Guild Wars 2

Read the guide. He is annoying difficult, but he isn’t impossible. And yes, it does come down to pure luck sometimes. It took me about 45mins to an hour of cursing and slamming my mouse down in anger to finally win, but I was finally happy to win.

No real reason to post rants on the forums about this stuff…

It wouldn’t be a “Living” Story if the plot is given away months in advance….

You have to talk to a Order of Whispers guy to enter into the hidden area, the one that holds the statue of Kormir. After you kneel in front of it, it summons up the Seer of Truth, Kormir’s avatar. The avatar also refers to Kormir in the third person as well.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

He isn’t saying bring out your pitchforks if you want us to make both, he’s saying if enough people want the unmade fractal to be made then they might be convinced of its use.

It still sounds like a challenge to me! =)

Come my fellow angry mob minded brethren! Grab your pitchforks! Grab your torches! Tonight, we dine in BELLEVUE, WASHINGTON!

Rabble Rabble Rabble!

I like how everyone assumes that Evon’s fractal is going to be more epic, simply because Abaddon is going to be in it. We don’t know how much we are going to see of him in it, or of the other gods for that matter. For all we know, the whole fractal could be just us taking down his human Margonite followers.

Trying to get that fractal, just because of Abaddon, is basically buying the name and not the product, since we have no idea what is in either of them.

Basically, what the title says.

I’m just hoping for anything but tradable. If they are allowed to be put up on the TP, any super rich player can swing the election any way they would like. As much as it would fit into the shady politics of a pirate society, I would rather not the whole election get decided by player “X”, by him/her spending a thousand gold or more on votes at the last minute.

This forum really needs a sticky thread for this kinda question. Where a moderator, or a good lore expert, gives a good summery on the event of a living story after it’s over. If they are going to add stuff every two week, from now on, people will get lost story wise if the miss a month or two. Let’s see if I can give it a go…

Here’s what you missed on GW2!

After the attacks on the Captain’s Council of Lion’s Arch, by the Aetherblades sky pirates during the Dragon Bash Festival, it was left with a vacant seat with the death of Captain Theo Ashford.

Meanwhile, the Zephyrites, a group of zen-like wondering nomads, land their flying ship, the Zephyr Sanctum, in the Labyrinthine Cliffs. The Labyrinthine Cliffs is also hosting the Bazaar of the Four Winds, a large gathering of merchants from all across Tyria. These nomadic people learned to harness the power of the sun, wind, and lightning to power their flying ship and to live peacefully above the clouds.

Captain Magnus the Bloody-Handed, a member of the Captain’s Council and leader of the Lionguard, saw an opportunity with the Zephyr Sanctum’s arrival. If someone what able to make a trade agreement between Lion’s Arch and the Zephyrites, the Captain’s Council would be especially appreciative to that person if they decide to run for a seat on the council.

He quickly calls upon the newly made Captain Ellen Kiel, high ranking Lionguard member and captain of a “liberated” Aetherblade airship, to go to the Bazaar of the Four Winds and try to broker a deal between the two organizations.

Unknowingly, Captain Evon Gnashblade, co-founder and leader of the Black Lion Trading Company, was listening in on their conversation, and he very much wants to broker that deal himself…

Saitam.9340:

Perhaps Kasmeer is a liar to her core—she acts innocent but she is apparently well-trained in combat, investigation, and social customs. She clearly has plenty of history that so far is left unexplained. She doesn’t open up about it. In one of her dialogues, she says,
“I miss the man who used to hold my hand at the carnival, yes. But, let’s not talk about that.”
—Implying that her father was originally a good man when she was young, but turned bad as she grew older. She also said that he died in the last year. Perhaps Evon was involved, and through some turn of events she ended up in his employ. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Kasmeer could find or use some kind of magic to change her voice and approach Marjory as Mr. E.

I think you might have misread the dialogue. She never said her father was dead.

This festival reminds me of when I was little, and my father and I used to go to the carnival in Divinity’s Reach.

Does your father still live in Divinity’s Reach?
No. He’s…He’s gone. My mother died when I was young, and my father…He was taken earlier this year.

You must miss him.
I miss the man who used to hold my hand at the carnival, yes. But, let’s not talk about that. It’s too nice a day!

You work for Marjory Delaqua, don’t you?
I work with her, yes. I joined Delaqua Investigations a few months ago. I needed some excitement to break up the boredom, you see?

Even after outright stating that her mother was dead, she only says, very vaguely, that her father is “gone” and more importantly “taken earlier this year”.

While I wouldn’t doubt that Kasmeer is involved in a dark plot of some sort, just not Lion’s Arch’s, or her being involved willingly. The “he’s gone” and “taken earlier this year” screams hostage situation to me. Plus, her joining Marjory in her investigations into the underbelly of DR, shortly after her father was winds up gone, is suspect as well.

They still have a general idea of where they want to go with them, both play style and lore wise. They might not be big boss fights, but they are still probably going to be about equal on content for both aspects though. It wouldn’t be a fair choice between Evon and Kiel otherwise.

Side with Evon: You get to witness a key moment in history. The monumental battle between the human gods, where they strike down the traitor Abaddon, and they sent him to the Realm of Torment with his Margonite worshippers.

Side with Kiel: You get to witness one of the largest Inquest whoopsie daisies, EVER!

ArenaNet is already putting their finger on the scale just by mentioning Abaddon…

Unless Abaddon goes on into an evil overlord style rant, where he describes his motives in detail and reveals different secrets for each god, we won’t be getting much lore from that fractal either. We will just be able to be able to fight Abaddon, and hopefully he has a body this time.

If it did turn out that Abaddon’s fractal is a big boss fight (both fighting style and possibly lore… maybe), that means that the Reactor fractal with be something along that lines as well, and the chaos rifts will probably be pulling something equally large from the Mists. The only difference is that we know what we are getting from Abaddon’s. We’re getting him.

The Reactor is the mystery box….

Evans.6347:

Why would you say it’s the future? The reactor has already blown up, so it’s clearly the past, even if it’s the recent past.

I do agree that selling tokens via the channel of one of the candidates is rather shady

Pirate societies live for “shady”.

Evans.6347:

Frankly I think Kiel is going to win. For anyone not interested in lore or not have played GW1, her reduced waypoint cost is far more appealing that a themed fractal which they might not even like doing. I’m for Evon though

I depends on if the Support Tokens are going to be soulbound or not. If they aren’t, that means people are going to sell them on the trading post, and whoever is in control of the trading post can spend thousands of gold to basically decide the winner. Or at least, they can heavily tip the scale in favor of someone.

If we are going to be playing the gods’ parts, I wonder if they are going to replace our skills. I’m sure most players, including myself, always get a bit twitchy when that happens. I usually get bad flashbacks to Oculus from WoW.

Though, If we get insanely overpowered skills, like in that Priory personal story mission, it couldn’t be too bad. It was fun cutting through hordes of Risen as an Avatar of Balthazar, human god of mass murder.

As much as I would like to see it, I don’t see what we will be able to do in the Abaddon fractual. It is a battle of gods after all, and we are but lowly mortals. The most we could probably do is fight some Margonites or Forgotten, depending on which side we’re on. We will probably only see the gods is at the end, with gigantic Abaddon falling into The Mouth of Torment.

I’m slightly more fascinated with the reactor though. They wouldn’t have offered it up as a possibility if something interesting, that we don’t know about, happened there, since we basically know everything about what happened there already.

Plus, if the teleporting chaos rifts got into the Mists, who knows what might pop up? Ancient creatures? Future creatures? Demons? Razah(lol)? Alternate dimension steampunk overlords? A Mursaat? A Seer? Something that caused the Inquest’s attention to be overly drawn to the Elder Dragons in the first place?

The possibilities make me want to have a Seven moment. All I want to do is shout, “What’s in the box!”.

No one talks about him, because he was taking performance enhancing magics during his fight against Jormag.

He’s the Lance Armstrong of Tyria…

I would be inclined to believe the “global reset button” theory, if it weren’t for the fact that the Elder Dragons are intelligent, they seem to be in no way working together, and they seem to also have their own motives/ideas of what they want to do with the world.

Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t more Lovecraftian in nature, and they are only considered a “natural phenomena”, simply because they have been around for all of known history.

There are also different degrees, or dare I maybe say “Aspects”, of necromatic(?) resurrections. We, the players, have the basic meat puppets. We don’t touch the being’s soul at all. We just raise the body, shape it to a form we prefer, and then we bind it too our will.

We then get to the more advanced styles, like the ones seen by liches: the Vizier and Palawa. They can raise a being’s soul and then bind it a their corpse. The subject has varying degree of free will, but the caster still a dominion of the person.

Then we have stuff Zhaitan can pull off. Complete domination, rewriting or corruption of personality, siphoning of knowledge, and all sorts of craziness.

Depending on what they are going to do to the Ritualist class, there might be more. I only say that, because they seem to be blending them and the necromancer a bit. Spell-wise at least.

Crossplay.2067:

One thing that bugs the hell out of me is Treaherne is a necromancer but I haven’t seen him use any necromancer skills.

He does at least once in the personal story. During ‘Forging of the Pact’, he summons up multiple flesh golems (3 or 4, if I remember right) after you are trapped in a corner by Risen.

Another explanation, is that a group of Zephyrites left the original Sanctum to investigate Glint’s death. They weren’t use to the Crystal Desert’s heat or aridness, since they have been living in the clouds, and that’s why they were seemingly near death throughout the trek. Once they collected her crystal corpse, they were going to use it, and its power, to make a new sanctum.

When I read it, that’s what I got out of it anyway. That’s only my personal opinion though. As FlamingFoxx pointed out, the scribe’s note put a huge disclaimer on these story. “Warning!: This story has not been verified, so this story may or may not be true or accurate.”

The part I found more interesting was the, “Dragons consume magic, but they do not destroy it. They hold it within themselves like a sponge holds water. I only hope we’re faster than the scavengers and power-mongers who would use her body to advance their own evil or selfish plots.” part.

We have countless dragon champions and an Elder Dragon dead. Do we know where all their huge magically latent corpses are at? Now that we know their body parts can be used for all sorts of different type of magics, even after their death?

Even if Zhaitan mysteriously winds up not dead, he’s/its entire power base is gone. The Risen are getting mowed down by the Pact, the 5 (claimable) God temples have been claimed, most (if not all) the Mouths are dead, same goes from the Eyes, and Orr itself has been cleansed of Zhaitan’s corruption.

If it did survive, he can’t be much of a threat now. He’s a lone (undead dragon abomination) duck.

So, the Zephyrites are of Canthan and Elonian decent…

…yet we still can’t ask them what is going on on either of those continents?

/sigh

Though it would be very minimal, I can see the Emperor allowing legal trade for himself and some high ranking nobles. The things that we all know the rich and powerful can’t go without: spices, foreign fabrics, jewelry, magical items (in a fantasy setting), and books. I don’t see the Emperor allowing foreigners into the city though, much less being allowed to explore it. They would most likely be forced to stay in the harbor, and only the harbor.

Since Cantha closed it borders, I’m sure huge smuggling rings have popped up and grew like weeds. If Cobiah was smuggling in some goods to some criminal syndicate, in one of the darker and seedier parts of Kaineng, I can see them allowing him to explore a tiny bit, as long as he left in a timely period. They may tolerate him a bit more, but he is still a foreigner. Him getting noticed would draw the guards/MoP/Emperor’s attention onto them.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

^— I think the issue with that is there is nothing to suggest the Mursaat couldn’t have saved the other races and phased them out of Tyria as well. If it was a choice between dying with the other races or saving their entire people and it was only their people they could save then obviously the choice wouldn’t really be ‘evil’. But if they had the option to save all the races and simply chose not to – that’s pretty evil >.>

It might have been possible for them to phase the other races, given the magical might them and the Seers seemed to have held back then, but I would imagine it was a time and resources problem.

It would be like moving the entire population of the US to Europe or somewhere else overseas. Given normal circumstances, that would be entirely possible. It would just take a very very long time, since you would have to convince/force everyone, not to mention it would take billions upon billions of dollars and resources. Now imagine trying to do that quickly during a war of survival, and your opponents are intelligent nuclear bombs trying to kill you and everyone you love.

The Mursaat probably made a judgment call. Instead of taking the totally unknown chances of survival from trying to save every race, or allying with them again the Elder Dragons; they would rather have a near 100% chance of survival by cutting ties and going on their own.

Shakki.3219:

Lambent.6375:

Yeah, I wonder if it will be something like,

“Must have xxxx achievement points, and weapon type master completed in order to obtain insert whatever zenith weapons.

(that would be a pain for shields, and other side weapons though)

I would welcome that

I would as well.

There is also a male couple at the beginning of the Green Knight storyline isn’t there?

I’m not too sure about anymore couples, other than the ones already pointed out, though I’m sure there are more. They like to hide all sorts of little things like that in the random npc dialogue.

The removal of the daily and monthly achievement points is only a quick fix. People might say it solves the problems now, but it doesn’t deal with the ramifications for the future. That’s AP stagnation.

You (the general “you”) are saying already that the dailies contribute a huge portion of people’s AP total. If they really do put a year or two cap on it, the average player will lose the main source, and probably one of their only sources, of their AP in a couple of years. This is ok with the hardcore achievement completionists, but not everyone has the time like them to put into the game.

What’s going to happen to the people that can only log in an hour or so a day? A lot of my guild mates, the ones with tough work schedules, have to do this. They log in, chat up with the guild to see what’s going on, do the daily, some WvW, or some Pvp, then they have to log off to get to bed.

When ArenaNet adds more AP rewards, because you know they will (with higher and higher costs), where are they going to get the AP from? JPs they already finished? Dungeons they have no time to run? Grinding different mobs Korean grinder style? Living Stories achievements they can’t finish because they are in the middle of work?

It won’t punish people now, but any type of cap on the daily, will punish people in the future. The total removal of the daily/monthly will punish people now. The people that don’t have time to grind achievements points will be cut down to almost nothing. The high enders may say that they will be just as affected, but they will still have much higher AP then the other players proportional. Which is what most really only care about.

brunobyof.3541:

After all, in the real life, you don’t earn nothing special for doing the same thing everyday.

No, you earn a paycheck. You then save up money, from said paycheck, to buy “something special”.

They’re getting caught up on all their favorite soap operas.

Primordus is devouring the old Asuran cities.
Jormag is corrupting and expanding its forces.
Kralky is scared and recovering in the Crystal Desert.
Bubbles is swimming around and probably trying to find a Bloodstone.
Mordy is awaking up.

As for why we don’t see more, they probably view time differently then us. A year to them probably passes in a blink of an eye.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Xenlai.8694:

I think you are just afraid that people will catch up to you.

nope. i think it is the other way round.
people with less achievement points are envious jealous of those with more achievement points.

I’m sorry to say I laughed at this. The only people that care about the leadership boards are the ones trying to climb them. I would even say that a good 80-90%+ of players don’t care where they stand in them. Much less, who’s number one. Lol

So basically, this is the same old “Casual Player Vs. Hardcore Player” argument?

Hardcore players don’t want the “logging in for the daily” casual players to get a large amount of easy achievement points, not to mention the skins. The cap on the dailies, under the guise of letting the new players catch up, will only cause a clear divide between the types of players over time. The people who can’t spend hours at a time doing: dungeons, all the living story content, exploring, and pvp on the game will slowly stagnate achievement point wise. On the other hand, the hardcore completionists will feel no effect really, since they do all that stuff anyway.

Casual players just think everyone has a right to the new content and skins. Though, the times when a player does get the new content will differ between the types of players. The hardcore players will get them first, since they already have a large number of achievement points, and the casual players will get them when they work up to them over time.

Old arguments never die I guess…

So, the Tengu have an airship? This Zephyr Sanctum? I’m guessing at least by the name. I thought those were relatively new inventions by the Pact…

Even if they are totally different make and model, still kinda weird if the Tengu had an airship first.

But “woot!” for achievement points finally getting a use. I’m hoping that the different skins are unlimited like the HoM ones.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

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That’s not as far-fetched as you might think. As of 1256, a mere seventy years before GW2 present day, Livia was still alive and well. She was also still a member of the Shining Blade guarding the royal family. What the motive be? What reason would she have to aid parties hostile to humanity’s allies?

Well…

If there is a Bloodstone in the Unending Ocean, that could explain what has been keeping Bubbles attention this whole time. It isn’t going to care what’s going on on land, when one of the largest sources of magic in Tyria is in its domain, and in reach as well.

Maybe they will turn the Shatterer projection into something like the minion holograms? If they get their hands on the projector, then hack it with all the stolen hologram crystals; they basically get a weapon that’s a portable dragon champion.

All they need to do is make a couple of more of those, load them onto one of their airships, and they are a force to be reckoned with in Tyria.

Redesign? Maybe.

Complete redesign? Not really…

Them floating isn’t at all important to their race’s lore. The only djinn we see with two sets of arms are the Sapphire and Key of Ahdashim-like djinn. If they mysteriously lost them, it wouldn’t hurt the concept at all. The only big charge to their design would be the addition of solid legs. And even then, the Ruby and Diamond djinn already have legs. Them becoming solid wouldn’t change much.

Plus, it isn’t like a playable race hasn’t gone through a redesign before in gw. The Sylvari sure have, and if they were connected to the Sidhe from Gw:U; they even underwent a complete redesign…

To be fair, the Sylvari didn’t start with territories, villages, outposts, or an economy either. With only 25 years of “race building”, they were able become a playable race.

If the Djinn really wanted too, they are intelligent enough, and have the magical strength, to be able to do the same. The only thing they need is a redesign. Maybe something like their old concept art. Take away the floating, the extra set of arms, and put on some solid legs, and you have a possible playable race, character design wise.

Gregorius.1024:

I can dig this. The Djinn that guard treasures might seek a way to reproduce. They shapeshift into human and copulate with humans to make hybrids. Or the Vabbian princes made a pact with the Djinn. In many instances, the Djinn come to the aid of the Elonians so I can see a hybrid race being something of a possibility

The developers have already said there will be no interbreeding between two different races. Even if they could, Djinn are still elementals. They may be able to make themselves look like humans, but they will never actually be humans biologically. In the end of the day, their insides will still be made of either fire, earth, water, or wind.

Though depending on what actions of Joko in Elona, and the Elder Dragons at large, there might be an increase in the djinn population. They are suppose to be “protectors of the natural world” according to legend. If there was a big enough shift in the natural balance of things, the djinn might want to increase their numbers, or maybe awaken dormant ones, to help combat the threat.

I wish we had Zommoros opinion on whether the Elder Dragons are “natural” though…

I was going to jokingly suggest Jormag and its minions turns them into broodmothers, Dragon Age-style, but then I imagined that…

…and got very nauseous.

I’m not really sure about that connection. Skulls aren’t really that unique when it comes to pirate flags/banners…

The red backdrop could possible come from their ties with the Inquest, or they might just like that color.

Sithaco.4673:

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They are actively fighting off Destroyer’s attempt to break out into the surface far more north then where we can currently explore. I think this would create for an excellent playable race, they have the racial enemy, a great story line, and don’t tell me there isn’t some sort of magic that can turn them back from stone.

Sadly, the developers have already said that the dwarves aren’t going to be a playable race, because they are trying to stay away from typical fantasy races. It’s the same reason we have the Sylvari instead of elves.

We will still probably see them as a future npc race though. Whenever we get around to going into the Depths of Tyria.

Lion’s Arch’s asura gates are used for goods, though we don’t really see it in game, but to transport goods through the gates it costs a fee.

A regular everyday person may use the gates for personal travel for free. A merchant on the other hand, or possibly anyone looking to move a large amount of items, have to pay a fee to the owner of the gate or the gate operator. Since travel through the gate is close to instantaneous, and you can bypass all dangers that might be on the road, the fee for the transport of goods is probably very LARGE. Something that the poorer merchants probably can’t afford, hence them needing to use the Lionguard controlled roads.

If what Captain Shud, the owner of most of the asura gates in LA, says is true. She is the richest captain on the council and possibly all of LA.

Obsidian.1328:

Now, if you really think that it’s perfectly legit for a current author to overwrite a past author simply because they have the legal right to do so, we have a serious problem. Because I can’t argue logically with that kind of willful disregard for honesty, respect, and plain common sense.

Why do you keep making the argument then?

You seem to like to bring up this subject on these forums. Which leads to whatever poor thread that is hosting it get completely thrown off subject, because it leads to arguments between you and other forumites. That same argument then gets repeated, each and every time you bring up this subject.

What I meant for Lazarus being in the Living Story, is that he would be there continually. Like our supposed Personal Nemesis is suppose to be. Him killing us at the end of a LS dungeon would only be a first encounter. Just to show us that he’s there pulling strings, if you will.

If ANet really wanted to, they could build up Lazarus’ storyline in the LS, just to show us kind of what he is capable of. After a certain amount of time (so we can learn his history and motives), they can push his character into the personal storyline in a future expansion.

He would go from a shadowy secondary antagonist in the temporary LS, to a permanent outright villain in the Personal Story…

I might be in the minority, but I won’t mind seeing that.

I kind of want Lazarus to turn up at the end of a Living Story dungeon. Something like, the final boss shouting out for help from his/her master, but nothing happens. After you loot the chest, and the LS character/hero wonders off to investigate the area, you make your way to the exit, only for Lazarus to suddenly appear.

He doesn’t say anything. He’s just innocently floating right in front the path, blocking your way to the exit. Once the players get into range, he just calmly lifts his hand, then proceeds to instantly kill them with Spectral Agony.

Once everyone is dead, it fades to a black screen. The scene fades back into a cut scene of the LS hero reviving you.

It would be a fun way of introducing the players, who didn’t play gw1, to the Mursaat. With horrible horrible death.

If the Mursaat do have advanced knowledge when it comes to the Mists, is it possibly there could be a colony of them somewhere in the Mists or another world connected to it?

After running from the Elder Dragons during their last rise, I can see a bunch not wanting to return to Tyria because of them. Not to mention, that whole prophecy predicting their doom and all…

Lazarus will probably make an appearance some point in the future, since he would make an excellent villain/antagonist. The Mursaat race, either groups or individuals? Not very likely.

Most, if not all, of their fighting forces seemed to have died in gw1. If there race had anymore survivors of the titans, other than Lazarus himself, they won’t stick their head out anytime soon, or they would risk loosing it. There is probably a special sect of the Shining Blades that looks out for possibly Mursaat activity, since they know that Lazarus is out there… somewhere.

As for the Agony in Fractuals, and the resistance armor, the Mists very broad and fluid lore most likely comes into play. The Mists copy stuff, and it’s both very good and very bad at copying stuff. It can copy events of the past, present, and future of Tyria, and it can even copy alternate events. The “what-ifs” and “what could have beens” of Tyrian history.

If the Mursaat’s Spectral Agony ability stood out enough, the Mists could copy that ability when it creates new creatures. Which it does a lot. The same could be said for the Ascended armor.

J Night.3468:

i don’t know if anyone knows, but anet did mention they are already considering an expansion. their main concern is to figure out when it should be released though, before putting any work into it.

Unless that is relatively new news, as of May 14th, there are no current plans for an expansion. There will be one at some point, but as of right now; they are fully committed to expanding gw2 through Living Stories.

Rytlock has Sohothin. (No one has any idea where/how he got it.)

Eir reclaimed Magdaer after AC story. She sent it to an unknown skilled blacksmith to get reforged.

I would bet that Joko is going to be an ally of convenience, or outright necessity, whenever we get to Elona. Depends on what Kralky is up to. So basically, what he was in gw1.

That won’t stop the Order from sabotaging him left and right though.

From what I read on their dialogue, “Jory” is always mentioned by name, and never by a pronoun.

Lord Faren: I never “fled to Southsun Cove.” I…came to secure my reservations for the upcoming festival.
Lord Faren: But what about you? What brings you to this fair island?
Lady Kasmeer Meade: Business and pleasure. I’m fact-finding for Jory, and I heard this was a one-of-a-kind resort.
Lord Faren: It is that. One with a reputation for dangerous fun…well, danger, anyway. Lord Faren: Truth be told, I was rather counting on that to discourage any other visitors from DR.
Lady Kasmeer Meade: Don’t worry, I won’t tell anyone you’re here. If I did, I wouldn’t have you all to myself.

Lord Faren: So you and Jory don’t do bodyguard work. Too bad. My body could definitely use some guarding.
Lord Faren: I was trained in single combat, of course, but I’m currently facing a much less fortuitous ratio.
Lady Kasmeer Meade: Right, you were Swordmaster Bongo’s prize student. Your parents paid extra for the title.
Lord Faren: Well I don’t like to brag…wait, what?
Lady Kasmeer Meade: Sorry, I meant “training.” They paid extra for the special training that made you so formidable.

I’m not sure if they added anyway dialogue for them in the latest patch. Those are the only two I could find where they mention Jory.