Guild Wars 2

Gotta be kidding me. That’s the worst part of the specialization.

Solitaire.3680:

DarksunG.9537:

Curae.1837:

rapthorne.7345:

I’d get it if it wasn’t for the complete lack of front torso covering for males.

Showing off some abs is one thing, completely leaving out a panel of material just looks kitten y.

Female characters, as usual, get the best deal

I’m just… god I hope this is sarcasm.
looks at the boobwindows, exposed belly’s and legs for a lot of female armor
Right.

Either way I don’t have much to say on the armor/outfit thing. Not my taste though I like that it’s more equal for female and male characters in showing skin.

Nah, the Male armor like Gladiator show more skin. I don’t mind showing skin on the males if it’s cool. It’s not about this self-righteous whining about “equality”, it’s about what looks good. Conan the barbarian looks awesome & he wears less than any woman in GW. Boob windows look good. That’s why lots of outfits have cleavage for women & for the guys they just remove the entire top. looks better. This guy just looks like an idiot.

It’s a matter of opinion.. the new outfit suits more of a light armor class and the gladiator/conan look is better for heavy sets. I think the new outfits would look awesome on a mesmer male for example. But gladiators (if they could wear it) would look wrong

Yeah, but there are ways to accentuate the inherent features of men/women that generally match the biological make up of the 2. That’s why cleavage works on a female & on a male it just looks like a random hole. Also, Date is wearing cloth & his setup is good. So do the Castanics. The Castanics are sexy, yet masculine, & the gear works. This just looks like a dude wearing clothes that were designed for someone else entirely.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

“Awful, this is objectifying! It’s dehumanizing. We are not pieces of meat. Everyone happy with this is basically encouraging institutionalised sexism! Hur hur hur!”

-every thread on female skimpy armor.

Also why the hell is this an outfit? It really looks like armor and it should be armor.

Haha, don’t you understand the double-standard of feminism?

At any rate this outfit looks hilarious. There are ways to do the bare chest & make it look good(Dant, Tera, Conan). This is not one. Works good as a joke though, we’ll see a lot of clowns out there!

Curae.1837:

rapthorne.7345:

I’d get it if it wasn’t for the complete lack of front torso covering for males.

Showing off some abs is one thing, completely leaving out a panel of material just looks kitten y.

Female characters, as usual, get the best deal

I’m just… god I hope this is sarcasm.
looks at the boobwindows, exposed belly’s and legs for a lot of female armor
Right.

Either way I don’t have much to say on the armor/outfit thing. Not my taste though I like that it’s more equal for female and male characters in showing skin.

Nah, the Male armor like Gladiator show more skin. I don’t mind showing skin on the males if it’s cool. It’s not about this self-righteous whining about “equality”, it’s about what looks good. Conan the barbarian looks awesome & he wears less than any woman in GW. Boob windows look good. That’s why lots of outfits have cleavage for women & for the guys they just remove the entire top. looks better. This guy just looks like an idiot.

Agreed. There were still plenty of lame traits Anet left in. Anet, if you’r going to remove options. all the remaining ones need to be stellar. You’ve left a lot of chaff. Fall dmg needs to be merged.

Zaklex.6308:

You’ve heard of carpet bombing I presume?

Carpet Bombing isn’t attacking a “general area”. it’s bombing all of a designated area. That requires planning & specificity. You don’t just go into a grid square & shoot anywhere in it, you have to cover the whole area. & specifically in WWII it wasn’t really done to hit an enemy target. It was done against civilian population to force surrender.

It’s just a game. it’s not like real warfare. Please stop trying to say it is.

lordkrall.7241:

DocZed.6973:

I face-palmed when Trahearne just started barraging an otherwise silent forest.
Like, did he even see anything vital to hit or is he just suspicious of all trees now?

That is how warfare works though.
You have a general target. You hit general target with bombs.
Just look at some pictures how London and Berlin looked by the end of WWII.

Not to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

London & Hiroshima/Nagasaki were not “general targets”. They were large targets. The purpose was to cause damage over a large area. & even when you do that that you don’t want to bomb in a “general” area or you may end up bombing the same place many times which is a waste. In fact, bombing London required lots of precision since they wanted to do damage over a large area with many individual bombs. Nuking an area requires you to target the center of that area. In either case there is nothing general about it. When you’re targeting a thing you hit the thing . Especially when the primary Pact anti-dragon weapon is poisoned magic. shooing the ground with it is a pointless waste. & while it’s true you can often “soften” an enemy with shell fire, it’s not “general”. You do the best you can to accurately target something. Even if it’s like on Normandy when some of the shelling was literally to create trenches. But if you make them in the wrong place they’re useless.

Anyone worth his weight in charge of bombing a target will have someone fly over and checking to make sure there is a target, then making sure the target was hit afterward. It’s an extremely dangerous job. But especially in a jungle area, you don’t randomly fire at trees.

The short answer is: it’s just a game. But don’t act like it’s just how warfare is.

Nilgoow.1037:

check your privilege thanks

Check you professional victim-hood, thanks.

Nilgoow.1037:

Nilgoow.1037:

check your privilege thanks

Vomits

yeah, pretty much.

Is this the real life? Is this just tumblr?

Unfortunately the line is blurring. People really are changing society by grabbing the moral high ground for their own benefit by “being offended”.

Have to admit, Hitches made a great point when he said: "I’m very depressed how in this country you can be told “That’s offensive” as though those two words constitute an argument."

Exxcalibur.6203:

Feedback was invited.

Gushing sycophancy isn’t feedback.

True. & you’d never hear Anet saying “don’t judge the game off this stress test” to someone who says they enjoyed every last bit of the experience.

Also, feedback when the story & game are complete is feedback that cannot change the completed story & game.

They said legends not Trolls. The only thing they should continue doing in regards to Scarlet is apologizing.

I can’t grasp why Anet has waited YEARS to do things people have been asking from day one, yet spent years making terrible stories about some of the worst characters in the series.

The term “abuse” is, ironically, being abused a lot nowadays.

Report, block, move on.

Will there be a significant number of new faces & hair options?

Will there be new visual customization options? (scars, beards, medals, etc)

I wish… It’s a little odd they picked Mallyx though.

Arewn.2368:

First and foremost, I have to get this off my chest: no new race is really not a big deal. It’s one of the most hallow things they can possible add.

Maybe to you. I would have rather had a new race than all of S2 of the LS. To me, it makes all the existing content fun again. The lack of the new race is a major fail.

But to be sure, the expansion does feel kind of small. Only having maguuma map additions is worrying, but the addition of only a single new weapon for the classes is pretty anemic.

I wonder if ti took this long because they made a backlog so that they could have an expansion once a year.

Dude.. GW2 is one giant retconn. From the Gods to the dragons to the mists.

Eolirin.1830:

If I recall correctly ArenaNet devs have straight up said there was no coherent plan until Nightfall. Nightfall’s story was written by Jeff Grubb who wasn’t with the company until then, and I believe he was also responsible for fleshing out the world into something coherent and with a developed history.

yup. Which makes me wonder why he didn’t do the story for GW2. including the LS, which is just… not good.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

. . . what happened here is a case of “we got what we asked for”. We asked for more focus on the dragons we were supposed to be fighting after LS1 wrapped. Maybe even a bit before when people were highly bored with “Scarlet did it”. Guess whaaaaaaat? Now we got Mordremoth going out and being active.

It’s more about whether the big bad in the background sucks or not. Adabbon was a cool, mysterious manipulative force bent on revenge using subtlety with a personal history. He was probably the only retcon in all of GW that worked correctly. Scarlet was arguably the most annoying writers-pet character in all of Guild Wars. There was no reason for her to have an annoying personality, stupid dialog & be so stupidly & impossibly overpowered. She would have been much more interesting as a mature, manipulative plan-maker in the background doing small things to cause forces to fight one another & accidentally cause the events instead of spouting stupid token “oh she’s crazy!” one-liners & try be cool & sassy. The Dragons.. well.. they are just boring.. better than Scarlet by far since they aren’t irritating but they are boring. I’d prefer they be more of a Cthulian force with mystery & horror, but they are kinda generic “it’s all the cycle” no-personality forces.

The Sylvari may have been written to be minions all along, but as the lore forum had found years ago there are holes all over it. All I know is I am supremely sick of hearing about Sylvari & now we have a whole kitten ed expansion about them. I can’t think of 1 single thing they could have done to ruin an expansion other than that.

Tom Gore.4035:

Jaymee.1560:

Does… this also mean that you deleted your Sylvari toons, cheeseball?

Who has Sylvari characters anyway? I mean, they are by far the ugliest race in the game. And my opinion obviously is the only correct one

well they are the 2nd least played race in the game… They wouldn’t make a whole expansion about them unless they had a fetish… Oh.. yeah.

I think you might be like…a year & a half late to make class suggestions. With how they’ve been working it’s certainly not going to make an impact on upcoming content.

Jzaku.9765:

P.S. Braham’s sanctuary bubble does basically nothing, make him put a protection symbol instead or something

P.P.S. Kasmeer’s infinite time warp is so OP

what a surprise.

Yeah & unfortunately the trailer is 90% Sylvari fan-fic & 2% cool stuff (Mursaat & Rytlock)

Neo.4307:

Pick up a bucket then because it looks like we’re sticking to that for a while. :P.

Imma just use the ones I’ve been using every time Kasory has “dialog”.

If the first expansion is going to be about Sylvari I’m gonna puke.

Unloveableone.6082:

For anyone that isn’t able to see it, etc

Spoiler warning as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2MVby1Wj0

More focus on Sylvari? That’s a Spoiler?

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

I agree. The Silverwastes may be (right now anyway) half the size of Kessex Hills, but there is a hell of a lot more going on in them. I have spent so many hours in the Silverwastes and every time I think I’m about to get bored, something completely new is added.

I can guarantee there are many events you’ve never seen in the normal game world. Seeing a new event doesn’t suddenly make Silverwastes more dense. Even if the content were double in terms of density (which it’s not) it would take 20+ years to make the original game. You people need to stop pretending so blatantly that everything is the same in quality & quantity right now. There is nothing wrong with liking the new content, but lying about how much there is doesn’t make it true.

Content Wise? It’s about 1/3 of what we got from the 1st 2 years of GW1 with the only increase in quality being the graphics.. So for the most part, yeah.

Story Wise? Absolutely. I barely play because this isn’t Guild Wars anymore. It’s SJ Wars.

Feature Wise? it’s ok.. No new races/classes is a huuuge let down.

CMM.6712:

The Silverwastes is not tiny.

It’s 1/4 the size of a regular zone. How is that not tiny?
If they made the original game at the rate that they are releasing zones in the LS, it would take around 40+ years to complete.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

DarksunG.9537:

Well I was excited about the new narrative director. But look: more Sylvari focus.

It’s far better than asura focus, or miraculous technology from Rata Sum saving the day. I mean, it wasn’t the sole reason we beat the Great Destroyer long ago, but it became the sole reason we stood a chance against Zhaitan. I’m much more upset about that than the sylvari being in the spotlight.

. . . mostly because Mordremoth is a legitimate concern.

Nah. The issue with the Asura is that they are a deus ex. They just fill holes. Usually they are more fun characters. Although Taimi is a supremely annoying Scarlet apologist super-grrl that magically can do more at the age of 5 then entire corporations of Asura that have been working on & developing gate tech for 100s of years. She’s got a similarly lame but toned down “i’m sassy & misunderstood & can do it all” character as Scarlet. But most aren’t annoying characters like that. Well.. in GW1..

But the Sylvari are the annoying “new kids” that Anet is all hot & bothered over & it’s freekin old. Maybe when they bring the Tengu they’ll have a reason to not focus on the Sylvari.

Well I was excited about the new narrative director. But look: more Sylvari focus.

Leah Hoyer.9382:

Hi folks! Now that I’ve settled in a bit at ANet, I wanted to check in again on this thread. The first Living World episode that I was involved in, “Echoes of the Past,” has now been live for a few days. We’ve all been really pleased that people seem to be enjoying the story and content a lot. But I’d love to ask you all for more specifics. What were your favorite narrative moments? What did you like about the content? About the way it was told? And of course, I want to hear what you think we can still do better on.

Thanks in advance to everyone for their comments. I’m very excited to be part of such a great game, and to work with such an excellent team of creative people.

Thank you for bringing some of Guild Wars back to the Guild Wars universe. Thank you for not focusing the story on Kasmeer Marjory & Taimi. Thank you for not shoehorning in scenes trying to convince us Scarlet is cool. Please feel free to leave behind DE2.0 & make characters that actually feel like they belong in the Guild Wars universe & not in a teen squad justice cartoon.

GDI… more Kasory? geez.. Just when I thought we were moving away from the fail that is DE 2.0

Meh.. I can tell you right now the entirety of what Ababbon’s influence will be on the story:

We research him & what he did to help find new ways to fight the dragons. Done.

CureForLiving.5360:

I must say I’m extremely impressed at how well you take all this non-stop and nonconstructive criticism… I’d say sorry for the players… but I can only speak for myself… I think you’re doing a good job though if that helps.

If you’re not joking.. You’re saying some expressing concerns that the story will continue to be bad is “non-stop and nonconstructive criticism”, but mocking them is considered "doing a good job ". Sweet.. just wanted to get that strait.

Palador.2170:

I think they’re going to muck it up and do something stupid with the LS ending.

Well that would be consistent with the entirety of the LS so far, so.. why not!

Palador.2170:

Palador.2170:

I think they’re going to muck it up and do something stupid with the LS ending.

That’s the spirit!

. (-:

Chris

Lets all make fun of Palador instead of the “story”, Woooo!

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I’m saying exactly that, yes.

& you’re saying i’m just trying to overblow things & make a point? woooow. I don’t mind that Logan is a “tool” of the queen. That’s his Job. but to characterize him entirely by just saying “there is nothing to his character except the Queen. He’s just a tool” is disingenuous just to make a point.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

No, most of it is her journey to unleash Abaddon and let him out to have vengeance on the world. Turai tried to Ascend and failed, and his failure is echoed in Prophecies and not Nightfall – he guides the player characters through the steps to Ascend even though he cannot anymore since he died.

Again, you’re demonstrating you have no idea what you’re talking about. Varesh’s entire life was about surpassing her ancestors & unlocking ancient secrets of the crystal desert (which are invariably linked to Abbadon). all of her military training, political savvy & leadership was an obsession, just like Turai. (all this stuff is in the manual) It’s what makes her character work at the start. (whereas you have a wholly unbelievable start for someone like Scarlet “she was born epic & sassy! & got more epic!”) Does she seek out power get manipulated by Abbadon? Yes, that’s the events in nightfall. But the catalyst of her quest is in her ancestry. It’s what makes her cool . You can believe that she’s spent years building up who she is & she doesn’t have bionic trans-dimensional teleporters & a mishmash robot army. Also her voice acting is mature & impressive. But it’s not an exorcize in Abbadon making him self look powerful & right by making Varesh look dumb & weak. He actually favors her with magic & dominion over demons.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Therefore, the gods have genders. The sylvari do not, they merely emulate it.

With Dwayna giving birth I could buy that, but I don’t know if that is just a matter of a god creating life or weather its actual reproduction like the pale tree. & with how much they retconned the God Lore I don’t even know if it’s just another “that’s what the humans thought” deal.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Well, except for Mad King Thorn who got one over on almost everyone. And Tixx. And Captain Magnus. And Canach. And Rytlock. And Forgal.

thank you for making my point. on almost everyone. They didn’t feel the need to have a scene where Kiel says something stupid & selfish specifically to Magnus, then to have him point out how dumb she is & then snarkely tell her to get lost. & then do that like 10 more times peppered around.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Because it wasn’t part of your post I replied to. You pulled it in to change the argument, and since I wasn’t addressing that . . .

it’s exactly what you were addressing. You said your litmus test for equality was “Can a male character do those things as well and not be punished for it?” & I was showing how the game does not stand up to that in many situations. My example of the 2 factions was showing how that it’s extremely a double standard. That attribute is absolutely one of the main things that defines them as evil. If you say “dragon corruption” is the only thing that makes them evil you are completely wrong. Most Sons of Svanir aren’t even corrupted. & the only things they talk about are Jormag & women. If you say that the Svanir hatred of women is not one of their major attributes, I don’t know what to say. you’re just covering your eyes. I mean the story introduces them with Eir telling you: “The Sons of Svanir are close by. We can try talking to them, but they hate anyone who doesn’t serve their dragon…and they utterly despise women.”

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

*Nowhere is it said that is what happened, nor is it implied sexual misconduct was done.
If you’re seeing it there, that’s because you want it to be there. Probably so you can use it as a point in your list rather than come up with something more substantial.

So you require Faren to say “Scarlet sexually assaulted me” for it to be implicit? I don’t think Wooden Potatoes (who likes the story, thought that part was funny & give Anet’s writing WAY more of a pass that many people) had an agenda when he came to the same conclusion. I held off judgement until I saw other people responding the same way. It is was it is.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Anise is the only one who will tell him this because it’s unseemly for the Queen to do it

Except she does. In the same scene. & not only does Anise berate him before that, she does it after purposefully stirring things up by making the watchwork look like Rytlcok. Yeah, that’s normal.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Anything is in her jurisdiction if it is deemed a threat to the crown, and having a Seraph commander who can’t stop being hotheaded is part of it.

yeah, that makes sense, lets have queen(the primary defensive objective of the entire army) be a hologram, & they hero of the human armies, the man that’s fought dragons & single handedly done more than any human in the fight against them be out of the loop. So that everyone in the area is defending the wrong target & all their lives are at risk as they try to do so, & then after words, now that everyone is in chaos because they think the queen is dead, berates him for properly responding to save the queen instead of saying “sorry about the deception guys, but I had to hide her”. The logic is so muddled & ham-fistedly contrived it’s like they forcefully twisted the story around just so they could have that scene. I know what they were trying to do with the “i love the queen” thing. I like that idea. But the whole “you’re an idiot & you suck” “yes she’s right” dialog was shoehorned.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Oh my god. You really don’t understand anything about the difference between turning to your friend and making a joke about their injuries and seeing a stranger and going “oh my god you’re in a wheelchair! that’s hilarious”.

You’re insane if you think that all the ambient npc dialog with women & men is playful ribbing. It’s a lot of: kittenbag guy trying to hit on girl, girl makes snide remark as to how pathetic he is. Or selfish Asura man manipulates poor Quagan girl, strong brave woman tells him to lay down the law! Dumb male guard interrupts female medic to get robotron, women tells him to eat his sword & get lost! Gnashblade is a big meanie business man, uh oh here comes the though female Asura to force him to give away his weapons by order of Kiel! it happens over & over & over in the ambient npc dialog. A handful of times, no biggie, but after a while it’s not just happenstance. It has nothing to do with playful ribbing amongst friends. I know it’s culturally considered more acceptable to have men be the butt of jokes, I can’t help but follow that rule myself, but it’s beyond that.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

What you are implying is it is wrong for a female friend of a male to make fun of them. Ever. Even if there’s no malice. Am I reading you correctly?

You know you’re reading me completely wrong. but that seems to be how you make “arguments”. You _tell_me what im saying even thought you know it’s wrong, then you attack that hyperbole with passive aggressive superiority. but when your definition of equality is based on who you can insult.. well.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

It’s weird how it’s okay if it’s Kiel, not okay if it’s Anise.

Neither is.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

And don’t move the argument to being about the Flame Legion or Sons of Svanir

I’m sorry i’m making too much sense that you have to just toss it out.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Anything you listed in the post I replied to about what travesties of feminism are visited on the poor male characters is, and has been, normally done without consequence.

Passive aggressive hyperbole doesn’t make points.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

1. Since you so happily brought them up, the Sons of Svanir and Flame Legion both do this. Nobody is burning up the forums complaining about that. They also don’t complain about Lord Faren being an ineffectual, womanizing snob either.

Because it’s used to make the guys look evil or dumb, not “right” stronger.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

3. No evidence of this having been done. At all. So this is invented for the sake of making your list more sensationalized.

B.S. Farren talks about how she plays rough & he’s in his underwear. Even Wooden Potatoes laughed about how it was suggested that she did something him. But sure, let’s pretend she played 4 square roughly with him.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

4. Nothing new here, that was happening on the main storyline too, though Logan is a tough topic to tackle. I’ll leave it at this – he’s not nearly as terrible as people make him out to be, much like Koss is not nearly as awesome as people make him out to be.

I don’t know what you’re trying to deflect this to, but I never said I don’t like Logan. I actually do like him. But the whole Queen/Anise “you need to control your temper”thing was laughable. that may have been a matter of a badly constructed plot device, but Anise telling the hero of the human armies to shut up was not only out of her jurisdiction, but stupid.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Sure it does. You’re just not paying attention to the different “shades” of mockery. I know you understand it, since you’re demonstrating it in your post.

Ok, so you can just explain away everything by just saying insults are “shades of mockery”. I can only take so much of the moving goalposts.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Varesh was a tool, in the very literal term of the word. She was nothing but the tool to break Abaddon’s prison open. Hey, look, she did nothing but serve a male character until she died, fancy that.

Umm.. seriously.. You’re talking about a woman who lead her nation with believable military & political savvy to not only repel an attack of an army, but route them, unlock demons to help her, research her ancestors journey, then near the end when she actually gets possessed (making her a victim of manipulation), you saying the whole character is a tool. You have no idea what Varesh’s story is. most of it is her journey to unlock the secrets that Turai failed to. When you actually know what you’re talking about it makes a difference. It’s also funny you say sylvari are not female then say a god is male.. whateves.

I disagree with this being the most important issue to consider.

Great, cuz I never said that.

I think more important is getting the tone of your story consistent and not introducing hooks you don’t plan to use. Case in point: Demmi Beetlestone. (Also another female character whose identity is nothing without her father’s existence.)

here you demonstrate you’ve completely missed my issue. Every character in the game is “nothing without someone else’s existence” that’s how characters are. I don’t care that Mangonel Gearstrip is nothing without Ballista Geargrind, that’s fine it works & he’s funny. My issue is with a concerted effort of the writers to have a suspicious number of women look smarter, stronger, more right by contrasting/pitting them against men that look dumber, weaker, & evil. It’s a theme. it’s not a handful of things. If they portrayed Anise as evil & manipulative, I could understand her talking down to dudes. But he’s portrayed as “Oh yeah, you go girl. She knows!”

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

. . . about half of that is wrong, one of them is added simply to cause a sensation rather than have any basis, and the last one is ignoring the world lore so you can add another bullet point.

No, it’s not. Just saying it is doesn’t make it true. I agree that last one while it’s it’s not, in lore, “owning” someone it’s a way to make the story artificially have a woman who can control a guy & make him look inept. I mean that story so far is constant manipulation. “to find out if he can do what she needs him to”? He accomplished far more the first time we met him, that’s the most laughably conjured up reason ever.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

And your post doesn’t sound like you just have an axe to grind.

just like yours!

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Can a male character do those things as well and not be punished for it? If your answer is ‘yes’ then . . . equality. There we go.

Actually, no. When they do it, it’s considered evil & creates victims. It’s a catalyst for female action in this game. I mean they have 2 entire factions where one of the main representations of their evil is hatred of females. Really? why? of all the things to pick, why that? & if you listen to that ambient Svanir dialog (which it seems you don’t listen to much ambient dialog at all) they are portrayed as total idiots. If you had a faction of women that hated men, but acted like dolts & talked amongst each other about how they hate men but want them really bad, you’d get lynched.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Personally, I view gender equality as me having the right to make fun of a female character and not have someone go “you’re just doing it because she’s a GURL” and have that treated as a valid defense.

Yeah well since the game just “happens” to have the vast majority of that “making fun” coming from females toward males your view doesn’t mesh with your argument.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Glint being a Sacrificial Female with “death by backstory”, Eir being driven suicidal by two males and an asura who couldn’t stop picking on her , Rox continuing to have it made funny about how she idolizes a superior who talks down to her, and Queen Jennah being not very effective compared to any other leader of the five major races.

So you’re complaining about Glint being a Martyr? What? That’s what made Snaff cool. Eir being the victim of two stupid men? fits the narrative. They try to make women victims of men & vehicles to show how dumb & inept men can be. Rox’s story is never “made funny”. The story is crafted so everyone specifically feels sympathy toward her. Your character even calls Rytlock to task for it. but nice reversal. Queen Jennah not being effective compared tot he other leaders? Nah. They all do about the same.

I just don’t see the need for most of the female antagonism & “looks how dumb/inept he really is” in the story at all. Why can’t they actually work together & like each other. It’s not about strong women. Varesh was a strong woman. Scarlet was a cartoon female power fantasy. These character’s aren’t Ripley or Nancy Thompson. They are Anita Sarkesians. They are going about “powerful” the wrong way.

I agree there is a lot wrong with the writing, but I do think this is a big issue. It makes pushing these themes more important then just making a character that fits the world.

Gilosean.3805:

If you mean “Are you going to keep treating men and women as equal?”, then I definitely hope so.

So equal to you is:
Having most interaction between npcs having the female reject, insult, mock or one-up the males who are often depicted as inept, foolish or just plain dumb.
Having the main story cast be almost entirely female with the only male an ineffectual dud whose main story is that he was rejected by a woman & lives under the shadow of his Mom?
Having the main female villain sodomize Lord Farren as a “joke”.
Having the side character Logan we a whipping boy for Jenna & Anise based on Aneise’ laughably illogical “plan”.
Having Anise buy Canach & everyone think it’s not weird at all.
Yeah, that doesn’t sound like a bizarre feminist fantasy at all. You know, if it’s just a coincidence, fine. But that’s way too much consistency to be a coincidence. But I think if the roles were reversed you’d be on this forum burning with righteous indignation. It’s not like I’m asking for them to make it so the men can give birth so they can be “equal”. I’m just sick of see the obvious fantasizing in the writing. It literally is bending the story just to fit it in. Taimi being the only one that can fix the gates? are you kidding me? There must be entire Asuran companies that have been researching & working with gates & dragon energy for decades & the little “cute/sassy/pc” girl is the only one that can fix it & just “happens” to get subverted by the mean ol patriarch? Come on… Finding out that Anita Sarkezian visited Anet a while back just dumped more fuel on the fire. I never had any problem with the females in GW1. I even liked Kormir. But this.. this has nothing to do with “equal”.

Leah Hoyer.9382:

Thanks for the feedback, folks. I appreciate your comments and will say that consistent, complex, nuanced characters and storytelling are absolutely my goal as well. I’m soaking up all the existing story that I can, via gameplay, wikis, our novels, and lots and lots of conversations with my coworkers who have great insights (and opinions) on our expansive lore. I really love the game and am excited to be a part of it moving forward. Keep the comments coming!

Leah
(now with fancy, red ANet banner)

Are you going to continue going with the feminist flavor they’ve added to the GW story?

Phlunt? Taimi is the annoying, petulant, cheap pet character.

Ruin it?

Keep trying to convince the players that Scarlet was a good character.

Sparks The Rescue.5043:

In this second feature patch, ArenaNet has done nothing but listen to the community….

Wait, wut?

TexZero.7910:

Or it could be indicative of the pool of people they sampled

Let us all remember the fatal flaw of data and stats. Data can and will be miss-interpreted. Stats are only relevant to the pool they are derived from and cannot be used to measure the whole.

That’s a meaningless observation as it’s the only way to test anything in a game. This whole forum is a worse offender of sample pool data. The point is, weather i like it or not, this may get more people into the game. & Our dislike of it is not as accurate as testing.

ouch. to be fair, the main issues (wrong zone) are just bugs.

I don’t like the changes either, but the fact is, it’s entirely possible this is what new players need. As dumb as it sounds to us, If they did usability & the data indicated these changes, then there is little we can do. There are plenty of games that have idiot tutorials because most players couldn’t figure out something simple.

Corpus Christi.2057:

Now I can really feel the lack of the main art designer who left for “Destiny” game. Seriously, this couldn’t get any worse…

I felt that right as soon as I saw Scarlet. He left a long time ago.

But yeah, these are lazy & boring. Like most of the stuff you don’t have to pay money for.

vaalix.4913:

The patch notes also said the leveling from 1-20 was quicker… BS it is.. It is vaslty slower because you have less tools to kill at your disposal for the first 10 levels…

They probably meant the xp requirement is lower, but yeah, it takes WAY longer without the story being available. I used to get to lvl 7 in 15 min. Now it’s almost an hour.

Vayne.8563:

Anet’s way forward is to leave behind the people that can’t adapt to where the game is going and to get new people who like the game for what it is. And that means keeping people from free demo weekends.

Because new players never become old players. Or are you saying they should just churn?

I’ve decided to stop spending money on it too. Id normally buy the Ninja & Ceremonial armor but the fact is, I just don’t like the game’s overall direction.

I liked GW1 business model way more. I’d rather pay for an expansion than get the LS free. I’m sick of all the rewards being in the Cash Shop. Sick of no new classes/races/skills.

NO. Stop using NGE for every little thing.. this is NOT SWG NGE level change.

Haven’t tried leveling yet. I don’t have a problem with them changing stuff if it really does help new players stay around.

The thing I was so excited about & so disappointed in, is the collections. The rewards are so. freeking. stingy. They are so hesitant to make new skins IN GAME. Especially with things like the exo collection & Spirit Weapons Crafter. The Spirit Weapons Crafter back piece doesn’t even resemble the look of the spirit weapons. After getting 5 500+ gold weapons you should be getting a full set of spirit armor. Not a bad reskinned back piece.