Guild Wars 2

I would easily pay 1g instead of 3.5s for skill reset if we had maybe 3 preset builds instead of just one (together with their own gear in a separate inventory).

Gandara solution? Lol!

This type of counter to melee trains have been known for a long time. Piken Square even employed the scattering method against the mighty Red Guard successfully (after they tought us how to melee train, of course). Well, sometimes we wiped them. Most of the time it just hurt

The “problem” with the method is that it has to be organized chaos and each individual has to know how to stay alive and buff themselves. You have to do razor sharp cuts into the melee train to reduce their strength – not always easy with the chaos and all. Its constant movement to stay ahead of the melee train, a single mistake with stacking too many players in one area will mean a whole lot of dead people because the melee train suddenly got a place a to run to. It also assumes that you outnumber the train (by alot), making it ineffective in terms of overall strategy.

Eh? The Elementalist already got the +25% signet (which maybe 95-99% use in WvW). Use superior runes of speed on an ele would do exactly nothing, since the 6th bonus does not stack with the sigil. At best you free up a skill slot.

And on that note, can we please have an update when this is going to be fixed? Is it fixed internally so its rolled out next patch? Has Anet forgotten about it? If you cant fix it can you at least remove the kitten rune from the game and replace everyones speed runes with the working traveller runes? Its been two weeks now!

Wolfheart.1938:

Was north inner breached by trebs? Because I took part in that attack and there were no ACs built. If there were, the order wasn’t issued by the commander, or we used them to counter your ACs.

Yes it was a treb that breached it (and kept firing at the unbreakable wall where no one was standing for the lulz). Elona border I think.

Either it was arrowcarts you built or the zerg was having a lengthy stacking orgy in the corner.

I really dont want to know the details of the latter.

Wemil.7052:

but im gonna explain what commanders guild are drilling pugs atm but today we wiped 42v80 sfr vs elona:)

we are atm drilling professional check up.

Oh so that’s whats going on?

I was wondering why I witnessed one of the most cowardly attack on bay I ever have seen a couple of hours ago. Piken, outnumbered buff. We where maybe a dozen random peeps against 30-40 sfr, with the north inner wall breached. I was practicly alone between the stairs and shack when reds began pouring in, determined to hold the path at any cost. Then the zerg just went right and built arrowcarts behind the shack. We must have fought for 5+ minutes and you just kept giving us bags and spamming those arrows into the opening while randoms tried to attack. Of course we lost – randoms cant win over those numbers even with defensive arrowcarts.

Guess you have to sometimes play the safe card when drilling pugs. Incredibly cowardly, but safe.

Terrahero.9358:

GvG ofcourse would not work well as an e-sport, if e-sport is your goal you dont do 20v20 its to messy. No one can see whats going on as a spectator.

And yet, its the only thing played competetivly in GW2 and activly spectated by players to the point where they dont even kill enemies next to them. Its an all borderland event that bring three enemy servers together in a way that Arenanet never intended. Have you ever seen anyone in the crowd shout “scatter, I cant see whats going on, scatter!!!”

How many people spectate your random sPvP solo tournament match?

Well, look at the bright side – more guilds may join WvW now that the everyone will know how to break the WvW queues, pushing solo queueing pugs out.

I find it amazing that we can actually break something that’s already broken. Its not even kicking a dead horse anymore, its a dead horse kicking itself!

No mention about the broken superior rune of speed, but it does mention lyssa being fixed which was reported and noted by the devs in the thread about the speed rune being broken.

Well kitten. If its true then Anet sure knows how to kitten people off.

Dont ever pick light/medium armor style on a Charr, only metal plating look good really.

Bunda.2691:

1. Rear-line dps w/ greatsword. Problem is that dps isn’t great, and we’re pretty much only good at picking off stragglers or those that stray from the hammer train.

This IMO isnt really an option. A guild group that truly want to be awesome doesnt have a backline

No seriously, its not needed nor is it required. Even when damage oriented, you can build up to 2000 toughness and still pack a punch with something like 30% crit chance/60% crit damage. Its far from a berserker, but in a zerg its enough and you’re much, much more resilient. You can easily run with the big boys. Remember that the backline is the #1 weakness of any zerg. It doesnt matter if its organized or random pugs, when it fail the group will generally fail – not because of lost dps, but because of lost manpower. Their abilities are better than their damage! You dont want all your Mesmers dead and suddenly stand without null fields, for example.

Its even more important for a glamour mesmer, since you always want to be on top of the commander in the very front of the line – inside your own etheral fields and ready to veil.

Hey what can I say, I play aggressivly :p

Traveler is working and gives +25%, Speed is completely broken and only give +5% (if any, its hard to say).

Devs have confirmed its in their “tracker”… But its been some 4 patches since we reported it bugged.

Afya.5842:

MMO requires macro more than mechanical switch. Although mechanical switch feels great, I doubt it has much advantage for gaming, except when 2 people play on the same keyboard then NKRO will matter. But then you need PS2 which means you wont have macro keys.

You can macro any keyboard (or mouse) easily with applications.

Not to mention macros isnt really usefull for GW2 since it has short skill chains that are easily disrupted by enemy players.

Raine.1394:

Yes, it appears to be a rubber dome keyboard and nothing that a gamer would normally seek out. I use a steelseries (6GV/2) which has mechanical switches and the positive tactile response that most experienced gamers seek.

6gV2 doesnt have any tactile response, both regular and red are linear.

But you’re right, its what the true gamer seek, not those shoddy blue clicketiclicketies that are considered “gamer” switches

Dont feel too bad. Its just rubber dome. Slapping the GW2 picture on it is like dressing up a little kitten with barbie clothing. Sure its prettier now, but its still a kitten .

Edit: Forum censoring went… better… than expected. I think. Ah well use your imagination.

Its been bugged for like 2 months now? I’m surprised its in the tracker already :/

The only real zerg buster build is confusion-blind-glamour with focus reflection and the staff. Feedback, veil, nullfield and timewarp pretty much locks up your entire skill bar. All of them are important against zergs – the more organisation your own group have, the more critical they become. There are no ifs or buts here, you have no room for teleport or decoy or whatever.

The actual armor you have is less important but pumping everything possible into toughness and vitality is prefered. Condition vs power… Well condition is generally better since power sort of assumes crit chance, which in turn assume crit damage – way too much taken away from toughness/vitality. Direct damage is irrelevant – you are there for your utility.

Whether this is actually fun to play is up to each individual. It sort of demands a guild group that knows whakittens doing.

nearlight.3064:

Also dawdler, not trying to sound rude but are you suggesting staff/GS on the same build at the same time? Because that idea will limit a mesmers effectiveness more than anything else as the two weapons don’t have a logical reason to work together. You’ll need a sword for shatter/phant or scpeter for condition on the other set for their melee defensive/burst capabilities. And yes scepter 2/3 is “condition burst”.

Short answer: Yes.

I have played both PvE and WvW with a ton of different builds and my weapons of choice for both is greatsword/staff. Though sometimes I switch to sword/focus/staff in dungeons. I choose the greatsword along with the staff because it give me 100% ranged offensive power and contrary to what you say it would do, it increases my effectivness alot because they do work great together and I am always to put pressure on my opponent. I cant even begin to count how many times I “lost” small scale battles using a sword/focus simply because people ran away with low hp, only to come back full. The staff doesnt cut it – people simply run out of range of the auto-attack and iWarlock not to mention past chaos storm. With the greatsword its whambamthankyoumam. Sometimes you can get in decent whammos with the sword, but its so easy to avoid as its very well shown when its going to happen – not to mention iLeap being horribly bugged since release. In terms of damage, its about the same as iBerserker (only slower). So I weigh inyourface sword damage (albeit with some invounerability) against a max range berserker spin and well… For me the better option is obvious.

But hey if you dont like the greatsword, that’s fine. Just saying its a very simple weapon to increase your roaming strength if you find the sword lacking. I do miss my Firebringer and Ambrosia too at times, dual sigils ftw.

And before anyone ask why I dont say greatsword/sword/focus (which I would say is a full berserker setup), I find the staff too usefull in WvW. And I got Bifrost. Probably more to do with the latter.

Hahaha we can only wish…

No, Tequatl Rising will probably have plenty of content added. And add at least 50 new bugs. Instead of fixing the 200+ introduced bugs over the course of the living story.

I wish there would be an actual patch with no content at all :/

StormHawk.9862:

For some reason, though, when I use a GS, as of compared to a staff, with a power build, and verse the same pve enemy, I always seem to kill faster with the staff than the GS, even though the GS is supposed to do more damage…. I’m pretty sure I’m using GS correctly, then why is this happening? :/

People cant dodge and generally have mediocre condition removal, plain and simple.

The major difference between the staff and the greatsword is that the greatsword has continous high damage auto-attack (comparably) and medium damage quick bursts while the staff is single high damage burst with an increasingly effective auto-attack depending on boons/conditions. The first is hard to dodge and mitigate. The second is easy if the enemy have counters for it (condition/boon removal). But it can also knock people off their socks if they neither dodge or remove conditions on themselves and boons on you.

The GS is also very dependant on a certain rotation to be effective which isnt always easy with 5 seconds skill lag. If you do 2, 4, 3, you should get all to connect at the same time and take about half the hitpoints of an enemy. That generally make at least one of their eyebrows raise and is the core of GS handling. If you engaged with the staff (which you should have) then the iWarlock attack should also connect at the same time while chaos storm is on top of them, or they should have suffered a shatter combo that already took half their hitpoints.

In terms of the actual question, GS vs staff in WvW… GS + staff. ’nuff said.

nearlight.3064:

From an offensive point of view I see your point, but if you get jumped using a greatsword instead of staff, or (scepter/torch or sword/x), you have little active defense other than the #5 knockback, which is on too long of a cooldown to do much good. Then you’re forced to swap too sword since in melee range the autoattack is garbage, and #2 is pointless, #3 is almost a joke with how it roots you. It is a very strong phantasm, I’ll give you that.

Sword/pistol or focus even is a far greater and more useful burst weapon than GS in both shatter and phantasm specs, and the evade frames are very strong.

Staff, even in a power build is amazing for its fast clone generation. Phase retreating when you get jumped can port you out of an enemies burst very easily on a low cooldown. Lets not forget that thieves simply melt in chaos storm due to chill and interrupts, and is the same size as shadow refuge!

Lastly we have scepter/torch, which I use as a condition mesmer in pvp. Besides the block/torment spike, the stealth especially when traited is just very strong.

Sorry to sound rude or harsh but mesmer greatsword is only one step up from a longbow ranger, its only good for sniping when you have a mob around you that gives you the range you need to actually make use of it. Most classes will close the gap ASAP and fight melee or mid range. On my scepter/torch/staff condition build I’ve never lost to a mesmer using a GS.

… And I was only ever arguing the greatsword from an offensive burst point of view (call it “sniping” if you want), not to mention I noted that you never open with it, you use something with quick evasive skills like the staff when running about.

Also, conditions. OP in a world of berserkers without any condition removal. We know that. The thread poster is clearly not a condition user since he’s berserker with a touch of toughness. Different builds, different weapons and tactics. I dont recommend a scepter/torch for a build that’s based on burst. With scepter/torch you’d probably get pummeled by a condition Mesmer just as fast if it was a greatsword

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Conclusion, you think you are the skilled server.

Of course Piken think its a skilled server. Wtf are we supposed to think when equal sized forces flee before us, refusing to do battle? That we stink? Look, that may be the case but it still inflate our self-esteem to legendary heights.

It’d be great if Anet could actually investigate whether its been fixed or not instead.

Its been a week to change a number from 5 to 25. It doesnt sounds like that would be too hard. I seriously hope thakittens fixed in todays patch :/

nearlight.3064:

Greatsword will get you killed if you use it outside of a zerg.

Lulwat?

You have to eloborate on that. The greatsword is the best burst weapon a Mesmer has and the only long range weapon with pressure (ie consistent high damage attacks). Its excellent at nailing runners, ie half the work when solo. Incidently its also one of the best weapons against roaming thieves that love to pop their stupid house. Is it an ideal weapon in any situation? Certainly not, the other has their uses. But it wont get you killed just because its a greatsword. People dying with a greatsword will die just as good with a scepter or sword.

Stop talking about how great traveler rune is!

Last night my character physically killed one of her clones and just stood there, smiling, over the corpse. “Go ahead, do let me use speed runes. This is what I’ll look every single encounter”.

Everyone has complained about the pants for a long time now… Nothing ever happens. Every kitten new armor introduced is skirts. They could just tune some of the medium armor and town clothes – which is lighter than some light armor – and introduce new sets, but no. They dont.

It took 10 tries to read what this thread said, because I got internal errors :p

Try using the greatsword instead.

The thing is, sword/focus arent bad weapons, but its not roaming weapons. Its zerg weapons. When you engage in 1v1, the focus is poor (though it somewhat redeems itself if the enemy happen to be ranged only and you traited reflection) and the sword is too easy to avoid. Once the enemy move out of range of the sword (not to mention iWarden), you will completely lack pressure. And winning a 1v1 battle is all about pressure. When you have pressure, the enemy go on the defense. When they are on the defense, its easy to see and exploit their mistakes.

Judging by the build you posted you dont even have traited focus, which basicly make it worthless. Hell, you got the build ready for a traited greatsword instead!

Combine the sword/focus with a staff (untraited as well, what are you thinking?!?) and you basicly got no pressure at all. Unless the enemy happen to be an idiot with a melee weapon.

Regarding thieves, there’s only one decent way to handle their initial attack – toughness and vitality. Survivability traits dont hurt either. Your build is weak on all parts, so you have to use your own burst to counter theirs – which you dont have either due to the weapon choices, lol.

I understand why you have problems. A quick tip with the equipment you got – dont engage with the sword/focus first. Always engage with the staff. It doesnt matter what other weapon combo you have, the staff is an opener. Bursting an enemy first then starting to kite with staff… well that is pointless. He’ll just heal and then you’ll have fun farting at him with your flimsy staff. You want to use the staff to pop armor, the warlock, and storm, pop away with 2, shatter and then swap your weapons to burst him.

Yes… Dont stand on it. Standing on disappearing things is bad.

I think this is actually more difficult to fix than you think, seeing as its deeper in game mechanics than just “its a bug”. But the question why the door hasnt been moved further into the corridor or the burrow simply moved further from the door is a mystery…

Still broken in the latest patch, sigh.

tinfoil hat mode
Is this a plot by Anet to draw gold from players in TP charges by forcing them to buy the working travelers rune?

I honestly dont think its just the BL kit. I think they reintroduced the ecto bug. I feel like the ecto salvage returns has been insanely low over the last couple of patches, nowhere near the close-to-1:1 you usually get in the end. More like getting 1 ecto from salvaging 6 rares.

But maybe its just me.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Weren’t runes of speed +7% swiftness speed before? Maybe it still works that way and is a text error? Tbh I’d like the old effect more then new one. For new effect, traveler rune seems better.

Devs have confirmed its a bug but given no indication when such a simple thing is going to be fixed.

Sigh… Have to shelf an entire armor set just because of this. Or fork out 40 gold for the traveler runes.

Hm. Maybe Anet knew what they where doing after all.

80% damage?! Sounds like you made too much sacrifices for damage. Lower that to maybe 40-50% crit damage and you should still reach 25Kish HP and 2000 toughness. That shouldnt melt quite so fast.

Jayne.9251:

Lol, I suspect SFR is laying a bit low because they’re afraid of the impending bandwagoners

Not to take away anything from Piken. I think we fight hard no matter the score or server rank. It’s what I’ve come to respect a great deal about this server.

Its not like Piken winning over SFR (or Vizunah for that matter) would change anything.

We will be hopelessly stuck between having no coverage and pwning guilds.

Spanex.1950:

I seem to keep losing my Magic Find. At the beginning of the SAB patch when we recieved 5 of these legendary essences, I got my MF up to 60%.

From those 5 essences or what? Keep in mind that they only give a measly 20% (at best). To get up to 60%, you must have either salvaged 500+ greens and be lucky with the drops or have something like 60,000 achievement points – which I somehow doubt.

Also you can check your progress in the achievement tab, on each essence consumed. That way you can be certain that it increases. The requirement raise alot with each level. In the beginning its just 100 to next MF percentage, at 60% its somewhere around 1000.

Yeah only the actual heal skill count.

What’s “best” really depend on your build orientation. For example, you could use the AoE healing rune to boost healing. Note that it not only proc on each tap of the heal, it also proc on channeling. So you get 3 procs for “one” heal if you match the cooldowns. There is no downtime no matter which rune bonus you choose.

Of course. Its working as it always has.

The bug remains after this evenings patch. Will we see another patch tomorrow?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Speed-Rune-New-25-speed-buff-bugged/first#post2777180

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Superior-Rune-of-Speed-6-point-is-Bugged/first#post2772433

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Runes-of-Speed-not-giving-6-piece-bonus/first#post2774194

No confirmation from Anet in any thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Superior-Rune-of-Speed-6-point-is-Bugged/first#post2772433

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Runes-of-Speed-not-giving-6-piece-bonus/first#post2774194

Been posted, still no reply from Anet on the critical functionality of this rune. An admin should combine the threads. Going to be a bummer if we have to buy a new bloody armor set just to have this collect dust in the bank until its fixed.

Advent.6193:

They fixed the 6/6 on Speed already?

Nope. There hasnt been any patch since yesterday despite the plethora of bugs introduced.

Nah, she’s mine!

On Gendarran fields she tracked me specifically, in the middle of nowhere (it was an alt without the map explored so I had to swim/run alot).

One time she appeared under water, we where both alone… And she stomped me to the ground in 1 second then disappeared.

The second time I was running across this nice meadow, alone again because I didnt have a waypoint… And I hear a silly laugh behind me followed by prompt death.

The third time the final event is 99% done, I go away from the huge zerg to get out of combat and bring up the map. A wild Scarlet has appeared! On the other side of the map! kitten that’s going to be a long run. Oh wait, she’s moving. Closer. Closer. Clooooooooooser… Oh she’s going to appear in the middle of the zerg next to me?! Bring the map down. She’s on top of me and sends me flying.

kitten psycho kitten.

Oh it was good fun yesterday.

But we really could have used more necros.

Nretep.2564:

I don’t think that’s the case, but to clarify …

You did not use a movement speed signet or swiftness while testing the runeset, did you ?

Swiftness just give +33% speed, it doesnt stack with +25%. It overwrite it. So it doesnt matter.

Also, its definetly bugged. Just do a run with a class without speed using the 6 runes vs a class with a speed signet. Its broken.

But its no problem really, I’ll just keep reporting it as a progress stopping bug every day because it sure does stop me from being competitive in WvW. Unless ANET state in one of these threads thakittens an acknowledged bug that’s going to be fixed soon, at least then we know that they know.

Yeah, dont take superior rune of speed! The +25% movement speed does not work!!! I too tried to go the “cheap” way when I saw the cost of the traveler runes (well actually I had already bought them, then I sold them at a nice profit and got the speed runes for free ^^).

… And now I have 7 useless runes on my Mesmer. I hope Anet fix this in days rather than months. Or never if its anything like Mesmer bugs.

I can confirm this. I have 7/6 Superior run of speed (on the breather as well) and do not get +25% speed.

I tested by running next to a guildie Necro with speed signet and its simply no comparison, he outran me like a champ. It doesnt work. Fix ASAP, this negativly affecting everyone since runes are a major gameplay component in WvW!!!.

Then call me casual cause I will probably get them, lol.

I use Melandru normally and they give good stats for my bunkerish build.
However… I am in dire need of speed. Equipping staff/greatsword for that extra punch, I have no way except chaos storm to give myself speed. Yes I can run with a zerg and get 3+ minutes of swiftness, but as soon as one loose that or just get separated by a tiny bit its like being a flopping fish in a puddle of water. I only have to play my Necro or Thief for 5 seconds to realize how bloody awesome the speed signet is for combat mobility in WvW. Small scale, its truly priceless – mobility is everything. Large scale, it can help alot in following the commander, which again is priceless if its a guild group.

Regarding the Centaur runes, I have them on a set as well and I run traited mantra healing = easy perma swiftness. BUT there is a major flaw in this – I have to use my heal (duh). at 8s cooldown its not a disaster, but it can still mean quite alot when I have the heal available. Not to mention being an idiot and unable to tap it every 10s. Its too kitten easy to kitten up in the middle of a fight and suddenly end up either without heal or without speed. I’d rather focus on the actual combat.

Collision detection and friendly fire. It would fix everything.

“Oh no, there is a 50 man zerg chasing our 2 man crew into the tunnel, run!”
“Wait, what are they doing, they just fiddle about in the entrance?”
“The entire frontline is downed and the backline looks like they are dying due to retaliation, wtf?”
…
Only laughter was heard on the battlefield that day.

Seriously, friendly fire for a day. Make it happen ANET.

KOK.2650:

Can we nerf the gain when it is MY off-peak hour and YOUR peak time as well since at that time MY SERVER is outmanned.

Hence why superiority based scoring might actually work. What happen during YOUR off peak hours is irrelevant. For this system there is no specific “off-peak hour”. Every hour is off-peak hour until people actually start fighting for objectives. It apply equally for all three servers, no matter the time, no matter the map. It is simply based on who is fighting who where and who brought the most overwhelming force (ie zerg) to a small area. Will the server holding all objectives unopposed during the night still get score? Of course, just not as much as it does now. Not because its nighttime, simply because there are no players near them. Its not about removing the existing system, just slapping area based player count adjustment of score on top of it.

Anet would never do this. I mean they havent even done a tickbox with “private” for the commander tag in a year, this is so much more complicated it would take them at least 200-250 years to do. But still cant hurt to dream of ideas.

My solution would be this:

Introduce superiority based scoring and visibility system. Solve both zergs and off peak scoring in one blow!
Split all borders and EB into say an 8×8 grid (roughly, may not be exakt squares). Lets call them “areas of influence” or whatever. Score income is based on how many people you have and how many people the enemy have in an area. If there is 50 from the Green team and 2 from the Red team (ie a common night for a T1 vs T5 server) in one of these “areas”, the Red team gets a massive point boost to anything they do, while the Green team get very little. If Green team is holding a tower against these 2 people, the score income for that tower is very, very low. If there is no players at all in an area (ie night), score income slows to a trickle. This would allow low pop servers to actually focus their efforts without having the other servers gain a huge amount of points in the meantime. It would also make it fun for all three servers, as they could fight on a single borderland while the others can be almost “ignored” in terms of the points they bring in (since no one is there).

This change should increase the importance to defend (after all you get more points the longer you can hold it against overwhelming forces), reduce the importance of both the night shift and slow days unless there’s actually fighting going on and encourage spreading out players across the map to get more points, rather than a single 50 man zerg running around getting little to no points because there’s only 5 enemies nearby.

They could also change the map to allow us to see these scoring differences. Did Red presence in the bay area just skyrocket when Green is holding it? Well get your kitten over there and fight, your server gets more points from holding it against them for an hour than the enemy team would have gotten holding it for a night against no one! It would have a similar “limitation” as the swords, except its across a larger area, ie it react only to large numbers and its somewhat delayed. This would allow us to actually follow large zergs. No more invisible armies, when they move you know it. Another reason to scatter… Unless of course you want to trick the enemy.

Taco? That’s just make him sound cute and cuddly and edible.

Real men say Tequila.