i was very lucky and started off the game from my very first day with several hundred gold (THANKS BLACK LION CHESTS) so i spent a full year getting any gemstore item at my whim at no cost to me. afte that cash cow finally ran out i did end up buying gems to get some watchwork pics once i realized they were better than the last versions of the gathering pics. other than that no i havnt bought anything with irl money other than tools but i do plan to in the future
i would do ANYTHING for anet to give me a construction skill, where u build ur own house. starting off with shaggy wood furniture and ugly wood walls and stuff at lv 1 and by 500 building giant statues of myself in solid diamond and marble fire places where i get buffs from logs i throw in and a fancy room with maps and book cases where i can get knowledge scrolls and tomes of experience once a day after building the extremely expensive bookshelfs (yea it would be a huge cash sink this entire thing) and throwing parties where everyone battles the exclusive bosses u can add to ur dungeon basement that drop unique loot not available anywhere else!
DROOL*
there is a thread titled something like “double the drop rate of precursors” floating around this forum wehre an anet employee actually posted the wolfam alpha equation for this phenomenon. sometimes increasing supply actually increases demand basically
because i misread the front page post and thought living story was starting on june first instead of july i am actually extremely bored right now
Here is a reason: Waste of resources to implement a solution to a non-problem.
see comment 5 on my long post on this page (false inference).
and lets stop saying its not a problem, as you can see from thousands of posts throughout this section of the problem , many people DO find it to be a problem, and so it is a problem and thats a fact.
Your proposal is a false inference to begin with. Those thousands of people simply do not existand did not post in this section expressing their feeling to buy a more expensive listing.
haha no, they absolutly exist and people HAVE made threads on this before and people DO complain about it in game. stop trying to undermine the issue by saying it isnt an issue, its an issue to me and u need to respect that
I just checked all 4 pages in this topic and not a SINGLE poster, apart from you, agreed with you that its a good idea in general and thought that Anet should spend any resources on implementing it.
This might be an issue for you but if you think that the mayority of players wants to see this, you´re dillusional.i see plenty of people on these 4 pages suggesting SOME kind of change, some are suggesting a minimum change required for undercutting instead but atleast they admit SOMETHING is wrong.
its also important to notice that this is the forum where the TP barons hang out not the common man. so the opinion we see here is unrepresentative of the majority of the game….but im sure some of the posters here would like to forget that =)
I already stated earlier that i would have no problem, if Anet implemented your change because it will have next to no effect towards my earnings on the TP because the mayority of players simply wont use it. So your arguement that the users in this forum are biased because they fear for their profits cantbe applied to me.
I just have a problem with you claiming that whole maps and thousands of people demand this change, while we have only seen evidence of your opinion and nobody else´s supporting your suggestion.
If you want to ingore the fact that Anet simply wont spend any ressources on implementing a change that has little to no effect on how the player base uses the TP, go ahead.People who posted here and demanded changes to undecutting has nothing to do with your suggestion of letting people choose to buy at a higher price than the lowest listing.
if you are unbiased either way you are free to stop commenting and leave now
As i said, i dont want Anet to use their ressources to implement your suggestion, thats why i am staying.
so with no understanding of the process anet has for delivering updates and UI interface changesa nd other minor fixes you assume this will cut down on your game content?
Unbiased does not equate apathy towards changes that have no impact.
you have no buisness assuming this will have no impact, you do not have all the answers and should not speak with such certainty here.
per race? a little ambitios, il just take my dervish and paragon plz. with throwable spears , scyths (no other class but the dervish should b able to wield the scyth) and HYBRID ARMOR , i want the dervish and paragon to use a combination of heavy medium and light, like heavy chest on paragon but light head and medium gloves/ boots and light legs, that would create some interesting looks
1) i love collecting weapon skins (but that does NOT mean i think im entitled to every single one i miss at a later date cough cough anet
2) i love getting rare drops, im kinda addicted to any system that gives me random loot
3) lion keys…u tasty tasty temptress you……
out of your whole list i think 5 would blow my mind the most
i cant even begin to describe how much i would low construction as a guild wars 2 skill….starting off with ugly (yet still somehow pretty with gw2 graphics) wooden furniture and leveling up to build thrones of diamonds and marble fireplaces where i can burn logs and create buffs for myself and sleep in my bed to give a “restd” experience buff that gets stronger the fancier bed you build and a personalized dungeon full of monsters i pay for and AHHHHHH im excited just thinking about it anet give us a construction skill!!!!!!
absolutly, its the only real place people get mini pets from…..who actually buys mini pets in gw2?
Here is a reason: Waste of resources to implement a solution to a non-problem.
see comment 5 on my long post on this page (false inference).
and lets stop saying its not a problem, as you can see from thousands of posts throughout this section of the problem , many people DO find it to be a problem, and so it is a problem and thats a fact.
Your proposal is a false inference to begin with. Those thousands of people simply do not existand did not post in this section expressing their feeling to buy a more expensive listing.
haha no, they absolutly exist and people HAVE made threads on this before and people DO complain about it in game. stop trying to undermine the issue by saying it isnt an issue, its an issue to me and u need to respect that
I just checked all 4 pages in this topic and not a SINGLE poster, apart from you, agreed with you that its a good idea in general and thought that Anet should spend any resources on implementing it.
This might be an issue for you but if you think that the mayority of players wants to see this, you´re dillusional.i see plenty of people on these 4 pages suggesting SOME kind of change, some are suggesting a minimum change required for undercutting instead but atleast they admit SOMETHING is wrong.
its also important to notice that this is the forum where the TP barons hang out not the common man. so the opinion we see here is unrepresentative of the majority of the game….but im sure some of the posters here would like to forget that =)
I already stated earlier that i would have no problem, if Anet implemented your change because it will have next to no effect towards my earnings on the TP because the mayority of players simply wont use it. So your arguement that the users in this forum are biased because they fear for their profits cantbe applied to me.
I just have a problem with you claiming that whole maps and thousands of people demand this change, while we have only seen evidence of your opinion and nobody else´s supporting your suggestion.
If you want to ingore the fact that Anet simply wont spend any ressources on implementing a change that has little to no effect on how the player base uses the TP, go ahead.People who posted here and demanded changes to undecutting has nothing to do with your suggestion of letting people choose to buy at a higher price than the lowest listing.
if you are unbiased either way you are free to stop commenting and leave now
its also important to notice that this is the forum where the TP barons hang out not the common man. so the opinion we see here is unrepresentative of the majority of the game….but im sure some of the posters here would like to forget that =)
Is this supposed to be some kind of inverted appeal to authority? “Hey, don’t listen to these guys because they know what they are doing!”
“hey dont listen to these guys because they have their own hidden agenda”
Here is a reason: Waste of resources to implement a solution to a non-problem.
see comment 5 on my long post on this page (false inference).
and lets stop saying its not a problem, as you can see from thousands of posts throughout this section of the problem , many people DO find it to be a problem, and so it is a problem and thats a fact.
Your proposal is a false inference to begin with. Those thousands of people simply do not existand did not post in this section expressing their feeling to buy a more expensive listing.
haha no, they absolutly exist and people HAVE made threads on this before and people DO complain about it in game. stop trying to undermine the issue by saying it isnt an issue, its an issue to me and u need to respect that
I just checked all 4 pages in this topic and not a SINGLE poster, apart from you, agreed with you that its a good idea in general and thought that Anet should spend any resources on implementing it.
This might be an issue for you but if you think that the mayority of players wants to see this, you´re dillusional.
i see plenty of people on these 4 pages suggesting SOME kind of change, some are suggesting a minimum change required for undercutting instead but atleast they admit SOMETHING is wrong.
its also important to notice that this is the forum where the TP barons hang out not the common man. so the opinion we see here is unrepresentative of the majority of the game….but im sure some of the posters here would like to forget that =)
start your OWN group and to hell with any1 who starts trying to rush, i kick or scold them immediatley and noone stops me cuz im the opener
they arnt bots by the way they are spanish speakers. try whispering one you will get some jibberish back, i always make a point to yell at individuals in their private chat rather than bluster at the map chat
I wonder if OP does this in real life. If, for example, there are 2 gasoline stations next to each other where one has undercut the posted price of its neighbor by one penny, does he go to the more expensive one to reward it for not being despicable?
i would but things in real life are usually overpriced not underpriced (like gas for example) i do however do it with foods because fat people dont need 99 cent bags of chips
Here is a reason: Waste of resources to implement a solution to a non-problem.
see comment 5 on my long post on this page (false inference).
and lets stop saying its not a problem, as you can see from thousands of posts throughout this section of the problem , many people DO find it to be a problem, and so it is a problem and thats a fact.
Your proposal is a false inference to begin with. Those thousands of people simply do not existand did not post in this section expressing their feeling to buy a more expensive listing.
haha no, they absolutly exist and people HAVE made threads on this before and people DO complain about it in game. stop trying to undermine the issue by saying it isnt an issue, its an issue to me and u need to respect that
I psot in this what I posted in another thread. This TC is complaining because someone is willing to take less profit then him. I.E someone isn’t selling at his expected value.
why take someone that greedy seriously again?
or is the greedy person the one who wants it NOW instead of having some patience? maybe the undercutter is the one we shudnt take seriously
because everything thats buyable is too easy to get, doesnt take enough time, and would cheapen the experience of using it. end of discussion
Here is a reason: Waste of resources to implement a solution to a non-problem.
see comment 5 on my long post on this page (false inference).
and lets stop saying its not a problem, as you can see from thousands of posts throughout this section of the problem , many people DO find it to be a problem, and so it is a problem and thats a fact.
notice all the people against this idea are also offering hardcore market advice…..i think we know which type of person is really in favor of the undercutter =p
not all of us want to watch the market, some of us would rathe rplay the game and STILL not support the idea of undercutting by 1c, i think thats a game we can build together
I’m not “in favor” of the undercutter. I’m in favor of a system which benefits everyone in the game or at least more people than it harms. Focusing on the handful of situations in which being undercut by 1c significantly affects someone’s gaming experience offers little benefit to the player base as a whole.
If I don’t want to be undercut, I can accept the lowest custom buy offer. As soon as I ask for more than 2c beyond that price, I know I risk someone offering less. Even then, that just means I don’t sell first — I have yet to encounter the situation in which I failed to sell because someone (or several someones) undercut me by 1c; that only happens when I get too greedy/misjudge the market and ask for too much.
Adding rules or mechanics around undercutting reduces the pressure on the sellers to decrease their asking prices, which hurts anyone interested in buying the items in question. That’s bad for more people than it benefits — and that’s why I can’t support the idea of regulating undercutting (or overbidding).
do we really want the seller to reduce asking price? i mean look at this game’s economy there are thousands of items and less than 20 of them r worht over 1000g, this economy is rampant with undercutting and its driving everyone into a place where nobody can have a large amount of money without flipping
The way I see it (and many others as well), if there’s no problem to begin with, there’s no need for a solution.
that doesnt explain why u feel the need to argue AGAINST it, ur statement implies neutrality, ur actions are anything but neutral. why dont u come up with a reason for me, can u do that?
if you dont see the problem you dont want to see the problem, not aggreeing is one thing, but not having the empathy required to understand why someone might not want to reward an undercutter is an act of will. there are more important things to me than money, hopefully to you too…
But there isn’t a problem. People who trade don’t do so out of empathy for their competition. They do so for profit. Money is more important that your feelings.
I’ll try to explain things to you one more time. If you list an item for sale, and it doesn’t sell after you’ve been undercut by someone else, that means your price is too high. Meaning, it’s your fault the item isn’t sold. List the item for cheaper, and it will sell faster.
I can promise you that I will more likely not undercut a price that’s too low.
that explains why you would choose not to use this change i am proposing, not why you are so strongly fighting it
The only illogical fallacy is the entire premise this thread is created on. I still fail to see why anyone would bother with the idiotic act of paying more for an item when there’s a perfectly good listing that’s cheaper. Sure it’s only cheaper by a copper, yet those savings add up in the long run, especially if you’re buying in bulk. Face it, you’re buying from an undercutter no matter what you do. Unless you’re buying from the very first person to have sold that item, you will never buy from someone who did not undercut another person.
if you dont see the problem you dont want to see the problem, not aggreeing is one thing, but not having the empathy required to understand why someone might not want to reward an undercutter is an act of will. there are more important things to me than money, hopefully to you too…
i love this game too, my only complaint would be loot basically falls into 4 categories. skins/gear, miscelaneous items with few uses (hello potions and minipets), crafting materials (which all feel exactly the same), and literal junk with literally no use (stupid gears). if guild wars 2 is to remain interesting for aslong as many other MMO it needs to create greater varieties of loot. i suggest runescape as the model because that game made every item feel like it meant something somewhere and every single monster had its own huge drop table with loot available NOWEHRE else. i loved that
what i want to do moving foreward is encourage anet to create a huge set of new skills that are not done at crafting stations like the ones we have now, skills that require us to GET UP and GET OUT THERE! hunting/fishing? carpentry? (build ur own house in gw2 would be so amazing with these graphics!!!!) farming? (not sure how useful this would be but id still like to virtually garden =p)
notice all the people against this idea are also offering hardcore market advice…..i think we know which type of person is really in favor of the undercutter =p
not all of us want to watch the market, some of us would rathe rplay the game and STILL not support the idea of undercutting by 1c, i think thats a game we can build together
no, people think they can sell it faster if they sell it for less and thats wrong.
Can’t …. believe …. someone …. just …. said …. this.
No, no, your right … people love buying stuff for NOT the lowest price. Class dismissed.
some people do, i made an entire thread about wanting to buy from higher sellers
so with these in mind please answer the above question “why do YOU not want this done?”
Because your proposed solution isnt a good fix for the problem you describe (which in my opinion isnt a problem at all) because you cant determine, if a listing is from a regular player or an “evil undercutter” as all listings are anonymous.
Even if your solution was implemented and we assume most people use it like you propose, i could still list 9 items at 10g, then undercut myself by 1 copper, which results in all the “righteous people like you” buying my listing anyways.
Or someone lists a precursor at 1100g, then he gets undercut by another one by 100g (which is a good undercut that you would buy) that is listed at 1000g.
Now I, the evil TP Baron come in at list at 999.9999g and also get undercut several times by various amounts because there is more supply than demand atm for that precursor. My listing and the listing 1 copper above me doesnt get sold for another 2 weeks and the player who listed at 1000g decides to pull his listing and sell to the highest bidder to cut his losses. After another week, all listings below me sell, so i got the lowest one but get immediately undercut by 1 copper again.
Now you decide to buy that precursor and see the 3 lowest listings: 999.9998g, my listing at 999.9999g and the listing at 1100g.According to your logic and mindset you expressed several times in this topic, you will buy my listing.
if any offer is 1c below the previous offer (and its not a material im buying in bulk) i choose to buy from the one that is 1c more expensive. its that simple , stop trying to over think it, and stop trying to get everyone else to overthink it
also, i asked you to avoid the imperfect solution fallacy, u just used it. COULD someone undercut themselves? yes, will that be a common problem? no. does that mean we shouldnt do this just because “its not perfect and it doesnt fix the problem entirley” no. it makes it better, and thats all that matters
please do your best to keep your arguments in higher standards and avoid illogical fallacy in the future. please read up on illogical fallacy and their use
i dont like this idea because i want more original skills, every profession already has a “summon an ally” elite skill and adding another one will not feel unique or special.
what we need in the department of new skills is hexes and enchantments like in gw1
your “solution” is absurd. so we are all supposed to be psychic and read the market? it should be up to the buyer to decide if they want to buy from the 19 99 99 or the 20 00 00, thats a simple change and doesnt restrict anyone, you can still undercut if you want
and why is there no room for a grey area???
Nope. Computers cannot “read minds”. It cannot tell if someone is sad that they were undercut. In fact, it would be completely unfair if a computer allowed a lower priced item to sell after a higher priced item. Now if this were 2050, and we have computers capable of human thought and learning, perhaps we could have some gray areas in the market. Maybe then we could see a computer having the compassion necessary to facilitate the need to sell an item priced at 20 ahead of an item priced at 19.99.99.
Going back to selling for cheaper. This tactic actually makes plenty sense. If you list something at 20 Gold, and someone undercuts it with 19.99.99, that sucks right? Well if the velocity of that item’s market is high enough, BOTH items will sell. However, if the velocity of the market is stagnant at those prices, BOTH items will NOT sell. That means it’s the Seller’s fault for overpricing the item. If you want the item to sell, you need to price it lower to attract more people willing to buy it. Thus the need to list it for 10 to 15 Gold.
Now say you list it for 10 to 15 Gold, and someone undercuts you. Ok, that’s no big deal, as the velocity of the item’s market is much higher now, and so being undercut won’t hurt. Both items would sell much faster since it’s cheaper. You went from having 0 potential buyers, to maybe a handful now.
tl;dr – In order to do well in any market, you need to know how to read it. Amateur sellers who list items at any odd price without doing research will always lose.
tl;dr2 – The current market is well balanced, and working as intended. No fix needed.
so im pretty sick of these illogical arguments (i mean ur first paragraph is so off topic its almost report worthy) so instead of responding to u AGAIN and getting a resposne back that really isnt a response il just ask you this: why do you think this shouldnt be done
keep in mind: the following are invalid answers because they contain one or more “sins of science”
“the market is working fine as is (imperfect solution fallacy) nothing is perfect and everything has room for imporvement
“you just want to keep your stuff from getting undercut” (straw man argument" do not make personal attacks or assumptions and pretend that is a response to an argument
“we need undercutting by 1c because it keeps prices competative” (slippery slope fallacy) do not make arguments that assume one event leads to another without evidence of their connection, also do not attack small pieces of arguments ignoring the larger whole (misdirection falacy) as iv said before we are not taking away undercutting, we are just giving people the choice
“the developers can better use their time” (false inferences) you do not know the developers and are not a developer, if you are / do then you do not know all of the factors involved in their development schedual, even if you did, you do not know what the future holds and cannot assume that anet will NEVER have time for this, not even anet employees would be justified in making this claim.
“very few people benefit” (faulty generalization) do not reach a conclusion from weak premises. you dont know how many people would like this after it was implemented.
so with these in mind please answer the above question “why do YOU not want this done?”
it should be up to the buyer to decide if they want to buy from the 19 99 99 or the 20 00 00, thats a simple change and doesnt restrict anyone, you can still undercut if you want
- That’s not a simple change to the mechanics of the TP. It also complicates the UI.
- It only benefits two people: the one asking for a higher price and the person willing to pay more to accommodate that seller.
- It hurts nearly everyone else, by reducing pressure on sell orders to drop closer to buy offers.
I would prefer ANet spend its limited on changes that benefit everyone, such as providing the same data to buyers and sellers.
1, completly absurd its so easy , all they have to do is check/uncheck the boxes that are ALREADY next to the buy instantly page to determine which ones they want to buy, easy
2.wrong it IMMEDIATLEY benefits those 2 people but it eventually benefits all of the economy, every person who gathers resources and gets a rare drop, every person who ever EVER wants to sell something on the TP can get some more money for it.
3. you assume thats a bad thing? it doesnt hurt nearly everyone to drag the entire economy down so that nearly every item is cheap and worhtless? look at this economy we have now, how do u make money in it without laying the market or buying it? its all cuz of undercutting ,
i think if thuroughly thrashed those 3 points but the simple fact remains i believe you and people like you feel that you profit from undercutting and dont want this update done because ur worried it will hurt YOUR bottom line
i hope they NEVER bring any of them back again (even the ones i want) this game is totally lacking in respect for the rare items of people who already have them, u cant just make more everytime somebody wants them? wheres the prestige? the value? the rarity?
take a look at my thread “a social solution to price undercutting” where i talk about how we as a community can prevent price undercutting (i dont care about overbidding because u can just instantly take ur offer out and put it back in for no cost at all to you, and if ur smart u wont do it by 1c cuz then ul just get outbid again).
i aggree 100% currently the only kind of prestige in gw2 is expensiveness and thats not good enough considering how MANY items r in the game and they all do the exact same thing at the end of the day
anet plz respect that we worked hard for items and dont want other ppl having them if they didnt do the content. dont re release stuff like this anymore
no teq is balanced, maybe a wurm nerf or a boss blitz nerf but not a teq nerf
no, they deserve to, and should, advertise. or would u rather pay a monthly fee? i wudnt.
if advertisments bother people then they are in the wrong part of the world (and thus the wrong part of the internet.
The debate at hand is now “natural equilibrium” or “forced equilibrium”.
Natural equilibrium has worked for the last 2 years, so why should it change?
I think people want change to happen faster. This is due to a combination of Entitlement and Impatience.
I’ll concede Impatience, but I think the only Entitlement in this discussion is those defending the status quo based on the fact that they like it (rather than that it works better). I’ve given my reasons for arguing this, and they don’t include personal gain, so I’m not sure where you’re reading in Entitltement … other than a desire to insult your opponents (as opposed to engage in discussion).
I’m a firm believer that it is appropriate to consider proposed improvements based on their merits; 2 years of things working well enough is not an argument that they are better than they could be.
That said, I’m not going to argue this further because I’m unconvinced that it could be done in a way which wouldn’t be more annoying than the inefficiency of 1c underbids … but that’s different from agreeing that the status quo is better. (And anyway — 1c underbids don’t generally hurt me, since none of my trading is based on fast cycles.)
There are those who feel entitled to quick returns. This is mostly true when you have the arguments that 20 and 19.99.99 are the same. The person who has the item listed at 20 feel that they’re entitled to selling before the 19.99.99, even though the other item is cheaper. To some, the perception is that the prices are similar enough to warrant a debate. But ultimately, the item that gets sold first is the one priced lower. The current system sees in Black and White, and works well. There’s no room for a Gray area, unless you develop an AI for the TP.
The solution to this conundrum is for the original seller of the item priced at 20, to have listed it for 10 – 15 instead, if the item has low velocity at the higher rate.
your “solution” is absurd. so we are all supposed to be psychic and read the market? it should be up to the buyer to decide if they want to buy from the 19 99 99 or the 20 00 00, thats a simple change and doesnt restrict anyone, you can still undercut if you want
and why is there no room for a grey area???
to everyone saying this would take “time” to implement and that the UI would get more complex, heres my very simple suggestion as to how it would work
on the "buy instantly screen (which would not change at all) u just check which order you want to buy THEN you select quantity (incase u want more than one) nothing will start off checked to prevent accidents
also i was just about to buy a super longbow skin and i was annoyed that i have to buy the 24 99 98 offer instead of the 25g offer (3 offers above where im forced to buy) so dont tell me this isnt a problem to the buyer and the seller
he makes a good point, but anet should just make the anti zerg content easier at first, baby steps to skill guys, baby steps
i would play a character like this, but i demand the following
-increased loot chances
-unique loot that can only be aquired from hardcore mode
-ability to buy loot from the TP and loose said loot when u die (its gooooood for the economy)
-a set of achievment points that can only be aquired from hardcore mode (like literally the entire set of achievments we have now but in hardcore mode for DOUBLE the score)
i liked the living story, thats all i have to say about that, do i want more contant? sure every1 always wants more more more
meaningful multiplayer? they just overhauled the reward system what mroe do u want, its much better now
im sure they will open up the map and add new professions/ races in the next year or 2
you spoiled kiddies r complaining about things you dont understand, they have to cut back on the loot in pavillion or prices would crash and the game would be even less rewarding,
you look at an event and you say “i dont like the outcome so it was stuipid” did you even once think “mayb its better than the alternative”
stop bumping this its totally pointless and we dont want it
What happrns when the good guy lists his item 1c below the lowest WTS. Will you just buy from the big bad tp trader because he lists higher price?
I think some people consider anyone who undercuts by 1c to be evil by default. But it doesn’t matter, since nothing in this thread will ever be implemented by Anet or the players.
i do consider the undercutter to be unfavorable, and i find your confidence in nothing getting done laughable
Your entire thread is progressive nonsense you’re pushing as though it was an actual problem in this game economy. It’s not – it’s a problem you’re creating in your mind based upon assumptions you have about character and emotional state and intent of the sellers.
1) You have attributed in MANY posts within this thread a (fake) monetary transaction to emotions and intent: “greedy”, “evil”, etc. No-one is purposefully trying to harm anyone – the speed to sell desire derives from the need to get their capital and profit back so they can make their currency “work” again. Period. Noone is thinking “man, I can drive that unknown player into the poorhouse if I just undercut them 1c”. You and others like you aim to re-define capitalist behavior as inherently evil – real intent of the human partaking in the behavior ignored because it doesn’t fit your convenient narrative.
2) You look at each transaction as a moment-in-time vs. a continuum. This goes back to the speed to sell in point 1. Your argument is only problematic if you think each transaction is a PvP game mode – round by round. TP players are not thinking that way. We think “I spent 78 silver to buy those greens, flushed and got 1.8G worth of rares for a profit of .3 G to add to capital AND they sold in ~4 minutes vs. bogging down” or something similar. We are not thinking of other players at all – we are thinking how fast to get the money back onto the craps table (in my case).
your post is very biased and bigoted, just because you dont perceive a problem doesnt mean you can disrespect other people’s view that it is infact, a problem. you say i am making it a problem in my mind, how do you know your not making it less of a problem in your mind?
also i dont care if anyone is intentionally trying to harm another person or not, it doesn’t mean they arnt. great acts of “evil” as you call them (as iv said before i dont believe in evil) are usually done by people who dont know what they are doing.
and please keep your politics in real life to yourself. nobody is trying to “re define capitalism” you have mistakenly perceived me to have some global agenda i dont have
Undercutting is an intended feature of the economy. It will either happen on the TP or off it if you keep trying to “fix” it. Adapt and handle it.
The only one driving you into the poorhouse is yourself.
oh look another angry person assuming that i am the seller in this scenario and that i want to stop ppl from undercutting me….if u really dont think its a big deal then you wont mind if we implement it? great =D
and as per your first “point” im pretty sure nobody will resort to trading off the TP just because we give ppl the CHOICE of who they want to buy from
Just deal with it
I would still choose the cheaper option 100% of the time.
not a helpful comment but im sure that was your intention
some of them look awsome, i particuarlly like the torch and staff
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bumping cuz i still cant get on, i missed tequatl tonight =(