and you have no room to complain. This is the definition of learn to play.

No complain, I want learn…no challenge and only hiding is no learn.
—If no see sky, no learn from stars, sun, cloud, rainbow—.

Jim Hunter.6821:

DarkSyze.8627:

What is important is thief is problem in wvw. No class perfect but thief is perfect and is not fair for challenge in wvw. Challenge is have strength and weakness; not only strength. Challenge is have little weakness because of not perfect so stealth, stealth, run, stealth make thief strong for no challenge. Challenge help make try harder and learn weakness and try hard again. No challenge make give up and quit. Thief no try harder than other class; just stealth, stealth, run, have strength and hide and kill; no try; easy win.

Why make other class try hard for no reason? Why make other class train hard for no reason? Other class no want to give up, only want result from hard training. Pvp is good place to train and to take training to wvw and challenge players; No to hide, hide, run, hide. If just want hide, why play wvw? If want to hide, you can do log out. No training, No strength! No challenge, No win!

I want encourage arena net to try make wvw challenge not to easy win with perfect class with easy strength and stealth, run and condition only; exception necromancer condition class only. Wvw purpose is challenge, Wvw purpose is fight. please fix.

sorry English my second language

Every time you post you make some outrageous demand like they need to remove all conditions, cc, stealth, etc.
I’ve tried to remain helpful because you are obviously new but you are making it very hard not to make fun of you.

Please, before calling for nerfs to anything, take the time to play the build/profession that is giving you trouble so that you understand it’s weeknesses. Odds are after playing it for a few weeks you will have learned how to fight it and no longer think it is OP.

Weakness is challenge, that is why train harder; lose and try harder. Stealth make hide while other class want fight; no ok to other class. Stealth make thief no lose and have strength with no training harder; easy win is no challenge with other class. I no want thief to no have stealth but stealth only with have strength with no training; no losing. only easy win.. is problem to challenge; opinion. Training hard and lose and try harder, is Win and Challenge. No with stealth, condition and run; easy win. That all

What is important is thief is problem in wvw. No class perfect but thief is perfect and is not fair for challenge in wvw. Challenge is have strength and weakness; not only strength. Challenge is have little weakness because of not perfect so stealth, stealth, run, stealth make thief strong for no challenge. Challenge help make try harder and learn weakness and try hard again. No challenge make give up and quit. Thief no try harder than other class; just stealth, stealth, run, have strength and hide and easy kill; no try; easy win.

Pvp is good place to train and to take training in wvw and challenge players in wvw, no to hide, hide, run, hide. If just want hide, why play wvw? If want to hide, you can do log out.

Why make other class try hard for no reason? Why make other class train hard for no reason? Other class no want to give up, only want result from training hard. No to win, win only but to lose and try harder with challenge.

I want encourage arena net to try make wvw challenge not to easy win with perfect class with easy strength and stealth, run and condition only; exception necromancer condition class only. Wvw purpose is challenge, Wvw purpose is fight. please fix.

suggestion; No training, No strength! No challenge, No win!

sorry English my second language

Condition need fix in wvw. Why condition more important than skill? Why condition more important than challenge? I no understand why is it? Challenge is good; good fight, hard fight, long fight, learn fight and learn lose; try harder training. Challenge and Skill is important because from training hard and get better.. Not condition! from no training; only condition use. Wvw is good place challenge; good fight, show hard training. Not condition only: cheat, easy fight, win easy. Need fix that.

1. Suggestion; ban all condition with food exception necromancer; condition only class.
2. Suggestion; Condition 1 stack only… die.. no condition.. exception necromancer condition only class.

sorry English second language.

Thank You! for advice. A guild accept me yesterday and i having a lot fun. They have many thief to keep me alive and warrior, guardian. They save me many and it is nice to have guild to care for me. When i 80 level, they will take me pvp to teach me more to not die easy and be strong. They laugh and say i should afraid of thief more; stealth too easy kill, cheat. Already bad experience with stealth.

I appreciate all suggestion advice again.

Jim Hunter.6821:

I’m guessing what you are talking about is a thief using c&d as soon as he came out of stealth so he wasn’t visible long enough to lock him down and kill him.
If that’s the case someone in your group should have just layed down a stealth trap and then y’all could have had a good laugh.

Thank You! with the suggestion and some of the players from yesterday agree with you of what had happened. I shared this with 3 of my server Commanders and they advice me to not waste my time buying a stealth discruptor trap http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stealth_Disruptor_Trap because a smart thief will just run and teleport and wait until it end and re engage in stealth again.

So they advice me not to engage a thief in stealth without being in a group-zerg.

So the only way to kill a thief who stealth too much is with a group-zerg; even if it takes 2-5 minutes.

(i wish thief stealth last long like the stealth disruptor trap; 30 seconds)

Fun or no fun, challenge or no challenge, i’m ok with that i guess… for now.

suggestion; thief only have 30 seconds to stealth for each log in wvw.

Hello, new player in wvw, after being encourage and taking good advice from other players. I like wvw alot and enjoy my first experience with fighting with other players with the party. I don’t like to complain but i like to share my experience and take suggestion. Something happened yesterday which make me not happy and make it not fun. There was a thief in our supply camp who stop us from taking it back. The Thief keep stealth over and over again. After 5 minutes, we found thief and killed it.. What the players said, the thief rotate stealth around the supply camp.

It was fun looking for the thief because i like challenge but after more than 2-5 minutes, it didn’t at all. I don’t think that is fair because wvw should be about fun and good challenge… not to keep hiding for long time and prevent players from take camp.

2 questions— Is there any way to stop a thief from stealth too much like 2-5 minutes? Is there a way to force thief to fight, instead of run, stealth, run, stealth?

Any suggestion will help from thief players who stealth too much.

sorry english my second language.

I’m liking the roles of the Guardian class .. so I will now chose Guardian as the challenging class of the rest and as my class of choice. (not saying Guardian class is Perfect but i admire their design and their devotion as Protectors and Defenders.. " Guardians specialize in protective and defensive magic. A deep sense of loyalty to their allies fuels their passion and power" http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guardian) ]

I will delete the other classes. Thanks for your advice as well .

see you in wvw soon..

I’m a new player looking into getting to wvw as soon i level but i’m scared of entering it. The wvw in youtube is what scares me; where instant kills by some classes are everywhere. Stealth, burst, shatter and condition are all i see. Too much of it is what scares me the most.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t be there but it’s just way too much especially if it is not challenging to the other player. Mostly to new player like me who would like a longer fight.

I am enjoying the game a lot especially the leveling experience when unlocking skills, traits etc… at certain level. I feel arenanet is doing a good job at putting challenge elements in lower level experience.

What excites me is preparing my training in lower level for tougher challenge against other players in a larger scale-wvw.

I feel wvw is not challenging at all; it just too much; it takes the fun out and put scares players, especially i think new players as well.

I applaud arenenet for doing a good job in putting challenge in lower level experience and hope they do the same for wvw.

I believe wvw should be about putting out your hard training from lower level to the test but not having too much damage for no reason at all.

What is the point of going through hard training and only to find out you already won,,, with a simple 1-3 hits?

Again, i’m not saying wvw should be easy but make it so that you earned it..

My suggestion for fix- reduce all food buffs by 50% and reduce all instant damage kills by 50%-70%. (I know arenanet can do better but it’s just my suggestion.

Other than that, that’s all i have to say.

sorry English is my second language