Guild Wars 2

It’s so easy a Caveman can do it!

DanH.5879:

Doggie.3184:

Meow.

“Thief
Thieves are the masters of mobility, stealth and high single target damage. They can be very fragile if you counter their stealth with area of effects or large stacks of conditions, but they trade this fragility in order to have some of the highest burst damage in the game. They are able to help allies through traps, venoms and the mobility to flank most encounters.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-December-14-2012/first#post1061889

a bunch of lies, pve wise:
1.traps suck big time
2.venoms have to small range for sharing
3.burst is meh
4.dps is far behind a warrior
5.mobility is NOT so very good without 15 in acrobatics
6.let’s say that the lowest hp/med armor combo compensates with stealth to stay alive, but the new “dont drop agro on stealth mechanic make things difficult”
7.almost NO boons, no team support except stealth res
8.blindness ineffective at bosses, also 1/2 duration of vulnerability&weakness
9.shared initiative system on all weapons

warrior:
1.banners 600 range: 2 super boons up for everyone in party !
2.invulnerability
3.top dps
4.highest hp/heavy armor
5.good condition remover (remove 1 condition on shout+ Shake It Off!=2 on 1 skill, Mending-remove 2 conditions then heal etc.)-contrary to “low condition removal” stated by a-net
6.good bursts
7.boons like 3 might stacks and fury for everyone in party
8.mobility via rush and other skills
9.switching weaponsets you get fresh skills

etc.
HAHAHA

It’s not lies, just development failure.

ZBeeblebrox.4928:

Doggie.3184:

I wish there were some pics of the armor sets.

I wish there WERE some new armor sets. All we have gotten since release is new weapon sets, plus an occasional random armor piece like the Fused Gauntlets. I’m good on weapons. My weapons are cool. Know what I still hate? My thief’s ugly medium armor and all the other ugly medium armor. Where’s the armor love?

Although, note, if you’re just going to make an armor set with creepy blinking eyes on it, Anet, then by all means, continue just making weapon sets. No interest in that.

Well there’ll probably be a full fused set and apparently some gem store skins in future.
Wish they’d add more hide toggles though like they did to celebrate the gloves so I don’t have to worry about medium trenchcoats anymore.

Sword has some awesome survival, annoyance and agility now. It has no burst though and still has difficulty taking down some sustain builds.

Zeoli.3402:

Actually the next nerf will be to p/p lol. Just joking… Or am i?

Considering what happened to caltrops and shortbow it wouldn’t be surprising they nerf more random things like p/p.

Cloak and Dagger isn’t OP because it’s actually often difficult to land in a WvW skirmish unless you’re fighting a moron, someone left handed, a keyboard turner or someone with an awful PC.

Sunflowers.1729:

Because WvW.

Thieves are bad in sPvP, where certain constraints are put on gameplay (less burst, stealth stops point capping), but are ridiculous in WvW, especially at roaming.

It’s like if you reduce 100blades damage, and warriors ask “but we suck in sPvP, so why nerf us more?” The nerf isn’t targeted at sPvP – everyone agrees that GS warriors are amazing for PvE, so the damage can be reduced to what other classes are capable of.

Besides, the last patch didn’t even nerf Thieves; in fact there were a lot of buffs.

Woulda been the first awesome patch for Thief if not for Shortbow being so buggy now. Sword/Dagger is pretty fun now when all of it’s Weapon Skills are actually useful. Now if only the rest of our flawed, dull or useless skills would get revamped.

I want more Slingshot-type Shortbows.

I wish there were some pics of the armor sets.

kokiman.2364:

This looks extremely creepy for some reason

What? You don’t want a living weapon for a pet?
The Shortbow is kinda creepy though because I don’t think it blinks. It just stares. :o unless it’s just that way for me when I previewed.

IMO there should be a title attached to every legendary that is unique to which one it was.

I just have one~ the one I wanted most. Too burnt out to work on a 2nd one. x.x

It’s my immune system’s weakness.

MrForz.1953:

randomfightfan.4091:

^
Didn’t hear a single word of them saying they wouldn’t be able to have the highest single target dps. They are supposed to have the highest mobility (sadly aren’t there yet) and highest burst (also don’t have). Doesn’t look like what is supposed to be, is.

Mobility I could almost understand, but for the rest: high =/= highest, and you have Doggie’s text strapped on your face this time.

Time to move on.

Master of high single target damage sounds like Highest to me. Sure doesn’t say Warriors are a master of it.

They’re cute.

Living World, meet Living Weapons?

Cuz it’s the best way to deal the most damage, tons of utilities revolve around it and the playstyle doesn’t force us to leap all over the place or fly off cliffs.

Meow.

“Thief
Thieves are the masters of mobility, stealth and high single target damage. They can be very fragile if you counter their stealth with area of effects or large stacks of conditions, but they trade this fragility in order to have some of the highest burst damage in the game. They are able to help allies through traps, venoms and the mobility to flank most encounters.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-December-14-2012/first#post1061889

Maybe it just needs better bullets. Armor Piercing, Incineration and Explosive bullets.

I’d like if it shot further since Shortbow seems to outrange it cuz of projectile difference~ which has always annoyed me since beta.

Auesis.7301:

This isn’t a small discrepancy, though, Artificer. It’s HUGE. Not even a close contest. I play both, and the amount of damage my Warrior can put out without being full Berserker compared to my D/D backstab Thief in full Berserker on a single target makes me cry.

This even goes for Conditions too if you ever tried 1H Sword. Warrior DMG is just too insane and too easy compared to Thief and they’re more durable w/o even trying. (I play 80 Thief and 80 Warrior too). They mine as well make Dagger an AOE too since I think high single target DPS is going to be a Taboo thing. Thief is my fav still but there’s so much unsatisfaction in this class~ the constant nerfs that create more bugs and broken skills doesn’t help.

It shouldn’t be 4s at all anywhere imo. But oh well, I don’t play in the Mist much, it’s not as fun as GW1’s PvP Arenas. (note the plural-ness.) :<

Add Broken Combo Projectiles and Broken Shadow Protector Trait.

also Caltrops don’t need more nerfs considering how fast/easy other classes can spam bleed. Such as Warrior.

I often used Choking Gas and Smoke Screen with my Thief to shoot poison and blind projectiles with my Shortbow. Currently they rarely work, if at all. I lay down Smoke Screen and shoot through it and sometimes it may proc a blind arrow on 1st or 2nd shot and then any shots after that don’t work. Sometimes it doesn’t work at all- period. Same with Poison Field.

I tried it in several situations including firing on flat ground, uphill and downhill~ it’s broken. It works more often when the enemy is in melee range or if I shoot through the wall width wise so maybe the arrow shots are bugged and not the fields? idk. Shadow Refuge isn’t failing combos as much, but Pistol bullets are failing to combo too. It worked flawlessly before patch; every projectile proc’d poison/blind/etc.

It’d be completely illogical to add a new mining tier that the gem tools wouldn’t harvest, as a lot of people would be furious, so I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t be worrying about it.

Wow I never noticed that. I’d prefer the color to match my hair color though.
So the carpet would match the drapes, y’know? ;s

Charrs don’t eat salads and if it wasn’t for knowing that my Sylvari was in fact extremely delicious with ranch dressing I’d be offended.

Ugh, whats with all the text? Just keep hitting them when they’re in stealth. ~.~

new armor skins, swimshorts and a craft/forge anywhere tables o.o

Hope new armor is sexy.

and… HATS! Hopefully this game will eventually have as many as TF2.

My main (Thief) is Night. Gray skin, dark red hair, orange eyes, dark blue glow.
Why? Those are my favorite colors and I prefer the night time. The whole concept matches well.

My Necro is Dusk. Darker gray skin, red glow, black hair.
and Ranger is Dawn. White skin and light blue for glow, spikes, and eyes.

They are all ‘Winter.’

It needs to spawn super adventure box clouds at your feet that create rainbow paths.

I think the only game that I recall ever adding a hide toggle on every single equip piece was Runes of Magic. Was a pretty cool feature. There’s not much reason to hide pants though. Hiding chest piece would cure my Thief of his trenchcoat/skirt curse.

Those kitten fearbombs.

Zikory.6871:

Hidden killer its self wasn’t changed. You get 100% crit chance when attacking from stealth.

If I understand the patch notes on C&D and hidden killer. If you were C&D while stealth it was not effected by hidden killer and you were not granted 100% crit chance. Now if you are stealth (traited with hidden killer) and C&D some one, it will crit 100% of the time. Not sure why you would C&D out of stealth but I think it was more of a bug fix.

So that’s what it meant. I’ve never C&D outa stealth so I never noticed or knew what it was talking about. XD I though “Didn’t they fix that already?”

They could always just give us our 75% block chance skills back from GW1. :P

Well if you think about it~ it just makes trick shot even trickier cuz the trick will be on us as well. Would be nice if they boosted it to 1200 range if it’s that easy to dodge since we’re still the only ones w/o 1200.

I think it’s just most classes are just doing more damage now cuz of the signet buffs and whatever else? 100% more stats on warrior signets? I haven’t tried any Spvp yet though. It’d be easier for the squishiest class in the game to notice becoming even squishier when everyone else starts hitting harder.

I knew a Shortbow nerf was coming! It’s obvious they’d not only nerf our most balanced weapon but they always have to pick a random Thief skill to nerf every patch to confuse us. It’s hard to guess which though cuz it’s usually one we had no idea needed changed.

I still prefer D/D. Now they need to make Death Blossom cooler.

Should make Chest piece hide-able too.

He just wants his ranger to make sense, cosmetically, in early creation.
Nothing wrong with that.

Coffietire.2783:

Doggie.3184:

Coffietire.2783:

smeen.4237:

I’m not giving you weird looks. I’m a girl and I think my female Sylvari is the sexiest PC I have.

Caithe and Trahearne are also pretty sexy. I think that the Sylvari are pretty kitten hot.

Treahearne
Get out

Treahearne is a massive stud.

Maybe I’m just bitter because of our whole thing with Caladbolg.
“Hey!” says Treahearne, “thanks for getting that sword back from an exploiting pit fighter through a many 1 vs 1 match, I’m just going to use it mkay?”

Because he needed that sword to purify Orr, as It’s part of the ritual, in which only Trahearne knows how to do. :<
You should stop being jealous of his destiny and embrace his sexy. Let yourself enjoy watching his muscles flex and sparkle as he swings his giant sword.

Coffietire.2783:

smeen.4237:

I’m not giving you weird looks. I’m a girl and I think my female Sylvari is the sexiest PC I have.

Caithe and Trahearne are also pretty sexy. I think that the Sylvari are pretty kitten hot.

Treahearne
Get out

Treahearne is a massive stud.

Thief, so I can strike hard and deep regardless of size and girth.

Malice is more-so a PvE skill and isn’t too great in PvP compared to the others. I personally don’t like withdraw because I can’t control the direction I want it to go, and you can’t use it on ledges, JPs and etc. Hide in Shadows pretty much heals you to full HP and gives you stealth+ buffs depending on traits.

Tempest Darqmane.4862:

So, I see the devs themselves aren’t fans of Sword/Dagger.

They want thief to be a ranged class it seems. But with only 1 decent ranged weapon.

dudikoff.3645:

Well, at least it is a fixed price item. Not random BLC kitten. So I bought it.

Yeah, they coulda put the pick into the BLC as an impossible chance drop, then it woulda really sucked, so thank Dwayna for that.

I like the current one better. Now what?

I’d be like what, lol? too. Maybe you just made him feel inadequate somehow cuz he was an awful typist or had a bad experience with periods? :/ Usually people complain about bad grammar. Or cut themselves when they see the word “ur,” because they’re insane.

Another person suffering from their old MMO addiction. Trinities are not needed anymore and were always a bland idea. It’s nice as a general outline but having to rely on specific classes to help you do stuff is boring/annoying. Thus GW2 was born to fix this. Other new MMOs have been shying away from the Trinity as well. It’s evolution.

Sylvari have a hidden passive trait called “Masters of Sexy.”
That would explain what you’re experiencing.

I’m kinda scared of them adding another attention hording Heavy class. Warrior and Guardian stole all their shouts anyways though. They need to fix all the neglected medium classes. I’d love if they returned throwing spears, and allowed my Thief to use them. Was a fun weapon in GW1 with my Assassin. They could rename them to Javelins. That and add more Paragon styled armor. Those legs!

Nike.2631:

I can live with the 4 second reveals.

I die over and over again because “stealth no longer clears the agro table” makes the DOWNED stealth skills COMPLETELY WORTHLESS. It’s worse than having no button for it all all, because staring at it thinking it’ll do something if only you could get it off is false hope that distracted you from the 25% fewer tools you actually have. This is a true for Mesmers as it is for Thieves.

Stealthing while downed needs to be reverted.

No you can’t, clearly. That’s why you’re getting downed.

I haven’t even been doing dungeons ever since the nerf just cuz of how ugly the dagger combo feels. Hope they do revert it.

I just have high DMG and shoot tons of ppl at once with my SB and get 20 thousand loot bags. ;/ Isn’t too complex or difficult. If I wanted to pick someone off from the side I’d just immobilize them or steal and stabby. SB stealth attack is the ultimate middle finger in zergs. I couldn’t imagine guns ever being more effective in dmg nor better at getting bags.

Dasorine.1964:

A thief walks into a bar… and instantly enters downed state and is subsequently kicked from his team for being a totally useless Zerker thief that spends his time face down.

Don’t forget the part where he uses his downed skills and they do absolutely nothing to save him.