Guild Wars 2

Atlas.9704:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Atlas.9704:

I’ll just blame whatever servers my own is fighting at the moment.
It is your fault, both of you. :P

“You had one job. You were supposed to make sure only Mist War recruits come in through the portals in Lion’s Arch. Now we got these trolling idiots squatting in a tower building god knows what with the supply . . . is . . . is that an airship?! Who knows this Aetherblade guild, is it some other server’s troll guild? Who the heck is this Scarlet person they say is the guild leader? A sylvari engineer? At least she’s not a ranger.”

Scarlet stands on the deck of her Airship and addressed her crew.
“Follow me! You will earn riches, power!”
No one cheers, her eyes turn into slits of anger.
“I said FOLLOW ME or I WILL kill you!”
Once again not a soul responds.
Exasperated, she turns on her Commander Blue Dorito.
Now the masses cheer, bow, and follow her into anything.

She must’ve heard how rich the PVE loot bags can be in WvW so she decided to entice them all to enter.

lordkrall.7241:

Novum.2395:

Since there isn’t any features being added in these 4 final patches why should there be a page to spoil even a bit of the story? The trailer is fine, but I DO expect them to go back to the old style after march 4th living story I think thats when the 4th one is.

To be fair I would say that a whole new map full with new mechanics is a rather large amount of features.

Same with the two bosses which both had new mechanics.

I do see your point, but calling it no new features is quite silly.

That brings up a good point though. The Developers said that these 4 patches would be LS. After that, a huge features type patch will come. I kinda assumed Balance updates, the Edge of The Mists and things like that would be in that big Features patch, but now we are getting it.

So what will come in this features patch? I guess we know it will be some new sPvP skills, the new Ferocity stat, and some reworks of sigils and runes, unless of course those will come too before March-ish.. What will be coming though? Hmmmmm

Shiren.9532:

Delvoire.8930:

All of this has been in the gameplay.. for the last 15 months.

This was merely a way for new people or people who had no idea what was going on, to get clued in.

This isn’t a re-playable single player game or multi-player game.. It’s an ever growing MMO.

Would you like a replay of the Karka Event that happened a few months after the game released? Perhaps this time you can save the lighthouse?

That’s an exaggeration. A good chunk of the exposition being handed out in the last two patches comes from the short stories from the website (“What Scarlet Saw” in particular), not the game.

One of those said patches was in the game nearly 2 months ago…

Yes, more was added in for the last patch but honestly the fact that the short story was a basis for the information doesn’t matter. Every time you log into the game there is an area that shows you the newest updates/news for the game. When Scarlet’s Story was released, a link for that story was there for all to see. The people who came after that, yes they were left out.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

Terrific pictures! I’ll have to see if I got a decent one.

Not to derail the thread, but why isn’t there an in-game email telling people about this wonderful instance? I have friends who didn’t know about it and I only stumbled across it because I read forums.

The yellow instance marker on the LA is WAY too easy to miss, there should be an email directing people there.

The upper right UI where the “quests” are, tell you about meeting up with your friends in LA. If you click on that it actually opens the map and shows you were to go on it.

skullmount.1758:

Delvoire.8930:

I guess ANET decided 2014 will be the year of teaser videos instead of preview pages.

Thats what I’ve gathered. I don’t like it, since we had more info about the patches with the preview/release pages. Hopefully they go back to those, especially with the new format on the release pages.

Yeah. It was something to look forward too on non patch Tuesdays.

I guess ANET decided 2014 will be the year of teaser videos instead of preview pages.

Beorn Raukar.4328:

Arleii.5304:

I just want some story instances…Hope it will be more than just new WvW map.

From the Massively article it sounds like there will be a couple of story instances that reveal more about scarlet’s plan.

Yeah, it sounded like there will be some side stuff to do with Jory and Kasmeer at the Dead End.

Send the Aetherblades into the mist and have them build the air ship. Problem solved

KOPPER.1458:

I was very unhappy when you forced scarlet into fractals, this make me just as unhappy. I have recently become more of a fan of the LS and how AN has been telling more of the story. But really dislike when you release a new feature, a new map in this case and force her into it. If it was part of the world, then I would understand. But this is a new wvw map. Why is she involved? I am sure there is a story there as to what she has to do with it, but why does it have to be that way?

Because she’s been trying to harness the Mists for a while now….. Something to do with her plan..

Victory.2879:

So basically EoTM looked like it was quite nice, so the LS juggernaut has grabbed it and thrown wvw players in the trash again?

Seriously, EoTM was supposed to be a much needed update to WVW, not some crappy addition to the LS storyline filled with loads of pve monsters…oh well, gave up believing anything ANet said a long time ago, so I shouldn’t be surprised really.

So instead of saying BAM! Here’s a new map, they instead decide to incorporate this into the story of the game and try to draw as many players as possible into it, instead of the niche group of WvW’ers. Yeah.. That’s just crazy talk.

Redball.7236:

Delvoire.8930:

The questions that concern me though, what about low pop servers that don’t hit a que? Will they never be able to see that map? What happens if people enjoy that map/play more than they do the WvW maps. Will the WvW maps then become less filled?

When you enter EOTM, you’re assigned to one of three servers depending on your colour. That means you’ll be paired up with all the people in other matches that are “Red” that week for example.

This means that there won’t ever really be a population issue since you’ll be playing with and against people from all the other servers in your region (EU can’t fight NA).

Wow. That’s awesome and thanks for the Info. So essentially on the EOTM map you’ll be mixed with other servers? I like that.

Thanks to everyone who answered some of my questions I posted earlier. It definitely sounds like this map will be fun and well used/needed.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Wv3 players want Wv3 on their maps. I think that concept is easy enough to be understood.
Scarlet and LS sound horribly PvE to me, and PvE crowd does not necessarily mix well with Wv3 PvPers.

PvEers will feel ganked and PvPers will feel like the update is not focused on them, even though they waited forever for it to happen. Sounds about right to make everyone unhappy. Good…

Maybe the real problem is in the players themselves. Perhaps they shouldn’t pigeon hole themselves into one play style and just enjoy the game from every aspect. It’s a crazy thought… but it’s one I personally explore myself. It’s lead to thousands of hours of game play fun.

SeNoZinD.9874:

Scarlet is now in wvw. *claps slowly

Scarlet has been in WvW for months.. where have you been? slow clap

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

1. I don’t see the Pay 2 Win in it since I have already got a Sprocket lode in my home.
2. I am probably going to get one since I need a infinete mining pick.
3. I was pretty sure something like this where comming when seeing this rare Sprocket crafting thing that costs 500 sprockets to make.
4. For some reason I don’t think Scarlet minion attacks will stop even after scarlet LS, maby it will be remoduled to be interesting again.
5. Sprockets are not gone yet, don’t write doomsday on your calendar just yet but I see your point (Your = People who’s opinion it is pay2win).

Has anyone said what that Sprocket thing is?

I too, don’t really understand this thread. You have the Sprocket Node which isn’t very hard to get. Just do either the wurm or the Marionette 11 days in a row and BAM you have the node.

Not sure where the dilemma is. The Sprockets also don’t make any one player > then another.

Contact Customer Support and submit a bug..

How awesome would a 1st person view be though? I’ve always wanted to be able to look around the area in a 1st person view.

I also enjoy the Living Story and it’s current format. I’ve honestly never had an issue with it at all. It’s great to have new content streaming in to make the game fresh and enjoyable week after week.

I’ve played SWTOR and DCUO before GW2. Both lost my attention pretty quickly once I got to end game. Why? The raid grinding was a little meh and once you did your weekly raid, there was just about nothing else to do…

digiowl.9620:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

And thus, the hate for Scarlet diminishes by a bit.

If only it had not taken half a year to get to this point…

It’s called a slow burn

I have a few questions with Edge of the Mists. Concerns really since I heard of it’s implementation.

As I understand it, Edge of the Mists is an infinite created map that will house players while they wait for WvW maps to let them in. It will have it’s own scoring system that will be separate from the PPT of WvW. That all sounds great.

The questions that concern me though, what about low pop servers that don’t hit a que? Will they never be able to see that map? What happens if people enjoy that map/play more than they do the WvW maps. Will the WvW maps then become less filled?

Did they also make this Edge of the Mists map so they can throw LS stuff into the WvW scene but without all the backlash from the WvW players?

Bring Scarlet back from her death C’mon, we all know she’s gonna die in a few weeks!

As long as it’s not more SAB. Kinda over that. Didn’t even do it once when it returned.

Ayrilana.1396:

I find it strange that people can fail on the first and second wardens when those can easily be duo’d. They hardly directly attack you. Win or fail is determined purely on understanding the mechanics.

Well.. the Wardens do scale to the amount of people on the platform. Theoretically they can be Solo’d as well.

Ren.5842:

Hi Mark,

Makes a lot of sense, but in terms of getting community feedback, I doubt most forum goers would trawl subforums unless they know there’s something there of interest. Surely it encourages less community feedback to suggestions overall?

It does make sense.

Perhaps something for the community in the form of a suggestions area like the Developer Comments area. A stream of the suggestions and then people can click the link to go to that thread?

Yeah, I’m not getting the error any longer.

Xukavi.4320:

Delvoire.8930:

Sublimatio.6981:

Pale Tree has new dialogue

Where do you talk to the Pale Tree at?

Go to The Grove (sylvari main city) and there should be a pod that takes you up to where she is. Same place you go to when you do the Personal Story mission to talk to her.

Oh thanks. I haven’t been there in soooooooo long. Not since I last did the early story missions for my Sylvari toon haha.

Minae Iss.7054:

It could work with numbered overflows. Sorted on number of players. Ingame a menu like this:

• Main 150/150 players full
• Overflow 1 150/150 players You are currently in this overflow
• Overflow 2 120/150 players Click to join this overflow
• Overflow 3 60/150 players Click to join this overflow

So lets say you are in overflow 2, doing the event. After the event the maps start empting. Once a certain treshold is reached (let’s say 20 players) you get an ingame message that lets you travel to a higher overflow. This is similair to the current message, but it just lets you go to a more full overflow, not per se directly to the main.

This message is also timed , but instead of just going away you will be forced into a higher overflow, this way AFK’ers won’t endlessly hold overflows open. You can however always freely travel between existing overflows.

New players are always put into the fullest available overflow. The overflows get resorted if they change in numbers so the highest overflow in the list is always the fullest. Once the lowest fills op to the cap ( the normal cap at wich overflows now start to be made, not the hardcap) the next overflow is created.

You also always have the option to go to an overflow even if your main is not full. Low population servers can so get too a fuller overflow if they wish.

So similar to the sPvP server menu.

That actually sounds like a great idea.

aspirine.6852:

Delvoire.8930:

aspirine.6852:

On desolation we did lane 5 pretty easy with 15 people. Hard hitting ok but still only 15.

There is one thing I still do not get, perhaps I have not read it right. We did lane five and got called that a previous lane did not succeed and we were ready to use the portal to the platform. Now the next thing I did not understand, I got portalled to a different platform than my teammate. Is this how it works when a previous lane fails, you randomly get portalled to a platform? If so that explains why we had so few people on each platform.

When you go into the portal it splits everyone up randomly. Think of the 5 platforms as card players at a Poker Table. The players get split between the platforms like cards being dealt to card players. 1 here, 1 here, 1 here and so on. The chances of making it to the same platform as your party members is slim, especially if you only have 15 people entering.

Really? That sounds insane, what kind of non gamer would think of such a terrible way to split players.

…. It sounds pretty logical to me. You would essentially have even amounts of people on all platforms aside from the last one being dealt. The Developers have said though that there are occurrences that can happen that would negate this. If someone DC’s while being sent to a platform or WP’s it causes a problem with the script or program.

The biggest issue with Warden 2 is the people who get aggro and then proceed to run in a GIANT circle. This ruins the chance of the chain succeeding.

lordkrall.7241:

PeterThomas.7243:

I remember those days. And in those days, games were packed with manuals that explained how to play it.

Basic tips how to play yes, but they didn’t explain every single encounter. The explained how to move more or less, and the rest you had to figure out yourself.

People today seems to want to be given exact instructions how to do something which makes me question why they play games at all rather than just watch a movie or letting someone else play.

So much in agreement with LordKrall that it’s not even funny. I remember the days of playing RPG’s and having NO idea where to go at times. Eventually you found the way with enough exploring.

I used to use gamefaqs.com for the longest time to help me go through games that may have given too much trouble. Game Genie/Game Shark and Walkthroughs helped make Gamers lazy…. it’s sad.

I use Dulfy now, but only to make getting the achievements done easier for the tips. I don’t need Dulfy to know what’s going on in the story or where to go next. That stuff is in game. As another said, the UI shows you where to go and tells you the basics of what you need to do.

I’ve completed the Marionette event ONLY on overflows. There is no guarantee that you will win on your native server.

Also, what’s wrong with overflow? Instead of just playing with people from your own server, you are playing with a larger base of the GW2 community. I personally like that.

It was mentioned somewhere that Taimi is Zojja’s apprentice or something like that. I’ve not heard Taimi mention Zojja once though. I’d be curious to know if Zojja can be found in the open world and perhaps she can shed some light. If she has no clue who Taimi is..then yes..it is strange that she just showed up out of nowhere and now is an important NPC.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Delvoire.8930:

Perhaps the OP should explain how the developers can merge the Overflows?

[…]

what could ANET do? Do they just force people to merge into an overflow server? How would that work? Disconnect that player and have them reload into the zone? Perhaps when they WP they have to reload into the zone?

I mean no offense but it appears to me that you haven’t actually read the original posting beyond the first two sentences:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Please come up with a way to merge overflows together (for instance via pop-up… “travel to higher populated overflow”) or always place people into the highest populated overflow when they enter a map.

I assume that overflows, right now, exist as long as a single player is still on the map. When you enter a map, you appear to be placed in a random overflow (I’ve been overflow-hopping a lot, hoping to get into one that even has a chance at the boss fight.)

Ouch. yeah I did miss the Pop Up thing in the OP. The other option though, that should be how the overflows work. Only a developer could chime in on that unfortunately.

I keep getting the Service Unavailable Error when browsing and posting on the Forums. If I refresh a couple times, it seems to correct. That only lasts a few minutes though.

When it happens it goes to a white screen with the following text;

Service Unavailable

HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.

Sublimatio.6981:

Pale Tree has new dialogue

Where do you talk to the Pale Tree at?

All of this has been in the gameplay.. for the last 15 months.

This was merely a way for new people or people who had no idea what was going on, to get clued in.

This isn’t a re-playable single player game or multi-player game.. It’s an ever growing MMO.

Would you like a replay of the Karka Event that happened a few months after the game released? Perhaps this time you can save the lighthouse?

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

digiowl.9620:

they pretty much can’t.

Please elaborate on how “they can’t”.

What’s wrong with the suggestions from the OP? (Please answer)

This is not about how overflows are created, but what happens with nearly empty overflows many hours later.

Right now they aren’t “managed” at all. I think they need to be.

Perhaps the OP should explain how the developers can merge the Overflows?

As someone else said, the overflows start once the first server is full.. and then that overflow begins to fill. EVERY server ends up using the same overflows, but once those cap a new one is created.

Essientually there should be only 1 overflow that MAY not have enough people in it for the event. All others should be full. If there are people who are AFKing or camping out in an overflow and keeping that one open for hours and even days, what could ANET do? Do they just force people to merge into an overflow server? How would that work? Disconnect that player and have them reload into the zone? Perhaps when they WP they have to reload into the zone?

It seems the complaint is that people are holding overflows and somehow getting a low number of people back into them after the event has taken place. I’m not sure how that could be solved honestly. I’m also not a game developer though.

aspirine.6852:

On desolation we did lane 5 pretty easy with 15 people. Hard hitting ok but still only 15.

There is one thing I still do not get, perhaps I have not read it right. We did lane five and got called that a previous lane did not succeed and we were ready to use the portal to the platform. Now the next thing I did not understand, I got portalled to a different platform than my teammate. Is this how it works when a previous lane fails, you randomly get portalled to a platform? If so that explains why we had so few people on each platform.

When you go into the portal it splits everyone up randomly. Think of the 5 platforms as card players at a Poker Table. The players get split between the platforms like cards being dealt to card players. 1 here, 1 here, 1 here and so on. The chances of making it to the same platform as your party members is slim, especially if you only have 15 people entering.

At least now we know it can be done

Gratz to Deso

FenrirSlakt.3692:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

It seems that the biggest servers and guilds have gotten the strategy for wurm down pretty well, but the DPS is slightly lacking… like 5-10% lacking…

Has anyone considered making an ascended only zerker/soldier guild? if you can get 100 players who have 10+ pieces of ascended I think the dps problem would be solved. The problem with TTS and BG is that they let anyone participate, thus severely hampering their own DPS.

I personally don’t have the time or fortitude to organize such a guild, but I would be happy to join one if someone else does. The easiest way to do it would be to have people ping their gear and then kill a lvl 80 vet within a certain time constraint. If they meet both criteria then they are in.

First off, it’s not as easy as it sounds. Between the timezones and frictions, that kind of guild would probably crumble.
Secondly, it’s not that we lack DPS so sorely, it’s more about scaling issues.
Thirdly, Soldier/Zerker only would fail the event badly.

It wouldn’t be a bad idea to have 15 on each wurm with full ascended DPS gear for the final phase. Zerk works on that phase.

Oh wow…….

The Marionette does have a certain timer. Every odd hour. Shame on you for popping your guild event in this window

Blade Syphon.4325:

I’m sorry, but did I read the Anet dev’s post correct in that they intended to make it so that groups could help others out, but it didn’t make it into the release due to technical restraints?

So..the fight was designed with that in mind, but due to this ridiculous two week release schedule, the development team didn’t have time to fine tune the encounter and iron out the kinks to make sure this feature went live?

If this was intended to make us feel better, I would say it’s done the opposite. No we more or less know that content is rushed out, finished or not, to meet this ridiculous 2-week schedule.

Stop it. Just. Stop. It. If this is the result of the two week release cycle, it needs to end.

The LS was rotating content releases. So if that’s the case, they would have had about 6 weeks.. plus the 5 weeks between the last two patches. Sounds like it was just more trouble than it was worth?

The event CAN be completed. There just are some rarities.

Scarlet seems keen on Braham?

Amok Threeohthree.8501:

Instead of keep saying that you have already explained your statement (which you haven’t) you could try and actually answer the question. or just admit that your statement was wrong?

Here is where they explained it.

Heibi.4251:

Ace.1726:

Zanshin.5379:

The elitism is strong in this boss event.
The simple fact that you have to be invited to the correct overflow server is prooof enough. And then there’s the elitists in this thread saying it’s ok if a content is only doable by 10% of the players.

There should absolutely be content that only 10 percent of the players can do.

Then ANeT is ignoring 90% of it’s customer base. Not a very good business model. If ANeT creates content it should be doable by and for all. Hard content is great, but it shouldn’t require hard-capping the zone population. I believe our server finally took down Teq just last weekend. It took that long and a little help to complete it. The event otherwise remains pointless and unused 99% of the time. That means the content that was created was a waste of ANeT effort. A little less ridiculous champ scaling and less reliance on huge numbers would’ve made the Teq encounter a more enduring event. A higher chance of success by players would have kept them coming back. But the failure rate is just too high and it takes too much pre-coordination.

Unfortunately the wurm event will fall even more quickly into this category. Players will guest to other servers that will eventually succeed and never do it on their own server ever again. Our server is still trying to do it, but I believe interest will soon fall sharply. The marionette event is the only new content that is enjoyable so far. People actually enjoy it, even if we fail. Too bad it will go away all too soon.

So in that logic it’s the 10% that have been ignored the entire time but now have something to hang their hat one.

I’m upset right now because i’ve had to devote most of my time trying to kill the Wurm and thus having to complete ignore the Marionette

This is ludicrous.

phys.7689:

Kilandros.2098:

What I’m saying is don’t knock the guy for airing legitimate complaints—particularly if he’s from an underpopulated server. Since we both agree that PvE isn’t really difficult, and that the barrier to these events tends to be a combination of numbers and coordination, you should empathize with players who want to attempt this content but don’t have the hours and hours this type of stuff tends to take.

Instead you unfairly targeted him for what you perceived as a lack of skill when in reality it could very well be a lack of play time. Many of us with jobs can empathize quite well with that.

Anyway, this is going nowhere, and a Mod should have deleted/locked/Re-titled this thread long ago. Cheers all.

these events take 15-30 minutes, failing the event doesnt count as it taking hours and hours, thats just not beating the game. As people get better, and used to the content, they will be able to show up and beat the event in like 20 minutes, much as I have with tequatl. You are not GUARANTEED a win though, that will depend on the performance of everyone there.

In fairness, the time he is speaking of is the time spent waiting on the event itself. I personally have spent over 4 hours waiting in an overflow to make just 2 attempts. That was my choice and I was happy to do it. Others don’t feel that same way. To me, that’s the nature of the beast. All I can do is try to persaude others that they may want to give this a shot. If they refuse to though, that’s their decision.

In the same token, I don’t feel that this event should just pop at an hour and hope that the people are there to take it on. I feel that waiting for this event to take place is all part of the challenge and event itself.

Auto Running into walls breaks this camels back. I’ve seen it going on so often. The first time I saw it in LA near the bank I just thought someone was glitched or a broken bot. Then I kept seeing them, all the while asking myself why people were doing that. I once even jumped up to auto run with them thinking perhaps it was a new fad.

Sadly, and I hate to admit this, it took me a long while to realize just WHY these people were auto-running into walls…

Kilandros.2098:

I think what the guy was talking about with regard to Liadri was that he isn’t a player who’s afraid of a challenge. He said he liked Liadri. But unlike Liadri, he’s saying that he basically has neither the time nor the server population to organize a massive event he’d like to participate in.

Time is one thing, but server Pop should not be. Even if there isn’t the masses or coordination, there are servers and communities that are thriving off this right now. Join TTS or DV. Guest to BG or another server actively trying to win. If you’ve found yourself on a map where people don’t care to really win or don’t want to join with their fellow GW2 players in an attempt to win, then put yourself in a position where you are surrounded by those people.

I play on Fort Aspenwood. It’s a large server with plenty of pop. The problem is, they don’t really care to take on World Bosses like this. Teq is never done and these two new events aren’t being done really either. The coordination is just not there. I’ve been to a few Marionette fights on the server and they’ve failed miserably. I have beaten it though.. on an Overflow. It’s exactly why I joined TTS months ago. For a battle like this, I want communication and coordination. It wasn’t near me, so I actively reached out and found it.

Kilandros.2098:

Clearly you and Vols have hours upon hours to kill waiting in main or an organized overflow to happen. But for those of us who log in after 6 or 7pm that isn’t gonna happen. And that sucks.

I don’t have hours upon hours. I have a job and children. In rather good timing, my ex took our kids on a vacation and thus gave me one as well I don’t log in until 6-7PM EST as well, but now I’m currently devoting that time to these two boss encounters. Since I bet Marionette, I’m working on Wurm now. This is for the simple fact that I’ve become bored with the daily GW2 stuff I was doing. Daily Dungeon runs for gold, farming champs, crafting all crafts to 500 (2 to go!), Daily Achievements, AFKing in LA, Guild Events. Most of this was becoming a little stale. Wintersday was over for me around Dec. 26th and I’ve been chomping at the bits for something new to do. These two events have succeeded in doing that for me.

Metaseven.5932:

Desolation kitten ed out at 20:00

NEVER GIVE UP!!!!

Just watched the Live Stream of BG’s try. I was really hoping to watch a victory.

digiowl.9620:

Most of them show up in the story instance in LA.

Mhmm. I mean apart from that.

I’ll be going around and checking some common areas to see if they show up elsewhere. I’ll also strike up a convo with Evon to see if he’s still going on about a future attack on LA.

Heibi.4251:

Delvoire.8930:

Heibi.4251:

Ace.1726:

Zanshin.5379:

The elitism is strong in this boss event.
The simple fact that you have to be invited to the correct overflow server is prooof enough. And then there’s the elitists in this thread saying it’s ok if a content is only doable by 10% of the players.

There should absolutely be content that only 10 percent of the players can do.

Then ANeT is ignoring 90% of it’s customer base. Not a very good business model. If ANeT creates content it should be doable by and for all. Hard content is great, but it shouldn’t require hard-capping the zone population. I believe our server finally took down Teq just last weekend. It took that long and a little help to complete it. The event otherwise remains pointless and unused 99% of the time. That means the content that was created was a waste of ANeT effort. A little less ridiculous champ scaling and less reliance on huge numbers would’ve made the Teq encounter a more enduring event. A higher chance of success by players would have kept them coming back. But the failure rate is just too high and it takes too much pre-coordination.

Unfortunately the wurm event will fall even more quickly into this category. Players will guest to other servers that will eventually succeed and never do it on their own server ever again. Our server is still trying to do it, but I believe interest will soon fall sharply. The marionette event is the only new content that is enjoyable so far. People actually enjoy it, even if we fail. Too bad it will go away all too soon.

Was ANET yelled at for Liadra and that hard content? That was presented to the community as something only 10% of players would accomplish, even though more did end up beating her. That was welcomed with open arms and actually even more people cheered on ANET to make more content like that.

As others have said, there is plenty of open world easy things to do in this game. What’s the resistance for something that is actually hard?

If you don’t like it.. then go do the hundreds of other things that are at your disposal to do.

But Liadri was based on individual performance. Not a good comparison. Much like the Mad King’s puzzle – very individual based. You don’t need a maxed out zone and 1 hour of coordination to do such content.

But why not take those individual experiences that people were enjoying and put it on a larger canvas. Look at the Marionette threads for this working exactly like that. People cheering each other on and feeling a sense of gratitude and accomplishment when they are the last alive in an arena and win their fight for the whole community in the battle. Those are awesome moments.

As for the zone.. Who went to Bloodtide Coast before this? Only people heading to the Order of Whispers or doing Map Completion, that’s about it. Otherwise this is a dead zone. There are no dungeons and no timer related world bosses that people would always do. We have so many empty zones, why is a great boss fight like this met with such resistance?

This has made a dead zone fill up with overflows for days now. In my humble opinion, this is awesome.