Guild Wars 2

Don’t take anyone’s word for it, everyone has a different experience and opinion. Personally I liked pvp a million times better 2 or 3 years ago than now. Just go try a few matches and see for yourself.

I don’t know if it’s balanced but it sure is boring that there’s not a lot of viable builds anymore. So if balanced means everyone runs the same exact build then I’d rather have it unbalanced. Also I find it very frustrating how fast most of my teams die, I just really don’t see the point in everyone getting 1 shotted… how is that fun, I know that’s what a lot of people asked for but I seriously don’t see how it’s fun or makes any sense.

Well the OP is comparing female to male armor so I think it does go along with the subject. There’s really not that many naked female armors as everyone thinks, but yea males probably have a few less skimpy pieces than females do. The point is we ALL need more revealing armors that are all as equally revealing in both the male and female version. I still think we need Kasmeers and Farens bathing suits. Those would make a lot of people happy both male and female.

stale.9785:

Gilburt.9146:

Vyrulisse.1246:

Shiyo.3578:

I like it how it is and want more revealing female armors.

Likewise. I like my characters to look sexy in games. Personally I’m tired of being chastised for that preference.

Yeah, well there are plenty of options for you and very little for players who don’t want their female characters to have revealing armor…

Math says you’re wrong dude. The covered versus skimpy ratio is something like 80:20, if not MORE skewed to covered.

The fact that nobody ever chooses covered says more about human psychology than the available armour sets.

I see almost everyone wearing the exact same armor set, there’s only like a couple of sets that shows any skin and EVERYONE chooses those sets. So that might be why some people think there’s tons of skimpy armor in this game when it’s actually a few sets that everyone is wearing. There’s tons of covering armor, most of it is covering, but you don’t see it often being worn because most people choose 1 of the couple of slightly revealing sets. Most outfits they add to the gem store are extremely concealing and big and bulky or with butt capes also. I’ve noticed from reading dulfy gem store outfit updates that whenever certain people run out of skin showing armor or outfits to complain about they start complaining about " boob plates" >.< Some people just don’t want armor or outfits to be even remotely sexy, but that is most definitely the minority. I don’t understand why they don’t make more sexy, skin/fur/leaf showing sets for both male and female that the majority loves.

One word.. Play ( it and see for yourself )
You should be able to answer your own question after 1 or 2 matches

Solo queue was never removed from gw1 it’s still there today, and it’s called jade quarry, fort aspenwood and random arenas. Team arenas was removed though. So you got that backwards. And I’d say the main reasons why people leave pvp is because of horrible matchmaking, premades farming solo players, and boring game play with limited amount of viable builds. And there’s really not a very good reward for playing it either especially if you already have the back piece or don’t want the back piece. And you can’t really compare gw2 pvp to gw1 pvp since gw1 has many many pvp areas to play and gw2 only has 1.

Rincewind.1207:

First of all who said the pvp community in GW2 should be big ? Shaogin.2679 has fully understood the problems and thoughts I ve posted here . The only one actually !!!

Removing shinnies that people get through out spamming matches in solo q for a Legendary backpack or a title that we all know is a AP hunt ! Why PvP has achievements which make people to come and frm them ? Hunt them to increase their
PvE rank ……. The only loot that counts is the team loot in the season league , but even there making a team 5-6 days before the season ends will get you a decent loot without taking any pvp effort just erase and make teams get you a decent rank even having 1 win game !

Someone above said that people would go away if the solo q is removed to play overwatch …. I though it was a serious discussion here ! Forcing people to team up will make them adapt AND will make them to understand why GW2 doesn’t need solo q ! I don’t understand why Dungeons/Fractals/Raids are more important or more difficult than PvP and they force you to team up … ok then lets put solo in Dungeons/Fractals/Raids !!!!! It would be awesome for me instead of lfg to solo q in a dungeon !

Guild Wars is a game that CANNOT be soloed ! It was the first thing I learned in GW1 and in GW2 I see how they are ruining this point of view …. how anet is ruining the great PvP world GW1 had ! How they ruin teamplay by forcing solo q …. I have hundrends of players in my blocklist who lack basic map mechanics but even the less they have somehow reached diamond/legendary division ! I also have a lot of players cursing/insulting/afking cause first midfight went bad/players without HoT feeding the opponents ….. Solo q in PvP when you are supposed to fight an organized 5vs5 strategic battle is a waste of time … maybe you ll win a lot / maybe will lose a lot but the thing is that is based on LUCK !!!! I don’t want to write examples of what I say cause I ll need 10 threads to post them but I am sure all of you had same experience in this soloq !

Solo q should be removed ….. I ll stand by that always …. solo q is kitten in PvP … it makes the game worse from every corner you see it !

If they made it possible to do dungeons, fractals and raids solo then I might actually try to do them, like in gw1 with my hero’s. But as it is, I’ll never go anywhere near any of that content.

Zynt.5769:

Ellie.5913:

The best thing would be to separate team and solo queue like it used to be so people can be happy to play against solo players as a solo player and against organized teams as an organized team. And yes of course we know we have to work together with our team to win… if the team is even willing to do that, some aren’t, that’s why it’s not fair to put a random team of solo players against an organized premade team. And for goodness sakes remove mmr from this game it only manipulates matches to cause 1 team to win and the other to lose before the match even starts. Oh and removing profession stacking would be nice, I can’t count how many times I’ve been on a mostly necro team or mostly engie team that totally smashed the other team to smithereens, they didn’t have a chance.

You do see some baffling stuff in this game. Last night my team managed to hold the enemy at far. The enemy Thief managed to sneak his way out to try and cap our close. I was on Mesmer, so I had a portal setup up at close and mid. The second I came through the portal and came around the corner to fight him on point, he just ran off, with no engagement. Didn’t try to damage me or force me to retreat or anything.

He tried to go for mid, so naturally I portal back to mid. Same thing happens. He just runs off without putting up any fight at all. We ended up winning by like 500 – 60 or something.

Yea he was probably very used to being killed so tried to avoid it at all costs >.< It’s very difficult to stay alive in this game, especially if you get put against an organized premade then it’s like impossible to stay alive. My teams usually drop like flies within a matter of seconds.

The best thing would be to separate team and solo queue like it used to be so people can be happy to play against solo players as a solo player and against organized teams as an organized team. And yes of course we know we have to work together with our team to win… if the team is even willing to do that, some aren’t, that’s why it’s not fair to put a random team of solo players against an organized premade team. And for goodness sakes remove mmr from this game it only manipulates matches to cause 1 team to win and the other to lose before the match even starts. Oh and removing profession stacking would be nice, I can’t count how many times I’ve been on a mostly necro team or mostly engie team that totally smashed the other team to smithereens, they didn’t have a chance.

Yea well if you’re a socializing, friend making type of person that would be the ideal thing to do, but not everyone is like that, some people play alone, and that’s becoming more and more impossible to do in this game.

Well you’ve been lucky then, I’ve had the exact opposite experience when it comes to grouping with people, plus my anxiety disorder just makes it worse. I almost have a panic attack when I try to deal with people sometimes. ( I’ve found most people on the internet to be not so nice)

Shaogin.2679:

Ithilwen.1529:

@stickerHappy

Should I understand from your post that if I don’t have friends or a team I am not worthy? I come to GW2 to escape.. and find it more stressful than rl.

Do I really need to be a social networking ninja to win a few games?

No, PvP should not be about who gets the good teamups.

Because typing “Ele looking for group for ranked” in map chat is super hard…

It’s probably not hard getting into a group, but it sometimes can be extremely hard dealing with your group to the point that you or they stick around for more than 1 match. That’s why the majority of people rather play solo where there’s no butt-kissing expected. That’s why I usually don’t do anything in games where you are expected to make a group, it’s just way too stressful. But atm gw2 pvp is impossible as a solo player unless you have high mmr, so if you want to win you have to make a group, or just do like a lot of others have done including myself and just quit pvp.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Zenith.7301:

When will you stop this obnoxious crap. Stop making separate rules for armor. You either stick with revealing for both or covered for both.

This is getting really tiresome. I expect this out of some Korean grindfest.

Not you, a western company.

Really have nothing better to complain about eh? Here’s an idea. If you don’t like skimy armor don’t use it. Simple.

I think he’s complaining that there is no skimpy male armor. But to be honest there really isn’t any skimpy armor for male or female in this game. True there are a very few female pieces that shows a tiny bit of skin where the male version doesn’t, but I wouldn’t call it skimpy at all. We all need some skimpy armor, female and male. Heck some of the npc’s have skimpyer armor than we are allowed to have.
It’s summer time give us some summer cloths and bikinis/speedo’s like Lord Faren and Kasmeer had. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Lady_Kasmeer_Meade_(The_Secret_of_Southsun).jpg http://dulfy.net/2013/05/14/gw2-southsun-mini-faren-and-mini-kasmeer/

+ 1 , really good advice for keeping your sanity and zen

I’m all for more armor, something different from the butt-cape, trench coat, huge poofy extremely concealing armor we currently have. You can’t even see your norn’s tattoos or sylvari’s glow pattern in most of the stuff we have atm.

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Check out this armor set, the male version is more revealing than the female version.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Braham's_Heavy_Armor_Skin
Not super revealing but shows more skin than the female version does. My point is that this game needs more revealing armor for EVERYONE, and different types of armor, most of it has the same theme imo. I want to role play as an uncivilized wild amazonian woman who makes her cloths out of animal skins & furs & bones & teeth and doesn’t cover up too much, and avoids civilization unless I need to go there to kill some one. >.< But yea the female armor in this game is not revealing at all imo.

Aye, I’ve seen that armour. It’s not particularly what I’m after (Team Chrono can’t use it! I may upload the Team for reference).

I agree, however, more choice is good – but that choice must sit firmly based in equality. It currently doesn’t. And whereas I may disagree on how you want female armour, I certainly don’t like it when we can’t both get what we want!

We should take into account the game’s content rating, too, so it may never come to anything much more than we have. I’ve used AoC as a reference point, but it’s an 18-rated game here in Europe (don’t know about the US). GW2 is a 12-rated game, so I figure it would be somewhat unreasonable to expect the exact same treatment between what is ostensibly an adult game versus a kid/tween game.

Xena rocked, btw. I actually think that sort of outfit would be okay.

EDIT: The Sims 4 just had an update where players could choose to enable clothes as unisex. TS4 has the same content rating as GW2. My thinking there is there are certainly possibilities to explore within a content rating.

I agree, we both should get what we want ( not quite sure what you want but I’m sure I’ll never get what I want, I usually don’t) But I just went through and looked at almost every set of armor & outfit they have in this game and in most of them the male and female version looks almost exactly the same & both versions are VERY concealing with a few exceptions both ways. And I’m pretty sure not 100% sure but pretty sure gw1 and gw2 are rated the same and gw1 had WAY sexyer more revealing armor choices for both male and female, not sure why gw2 is soo against sexy and revealing armor when gw1 was all for it, seems were going backwards rather than forwards in this whole progression and freedom of choice thing. But anyways I hope you get whatever it is that you want eventually. PS. If the issue is men wanna wear woman cloths and vise versa, I don’t see a problem with that either, in lord of the rings online you can wear whichever outfit you like regardless of sex. Aint he pretty in his little sun dress and flower wreath

I had a post earlier in the thread. It has a picture of my Sneakytim in it, from AoC. That’s what I’d be ultimately after, but it’s not something I see happening.

Loved the LotRO chap! <3

I’m actually after freedom of expression, and the safety in which to have it. I think a game like this can be a positive voice for that, and if it doesn’t hurt anyone or our individual selves, then it should be a thing. I don’t have to want to do or even like a thing myself to know it’s important that others should be able to experience it, although my personal constants are “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” and “another world is possible”. I know it there are some constraints because of content ratings – the world can’t and won’t change in a day, and constraint is necessarily a bad thing when we think of children (as this game does still cater to children with that content rating, and my own child is one of them). That TS4 comment was, however, something where positive, forward-thinking change has occurred, and shows what is possible.

OK I scrolled through and found your picture of your toon you were talking about and yes that is most definitely sexy, it kinda reminds me of an amazon outfit but a man’s version. I’d be VERY happy if they added stuff like that to this game in male AND female version. I think your country probably has way sexyer themed games and stuff than ours for some reason. ( USA ) But gw1 did have sexyer armor than gw2 anyways. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Necromancer_Elite_Scar_Pattern_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Necromancer_Elite_Scar_Pattern_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Monk_Flowing_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Monk_Flowing_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Paragon_Vabbian_armor_f.jpg (paragon my own personal favorite) http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Paragon_Elite_Sunspear_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ranger_Elite_Druid_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Warrior_Elite_Gladiator_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Warrior_Elite_Gladiator_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Mesmer_Obsidian_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ritualist_Vabbian_armor_m.jpg ( I always loved the vabbian boy rit armor but most dudes wouldn’t wear it for some reason) http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ritualist_Obsidian_armor_f.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ritualist_Exotic_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ritualist_Elite_Kurzick_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Necromancer_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg Soo soo many options that are all just sexy .

NO it won’t die, we shall keep it alive forever!

Reaper Alim.4176:

Ellie.5913:

“Skill” has nothing to do with pvp in gw2 and most likely never will, whoever has the best premade wins or whoever has the best teammates thanks to high mmr wins, the rest are just here to be farming material for everyone else to use to get to the top. So if you really really REALLY want the wings just get into a good premade team some how, that’s about the only way you can win these days especially if your mmr is destroyed to the point that you get bots as teammates sometimes, which I have right before I quit ranked pvp.

Well said but on that note what about the PvPers are not after the wings. The ones that just want competitive and fun ranked matches while not having deal with the hassle of running on a team of different minded players? What about us I mean really the wings are not only ugly IMO but have no pristige what so ever as anyone who farms noncompetitively can get them.

Atm in GW2’s sPvP there is no home for my kind to lay our heads down but in the past there was. But ever since this childish lazy attempt by ANet to push to make GW2 a eSports"cheaply advertise GW2 as a pvp game" sPvP in general IMO have been the least competitive I’ve ever seen it in GW2.

I don’t know, that’s why I quit playing pvp. I just log on do my pvp daily in unranked then usually log off. I don’t think there’s any place for us who want a fun diverse competitive pvp game, if only gw1 would come back to life……that was the last extremely fun and competitive pvp game I had the pleasure of playing. Pvp in gw2 was ok in the beginning, not perfect but enjoyable enough to do it, then they changed everything and made it kind of unbearable. So yea I really don’t know.

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Check out this armor set, the male version is more revealing than the female version.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Braham's_Heavy_Armor_Skin
Not super revealing but shows more skin than the female version does. My point is that this game needs more revealing armor for EVERYONE, and different types of armor, most of it has the same theme imo. I want to role play as an uncivilized wild amazonian woman who makes her cloths out of animal skins & furs & bones & teeth and doesn’t cover up too much, and avoids civilization unless I need to go there to kill some one. >.< But yea the female armor in this game is not revealing at all imo.

Aye, I’ve seen that armour. It’s not particularly what I’m after (Team Chrono can’t use it! I may upload the Team for reference).

I agree, however, more choice is good – but that choice must sit firmly based in equality. It currently doesn’t. And whereas I may disagree on how you want female armour, I certainly don’t like it when we can’t both get what we want!

We should take into account the game’s content rating, too, so it may never come to anything much more than we have. I’ve used AoC as a reference point, but it’s an 18-rated game here in Europe (don’t know about the US). GW2 is a 12-rated game, so I figure it would be somewhat unreasonable to expect the exact same treatment between what is ostensibly an adult game versus a kid/tween game.

Xena rocked, btw. I actually think that sort of outfit would be okay.

EDIT: The Sims 4 just had an update where players could choose to enable clothes as unisex. TS4 has the same content rating as GW2. My thinking there is there are certainly possibilities to explore within a content rating.

I agree, we both should get what we want ( not quite sure what you want but I’m sure I’ll never get what I want, I usually don’t) But I just went through and looked at almost every set of armor & outfit they have in this game and in most of them the male and female version looks almost exactly the same & both versions are VERY concealing with a few exceptions both ways. And I’m pretty sure not 100% sure but pretty sure gw1 and gw2 are rated the same and gw1 had WAY sexyer more revealing armor choices for both male and female, not sure why gw2 is soo against sexy and revealing armor when gw1 was all for it, seems were going backwards rather than forwards in this whole progression and freedom of choice thing. But anyways I hope you get whatever it is that you want eventually. PS. If the issue is men wanna wear woman cloths and vise versa, I don’t see a problem with that either, in lord of the rings online you can wear whichever outfit you like regardless of sex. Aint he pretty in his little sun dress and flower wreath

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Lokki.1092:

Come back after a 2 year break from this game and this is still an argument?

Took about 5 minutes to check every female armor in the game and looks like there is still more non revealing armor for female characters than revealing armor.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_heavy_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_medium_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_light_armor
In fact most of the female armor sets I’ve never seen in game because all the female characters wear the same few skimpy sets, especially the light armor classes. Seriously if someone told me the Sorcerer’s, Embroidered, Winged, and Inquest tops were the only ones available for female characters I would almost believe them.

This isn’t an Arena net problem though. They cannot control that people overwhelmingly pick the skimpy options.

Now I can get behind adding more Conan the Barbarian gear for the fellas. The male options are so samey it’s boring. But to say female characters only have half naked options is quite false since they outright have less half naked options than fully clothed.

Whenever I look at the female armor in this game 1 word comes to mind…..nuns, they want us to dress like nuns. I don’t even wear boring conservative cloths in real life, so why on earth would I want to wear them in a fantasy game…

Except we’re not really talking about the armour skins for the ladies in this thread. We’re talking about the fact that the armour skins for the men aren’t up to scratch in comparison.

There is such a huge difference between armour designs is some sets it’s a completely different set altogether. Point being, for female armour, we have a fair few sets to choose from to go skimpy – some of you might want more variety of those and it’s okay to ask for that, but can’t you see that this thread is doing as well, just for male armours? Going on about the female armours is out of place here (sorry to pick on your post, it’s just the last in the thread at the time of reading – I don’t want to come across as picking on you specifically, Ellie – I’m really talking to everyone discussing the want for more revealing female armours). I get you’re all passionate about what you’d like to see, but let’s try to stick to one thing at a time.

The male armour skins do not have the same level of choice, and this thread is asking for that. Nearly all the male sets are covered-up, and when they do show some skin, it often is questionable in aesthetic. We’re asking for straight-up equality in design: if the ladies’ armour is revealing, so too should it be for the men.

So can we get back on track and perhaps start discussing further design ideas for male armours? If we can establish some ideas as to what we all find appealing in male armours (as some of us have done already in the thread), then it can only be helpful to Anet.

It is actually on the same subject…He said female armor is naked and male isn’t. And what I and a few others are saying is female armor is just as covering as male armor, check out those links on the female armor, most of it is extremely covering. Sure you have a couple of armor pieces that shows maybe 2 inches of skin here and there, but you also have male armor that shows the same amount of skin as well. The point is no armor is very revealing in this game male or female. It’s all pretty much the same.

Ah, fair enough. It’s just I have both male and female characters (I have Team Chrono), and they are of all races. I have trouble with finding suitably revealing stuff on the male, and trouble being what I consider tasteful with the female characters – I do not wish my ladies to wear the fully covered stuff, I’d like middle ground – more or less how I am in RL (I live in Norway. It’s not usual to have swimwear on all the time, and I wouldn’t even if it were an option). I’d argue there is indeed revealing armour for ladies in this game. Not equally across the armour types, sure, but you can’t straight-up tell me it’s equal. It isn’t. Not by the longest of shots.

Check out this armor set, the male version is more revealing than the female version.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Braham's_Heavy_Armor_Skin
Not super revealing but shows more skin than the female version does. My point is that this game needs more revealing armor for EVERYONE, and different types of armor, most of it has the same theme imo. I want to role play as an uncivilized wild amazonian woman who makes her cloths out of animal skins & furs & bones & teeth and doesn’t cover up too much, and avoids civilization unless I need to go there to kill some one. >.< But yea the female armor in this game is not revealing at all imo.

Ceridwen.6703:

Ellie.5913:

Lokki.1092:

Come back after a 2 year break from this game and this is still an argument?

Took about 5 minutes to check every female armor in the game and looks like there is still more non revealing armor for female characters than revealing armor.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_heavy_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_medium_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_light_armor
In fact most of the female armor sets I’ve never seen in game because all the female characters wear the same few skimpy sets, especially the light armor classes. Seriously if someone told me the Sorcerer’s, Embroidered, Winged, and Inquest tops were the only ones available for female characters I would almost believe them.

This isn’t an Arena net problem though. They cannot control that people overwhelmingly pick the skimpy options.

Now I can get behind adding more Conan the Barbarian gear for the fellas. The male options are so samey it’s boring. But to say female characters only have half naked options is quite false since they outright have less half naked options than fully clothed.

Whenever I look at the female armor in this game 1 word comes to mind…..nuns, they want us to dress like nuns. I don’t even wear boring conservative cloths in real life, so why on earth would I want to wear them in a fantasy game…

Except we’re not really talking about the armour skins for the ladies in this thread. We’re talking about the fact that the armour skins for the men aren’t up to scratch in comparison.

There is such a huge difference between armour designs is some sets it’s a completely different set altogether. Point being, for female armour, we have a fair few sets to choose from to go skimpy – some of you might want more variety of those and it’s okay to ask for that, but can’t you see that this thread is doing as well, just for male armours? Going on about the female armours is out of place here (sorry to pick on your post, it’s just the last in the thread at the time of reading – I don’t want to come across as picking on you specifically, Ellie – I’m really talking to everyone discussing the want for more revealing female armours). I get you’re all passionate about what you’d like to see, but let’s try to stick to one thing at a time.

The male armour skins do not have the same level of choice, and this thread is asking for that. Nearly all the male sets are covered-up, and when they do show some skin, it often is questionable in aesthetic. We’re asking for straight-up equality in design: if the ladies’ armour is revealing, so too should it be for the men.

So can we get back on track and perhaps start discussing further design ideas for male armours? If we can establish some ideas as to what we all find appealing in male armours (as some of us have done already in the thread), then it can only be helpful to Anet.

It is actually on the same subject…He said female armor is naked and male isn’t. And what I and a few others are saying is female armor is just as covering as male armor, check out those links on the female armor, most of it is extremely covering. Sure you have a couple of armor pieces that shows maybe 2 inches of skin here and there, but you also have male armor that shows the same amount of skin as well. The point is no armor is very revealing in this game male or female. It’s all pretty much the same.

shrek.1046:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

They afforded you the oppurtunity to work towards the Wings, it’s not their fault you won’t be able to achieve them.

The matchmaking for the last 2 season has not given a large portion of the player population a reasonable opportunity to work towards the wings because the deck is stacked against them with the matchmaking

VERY true. When this game was new and a couple years after I won most of my matches, ( and had a lot of builds to choose from compared to now)after leagues came out I lost pretty much all my matches especially after season 2 hit. This is the most screwed up matchmaking in the history of matchmakings and it might be the reason why pvp is very empty these days compared to before. Not to mention the fact that its so boring considering they destroyed most builds and every class has maybe 1 or 2 useful builds to choose from & it’s also not fun as a solo player to have to lose every single match simply because you choose to be a solo player who’s only gonna get farmed by organized premades over and over, come on where’ the fun in all that….

Lokki.1092:

Come back after a 2 year break from this game and this is still an argument?

Took about 5 minutes to check every female armor in the game and looks like there is still more non revealing armor for female characters than revealing armor.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_heavy_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_medium_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_light_armor
In fact most of the female armor sets I’ve never seen in game because all the female characters wear the same few skimpy sets, especially the light armor classes. Seriously if someone told me the Sorcerer’s, Embroidered, Winged, and Inquest tops were the only ones available for female characters I would almost believe them.

This isn’t an Arena net problem though. They cannot control that people overwhelmingly pick the skimpy options.

Now I can get behind adding more Conan the Barbarian gear for the fellas. The male options are so samey it’s boring. But to say female characters only have half naked options is quite false since they outright have less half naked options than fully clothed.

Whenever I look at the female armor in this game 1 word comes to mind…..nuns, they want us to dress like nuns. I don’t even wear boring conservative cloths in real life, so why on earth would I want to wear them in a fantasy game…

Blade.1843:

Equality please. Give the males more skimpy attire on all 3 armor types, and give the females more coverage options. Everyone wins and they have a choice about it.

Why would the females need more coverage options whenever most of the armor & outfits already is extremely covering…. we need more LESS covering armor, not more covering, all we have pretty much is concealing huge bulky armor for both female and male.

Not quite sure what you’re getting at but mmr has nothing to do with skill, mostly has to do with luck or having a premade to make it high. People with high mmr get put on teams that can win even if they go afk, people with low mmr get put on teams that will lose no matter if that 1 person is the best most totally super duper skilled pro pvp playing person in the history of games. Team game, good team wins not so good team loses, 1 persons skill level aint gonna make much of a difference. Most people know the outcomes in pvp here are predetermined. But go on and believe whatever you want

Roxanne.6140:

Ellie.5913:

Roxanne.6140:

I’m still waiting for a bikini skin for females to drop. I want yellow with two black dots on where the nipples should be. Or two red flowers for sylvari. I’m forced to wear clothes in real life and now being forced in game as well? kitten!

Tbh I can wear less cloths in real life than I can in this particular game, there just isn’t any revealing armor in this game, and what little bit people do come up with to try to simulate sexy EVERYONE is wearing it so there’s not any diversity whatsoever, not to mention all the body types pretty much look exactly the same.

Yea ikr. I mean when do u think they will ever let us walk around in oil and body jewellery

Erm well, I was thinking more of something like tribal armor, maybe like an amazon warrior would wear. If they ever made a bunch of tribal armor I’d buy every set as long as it wasn’t too concealing. Gotta have freedom to move around and do acrobatics and climb trees and stuff. And in the mans version there won’t be a shirt ofc.

“Skill” has nothing to do with pvp in gw2 and most likely never will, whoever has the best premade wins or whoever has the best teammates thanks to high mmr wins, the rest are just here to be farming material for everyone else to use to get to the top. So if you really really REALLY want the wings just get into a good premade team some how, that’s about the only way you can win these days especially if your mmr is destroyed to the point that you get bots as teammates sometimes, which I have right before I quit ranked pvp.

Roxanne.6140:

I’m still waiting for a bikini skin for females to drop. I want yellow with two black dots on where the nipples should be. Or two red flowers for sylvari. I’m forced to wear clothes in real life and now being forced in game as well? kitten!

Tbh I can wear less cloths in real life than I can in this particular game, there just isn’t any revealing armor in this game, and what little bit people do come up with to try to simulate sexy EVERYONE is wearing it so there’s not any diversity whatsoever, not to mention all the body types pretty much look exactly the same.

Ryou.2398:

anninke.7469:

Ryou.2398:

anninke.7469:

Ryou.2398:

Mustbeghosts.7043:

YES THIS! Nothing makes me go “Really? Come on!” than seeing an armor that is revealing on women but covers a man completely from the neck down. Is there some cultural reason, especially for the humans, that causes the men to dress so conservatively? From what I’ve seen, most male armors even have something to hide an already well-covered rear.

Male bodies are beautiful, give them armors as revealing as the female armor counterparts, or, really, a lore reason that men are such conservative dressers. It is noticeable.

Uh no do not make them as revealing, women naturally have more to show, especially in traditional fantasy where men dont shave legs. Now if you mean men should have the option to share bare chest they already do have some of those options.

just the opposite – DO make them as revealing. no one says people HAVE TO use those on their toons. and 3/5 playable races are totally not in need to shave anything anywhere be it male or female. (not talking about how i don’t understand what’s wrong with unshaved male legs.)

Thats silly, you dont need to make them as revealing, men dont need to wear skirts or whatever to reveal muscles which lets be honest here thats all men have to really show for.

the thing is, i LIKE men wearing skirts and other skimpy outfits. it’s not always only the muscles a lady enjoys seeing. this one here at least doesn’t even care for muscles all that much. so i’d heartily welcome a chance to dress my characters to my liking.

Why? By that logic you might as well make a female, because men cannot look like a female in this game, your just trying way to hard at this point. This is a game its not meant to represent a specific community, not everyone wants to see males cross dressing like that in an mmorpg, it would likely be to immersive breaking.

In Lord of the rings online men can wear women outfits and women can wear men outfits so it does happen, just not here….

Just bring back gw1 type of armor, they had revealing sets for both females AND males, I really don’t see any revealing sets of armor in this game period. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Monk_Flowing_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Necromancer_Elite_Scar_Pattern_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Warrior_Elite_Gladiator_armor_m.jpg http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Paragon_Elite_Sunspear_armor_m.jpg

Kastiel.1947:

When will triggered reaction stop? I expect this from radicalists but not from fellow gw2 players . Difeerrent genders have different clothing – surprise suprise . Jeez , you don’t see dude rocking around in mini skirts or mini shorts in the real world either ..

UM, I live close to the beach so I do see dudes running around in small shorts and no shirt and sometimes speedo’s , and girls running around in teeny tiny bikinis quite often. It’s a normal thing for a lot of us to not be too covered up in real life and it just seems like it shouldn’t be a big deal on a fantasy game either, why don’t we have more choices and options to dress how we want….

Soo butt capes and trench coats are easier to make or something? Seems like less material would be easier to do than more, but what do I know >.<

Why can’t we all have some sexy non-concealing armor, female AND male? We had it in gw1, why not gw2 also. Whoever made the armor in gw1 REALLY needs to come work for gw2, we have a serious lack of sexyness here. ( in the dances too, gw1 had super sexy dances as well)

Sooloo.1364:

I wish people would stop obsessing over the wings, it’s something you would earn then never display again after a week.
This reward has really made PvP unplayable.

I think the uneven team matching makes it unbearable, & the organized premades vs the unorganized pugs. I literally get nauseous whenever I try to play pvp on this game anymore. I can just imagine how new players feel whenever they attempt it for the first time in the state that it’s currently in…..

That’s why I quit pvp at the beginning of season 2,( even though I played ranked pvp non stop for about 3 years straight and was pretty high on the old leader board before all the messed up changes they made) the matchmaking is a joke and only gets worse over time, and the countless premades farming clueless unorganized pugs is also a not so funny joke. There’s really no point in playing pvp any more if you’re a solo player, it clearly wasn’t made for solo players, unless you’re 1 of the lucky few who have extremely high mmr thanks to being lucky with the matchmaking or being carried by a premade.

My favorite things to do in gw1 is jade quarry and alliance battles, those are the most fun pvp game modes I’ve ever played, (especially alliance battles) and they don’t allow premades against solo players. Also there’s no match making that tries to put a group of best players against a group of not so best players (how does that even make sense) its first come first serve and it worked great when there was actually people around playing. Not to mention all the hundreds of different build choices you had that added even more diversity and fun to it, and every profession having a different role was also nice and interesting, my personal favorite to play was healer monk or tanky dervish. And keys as a reward was a VERY nice reward in my opinion instead of a box of stuff that I just throw away.

dragonkain.3984:

lol, you expect freedom? freedom are not for us, we’re allowed to get only what they think is right, our opinions don’t matter, never forget this kids.

/endofhumanlifelessonnumber1

OK that made me laugh, but only because it’s so true.
Bleh I hate being told how to look what size my body parts must be, what type/style of armor/cloths I must wear, what kind of dance I must do if I wanna dance, what kind of skills I must use, what kind of game mode I must play, where I must play, how I must play, when I must win, when I must lose, and so on. WHY can’t I be free to be me?!?!?! Freedom and diversity and options are GOOD things not bad things. But oh well, lets all just be carbon copy robots then. We can be free & diverse & creative in real life(to a certain extent).

NeHoMaR.9812:

Why the game don’t just add player to lower division match? is that unfair? well, add a fictitious ruby icon to that player at the end, no one will notice.

Edited to use word Fictitious, the other word is banned for some strange reason.

Ha, I love this idea. Take all the people that are left in the game and move them all up to higher divisions, why not. winning is mostly about luck anyways so they might as well
Or they could make pvp the same way it is in gw1 and completely remove matchmaking altogether and just let it all be random, AND separate team players and solo players. I think it’d work. It definitely couldn’t make it any worse.

Furious.1283:

Ellie.5913:

Furious.1283:

Ellie.5913:

… and allow immature people on the forum to troll you and tell you to chop off body parts and all that bs? …

Hi Ellie, I was thinking the same thing.

Some of these people are, probably, those who reached legendary and think they are the only ones entitled to troll others that don’t.

Ithilwen, you have all my support. Just ignore some of them.

Hi Furious, yea I know. They got an easy ride to the top, most of them probably thanks to getting carried by high mmr and a premade team and figure kitten that was easy these noobs just need to kitten and l2p and stop complaining. But yea regardless of what you may or may not think I don’t think that gives anyone the right to troll. I still wanna know whats appealing about the wings though, they look so weird to me.

Those wings ARE weird, I wouldn’t fight or stress for them ever, not to mention the cost.

In my case, it was the challenge to see where I could get solo queuing, not far, obviously, so I’m not playing much, I’m just playing my dailies, but those wings definitely aren’t worth it.

Yea the way the game is set up you won’t get far if you play alone (unless you have really high mmr), since you will be facing good premades a lot and sometimes get a premade on your team that isn’t so good, if they’d separate solo players from team players like it used to be that would make it better and easier to progress. But you’d still have the issue of imbalanced teams like 1 team that consists of everything that counters the other team, in those cases you’d still lose a lot, but it would be easier anyways if team players and solo players weren’t all put together, I don’t see that ever happening though seems they like it just the way it is.
And the only legendary I’d put time , effort, and money in would be one of the weapons which do not require playing ranked pvp, those wings are hideous O.o

I’m not toxic, I know the pvp is really weird in this game and makes no sense, especially the matchmaking and the removing of diversity, if anything it bores me but it doesn’t anger me Sometimes I even try to teach the noobs on my team how to play even though most of the time they don’t listen >.<

If all the pvers left pvp then pvp would be totally empty, it’s already very empty compared to the way it used to be. And toxic people will be toxic no matter what, they are not only in ranked they are every where, and just enjoy being toxic, there’s no changing that, especially since you don’t really get much of a punishment for it even is some one does report you.

What about if they disable all visible chat and add a voice chat thing that is automatically turned on when you enter a match but is possible to turn off or mute certain people if you wish, that would solve the problem of harassment AND trying to type while you play. I think it’d work.

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

I’m tired of constantly encountering disgusting players with obnoxious comments for whatever reason in spvp. Can Anet plz make it so that there is no map chat in pvp matches as well as make the enemy team (and possibly your team) names hidden? So whispering isn’t possible.

Post this on reddit, people pay more attention to reddit than the forums, that’s why I decided to post my opinions about pvp toxicity on reddit.

Ranael.6423:

@Ellie: Pills are no replacement for education!
If someone in the street cannot control his anger, turns upset easily and throw some insults because it is getting out without control, I see how this person needs to channel his anger. It can be done either by medication or discussion.
In the present case, people get upset and take time to type on their keyboard, sometimes read what they have written before pushing Enter. It is like a forum, it is not as spontaneous. In that case I tend to think that people know what they are doing and do it on purpose : they want to be toxic towards someone.

There can be several reason (“you hurt my ego, I hurt yours in front of others”, “If I am mean enough to someone it will create a reaction in his gameplay”…..) but I don’t think it is a medical issue.

I don’t know but i was cyber bullied on here once a while back by some one I killed in pvp repeatedly, and that’s all I did, I didn’t speak 1 word to him, just killed him every time he came near my point. And he got so mad and started calling me the worst name he could think of, it was bad but what made it worse was he got everyone on his team to call me that word too. I felt soo bad that I just wanted to go some where and hide. So that kind of abuse does bad things to people and it should not be excused or permitted. If meds and or therapy would help them to not harm others that way then they should do it, and if they are just hateful cruel people they shouldn’t be allowed any where near the internet ever. That’s my thoughts on the subject

trunks.5249:

Ellie.5913:

I’ve noticed a lot more premade teams in unranked than there used to be, and every time I get put against a premade there my team usually loses by a lot. So if I had to guess I’d say that’s why. I’ve also noticed a lot of people in unranked who already have their wings so they will definitely beat anyone who’s new or testing builds if they end up on the opposing team. In other words, people who are usually in ranked are in unranked and it’s making it more difficult especially if you get put on a pug team who really doesn’t know what they are doing xD

the pre made you see in unranked are people practicing for ranked

I doubt it, if they were they would be in ranked by now. Last season I faced organized premades in unranked even at the end of the season, some people just prefer unranked.

Harper.4173:

Ellie.5913:

Ohhhh a cyber bully/verbal abuser post trying to justify why they have the right to verbally abuse people , NICE. This kinda reminds me of the show COPS while the dude gets arrested and hand cuffed hes talking the whole time trying to explain why he did what he did and how he was justified in committing the crime and shouldn’t be arrested for it, and should be allowed to commit crimes without any consequences grabs pop corn Carry on.

Cyber bully? Right.
I’ve had my fair share of vents in PvP. Some were nice – some might not have been so nice.
However – I’ve noticed a trend with people.
Anything you say is “abuse” to some.

Also I wasn’t justifying anything – in order to fix a problem one must first understand it. And as it seems Anet has not understood that you can’t match very good and very committed players with low skill carefree people and not have an issue there.

Matchmaking is poor at the moment – and that’s why you’re getting these problems.

Sorry dude, but the problem isn’t the people playing this or any other game to have fun and be happy. The problem of toxicity is within yourself. It’s not normal to be angry and always lashing out and insulting people and putting them down and all that stuff. The only way to fix this is for you to go see a psychiatrist and maybe get put on meds, that might help you with your problem, removing gamers from your game however, won’t. Goodluck.

I’ve noticed a lot more premade teams in unranked than there used to be, and every time I get put against a premade there my team usually loses by a lot. So if I had to guess I’d say that’s why. I’ve also noticed a lot of people in unranked who already have their wings so they will definitely beat anyone who’s new or testing builds if they end up on the opposing team. In other words, people who are usually in ranked are in unranked and it’s making it more difficult especially if you get put on a pug team who really doesn’t know what they are doing xD

Ohhhh a cyber bully/verbal abuser post trying to justify why they have the right to verbally abuse people , NICE. This kinda reminds me of the show COPS while the dude gets arrested and hand cuffed hes talking the whole time trying to explain why he did what he did and how he was justified in committing the crime and shouldn’t be arrested for it, and should be allowed to commit crimes without any consequences grabs pop corn Carry on.

Whether people want to admit it or not, everyone knows matchmaking is only good for those with high mmr and premade teams, because they pretty much get free wins all day…why wouldn’t they like it(unless they did actually want a challenge or some type of competition, which most of todays kids don’t). The rest, well you can either enjoy getting farmed if you’re into that sort of thing or just quit and go do something else that makes more sense.
(which many have already) I really don’t think theirs an argument here anymore, everyone already knows whats going on it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

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