Guild Wars 2

I look forward to you stirring up the pvp and wvw forums

I switched my sinister armour and weapons to vipers and use sinister trinkets. With that setup you get just over 20% duration. In a pvp context I think that vipers is better as it also effects our soft cc as well which I believe that makes up for any lost in damage

food for though, if you are taking the majority of the damage, then you need to heal you allies less so by extension you are doing you job as a healer

those stun beakers are a good idea, i means we have more opportunity to drop the WS trait line for something else nice

Every thing i post below is pre heart of thorns, as we have not figured it out for our selfs yet, but it will get you going

PvE

http://dulfy.net/2014/07/05/gw2-ranger-pve-class-guide-by-lorek-and-cell/

Some builds – all game modes
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/New-Builds-List-50-builds-All-modes/first
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki

it will work just fine. I would consider guard a wasted utility mabe LR or QZ for a stun beaker or another signet or even a trap

Don’t for get you can slow you opponents ability to move with cripples, and imobs. also not all players and classes can constant kite and use skills, melee builds don’t spend the entire time kiting. people stand still to stomp and rez.

I have been favoring the lynx of late in short bow builds because you get two crippling shots between pounces (which also causes bleeds based on pet condi). If you fire off crip shot then f2 your f2 lands more reliably particularly if you have taunt.

I pick my pet based on the buildI’im running at the time

what about all the other cool stuff you can do with a ranger thats not related to the druid.

(though i think druid will make a great secondary to what ever I’m try to do at the time anyway)

I play ShortBow alot in pvp and wvw roaming here is my current flavor of the month

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fjEqQLLWwCmsAVLGMEq/Ae2cu7gUvF4AY0L9KWJF-TZhAwATuAA/fCAAOIA82fQcZAA

This is the druid version that i was playing with a bit over the weekend seem to work pretty well

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fnEqAtsglsCmsAUtgFDBDOrOWTrNdgUXLgJAM6KdVsSK-TZhAwATuAA/fCAAOIA82fQcZAA

I cant que up after being stuck

need more screen caps!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don’t think brutal and healing power should be used in the same comment.

so gw2skills has been updated

so hears the rough front liner wvw build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNBmOD7kRFogVslFwkVgoVswIYwR1q6W1Z0NCOdMhrvVAIlj8B4iA-T1xGABA8EAwTJYuXEgEV/Zo9HWS5Hb6GAA-w

I would imagine the damage from traits is from the pets. I believe that poising master is from is from ours but companions might and sharpen edges is should be from theirs i might have to do some testing in the mists.

But on a positive note. i was wondering around letter my Cat solo wvw sentrys and was getting up to 10 bleed stacks ticketing for 1000 but averaging about 6 ish ticking for about 700 (depending on when it mauled)

this used sharpen edges, expertise training and companions might
for a spider i was get some good poison numbers in bursts but the spider wasn’t criting often enough to get much bleeding going but with a bit of fury or spotter is might kitten.

Ive just noticed the new pets in the management window (probably been there a while) but i cant see there stats though.

Does hidden barbs effect your pet???

not quite

having less then 700 is now less effective then before and having more then 700 is more effective then before. zero has always been zero and pets had zero

I couple i had in mind are

Sinister (or celestial) SB/A-T (maybe staff) for roaming possible strong hold~

Seltter BM bunker A-T/Staff~

Cleric Team Fight healer~

WvW Frontline healer~

Update/Variation to my Sinister SB roaming build based on the condition damage including to pets.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fjEqQLL2vCmsAVLGMEq/Ae2avf3UvF4AY0L9TWyykA-TViAABdtPwfPAA1XYASlgAcQAiW3Q1q/gmyPuvCABAQA466co7coDtUA3NNC-w

There is a lot of negative threads here at the moment so I though the I would post something positive.

Condition damage for pets was the item that stood out the most to me form the live stream and patch notes. I mostly just laughed when I heard about the WHaO change. Not only is this a buff to our pets but it is also a buff to some traits, weapon skills and to a lesser extent our down state.

Some of the things the I have found to be effective

Skirmishing/Short bow builds using “Sharpened Edges” and Short bow 4 for pet bleeds (testing spider for this)
BM bunkers using “Companion’s Might” and cats it gives me a reason to not use Go for the Eyes or shout trait.

I am also considering giving up “Oakheart Salve” for Expertise Training
It is also a minor buff to Refined Toxins.

I think that this changes as it quite a big step in the right direction.

PS: in before someone complains about this should have been implement 3 years ago

Ehecatl.9172:

My guess is it was an attempt to create a PVE build that would let rangers use the longbow as a DPS option while keeping the pet in melee range and benefiting from the group’s boons, which would have been a fine buff to ranged builds and added some diversity to PVE content. Maybe they want ranged builds to be useful for raids.

This makes senses

I happen to agree with Eura I’m not terribly sure why it had the buff it strong and is and competitive to the other heals.

The only reasoning i can see is that you need to trait for it to be worth while and you would often be selecting the trait just for WhaO (rampage is a nice addition) where as with TU you could trait for its effects on the other WS skills and it a nice bouns on TU, Healing spring is good traited or untraited

So the only rational that i can see for the buff is to make it competitive untraited

I nearly fell on the floor laughing when is saw this on the dulfy twitchcon notes as the problems we are facing where highly predictable.

I’m in the same boat as kiwi

I got armor/trinkes for
- Apoth
- Zerker
- Sinister
- Pvt
- Cele
- Caverlier

and a variety of different weapons

I just made my first ascended staff today an it is celestial (i have celestial every thing for when needed) as it will be the first set of stats ill used until i understand how it works

Depends what the damage is like but I think that the staff will rarely be a primary weapon for me except for playing heal bot.

PvP
If i where to go condi bunker bm i think that i would use a/t-staff
if i where to go cleric bm i would use either s/a – staff or gs-staff
if i where to go cele SB i might use SB-staff but more likely SB-x/t
If i where to go full healer for team fights i would use Staff/gs (gs for the block stun and gap closer)

Im not sure how i would use staff in pve ill have to wait for Hot content to see

WvW zerging most like staff-A/WH staff for the heals and Axe for the tags

Roaming i have no idea yet im not sure whether staff has any use in a solo environment
I cant see a use for lb/staff yet

Fluffball.8307:

For WvW I think just running a normal build (longbow, a/d + s/t etc) and using druid for sustain would be the way to go. Hard to say without trying it.

This was my thoughts as well.

I think that dropping Natures Magic or wilderness survival (depending on what you were already doing) for Durid will be a good plan. if you where going to build a build sole around the druid staff i would suggest celestial or cleric. but in that case you damage will be coming from the pet mostly.

this style of build was the first one to jump out at me form wvw roaming

my line of thinking was

SK 1/3/2
WS 2/2/2
DR 1/3/3

SB/A-T
TU LR/QZ/(Glyph of the Tides) Entangle

some where between sinister and celestial stats
krait runes
generosity and torment on the bow
and torment and soldering on the axe and torch

i am really looking foreword to ancient seeds it a gold mine

hasn’t a thread like this appeared after every elite revel.

I love the silverwastes armor

I love the silverwastes armor

Great job Heimskarl keep it up

updated version of my sinister roaming build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fjEqQLL2vCmsAVLGMEKv1fhZvf3UvF4AY0L9SWxSA-TViAABdtPwfPAA1XYASlgAcQAiW3Q1q/gmyPuvCABAQA466co7coDtUA3NNC-w

threw on some celestial to make up for the toughness and vitality that was lost in the conversion to the specializations system. heaps of condition removal and 3 stun barkers. the reason i use nightmare and trapper runes over krait runes is because i use the armor set for pve as well.

First up I think the you should not use exactly the same build for both pve and wvw roaming. But you can adapt the same sort of build/stats to both.

I have been favouring sinister condition builds in Pve recently as well as wvw roaming and here is what I do. the first build is the pve variation.

Sinister Axe Torch this is for open world/events etc. and for dudgeons you would change it to this

If you ran this in wvw while you would clear camps very very quickly you will likely be killed easily. So you keep a set of celestial or rabid trinkets and a short bow in you bag you could change your build to:

condi Short bow/axe-torch you could also use SB/A-D or SB/S-T depending on what you like.

If you never wanted to change you build you could use the roaming build I pve but you don’t needed that much defence.

The blank utility could be any of the signets, “sic’em” another survival skill.

/fifteen charters

in the context of wvw roaming, celestial is a great set, as all builds the you can think of can work wearing celestial gear (glass LB being the exception where you really need to be full zerker)

celestial jewelry is well and truly worth it be cause you can use it to make a glass build more tanky or a bunker build more glassy.

it is a great set to have available, i use it a lot when i am experimenting with builds.

Currently don’t use it in pve use either zerker or sister as the defensive stats are wasted

Dark Saviour.9410:

Considering WvW achievements, I don’t believe it is even possible.

i believe that i saw in a thread well over a year ago that it would take a life long virgin over 10 years to achieve some of the wvw titles

jewishjoyride.4693:

I did not misread. I gave it anyway.

Fair enough.

I’ve updated the build in my OP to reflect only the components that are important to me that are unlikely to change.

The reason that i am interested in peoples options on runes is that i don’t want to spend up to 80 gold on a set just to change my mind in 2 days time.

I would use trooper runes as i love having a bar full of condi clears and stun breakers. They would be wasted if i decided that i want to use wilderness knowledge for the fury and then have Trolls, LR, QZ on my bar so the only shout that i would likely have in that case would be the elite.

I am very partial to liss runes as at the very least i will always have either Rampage or entangle on. but from experience so far mass condis are not causing me any problems its the constantly reapplying condis that I seam to die to such as p/d theifs and condi mezs. Hence the currently equipped Mel runes.

any more suggestion about runes??? as I’m still kinda stumped.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

btw, the build has no GM chosen for WS, was it EB?

I deliberately left a few things out to try and stay clear of a build discussion, i possible should have left some more information out try and to try and drive that point home

@jewishjoyride whilst i thank you for taking the time write down your thoughts, i think you misread my original post. i was not after overall build advice just runes

This is in relation to duel melee wvw roaming

I’m having trouble deciding on what runes to use on the following build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAR8XCctQ4PQWC8p/B-T1AHABHq+DAPBA50NQKgx2aB-w

keep in mind things are variable, such as the exact traits, utility and amount of clerics in the build.

So far I have tried
Rage – because this build is all about the fury and their cheep
Evasion – didn’t like as i dodge to stay alive not to proc stuff
Melandru – Currently using mostly because i didn’t want to spend the money on hoelbrak just to overwrite them when i change my mind

And i am considering
Pack – solid set for any power build, shortest proc on fury
Ranger – well… damage
Pirate – that bird
Defender – grate rune on any build
Dywaner – to help maintain oak salve and bark skin and counter DoT’s i have good regen up time though
Liss – condi clear on elite, i could drop wilderness survival and take skirmishing and run HS
Trooper – it is a shout build, but then i would be stuck running shouts

there are other ok choices as well, it is almost a case of to many good choice so i cant decide.

what do you guys think? try not to get to hung up on my build as it varies anyway depending on my mood and what classes i am running in to most. just think of it as any build based on Remorseless, Fury and ferocity.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/New-Builds-List-40-builds-All-modes

this is a bit more current. look at builds in the pve section, there are longbow builds in the dungeon section.

for general open world, map completion and story i would use something like this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRjEqQLL2vCGsAXLG2Dq92DgzmH4AeE+O4Ie6UeSJkaF-TFSBwAP3fooyvHPBgIKBvp+DKdBIM/B4SAAA-w if i wanted to use lb

Chokolata.1870:

Why would you even spec into BM if you are running with a zerg? Go MM, WS and NM.

because the shout trait, grate sword trait and axe trait are great for melee ranger in zergs

there is some good information for builds in all modes in this thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/New-Builds-List-40-builds-All-modes

i normally play melee in zerges but if i where to run bows i would do this
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRjUqQLLWxCOsAVLGIEqt0Dgqun3VIG+a-T1AFgACPAg69HAuAAAA-w

as far a armor stats, i left them out as you will have to find you own balance of power stats, but i would start out as soldiers stats and gradually change to zerker piece by piece as you get better

use either zerker or sinister gear.
Main hand axe is our best weapon for tagging mobs in event farming.
Bows are or for event farming if you use the appropriate percing trait.
Great sword is good for moving around the map.

here is a zerker power build (use great sword as needed)
here is a sinister condition build

here is a dungeon build
https://youtu.be/3ljux9o5FGM

and here is the dulfy class guide though it has not been updated for the recent sepcilization changes
http://dulfy.net/2014/07/05/gw2-ranger-pve-class-guide-by-lorek-and-cell/

one thing you have to remember if you get hit by 2 or 3 condi bombs at the same time you are going to die just like if you get hit by 2 or 3 zerker bursts at the same time.

I like to use a mix of active and passive condi cleanses

So most of my builds will have sigils of purity or generosity (even both some times) and signet of renewal then i will use the Wilderness Knowledge trait with Trolls, LR and entangle. Often I will use evasive purity unless i cant fit that trait

and if you really hate condis you could do this

you will find something in this thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/New-Builds-List-30-builds-All-modes/page/3#post5280715

Keep in mind a build good for roaming is not always good for zerging and vice verser

interesting build certainly worth playing around with

on a side not, why do people put dd celes on such a high pedestal, I get it in spvp but in wvw roaming they give me very little trouble on a few of the different builds that I run. though i don’t always get to kill them as they FGS and run away.

I chop and change builds a lot depending on my mood.

So here is a list of the builds i have been running since patch in wvw roaming

Glassbow nothing to see here similar to others

Apothcary bm bunker pure duelist build almost un-killable (i prefer a/t-s/d for wvw and a/d-s/t for spvp) abit slow around the map and slow at soloing camps

cele bm similar to the apoth bunker but with a bit more punch, abit quicker around the map and solo camps faster, acceptable 1v1 ability, can use shortbow as well. im using this or the apoth build in pvp at them moment

sinister shortbow very fun glassy build with the fastest camp clear of my builds (particularly if you use torch off-hand) I’m still working on this as i am not having as much success as i did before patch with it (I may drop NM for BM) can use Sinister, rampage , celestial or rabid.

duel melae cavalier/remorselessness another very fun versatile build to play with mixed success good solo build, good in small fights and ok in large fights very quick across the map, not the greatest for clearing camps due to the blind spam guards.

Front line zerger this is what in running in guild raids at the moment

I’ve been doing this

And it seams to be doing pretty well, no trouble surviving (at least no different to before). spam-able chill and weakness for every one. I’m still deciding between Natures magic and skirmishing. Protective Ward is just to good

Skirmishing version looks like this

Ive been using bm bunker which has been working ok, defently has more killing power then before the patch

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VKFk73;1F-v-d2JEF-0;9V4a;1a_b;0237147056;4PsW5T;1nBnBnBnB9w

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i going to have see how it plays out but I’m in the nm camp at the moment
Fortifying bond, bountifully hunter and lingering Magic are nothing to sneeze at. Also we don’t know what the boon FS is going to proc with Natures vengeance yet it could be quickness (though i doubt it)

jcbroe.4329:

The only limitation I see on builds is having to go Wilderness for now. Outside of that, with the right combination of stats and weapons corresponding to the traits, any 2 lines combined with Wilderness has potential.

I have to agree, the only must is WS and i don’t see how i can fit in poison master as it is currently a trait that is use a lot.