Guild Wars 2

jcbroe.4329:

ROM (from TCG) has been playing ranger on stream and running 0/6/2/6/0 with Survival of the Fittest and Moment of Clarity (most of us can fill in the rest of those blanks by now) and he does extremely well with it.

I have had a lot of fun with this type of build in hotjoin and wvw roaming, though i don’t use it in rankedQ because i don’t think that I could hold a point with it reliably. But i think that 0/6/2/6/0 GS/S-x is a great choice for Solo/small party roaming (read roaming not dueling) as you can get around the map quick, flip camps quick and take fights as they come.

I glad that we were able to help, keep in mind that you can always change down that track and nothing needs to be set in stone. The more you play the more you will work out what you need. and if you fall in love with you ranger like that rest of us then you need to buy extra bank space to store you spare sets of armor and weapons in.

I was not trying to say that because I’m in t1 I’m right, I say that this is what works for me in a map blob vs map blob situation.

I favor playing front line as i found that i like it and it works for me quite some time ago. I also believe that you don’t do much DPS when you are dead or are constantly running away/saying to the sides picking of one at a time so I like gearing up tanky. I also feel that i get more bags this way as well (I’m kinda selfish like that)

I also do simple things like use a mic on voice comes and call out healing spring when i use it to heal myself, you get a few extra blasts when you drop it on the commanders head.

I also enjoy out living Guards and Warriors

For running with the T1 mega blobs i roll this
I do vary a few things depending on the fight size and location.

As far as going it solo, my build depends on the day of the week, how hungry i am and what colour are my underwear. To put it in perspective i have 4 sets of ascended armor even more trinkets and various collection of weapons because i play a variety of builds. My current flavor of the month is this

this is the more detailed version of the build fluffball is talking about
and there is room for variations

I have to aggree i cant see the advantage of this over rabid i suppose that you sword Auto attack hit a little harder.

I’m going to disagree with Fluffball on this (the other options are better for solo part any way).

Like all of our weapons short-bows promotes various play styles. Two things that the short bow has going for it are rate of fire and kiting, (also cc opponents but Axe-dagger is probably better for that).

My view on playing short bow is that at all time you must be strafing and circling your opponent just outside of max melee range, and skills such as SB#3, SB#4, MT, LR, Entangle, dogs and spiders can all help you do this, the more you circle strafe the more bleed proc’s you get from the auto-attack.

The rate of fire also means that you will proc more with % on hit/crit over a longer period of time them slower attacking weapons

Justine.6351:

Get rid of the stacking sigils like bloodlust. The game is much more enjoyable.

this is gold, i have always done this with zerker builds. but i have even started doing this with bunker builds you are correct way more fun with out them.

Gwaymor.4835:

By the way, how do I deselect targets OTHER than mashing the ESC key? Yeah, I’m that newb:).

so you options for this are:
- Escape key
- Randomly clicking on the screen (you will get used to doing this but it takes awhile)
-When following a commander or a group leader etc, put a target mark on there hear use the select target key.
- there is a de-select target hot-key that you can bind, I’m and work so i cant look up exactly what is called

mostly its clicking randomly on the screen.

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that will give you an idea to get started with

what do you intend on using the ranger for?
Pve, dungeons, wvw, pvp?

fifteen charters

tells what you really think Tragic (though i agree with you).

my way off looking at this (goes for all pets) is what is it that you are trying to achieve with you pet selection as they all are a little different. For example in all most all content why would you use a bear over a say drake, what is the bear doing that the drake is not. in the opposite situating what is it that a drake can do that a bear can not well more damage and AOE, while still being tanky.

As far as weapons go some thing applies what can this weapon do better then the other weapon. and in pve where DPS is king 1 hand sword often the winner.

is suppose it depends on what you mean by overused.

If you mean used more then they should i would say any of the bears, because as far as I’m aware there is no reason to use them out side of soloing champs.

i you mean beats the are most often used (but in appropriate situations) i would say cats/dogs/birds/spiders.

and underused i would suggest pig familiarly, as they are strong but hard to use.

the pets i use most are
PvE
Cats and drakes (often jag and river drake)
Pvp/WvW
Dogs, birds, spiders, drakes (build pending)

these are the two different builds that i use

Sotf/Rabid/krait; and
Settlers BM

I have a tendency to make slight adjustment pending on opposition comp (especially WS Grandmaster trait). I also vary my weapon sets as well depending on my mood and how i feel like playing, i use all combinations of SB, at, ad, st, sd (i’m a short bow fan-boy)

StickerHappy.8052:

So which one would be better, cele or condi amy? like dps wise.

you can not really compare celestial to a condi amy in terms of dps of as it has a variety of stats. if you want go full dps with condi use a rampages amy.

comparing stats of amulates, is kinda pointless unless you have a particular build and play style I mined

http://dulfy.net/2014/07/05/gw2-ranger-pve-class-guide-by-lorek-and-cell/
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki

also look through the first couple of pages of this forum for heading that seem relevant as this is a very commly asked question, you should not have to look far back at all

pdavis.8031:

The reality is most of them are rares and some greens, with the upgrades. Thats going to be my next project.

then this would be the reason why your stats seem a bit low.

Don’t for get you can use Karma, dungeon tokens and wvw badges to help you get set up,

I am glad the i sore the use of them when they first came out and got 3 or 4 of them for 5g

it looks about right if any thing you a bit higher then normal, because of the Accurcy sigil and going 6 in to skirmishing instead of 5.

you are missing zerker upgrades in your trinkets and don’t for get spotter adds 7% (i think) when in battle. it might look a little worse on you h panel if you are using less then exotic.

This is what could be considered stock standard for dungeons

Signet of the hunt is worth the slot as it buffs you pets speed in a fight so it gets to it target quicker.

There is no reason why you can’t change utility slots before you engage (if you can see the fight coming), i typically plan my build around 2 utility with the last one being variable.

For the purpose of escaping, you can slow down you enimies with immob (you have 4 sources of of immob 2 pets and 2 utility’s) if you leave you dog pet attacking you opponet when you start trying to escape it will also cripple your opponent slowing them down. Also if you are running with you thief mate then you have shadow refuge to use as well.

you have made some pretty wise choices, one suggestion consider sigils of Air over Accuracy. I’m glad that you are seeming the improvements

in traits, experiment with spotter in the marks line, and consider fortifying bond in the Natures magic (3 points) these are some of the rangers strongest traits.

keep in mind that you don’t have to set and forget, experiment and learn what different combinations do.

Often when playing power ranger, you defenses is you ability to kill you opponent quick, CC and evades. When I play glassbow I typically use full zerker gear but with some defensive traits/utlitys

2 examples are
6/2/6/0/0 EB signets
6/0/2/6/0 SotF

In my opinion power ranger is not very effective but a hell of a lot of fun to play it.

hear is a melee power build I some times play (SotF Variation)

The only time i can think of vit being more use full then toughness is in builds that have a very high protection up (spirit of stone. forge runes etc) this where Carrion amulet is often used.

For almost all other build types I prefer toughness over Vitality. the reason being that Vitality reduces the effect of healing and toughness increases the effect, healing is a set amount of HPs so if you decrease the amount of damage you are taking you increase the value of each HP. If you increase the amount of HP you have your decrease the % of your health your healing will return to you.

keep I’m mined though conditions ignore armor, so you always need a way of dealing with that, high vitality only delays the conditions killing you.

one of the reasons that I like the short bow is for is quick fire rate, it great for proc’ing on hit/critical hit procs. you also get more hits on kiting targets.

It use to faster

I like mixing celestial stats and BM, often with a short bow.

0/2/0/6/6 SotF

0/0/6/4/4 BS spirit BM

0/0/6/2/6 BS ZS

when i play glassbow in wvw solo, I use full zerker/ranger runes but use a more defensive trait set up 6/0/2/6/0 SotF or 6/0/6/2/0 Bark skin and signets.

full Glass is great with 1 or 2 others including glass traits because you can use you range to survive and you get you pals to mark targets for you and you drop them.

What part of the game are you intending on using it for? Pve (solo, world events, dundgens) or WvW (Zerg, havoc, Roaming).

IF it for any pve content i would just go full zerker

If its for WvW then I would get full sets of zerker, Knights and Pvt and find a blend for the situation that you are in

Why are you sticking to the same weapons and traits all the time? variety is the spice of life

Keavaa.5047:

I guess he could have been trolling too.

I would suggest that this is the case, or maybe wishful think on there behalf.

unless they are referencing to the animation to PBS which depending on your point of view could be considered a nerf, but it not its just a way to give skilled opponents a chance to react.

my only suggestion is don’t go full zerker in wvw and expect to live a long healthy life. i have never been troubled by retaliation in wvw, largely because i use tanky gear when I’m in and around large groups of people.

just remember dead players don’t do damage, gets some Pvt.

I think that you have to look at this form a practical point of view. Going all out boon/might duration is not always going to be the best option.

if you use a SotF or NV type build (6 points in natures magic) plus Strength/Hoelbrak runes for power or Aristocracy runes for conditions (note hoelbrak runes have 15 less might duration compared to the others). You are going to have 60-75% might duration give you about 5s of might on hit.

I believe this will give you 7 or 8 stacks of might against a single target and closer to 20 of multiple targets (don’t quote me on this as I’m at work and cant test it). From here it is probably not worth using givers armor or boon duration food, you will get more value out of some sort of damage armor/food.

For me the real power in the might on axe hit is in BM builds with fortifying bond. As Solandri said your pet gets a flat 10s might duration, which means your pets gets about 15 stacks of might against a single target and easily maintain 25 against multiple targets.

they work well together on the shortbow, i love doing on SOTF/rabid builds

i’ve changed my mined

Good player the know there class well > Cheesy player > bad player

is solo Roaming and 1v1’s the same thing?

if not then
War, Ranger, Thief

if yes then
Mez, Thief, not sure on the third there are no other classes I have problems with dueling

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don’t over think it you just need to tag lots of stuff

Flintbrow.7985:

Ok, quick question: If running two dogs in a power build, what adept trait in skirmishing is “best”…agility training..primal reflexes…companion’s might? They all seem pretty lackluster to me unless you can run a pet w/ high crit%. This is my only trait choice that I’m iffy about.

primal reflexes is far from lackluster, i think its quite a strong trait.

I’ll try not to repeat to much form previous people

Get use to your swap set, whether it is GS or s/x I kill sentry’s and camps mostly with my swap set, I also use my secondary set for moving around the map. To be perfectly honest I spend more time on my swap set.

Both GS and S/D have there pros and cons, so practices them and find out which suits you more.

CC pets, if you are using a glassbow build use durable CC pets, Dogs and spiders. you don’t need a damage pet such as a cat as you are doing plenty of damage your self. Some helpful facts Dogs will always use there knockdown auto attack if it is available so it will be the first skill that they use after you swap to them. I believe same goes for a spiders immobilize, though a don’t use spiders that much so I’m not sure.

You can change you utility if you get to engage fight on your terms. If you know that you are about to fight a thief then swap in sic’em if you know your about to fight a condi build (check food) swap in SoR and healing spring, hambow swap in RaO and SotW. So keep you most versatile always good skills on you bar mostly.

I don’t like SoS in 1v1 and small fights because I believe that you should be finding ways to not get to the point where you need it, if you need it to get to you healing skill of CD then you will proberly die next time you healing skill goes on CD. I only use SoS in zerg fighting when i get out of position and in front of the melee train or to push through a choke.

You may notice the all of the runes/sigil form the sept 9 patch and and the food from the dry top releases are account bound. but to answer your question i have no idea. maybe to control the prices in the market as they rely t6 mats. Possible to get people to by crafting licenses. Or i could be just as simple as getting people to level crafting disciplines

It’s going to be hard for you to get unbiased opinion here, because most of us who play ranger love it, because it is a fun and rewarding class.

The best way i can put it is rangers do what the do extremely well but are not as effective a some parts of the game, but after the patch there are only a few things the a rangers is not highly competitive at. Where as a worrier is some where between acceptable and great at every thing. I believe warriors to be a much easier class to play

It depends on what parts of the game you enjoy best. In all things PvE they are both very effective with rangers being possible the best class in the game for map completion. According to “Death and Taxes [DnT]” a large PvE and dungeon runner guild rangers sit forth on the DPS list above worries.

If you want to play mostly wvw then in big zerg fights Warrior is better then Ranger but in solo and very small groups ranger is better then Warrior. In sPvP both classes have there pros and cons, and can be used in different ways.

I suggest start leveling both eventually you will be drawn to one or the other and you can always level another at a latter date. I have all classes to level 80 but I only ever seem to play the ranger class.

shadowpass.4236:

xXBurningEmberXx.6085:

Hah. No. Die. Now.

?

i think he means Never Die

Example
Spec full zerker
+ use 6/6/x/x/x traits including this trait
+ use protect me and signet of stone
+ Chain inv
= immortal damage dealer

Siroso.2769:

You may be thinking of countering rapid by applying retaliation to yourself. This will damage the ranger for each attack (of which I think there are 10?), resulting in around 2000-2800 damage, so that is a great idea!

I would suggest that active application of retaliation is a poor choice of for countering RF as you would have to eat 10k+ damage to deal 2.5k back not something i would do deliberately, if its passively in you build anyway then fair enough though.

one thing that i don’t under stand about all this QQ is that people are saying that they need to equip skills/traits just to counter LB, how where this people handling large volume for phycial damage before (Thief’s, hambows, GS Guards, shatter mezs, etc.)?

When I’m deciding on my build for the days play, I don’t think how am i going to handle a LB ranger or any other common build. I think how am i going to handle big physical damage, how am i going to handle condis, etc. Just by doing this i have some options when fighting a LB ranger (LB rangers don’t bother me unless they’re Fluffball).

I suppose as rangers we have some inherit hard counts to LB rangers such as Nature’s protection, Bark Skin, primal reflex’s and the all mighty companion’s defense. that’s before we start including skills. I’m sure that other classes must have some sort of versions of these.

jcbroe.4329:

It’s extremely fair to say that the build is still virtually unknown.

I fined this strange. There have been SotF/Rabid/Krait builds around since April patch and they were effective then, granted that the CD reduction on Entangle is a size able buff to it.

guide on dulfy

NinjaEd.3946:

Q.Q is inevitable, just ignore it. I mean as a ranger, I wouldn’t be worried about nerfs resulting from forum Q.Q.

This is the point I’m trying to make, is there any value in replying in these type of thread, what does any one gain apart from adding fuel to the fire.

I’m am sure (hopeful) that in the future that the ranger class (and others) will continue to get balanced. I certainly am not worried about getting a big fat nerf on LB I don’t play the build anyway because as it’s an ineffective 1 trick pony (i do if for lols in hotjoin every now and again).

Should we even bother replying to threads such this one

I was reading through the above thread and i almost replayed then i realized that, to what end, what would be the value in doing so. If i construct a thoughtful post all that will happen is it will be ignored because it is to hard to argue against, or some sort of whinging i should have to deal with this rubbish, or most likely it will be misinterpreted or twisted to suit the “lb hatters” argument.

Whats the point, all we serve to do is keep the momentum of the thread going. I am all for trolling haters but to a extent even this does nothing but feed them.

nagymbear has kindly given us something that we can use as a standard reply this thread maybe we should just be replying with a link to this thread instead of just arguing a point the will not be well received.

Any way just food for though

first up Eura HAHAHAHAHAHA

I think that champ solos are the only legitimate use for the “BearBow”

I would start with this build and adapt after each fail, my first attempted woud use drakes for pets to see if i can keep them alive.

The principle behind this is you use hunters shot to keep the agro on you pet (if they start attacking you use hunters shot and wait it out) and use rapid fire (and maybe barrage) on recharge, the GM trait in marks could change between Eagle eye, predator’s onslaught and read the wind I’m not sure which is best.

having trouble with the longbow ranger epidemic, are those pesky dogs nibbling at you ankles.

well the ranger community is here to help, for all the information you need to fight longbow rangers see

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/How-to-fight-longbow-rangers/first#post4481169

PS can i have your stuff when you quit

I honestly don’t believe that we do that mush less damage then a war/guard in the frontline, and i mean this assuming our pet is dead and given the exact same gear/consumables set up say pvt/stones/hoebrek runes/bloodlust stacks.. This is due to our trait set up. most of our good stuff for zerging is in offensive traitlines

If we compare these two builds from metabattle.
Warrior
Guard
To my build
Ranger
I’ve use the same gear and consumables for all builds

Offensive stats
Power
Warrior: 2361
Guard: 2356
Ranger: 2548

Crit chance
Warrior: 926 (4%)
Guard: 1063 (11%)
Ranger: 1426 (28%) I included 150/7% for spotter

Crit damage
Warrior: 200 (163%)
Guard: 300 (170%)
Ranger: 200 (163%) great-sword or 350 (173%) Axe-WH

I am not saying that that we do more damage then heavies there is a lot more to consider here such as modifiers, ability to generate might stacks and if we have spotter so do those around us etc.

But we do have more power (even more so if you run Prysins traits) more crit chance (this means more fire sigil proc’s as well) and on par crit damage. In my opinion we have just as much ability to survive (many warriors and guards go down well before i do) and we provide our own brand of utility.

All I’m really saying is the we are not kitten 30% by our pet being worthless as alot of people believe. Also the the best insult you can give a heavy is “how did you go down my pet is still alive?”

i sure that the damage bonus works, i’ve tested it comparing maul and rapid fire (i tested it on moose’s in a wvw bl). but I’m not convinced that the speed buff works on the player.

I play full melee ranger in T1 hear is how i go about it

I change a few things out depending on the situation some times i change MT for SoS and some times Entangle for RaO, and i try to find a balance in my gear depending how the fights are going

Gaile Gray has hit the nail on the head, fair chance you will get plenty of help. it may even be a good idea to look back a few pages in the ranger forum and you might find some suggestions already there.

if you do post in the ranger forums make sure you also post which part of the game you play most of all (WvW, PvE, Dundges, Fractals etc.), as that has the biggest impact. on what armor you should use

If this helps I have a celestial set, a zerker set, I’m making an apothecary set, i frequently use a exotic set of Pvt and i some time use an exotic set of rabid. This is because i play all parts of the game.