did not count, but played about i think 60 games and had about 53 losses and 7 wins. first evening went ok, but until yesterday morning just losses. no more pip. i was also mid diamant last season and ppl i know who are more worst than me, are mid saphir today, because of a winning series. it is all about the mmr. if you are get in a bad one, you can not really get out there anymore alone. you need really really good players who pull you out there. i am always on every match person with highest points. i know, does not say much, BUT… how will you win, when you have 130 and worst player of your team 10? you can not fight 5 enemys alone. you have no chance until you are in that worst mmr because of some matches in a row (i played with wvw friends and we just lost) bu we are friends, so i did not care that moment.
for me the new system does not show the better players by having a winning series. they are just very very lucky to directly started well and get now a good matchmaking. started maybe with a team that evening or whatever. this system is the worst matchmaking ever seen.
even if the mmr comes from last season…. yes, until ruby it was more harder solo-q. so i do understand where it comes from.
one game today to explain… i am scrapper, 4 of my players mid fighting against 4 enemys. all the time dead and downstead. instead of taking care of the other points. i ran mid, where calling targets (what 90% of ppl not doing. why???) burst my damage as good as i can and stomp all of them. got the feeling i was everywhere same time. ok, all enemys dead, 2 of my players still on the point. i left to decap other point. before i arrives there, i saw on minimap one enemy brought 2 of that ppl downstead. so tell me…. what can i do with a team like that? what????
Don’t judge yourself and others based on personal score. You said it is meaningless but you still regard 10pts means bad performance.
I remember there is an ESL game in which Zan from 55 rnk dragon got only 5 or 10 points but the team still won.
So I’ve finally looked into this build and its basically a more refined version of the condi build that people were trying in the HoT beta.
Considering in the HoT beta shield block lasted longer, alacrity wasn’t nerfed and the other elites specs weren’t as strong I don’t know why everybody is suddenly deciding this is amazing now when it wasn’t that great then.
Because many other mesmer builds took huge hit from alacrity nerf and power creep on some other classes.
So comparatively, this one performs the best among our builds.
Well, at least we are definitely better than guardian and warrior in this meta. Probably even on par with ranger and thief. This is already much better than my expectation.
1v1, you should be able to kill mallyx revenants. Let alone +1.
Glint Shiro is quite a bit tougher, but still manageable.
Scrapper is without a doubt better than mesmer.
And necro… necro is necro.
Mesmer is able tokill every one of this classes but it will notbe a burst. Killing all of them takes ages, and most of the time there will come rainforcement before U put them down.
The problem is that if we were able to stand a better chance against meta builds, we would be OP again because of portal.
So when I am solo queuing, I had a 15W – 1L record.
But when I queue with a friend who is not very good(hard to say no to friend), I only had a 4W – 3L.
Or is it the condie spam way too strong in this game?
Historially, power shatter mesmer has been running around with no condie cleanse for the longest time.
That aside, I would suggest decrease phantasmal enchanter(and all phantasm skill) cast time to 3/4 sec. Bring back mantra background recharge but increase their cool downs to compensate.
Yeah, it is decent but still far from any of the meta choices.
The best it can achieve is to compete for a spot with druid, daredevil, dragonhunter for the last spot on a team when the 5 different class rule gets enforced in ESL.
The players that purchased these will get refunds, correct? I purchased Vigilant yesterday. >.>
Was just going to post about this.. I had crusaders and didn’t get the gold mailed back to me.. Last time they removed amulets I got the gold mailed back..
I remember crusader doesn’t require purchase to use/
I think after you get a losing streak longer than 5. It is a good time to stop and reconsider your gameplay. The chance is that if you keep playing, you will keep losing because you didn’t perform well and you are also getting more tired. You can’t expect to magically get a few good players to carry a win for you.
Think about how you lost the games, what went wrong. Current meta tends to generate snowball effect much more easily since ppl die if they are not careful.
Good gameplay from 1 person cannot make up for moronic team mates. I and a guildie both started the season at the same time soloqing so we were at the same level for matchmaking, he got 11 straight wins I got a raft of moronic teammates in every match who couldn’t even manage the basics of the game mode. I dunno what it is but anet are going to have a lot of disheartened players who may quit within a week.
Then again, it is a good time to stop. Bad teammates make you mad. As you get angrier, you will also perform worse. You probably don’t notice it but it will gets into your mind.
I think after you get a losing streak longer than 5. It is a good time to stop and reconsider your gameplay. The chance is that if you keep playing, you will keep losing because you didn’t perform well and you are also getting more tired. You can’t expect to magically get a few good players to carry a win for you.
Think about how you lost the games, what went wrong. Current meta tends to generate snowball effect much more easily since ppl die if they are not careful.
They will have a bit of influence since some of them got the chance to talk to the devs. But overall, I just don’t see how the balance being heavily influenced by them.
So in this new season you have new rule:
winning always get one pip, losing always loses one pip
Then here is the question, shouldn’t the matchup system try to create a as even as possible matchup?
Uneven matchup is less a problem in season 1, because you tend to gain more/lose less pip in a game where odds is stacked against you. But in season 2, it is highly unfair for the inferior team
I attached one example here.
Yes, I did win that game. But obviously red team has all the tier2 players, has more premade parties. Blue team is clearly the weaker side here.
Why doesn’t matchup system distribute more evenly the players into these two teams?
A 1.75 second channeling skill. After activation, you gets locked into a triple leap animation.
W/O evade, this is like the easiest to interrupt skill in the world.
Rev needs to get shiro and herald defensive traits tuned down.
I play too little necro to say what they should do with reaper but I always found cleansing five conditions and applying five conditions on a target on that cooldown was ridiculous. By now condition damage is so common I don’t get how necro gets away with dealing 200% better with it that other classes. In comparison a warrior shout willl cleanse a single condition and that’s it.
Rocket charge actually needs evade. It also has interruptable frames even now.
The problem is that they moved a GM hammer trait to adept so now scrapper can get a lot of stability which makes it extremely hard to cc them.
Necro damage pressure is simply too high. For most spec that has limited condie cleanse, one staff 5 then a staff 3 you are pretty much dead
I am thinking about getting into WvW with ele and want to play frontline.
Obviously the idea of going shout/aura share/soldier rune is quite nice.
But I am also interested in the possibility of going cleansing water/durability rune. Would that also work out? Because in addition to zerging, I also want to roam with 1-2 friends. It would be great if I can accomplish both with one set of runes.
So I guess the “sky is falling” crowd are eating crow?
There’s no crow to eat because the Mesmer proved its just not viable. Making an appearance doesnt mean it’s effective.
The discrepancy in team skill stopped the mesmer not the mesmer class.
You’ve got a hilarious double standard here. You’re saying that the mesmer’s poor performance can’t possibly indicate that mesmer is poor because the team was bad, then you turn around and say that the mesmer is clearly viable because it showed up in the tournament, despite having just claimed that you can’t tell anything about the mesmer due to the bad team. You can’t have it both ways, either it means something or it doesn’t.
Our class is better off than those 3, and you literally can’t deny it. We are not trash tier. We may be at an under powered level, but we are going to have to see how our utility pans out in this new meta.
Based on what? The only team that took a mesmer got dismantled. Yes, I know, the team played badly, you’ve already mentioned it…but it’s nothing short of lunacy to use the fact that a team brought a mesmer as mesmer being viable when that team got massacred.
Until you can give an argument more intelligent than ‘but a team that got destroyed brought a mesmer so mesmer is viable’, you’ve got absolutely nothing to say.
It didn’t matter what classes Rank 55 ran against PZ….they were that much better than them. So coming to a conclusion on how well mesmer works in this meta can’t be done.
What conclusion can be made is a pro team decided to run mesmer b/c they saw something in our class. I can guarantee you that they’ve faced Rev, Rev, Necro, Ele, Engi in their scrims with the abjured (who just happened to run that comp) before the finals.
Thank You
Yeah. They saw portal. I’m not sure why you keep denying that portal is the singular reason they ran it, with moa as an honorable mention.
I’m not denying anything simply stating we don’t know because they haven’t said. You’re assuming I’m going byou facts.
Please come with facts not emotions
Everyone in this thread has been shoving facts and reason in your face, you’re just denying everything.
No they haven’t.
Well you just denied everything then.
Read the post above you and then you’ll understand.
But your own argument only has one thing in it: One ESL team used this class so it must be universally useful and there must be a reason that we don’t see.
Obviously ppl will question your reasoning if that is the only thing you keep mentioning.
Such a nice video guide. It would be even more useful if Anet didn’t hand Revs and engis stability like candies.
Still remember the awesome feeling when being able to interrupt ele burning speed. Interrupting those evading skills really caught your opponent off guard and benefit a lot from it.
1. Change well of precog back to its old form, giving evade, maybe increasing CD to 50 sec
2. Remove the aftercast of GS auto attack, like they did to ele lightening whip ages ago.
3. Add “Increase slow application time by 33%” to the GM trait slow time
4. Normalize all phantasm summoning time to 3/4 sec.
Actually, I want to suggest swap Furious interruption and confounding suggestions. But given how poor the power shatter mesmer is currently, I wouldn’t want it to happen.
DH’s biggest strength is doing damage in teamfight and auramancer directly counters DH by providing reflection and AOE stunbreak. Now you also have scrapper bringing in reflective field. When two of the meta choices directly counter you, there is really not that much hope for it to come into play
easy solution
BUFF jalis and ventari for more variety !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O_O nowwwwwwwwww
Well if we put it this way;
Hammer revs = 0
Jalis revs = 0
Ventari revs = 0
Non herald (core) revs = 0
Sword offhand = 0 (which i dont understand as shield is crap compared to sword oh atm)
Mallyx = idk, still carried by herald, crap on it own.
Ofc trying to ask for a buff to these will get you killed lmao
Well, at least Revs got a pretty good variety right now.
You see 3/5 legends being used. You see 5/6 trait lines being used. You see only two weapons not being used.
Now compared to other classes. How many of their utility skills are not used? How many of them got locked into 3 mandatory trait lines. How many weapon sets are considered useless?
Except Mallyx needs rework bc hes a mess. What traitlines you see used are devastation/corruption (based on build), retribution as mandatory and herald as mandatory as well. Everything else doesnt matter.
Staff is terrible and mostly used for block and surge, then you have sword/shield (shield not really a viable choice nowdays) or mace/axe for condi. Then we have hammer which wasnt competitive and yet got nerfed thx to wvw putting it below trash level.
Idk but i dont really call it variety by being locked into shiro/glint 4ever and sword which is a mess.
Well, ESL final says other wise.
You have devastation/invocation/herald on toker as well.
easy solution
BUFF jalis and ventari for more variety !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O_O nowwwwwwwwww
Well if we put it this way;
Hammer revs = 0
Jalis revs = 0
Ventari revs = 0
Non herald (core) revs = 0
Sword offhand = 0 (which i dont understand as shield is crap compared to sword oh atm)
Mallyx = idk, still carried by herald, crap on it own.
Ofc trying to ask for a buff to these will get you killed lmao
Well, at least Revs got a pretty good variety right now.
You see 3/5 legends being used. You see 5/6 trait lines being used. You see only two weapons not being used.
Now compared to other classes. How many of their utility skills are not used? How many of them got locked into 3 mandatory trait lines. How many weapon sets are considered useless?
I was kind of hoping we would at least see a single guardian, but I guess that likely wont happen till scepter, hammer, sword & the 50% of traits that are crap get some love which is unlikely to ever happen.
Sad that there is still so much stacking going on.
LB DH is too easy to counter. Unless there is another good DH build not revolving around LB, they won’t have the chance to be on the competitive scene.
I mean, there is also druid, gunflame warrior and wildfire warrior have both seen some good use, and they are competitive in the right hands. Condi-mes is powerful, the only class that I haven’t seen used much is elementalist, but this seems to be a problem where the class is perceived as bad instead of actually being bad… AFAIK the only nerf they took was to condi invuln…
Also, Guardian hard counters DD, necro soft counters DH, engineer is a good all-rounder, druid out-sustains reaper in the right hands, etc. Balance is in a really good place IMO
Yeah, balance is good if we only consider 3 classes: scrapper/druid/reaper.
I think the god tier will only be reaper/scrapper/druid.
DH will be countered by an aurashare tempest in a team fight and die to the god tier easily. Daredevil is strong in good hands but still has its limitation.
If we have a team like this: reaper/scrapper/druid/herald/tempest. It will be pretty much super sustain all over again.
Trick isn’t to nerf everything. Diablo 3 after 3 years is moving into the top mmo slots. Why? They only nerf exploits, the rest is move the classes up to par. Their current endgame content is similar to fractals but the difficulty scales infinitely. Their classes are all within 4 levels of difficulty that they are able to complete after their last balance patch.
So let’s stop throwing around nerfs and throw solutions.
D3 is all pve mindless farming. Of course it is fine to powercreep endlessly in that game. Also I wouldn’t call that game an MMO. Everything is 1-4 player instance in that game. I can’t call 1-4 massive…
WvW and PvP in this game is completely different animal, you can’t reasonably compare these two with the same standard. Imagine if you put PvP in D3. The balance will be hilariously bad and won’t be even worth playing.
Last but not least, 4 levels of difficulty sounds small? Each level of difficulty represents 17% health difference in that game. 4 level difference translates to (1.17^4 – 1) = 87.3% of difference. Imagine we have that much of difference of dps in gw2…
You won’t have enough keys to get 30-40 per run if you only play DS.
You have to play other 3 maps to get currency to buy more keys. So the total time you spent to acquire your leadership rune is still pretty much the same.
We are kinda in the same situation as warrior in almost every single game mode.
PvE: Brought for buffs, dps not so great
PvP: Underwhelming but have a few gimmicks to play
WvW: In zerg, brought for 1-2 utility. Roaming, again a few gimmicks.
