p.s. you can also do fractals from level 1
You want to see class potential? – Go into the mists (the crossed sword symbol) play with builds and gear you have all your traits weapons and slot skills to use at no cost.
About levelling: you can do the living story as it up levels you to 80 and you can gain expereince doing this, you can craft you can also just explore the world, the point of interests, vistas etc, hunt out events don’t just do hearts that would get boring but tbh in any mmo i have yet to find a ’’quest’’ system that isn’t shockingly kitten however the event system in gw2 is very good.
p.s. you can 9/10 solo the living story.
traits (talents) do impact while levelling quite a lot for example the thief will be pretty horrid until you can (imo) get caltrops + the dodge trait then bleed away and its a breeze, also you may say cheese but its one of the hardest classes to play successfully in pve and pvp, ‘’stealth blah blah’’ yeh i know but its highly predictable the ok the bad thief’s in wvw get pummeled i find it VERY rare to find a very good thief (same with engi) and think ‘’hell that was a good fight’’
engineer and mesmer have the most talent (trait) tree options and are two of the hardest classes to truly play at a top level,there is variety look for it with food, traits, wepaons, sigils and runes.
sounds to me though this just is not your game unfortunately
your right is -was- a random drop in PvP during halloween but not anymore its off of the loot tables unfortuantly.
I love how were having a productive discussion about this in the Mesmer forum.
That’s because we are that freakin’ awesome!
true that, we have a constructive conversation about everything over here, tis’ an awesome community we mesmers have!
PU procs from other stealths too (i.e. thief group stealths) i would suggest having a thief in your roaming party not only for this but he can also stop downs and finish people off too, very very good in small roaming groups is the thief.
on top of that i would use Null Field instead of PU, Decoy and feedback/blink depending on the situation / proffesion combination your going to face.
Null Field – i chose this every time over Veil as its a boon and condition stripper, will also trigger chaos armor via staff blink or ileap, on top of that if your using pistol? watch the bleeds stack up!
shadowraith you tend to switch weapons before you enter combat i thought that would of gone without saying and you should be able to have a good idea when you should switch.
Redcobra, were not worried about our in-combat mobility that is excellent and rivaled only by the thief however out of combat we only have focus for swiftness and if we want to be fast and not slow (dependent on ourselves) we have to take centuar runes, no other profession is pigeon holed or made to feel that way to gain such a basic speed-up.
all they need to do is add the +speed to a signet or mantra, no biggy hell make it out of combat only i don’t care.
for example i don’t use team colours
thats cool though cudos, if they had a back piece like whisperblade or something would give you a nice glow, suppose the lightning back piece will have to do for now
3 make 2 but also make you ’’volatile’’ 3 – you have become so ’’volatile’’ you explode in a rage knocking down players around you and applying retaliation to allies, unfortunately you are now in 3 thousand tiny pieces.
or -
3: a turret of your choice comes out of your coat, you are able to fire and protect yourself while this is active.
mwahahaha.
Most top hard core EU WvWvW guilds do not accept medium armor professions. They might sometimes use thieves as scouts, providing blast finishers and doing stealth stomp, placing traps etc. But rangers and engineers are not wanted in WvWvW.
Reroll, run solo or become a commander yourself. ;-)
Riot runs 5-10man small groups creating havoc and re-capping, they specificly want engineers as they have great group synergy, thieves are also wanted though less since the meta change.
anyone who writes off any profession in GW2 i generally ignore as they normally turn out to be ignorant on how the class they bash work and are just on a bandwagon
level class A, play Class A real bad win with Class A and find it hard to loose with class A while being really bad player.
from people in gw2? ‘’i cant see it it is OP’’
from people in general? ‘’i cannot beat class A,B,C, OP!’’ meantime – people are routinely beating and having very good fights.
I’m not a pro PvP gamer by any means, but why do you guys want rewards so much or even to bring your equipment from PvE over? First time I hopped into PvP when I was low level, I thought I looked way better than in PvE, personally, and I was happy to get to see what the future of my character held with all my actual gameplay-related stuff unlocked, like skills and traits.
As an example of a game that isn’t a MMO, but is one of the top tier esports games out there, let’s look at Starcraft II. Cutting it down to basics, the PvP mode is essentially its own game separate from the campaign, and you don’t get to take whatever you’ve researched or unlocked from the campaign into it. No complaints from the players there, and the only real “rewards” you get from playing it are climbing the ranks to face more skilled players (alongside some irrelevant unit skins/emblems, I believe).
It’s also mostly the same game mode for competitive matches, if I’m not terribly mistaken (if I am, whoops, I don’t play the multi much since I just fool with the free demo/trial version). If nothing else, the PvP in GW2 does definitely need what others have mentioned here, balancing and I’d say more modes, but rewards? Victory should be adequate, if you ask me, and if it ever got to esports level, victory and actual money would be awesome if you’re that skilled.
yes and no, personally i don’t mind having separate skins for each but as it IS an MMO i think the look of your charcater should stick if you so chose.
SCII is a great game, very fun to watch but the meta sticks in that too it was the same for almost a year in the first run, also same with League of Legends, now what anyone says this is THE most popular and currently best esport out there, SCII is better to watch imho but League took elements from both building a character and an RTS standpoint and got itself a winner…
however none of that matters as this IS an MMO, Anet have said well ok the DID say they wanted to get into esports, they have the elements in place and Spvp has seperate balancing they just need as everyone said more incentive a clear team and personal ranking system (keep the personal one now, its a nice flavour) but which can be viewed in game.
allow use of food, come on its fantastic! and can be changed in combat?! Awesome, just awesome.
Enable GvG rewards / Groups, some unique items with guild emblems or something, hell take Aions Guild Sigil/emblem system that was the best as you could create you own, very unique.
GvG! GvG PvP is just begging to be introduced it would be fantastic and a few in the guild i’m in would love it, WvW would still be my fave but w/e.
Allow use of FOOD!
Because it is segregated, there is nothing to compel you to spvp unless you personally enjoy it (like myself) but i don’t buy the chests as i’m convinced there going to allow you to convert the points in the future, probably to character experience.
I’ll use the legendary as an extreme example: you spend 200 hours farming, crafting and finally you have it but you go into Spvp and you look like a hobo.
who wants to spend there time in spvp where it has no bearing on anything you have earned, more over there is more build types and much more diversity in WvW right down to the food, there is much more to consider and all the freedom to build around, why pigeon hole yourself?
Spvp needs an overhaul.
as for balance Fortus right now its pretty good considering, mesmers are only REALLY strong to people who don’t know how to fight them, recently they have been hit too, Engi’s are ok, more than beatable but i think there in a good place, Necro’s…..mmm pushing it a little but you know what run with condi removal and Vuala!
bunkers…..if you use stealth in a bunker build, generally used to hold points you will gradually loose the point if the enemy has a brain, by the time they have stealth off trying to save themselves or screw you over you are loosing the point, while in stealth you cannot effect the capture or defense of a point, so dont try to penetrate 50% swap weapons (thats right CARRY whats available to you!) get some defenses on, outlast them for the cap, hell you will at least slow the enemy teams points down a little even if you do die while its contested.
stealth is not OP, it is controllable, see a thief stealth? pull, knock back and predict it, really not that difficult, shadow refuge 90% of the time is countered now by the means i mentioned in any team worth their salt, a mesmer stealths you wait, or try and predict what hes going to do normally its when there in trouble that they stealth or they feel they need to regain something in the fight, not only that there on extremely long CD’s so not that accessible at all.
Its balanced because other skills are also buggy?
Mesmer does not have many gap closer, if our best one is unreliable its a problem.
you don’t a need gap closer you make them go wherever you want them to go, control em man!
If you’re feeling really slick you can cast warden then drop the curtain on it for aoe cond removal. Takes practice to be good at it though.
this is exactly what i am doing, i also have the reflection trait and still people dont seem to expect it, so i whip a curtain + iwarden normally using a rangers or necros pet, or even an engi’s turret to 100% get the aoe removal, necro’s panic when i fight them as i run like this and bide my time before i kill them, null field too for me personally.
besides that it is a VERY good terrain control skill you can pull people off of walls, ledges, off the sides or down the holes in skyhammer, we have a lot of uses for focus.
as i have said as well i run with the Reflection trait so i reflect a lot of stuff via this as well.
everyone else has mention the light field and such with chaos armor so i wont go into that.
the focus is a fantastic weapon the more you use it the more you will love it.
ticking time bomb: The engineer realises he is going to not come out of this very easily, or at all so to save the bother he straps his ‘’big ol bomb’’ to himself with some extra spice and sets a light to the fuse:
- Burning
-Confusion
-Cripple
-blind
no i have got crystals as rewards, from BLC too, if they dont drop from personal story anymore id like to know when that changed, you get them on zone completion too, at least i did sometimes.
Titan….well when this is released it will be a forum repeat of every tittle
‘’no progression’’
‘’wtf this sucks’’
‘’ unbalanced pvp’’
‘’you promised wah wah wah’’
Gw2 at that time would of had much more time to grow and mature, also GW2 is free basically so whenever a new mmo comes a long people are more inclined to play it and try it with WoW its ‘’aaah i have a monthly sub….ill keep playing for a while longer i have put X hours into this game after all’’
Titan: will be ages away i guarantee you there re-developing or designing for the new consoles right now.
annd none of us know wtf titan is anyway so no point in bringing this up, it might be an MMO FPS and that can kiss my shiny baby butt.
search the forum no.2 has been answered a hundred times.
1 – Great! account bound MF is MUCH better and compensation ? allow us to choose what stat allocation and where they go on the current armor versions.
or just repeat the personal story until lvl 10 i normally get 2/3 as rewards from those missions.
ok so you will be able to craft new legendarys and ascended stuff also precursors, the forums have been asking for a form of progression new gear to work towards, craftable precursors and new legendarys and now its been confirmed you’ll dont want it?
bloody crazy i will never understand the mmo player base fully.
i have seen a ton more variations of builds since the last patch both condition and phantasm mostly, shatter is largely un-changed.
also why can’t you use the sword? i play with it every day and do absolutley fine, watch for retaliation before i hit it and there is largely not too much different in the grand scheme of the weapon….
a revamp i don’t think is necessary at all! move some traits around like mantra’s perhaps the torch make things a little coherent and as always the mesmer community will come up with lots of builds and new variants on the current ones.
please explain and elaborate why we need a re-vamp why you can’t (or don’t) use the sword, argue about the interupts, its pointless and in-coherent to say ‘’interupts are quite useless’’ be more constructive and elaborate on why they are quite useless.
i would love a dev chat but i think there could of been more thought to the body of this post and subject.
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necro’s dont have much mobility if you want mobility go a condi engi or a mesmer variant, mesmers and thieves if using there slots for movement have the best in-combat mobility hands down.
US EU? or did i miss this?
i have seen engi’s pull off excellent 1vX fights and defend against a constant stream of 1v1 – 1v2’s also i have noticed that since rocket boots they can pretty much when slotted keep in front of a zerg with those and swiftness.
thiefs are great for roaming, you can flip camps, harass and generally be a pain in the backside more than any other class consistently however that being said the engi is pretty common in WvW now and most i see are fairly competent a few exceptional bad kitten but same goes for thief, all you need to do is daze, stun the thief and there HP will bomb, the engineer can take more and over time dish out more if the thief doesnt land his kill and you get overwhelmed only idiots will die to a thief in that circumstance ir afkers or the thief was just that good.
the choice is yours, personally engi is more versatile so i would choose engi and lvl the thief as a side project
swiftness, played a thief and engineer lately in spvp just to decided which i would like for an alt and having so much swiftness oh, what a nice treat!
thanks, shall listen on my way home however it normally automatically goes into my podcast folder on itunes, odd! :P
bare in mind this is not like WoW you are not really limited to what you can do so take your time while leveling and enjoy it, there is honestly no rush, everyone has covered everything else i think
there’s the Bazaar of the four winds that new content and lets you give or take play and explore a section of the labyrinth cliffs (on the edge of a new zone, which is not yet implemented but is a tease i hope).
Necromancers are very powerful now, they where good before by the way so not sure why you couldn’t play one but right now there one of the most powerful classes when played to potential, you can still be killed don’t get me wrong but yeh powerful.
no new skills yet, achievement system now gives rewards and weapons and armour at points 100,500,1000,2500,3000 etc etc.
classes have changed too much to list to be honest change wise so best to look that up in the notes.
2772 been playing since headstart, hey what can i say i take things slow and have not much interest in achievements :P
Ranger, the word does not actually mean ‘’ranged combat’’ by any means go look it up, a ranged combat master would be called an ’’Archer’’or in the modern world probably a ’’Sniper’’ or some technical name.
the ranger in GW2 is just fine, im not saying they dont need changes, fixes or buffing in certain circumstances but they can perform just fine, WvW rangers too can still be devastating all depends on the play to be honest.
On a side note do you REALLY want a legendary? if so, why? just for it to be shiny and ‘’look at me’’ ? fair doo’s each to there own but personally new skins are coming out all the time and i would hate to have a legendary only to think ‘’awww i cant re-skin this but i want to use that skin’’
I have to be ‘’that guy’’ but doesn’t this happen in every MMO why would GW2 be any different? i know level scaling blah blah but this isnt the first tittle to use scaling of this type (first mmo sure but not game).
to be honest i try to play other races but i normally always bounce back to asura even though there equip is all so small ANYTHING fits them, you can have a bad-kitten rusted Asura or a Techno-geek chic’ bad as asura and the style fits, so fun
and yes super stuff looks odd to me on anything other than asura
1. move the signets + mantra lines into one that fits so we can have builds without wasting all our points, somehow increasing confusion / torment to bring back the confusion mesmer.
2. change our torch phantasm completley;
Chaos Fire:
This phantasm surrounds you, while surrounded you gain protection (cannot stack) and regeneration, enduring this phantasms 10 second (10 too long?) time frame you inflict burning on all of your attacks and shatters will now have reduced damage by -10% but acts as a blast finisher – this does not require a combo field while you have the phantasm suit on, as this is the fire field.
- people who shoot through you and/or clones also gain burning.
maybe that way OP but i’d still love to see it in some shape or form.
Most people are so accustomed to current MMO standards that all MMO’s must meet those standards.
No endgame treadmill? THIS GAME SUCKS.
No expansion in the works? THIS GAME SUCKS.
No easy to work for shiny? THIS GAME SUCKS.
No spoonfeeding? THIS GAME SUCKS.
No new dungeon every 2 months? THIS GAME SUCKS.
No new gear for treadmill? THIS GAME SUCKS.
haha completley agree and i was happy Anet changed the pace and goal with GW2 feels much better to me personally. as for your dungeon comment though we have had 3, thats almost as many as WoW takes to bring out in a year.
personally a freind of mine went back to WoW (from league and D3) and had me join him for some arena, i have done 9 arena bouts and 3 BGs all i was thinking was ‘’i want my dodgeroll and the combat is slow and boring’’
personally WoW is over for me has been for a long time and i MUCH prefer the way GW2 is doing things Anet with there living story is very ambitious and i will not be surprised if companies with MMO’s and maybe evern RPG’s in general are keeping there eye on how its all recieved and do something themselves.
anyway Welcome back! and feel free to ad me and hit me up my guilds freindly and helpful and we run dungeons, fractals, WvW and living story (and exploration) all the time, fun bunch too.
I find this very unfair with Engineers, Guardians, Warriors, Elementalist and Mesmers having the ability to knock multiple people of ledges, ranger 1 target (and I think it’s piercing), necromancers fear multiple ppl off, while thief can’t even drag 1 target off with a rope.
just 1 more proof the devs hate the thief profession…
just a thought, if you want a knockback which i suppose could compliment a p/p build (yeh i know there not optimal but w/e!) they could make scorpion wire with a second chain, you press it twice and instead of pulling the enemy it dazes them and you leap to them using the wire performing a kick which knocks them back X yards.
i added the daze as i can imagine people moving and screwing this up unless its pathed of course, like HS make it an evade as your travelling in the air.
might prove for some interesting defenses with critters and other mobs too.
i like using it when i face a mesmer they blink, i pull ’’wtf’’ mesmer is now the one confused, or i also use it to counter rtl / mist form (not the downed one) / lightning flash.
as a mesmer is my main the last thing i expect is scorpion wire so i decided to use it, granted im still only level 60 with my thief its a slow wvw leveling process as i keep playing my mes haha.
mantras, i think if you have not all ready listen to the latest mesmer podcast;
http://sittingonacouch.com/the-gw2-mesmer-podcast-mesmerized-chaosarchangel-part-deux/
they cover a lot of good facts about mantras and should give you some insight, i personally only use a mantra if i need the effect, not in any mantra builds as of yet but i will try one day.
its a ’’Big’’ patch in a short time i do agree with meglobob, a small patch as far as MMO’s go but at the rate there coming out (getting better quality wise imho) and bigger ones in development (stated yesterday tis’ on the front page in temp content thread) i would say there pretty big for such regular updates of actual content temp or not.
On Topic:
Was there fractals when you quit? and to be honest you have the game, its free after you buy it so why not just come back and see?
i love it, to be honest i love all our weapons (except torch phantasm) however i am working on a GS + S/F build at the moment for wvw/spvp and pve and so far so good, tweaking a lot of things at the mo including traits here and there but sooner or later i will definitely post it as it surprisingly has a lot of defense.
loco
aaah was not aware of that
-Looks at entire Charr armor gallery-
Yeah, I’d say Anet is REALLY lazy when it comes to armor.
I actually love the charr armour however i do realise i am one of a minority on this so i never say how good i think it is as i know there’s no point and it is my (very rare!) opinion
the support role is there its just not as clear, for instance if your being stunned/thrown around then use a stun-breaker which imo you should always carry and weather its against players or mobs, kite them, get space and heal and re-engage when your ready.
what i see a lot is in both pvp/wvw and PvE a lot of players stand there and take the hits maybe a dodge or two but they dont kite, GW2 has a very active combat system where to be honest weather its pvp/pve/wvw (obviously some bosses there a safespots etc) you should continue moving as much as possible to create space, ans the like.
out and out PvE players i don’t think will ever get into WvW especially after trying to get there map completion, haha.
i think it cant be dyed because of the particle effects, no other particle effects can be dyed in the game, not yet.
lazy? they have just released 3 armor sets with versions for all races (helms etc differ slightly) in both male and female versions, as well as new weapons skins every month, with 2 last month however un-obtainable as of yet from the aether blades.
how can you begin to think that’s lazy?
on a side note there are so many particle effects that the skins are pretty much that one big particle effect, the theme also (rocks on fire i think) and an angelic theme well…can go wrong with the same skins.
different types of skins for male/female and races would of course of been preferable but they are not lazy, not in a long shot there has been more content added in the last 3/4months than any other MMO out there (excluding expansions ofc)
its actually nice imo with no PTR, everyone is on the same page and no ones like ‘’do this do that’’ everyone figures things out together.
the one thing i hate about other MMO’s is ‘’this NEW raid is coming out!’’ but by the time its released from the PTR (which anyone can get and play) its old news and everyone knows what to do and where to go, you loose the magic if you ask me.
Engineer i would vote for too, as for the Meta, its not just the engineer
if you was about to replace the hard-drive anyway, why don’t you just replace it ? it will be a lot cheaper than buying a new machine, thats providing it is the hard drive of course.
you can always use this hard-drive when you do purchase a new machine as well, so its not like it will just go to waste.