soldier ammy/zerker rune?
Structure PvP items, I’m a HOTM player not a WvW PvPer. Sorry for the confusion.
Ah…
Well, and I was just running around, spamming stuns
I’ll try sword instead of mace, even if I’ll have to be more careful.XD
Once you get used to spamming that immobolize on cooldown, you never go back.
What about using Axe instead of sword?
Need mobility for tPvP.
To be honest? it’s in flux, just trying a lot of things until we get it right really. Sometimes it works, other times we fail extremely hard.
Monday it worked.
Tuesday the change up made us look like scrubs.
I Like Steb. He’s a nice guy.
It depends how the skill coefficients change. They may saturate in which your power would get less of a return for each point.
Btw a gs build without points in precision is scary.
Damage formula is
Power * Weapon strength * Skill coeffcient / (Thoughness + Defense)
So output damage scales linearly with Power.
Mathed.
Awaiting K Pop response.
my knowledge to ranger is limited, can some one please tell me what`s going on and how to counter it
WvW or PvP (i dont think this is about pvp since you dont have problem with other professions)???
- WvW depends on gear, lvl or zerg size.
- PvP Run Away (his pet is stronger than warrior).Burst warriors shouldn’t be able to beat a good BM ranger unless their CD’s are on a timer, unfortunately. Not unless their CD’s are on a timer.
Here is how you beat the BM ranger. You must land a blade trail with room for the blade to return to hit twice. bulls rush frenzy 100 blades during the immob. make sure Balance stance is up because dog rng knockdown is designed to hit during channels.
Now here is the key point. Do not immediately Shield bash eviscerate. If you landed everything up to this point the ranger will be about half health give or take. Now swap to axe set and auto attack.Wait for the ranger to turn blue to signify healing. Then shield bash eviscerate. The ranger will be low, but possibly not dead. But you will have 3 more seconds before they can heal again, and that is your opening to finish the job.
Lets be fair.
Chances of this happening against a good ranger are difficult to comprehend at best.
Are you telling me I can’t land a blade trail bro?
Do you even lift?
1 Handed lift.
my knowledge to ranger is limited, can some one please tell me what`s going on and how to counter it
WvW or PvP (i dont think this is about pvp since you dont have problem with other professions)???
- WvW depends on gear, lvl or zerg size.
- PvP Run Away (his pet is stronger than warrior).Burst warriors shouldn’t be able to beat a good BM ranger unless their CD’s are on a timer, unfortunately. Not unless their CD’s are on a timer.
Here is how you beat the BM ranger. You must land a blade trail with room for the blade to return to hit twice. bulls rush frenzy 100 blades during the immob. make sure Balance stance is up because dog rng knockdown is designed to hit during channels.
Now here is the key point. Do not immediately Shield bash eviscerate. If you landed everything up to this point the ranger will be about half health give or take. Now swap to axe set and auto attack.Wait for the ranger to turn blue to signify healing. Then shield bash eviscerate. The ranger will be low, but possibly not dead. But you will have 3 more seconds before they can heal again, and that is your opening to finish the job.
Lets be fair.
Chances of this happening against a good ranger are difficult to comprehend at best.
my knowledge to ranger is limited, can some one please tell me what`s going on and how to counter it
WvW or PvP (i dont think this is about pvp since you dont have problem with other professions)???
- WvW depends on gear, lvl or zerg size.
- PvP Run Away (his pet is stronger than warrior).
Burst warriors shouldn’t be able to beat a good BM ranger unless their CD’s are on a timer, unfortunately. Not unless their CD’s are on a timer.
I dont think GS is going to be your most effective weapon because the most damage comes from #2. You might want to use a axe or something. Longbow isn’t much better DPS unless you have heavy condition damage which I doubt because your using GS.
I don’t think warrior is a very good matchup against ranger because ranger is the most solid 1v1 class between heals and pet dps. I’m tempted to say no warrior ever has a chance 1v1 but i’ve seen some good warriors out there recently.
No offense but this isn’t the greatest of advice.
Longbow first off does terrific damage if traited for power, crit damage, and crit chance.
Axe is a great weapon sure, but it is best off as a side weapon to use on weapon swap, no mobility, limited range.
GS/Longbow is a legit Warrior build.
Also, Whirlwind will most often be your highest dealing attack considering you can use it on CD, it’s an evade skill and it’s an AoE.
Out of curiosity, what’s ANets stance on making a buck off their API/Game?
Not trying to poke holes, just curious. Is there a royalty you guys pay per download?
I hope you dont even try to play a rougue on WOW you will pee.
The thief class in this game is just pathetic.
I always thought their stealth mechanics were very fair.
Just wanted to pop in and say good luck to you guys. I think your teams going to surprise people in the upcoming SOAC tourney
-Aiden Frost
ty Aiden, trying our best here to introduce something new to the scene.
I’ll come back to this post when I’m stoned
Or is it that we’re all stoned now and that makes perfect sense to a sober person..
wat the wat
x15char
Guys thanks for getting to us, we like a specific guy right now and will keep trying him for a couple days. Appreciate the responses it was a fantastic turnout.
If we decide not to go with this person then I’ll promise to contact the next person in line.
Thank you!
Send Storm.6408 (Zeromis) a message and he’ll try you out.
We’re going to try out a lot of people so if anyone else is interested please feel free to pile it on.
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Recruitment on hold.
Hi.
Myself and my three teammates are looking for a 5th to finish up our team search.
We’re looking for a highly skilled Ranger, Elementalist or Engineer (possibly a necro as well).
I don’t want to use Ranks as a guideline but 30+ would be a good showing of your dedication to sPvP.
‘Practice’ occurs Monday/Tuesday/Thursday from 7-10pm est.
We use Mumble for communication.
Please contact me in-game, PM me on the forums or leave a message here.
Thank you!
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Top sought after classes:
Guardian
Elementalist
Mesmer
Engineer
RangerClasses that are semi-looked for but mostly gauged on the skill of the player:
Thief
NecromancerClasses teams stay away from:
WarriorsAgree with you on most part except you put Mesmer, Engine and Ranger below Elementalist which should be the other way around. After the Nerf, Eles is not as powerful as before anymore…. I still want at least one thief in the team though. Necromancer is also good for certain map (Forest of Niffile for example). And yeah, sadly Warrior is the class most team stay away from but certainly not mine
They we not in a particular order otherwise I would have put numbers next to them.
Sorry, we are talking about overall popularity or among high-level players? And GW2 haven analogue Armory from WoW, where you can watch the best teams?
If a team was looking for classes (thus a demand on classes), then those are the classes that are in demand.
The only demand you’ll find are from tournament teams, if you’re not looking to tourny then it doesn’t really matter much at all.
Top sought after classes:
Guardian
Elementalist
Mesmer
Engineer
Ranger
Classes that are semi-looked for but mostly gauged on the skill of the player:
Thief
Necromancer
Classes teams stay away from:
Warriors
LF Team. Serious inquiries only.
Warrior / NA
Whisper me.
Some major warrior changes are hinted coming in the next few weeks, I guess just ‘stay tuned’ is the only answer I can give.
I don’t believe them unless i see that. “We want to make kick useful” tada increased range from 120 to 300..yeah funny.
I’ve been known to be critical of ArenaNet in regards to Warriors. But my latest conversations and the SOTG has enforced that there are significant changes coming soon. Hold tight fellas.
Hi,
My name is Defektive.
I am a very active member of the tPvP community and require the help of someone skilled in the methods of Graphic Art!
I have 1 gold to my name, thats about it, you can have it if you want :P
Essentially, I just need a classy overlay for the Warrior class, I can provide screen shots as well as resolution.
I would be happy to provide photo cred on my twitch page (www.twitch.tv/Defektive)
Thanks!
Warriors aren’t even viable and yet you want them to refocus their attention on extra builds for classes that are already at the top of the food chain… lets at least get every class 1 viable tPvP build.
It does not remove the burning condition given by instigators in Southsun event. All my other condition removal skills work and quick breathing works by removing any other condition except for this one. Please fix this.
It was correctly removing burning condi’s from me last night in sPvP.
Probably something specific to that mob?
Some major warrior changes are hinted coming in the next few weeks, I guess just ‘stay tuned’ is the only answer I can give.
… when it’s ready …
Defektive you went full Anet.
On a more serious note, next balance patch will hopefully bring some nice trait rework and our warrior community can start theorycrafting hardcore again. When the time comes, let’s all play nicely and share our ideas with the rest of us.
Can’t wait to blow dust off my warrior tPvP wise.
:(
I just notice a lot of warriors put out builds that haven’t been thoroughly put through the ringer and end up asking people for their opinions and poking holes in their own build. The end result are people who comment on how the build isn’t good but if you do XYZ it will be.
All I’m trying to do is avoid that.
I’m going to be kicking my streams into high gear soon. Focusing 75% of it on tournament builds, tournament play, the Warriors place in a tournament as well as fielding questions from the chat regarding Warriors.
I don’t think a class is solely good based on how many foes they can down in an allotted time, but rather what they bring to the team overall.
What we bring to the table is kind of our problem though isn’t it? Many of the roles in TPvP can often be better filled by another class. You could have your team build around having you but I’m not sure that’s the best option. Even when I do well in PvP I feel like I had the skill advantage, not that I was on equal ground.
I’ve been running a new build thats been relatively successful taking over the role of an Ele. Still testing but there is some wiggle room in warriors.
Granted we have an extremely up hill battle, but some things do work if you slam your head against the wall long enough to find a crack
Hey Defektive! Glad to see you are back in the game
Would love to see this “ele” build you are playing with. I wish I had the time and inclination to theorycraft and come up with new builds
Any idea when you will be posting it and will it be on the forums or your twitch page?
I still have some testing to do, and I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of warrior traits / skills etc. are about to change so I’m not putting a lot of effort into showing people the build just yet.
But when it’s ready I will :P
Ahh, even more intriguing! Would be nice to get some buffs but hope they dont overdo it like with other classes so we see a million FOTM identical classes
On a side note (and if you see this), I have been watching your hammer build videos and notice you use your heal quite a few times even though your life is full and your adrenaline bar is almost full. Is this just so you can engage with a 100% adrenaline bar or is there some other reason behind it that I haven’t seen in the traits?
Regarding the healing, out of habit I do it before a fight. I try to do it a good 10 seconds before a fight starts so I’m at 100% offensive state, because by the time I need the heal again it should be ready. Essentially just trying to maximize everything to I’m most optimal in a fight.
I’m going to be kicking my streams into high gear soon. Focusing 75% of it on tournament builds, tournament play, the Warriors place in a tournament as well as fielding questions from the chat regarding Warriors.
I don’t think a class is solely good based on how many foes they can down in an allotted time, but rather what they bring to the team overall.
What we bring to the table is kind of our problem though isn’t it? Many of the roles in TPvP can often be better filled by another class. You could have your team build around having you but I’m not sure that’s the best option. Even when I do well in PvP I feel like I had the skill advantage, not that I was on equal ground.
I’ve been running a new build thats been relatively successful taking over the role of an Ele. Still testing but there is some wiggle room in warriors.
Granted we have an extremely up hill battle, but some things do work if you slam your head against the wall long enough to find a crack
Hey Defektive! Glad to see you are back in the game
Would love to see this “ele” build you are playing with. I wish I had the time and inclination to theorycraft and come up with new builds
Any idea when you will be posting it and will it be on the forums or your twitch page?
I still have some testing to do, and I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of warrior traits / skills etc. are about to change so I’m not putting a lot of effort into showing people the build just yet.
But when it’s ready I will :P
I’m going to be kicking my streams into high gear soon. Focusing 75% of it on tournament builds, tournament play, the Warriors place in a tournament as well as fielding questions from the chat regarding Warriors.
I don’t think a class is solely good based on how many foes they can down in an allotted time, but rather what they bring to the team overall.
What we bring to the table is kind of our problem though isn’t it? Many of the roles in TPvP can often be better filled by another class. You could have your team build around having you but I’m not sure that’s the best option. Even when I do well in PvP I feel like I had the skill advantage, not that I was on equal ground.
I’ve been running a new build thats been relatively successful taking over the role of an Ele. Still testing but there is some wiggle room in warriors.
Granted we have an extremely up hill battle, but some things do work if you slam your head against the wall long enough to find a crack
Nice find!
x15char
I’m going to be kicking my streams into high gear soon. Focusing 75% of it on tournament builds, tournament play, the Warriors place in a tournament as well as fielding questions from the chat regarding Warriors.
I don’t think a class is solely good based on how many foes they can down in an allotted time, but rather what they bring to the team overall.
Of course, just when I wanted to make a Sword/Warhorn+Longbow build.
I’ll be more than happy to provide you with such a build.
I love this game. It is a lot of fun and I enjoy playing my warrior. I just want to put some analysis into perspective. Warrior is not bad design. Everything else is just designed to counter it.
Correct-o-mundo.
I"m not saying the Warrior is ‘fine’ by any means, but the majority of you people act like you never win a battle.
I’m not even good at this game and I tend to win at least half of my 1v1 skirmishes in WvW or PvP, unless they are against classes that give EVERYONE difficulty (ie Thieves, Mesmers).
You’re giving Warriors a bad name with all the constant complaining. Yes, our class has problems. No, it’s not the terrible piece of kitten that you guys like to make it out to be. We’re still quite capable of taking down enemies.
I’ll agree with this sentiment except in tournaments. Right now we have no place in tournaments what so ever.
No way warriors are the greatest.
Don’t have an EU account, else I would coach again
I am going to put you down for the NA coach again which is happening at the end of the Month.
Can K Pop and I coach NA together? Like a two headed dragon shouting commands at plebs.
There is also a trait you guys are forgetting about: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
It is also on a good traitline spot.
I think it is there for a reason.
If you have to use a heal to get out of a snare then you’re going to get slapped down even harder because now you have no heal to fall back on.
I consider that trait to be counter productive to the Warrior class in general. Along with causing confusion on interrupt.
Pets are a part of the game. They’re not something from outerspace that give certain people superpowers or something.
Prove it.
I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.
Because these are two very different beasts.
id guess wvw; because of ‘roaming’ in the OP
Roaming is an sPvP term as well. It denotes a class / player whose job is to move between mid point and home/opponent point.
Essentially, highly mobile support role (either damage or damage mitigation based).
Historically, Thiefs / Ele’s / GS Warriors fit this niche.
I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.
Because these are two very different beasts.
I think the casters did a great job, but I do believe they need more experience with analysis.
I led the Academy of the Mists team for this past MMORPG Invitation. We were humbly invited to sign up by Bas and immediately knew we were out of our leagues to begin with, but in order to fill up the brackets in the short time, we were going to give it our best shot.
We are a new team, and have much less experience than any of the other teams. Given that, I was really looking forward to re-watching our matches to get more feedback on what we could have done better as a team. What types of plays we missed, and what types of engagements we should go for and not go for. What types of team comps we should’ve used. Etc.
However, that was not the case. In fact, I would probably never want to watch those horrid recorded minutes ever again in my life. I believe casters should respect all teams that play, no matter what. I can understand some fun in picking out some very bad plays, but almost the entire stream as a huge ‘You Guys Suck’ commentary, which is very discouraging to say the least to take that next step into becoming a better team.
I believe any team willing to compete should be given an equal, objective analysis. I assure you we weren’t trying to ‘troll’ the viewers or the other team in any of the plays we were doing. We wanted to try different tactics and we weren’t used to fighting such organized teams. It was also mostly my fault for not being able to manage the team that well. In addition, we were super nervous. It was our first tournament with 3k~ viewers.
Thanks for taking your time to cast Blu and Grouch. But I really hope you consider being more professional when less experienced teams start appearing in bigger tournaments.
Much respect for this post. The precedence the current casters set is going to define the future of casting for GW2. It only makes your point more valid. Casters take note.
What you said looks pretty much like it is a problem of some classes being too much powerful in something more then Warriors being weak, but probably they are two sides of the same coin.
That’s pretty much exactly it.
If warriors had a couple more easy to access ways of reducing conditions, possibly factoring in a way to trade adren for a protection boon. Ontop of other classes getting toned down slightly in their abilities – things would balance out (hopefully).
Personally, I think that Hammer warriors should be the future of the class but that would take some changes to the weapon mechanics (increased attack speed, resistance to blinds etc.).
Sorrow,
Warriors are weak because it simply comes down to one missing piece of the pizzaz puzzle.
Warriors don’t possess the ‘clutch’ ability to turn the tide of the fight past simply dealing high damage.
Unfortunately, in a high end tPvP environment, burst damage is easily mitigated by thorough planning and awareness of enemy placement.
Mesmers are often talked about on the forum so I’ll use them as a comparison:
The use of clones, blink and invisibility provide Mesmers with a high amount of survivability that doesn’t require them to build for toughness. When it comes to being ‘clutch’, such abilities like Portal and Blink allow for unique styles of play.
Example: While stomping you can blink to an enemy that has moved their downed state body.
Example 2: Using portal to provide rapid team movement across the map.
These ‘unique’ (to say the least) abilities evade the Warriors toolset. When teams look at us they say “what does class X bring to the table” all they see from Warriors is damage. Yet damage is something most classes bring to the table ontop of their existing extensive toolset.
Once you factor in Warriors susceptibility to conditions, lack of protection boons and their lack of a ‘clutch’ factor – other classes are chosen in our place.
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Warriors have some of the best mobility in the game especially if you specc for Mobile Strikes in the Discipline tree.
Mending benefits from having a shorter CD than Healing Surge. Most people don’t quite understand how to use it. You got to use it early, around 75%. This is about the time your enemy will have put their first stacks of conditions on you, if they are condition build. Mend at this time. Average fights last 30-45sec so you can estimate 1 Healing Surge per fight if you are like most average players and pop it around 50% hp, or the “oh kitten!” barrier. If you Mend early, you will be surprised at how beneficial the reduced CD is, and you can fit another heal into the fight which can save your kitten . Combo Mending with Shake it Off at appropriate intervals and you are looking at pretty good condition control.
If you plan to use Mending exactly how you would use Healing Surge, then yes you will come away from the fight thinking, “man that heal sucks”. If you retool your playstyle and make some adjustments to work to the skill’s strengths, then you will see significant improvement in it’s utility.
I prefer healing surge so I can get up to 100% adren before a fight even starts and have my healing cd reset.
However, I like to focus on builds that surround adren / F1 skills.
As a developer, depending on their DB architecture this can be both simple and difficult.
They already do this to an extent where zoning between PvP / PvE wields different builds. But depending on their current DB table relationships you may be asking them for a bigger task then what’s needed at this current moment in the games life cycle.
Contemplating coming back for this very reason… tournaments (while new) have given me renewed curiosity regarding this game.
But you quit. Here’s proof: http://www.twitch.tv/defektive/c/2075636
2 Months ago getting frustrated with the lack of Warrior changes.
Then they make Warrior changes.
Arena Net fulfills the requirement of why I left. It’s only logical to test the new changes to see if they are a valid reason to keep playing.
I’m not entirely convinced yet, but I’m keeping it as a possibility.
You should probably make a video of you reinstalling and make a post about it then.
Maybe I will and then you can watch it and comment on it on the forums.
If you come back, I am calling for dual warrior destruction.
Then you sir are going to get your wish. Going to give it try for a couple weeks for the hell of it.
We think that Warriors need more sustain in sPvP. You’ll see this reflected in upcoming balance changes.
Traits are huge in this, and just like you saw trait reworks recently for Warrior, we’ll be doing more trait changes to help to this end.
It’s Sunday, but I still wanted to jump in here to let you guys know we’re not ignoring you!
Finally an answer
That may be the start of the Warrior “new era” :P
Everyone here hope for some nice improvements in next 2 patches.
And if you need ideas, GW2 forums are full of themWe read the forums a lot more than you know. Karl/Peters and I actually print out threads sometimes and bring them to balance meetings.
We’re not ignoring any of the classes, I’m sorry if people feel that way. We simply don’t have time to personally post in all threads, on all our sub-forums.
Any chance you ever printed the tier list XD

That may be the start of the Warrior “new era” :P