Guild Wars 2

For any of you in SoS have interest to step into the WvW world, it is great time with new WvW map coming up soon.

Join us on sosgw2.com, there are plenty of friendly guilds and individuals can help you out.

I will almost always take a focus with me in open world.
Focus 4 can pull mobs together while focus 5 is an aoe damage phantasm. Focus 4 is also our only reliable access to swiftness.
As for trait, I usually go for 46040. I trait harmonious mantra and mender’s purity for survivability and trait focus for reduced cool down and reflection.

Take staff instead of sword and mantra of resolve instead of portal will make dueling against dd ele and cele engi much more manageable.

Staff applies constant damage pressure from auto attack and a decent phantasm while you kite away. Mantra of resolve helps you deal with the nasty burn/poison before you heal.

-high reflexes: Mesmer and thief. (contrary to the the other guy, I think ele, warr and engi do not require high reflex at all). But this really only matters a lot in PvP. In PvE, you don’t actually need good reflex for anything.

-have many skills: Ele and engi this time

-no micromanagement of pet: Only mesmer and ranger are kinda forced to use their clones/pet. Other classes can be played without pet.

-little or no boon/condition spam: Unfortunately both ele and engi who have a lot of skills are also more boon/condition use dependent. Especially ele, they reply on boons a lot.

-not support oriented: No class is pigeonholed into a support-only role. But group dungeon runs do require you to bring important support that your class can offer.

OreoWolf.9564:

This can been seen as an indirect ‘nerf’ to mesmer, but you guys are missing a pretty key point; boon strip bypasses all stacks of stability.

Other classes will be forced to waste 2-4 crowd control effects just to lock down that lich necro for a second or two. On the other hand, all it will take is a well placed null field or shatter to strip all stacks of stability off. If anything, this reinforces mesmer as a valuable asset for locking down these elites much faster. I mean look at AoE(Armour of Earth) on elementalist… 10 stacks of stability. They will be impossible to lock down without boonstrip (and who has more of it other than mesmer?).

tl;dr Boonstrip is going to be far more useful than other crowd control effects, as one single shatter can bypass every single stability stack. In my honest opinion, this nerfs other classes who lack boonstrip more than us ^^.

Well, it used to be that crowd control skills cannot do anything with stability. Now they can.
So boonstrip is overall less useful compared to before.

In terms of popularity
Speed dungeon run:
First tier:Elementalist, Guardian, Warrior
Second tier:Mesmer, Thief, Ranger, Engineer
Third tier: Necromancer

PvP:
First tier: Elementalist, Engineer
Second tier: Warrior, Thief
Third tier: Mesmer, Necromancer, Guardian, Ranger

WvW:
First tier: Guardian, Elementalist, Warrior, Necromancer
Second tier: Mesmer,Thief, Ranger, Engineer(Organized group usually prefer mesmer and thief)

Yeah masterful reflection is pretty good especially if you take Illusionary Invigoration.

So overall, the two things I don’t particularly like are Oasis Event and the new siege.
The oasis event, as I and some other people point out, can be detrimental to the side with smaller number. The new siege is simply way too strong imho. You will probably always need it for any open field fight.

Really really looking for mirror blade. Mirror blade in close range dishes out insane damge. That’s the only way you can get burst down that fast.

That oasis event can completely nullify any defense effort by the side with smaller number.

The map certainly looks fun.
But I am a little afraid that all those environmental factors may exaggerate the population imbalance problem.
Most of those powerful buffs will be claimed by the side with more people and make it even harder for the side with less number.

3 sustain class(dd ele, shout warrior, engi etc.) 1 thief, 1 dps class(necro, medi guard, mesmer etc).

Graybes.8251:

How big are the fights typically in T2? Is it pretty much all zerging/blobing like in T1? Or are things a bit smaller?

It used to be smaller. But after YB’s rise and recruitment war in the recent few months, things really start to shift in the direction of more zerging and blobing.

However, if you want small skilled group fights. T2 probably still has the best to offer.

The balance over all classes is pretty decent at this point.
In dungeons, most classes are welcome but elementalists do stand out a bit for their dps. As for high level fractals, people usually prefer guardians.
In PvP, elementalists and engineers are most seeked professions but other professions can definitely be played ffective as well especially in mid-level competition.
In WvW, warrior guardian elementalist and necromancers are still the core for any organized group play. But you really can play any profession to their strength, especially in small-scale fight.

Let’s see what they will do in tomorrow’s video chat.
I really think at this point, WvW needs more dev attention rather than just let it play out by players.

Zerker stats is the meta for speed group dungeon runs.
In all other places, you have various choices for all professions

Hexin.5603:

FA has super long NA primetime queues? That sucks … TC only queues reset. Thats about it. At the same time it must be good to always have a full map ;-)

This is what I saw from some website showing FA queue on Tuesday around 10pm EST

coglin.1867:

Exciton.8942:

Still, the coverage war is meaningless. The only competition between the T2 servers in terms of ppt game is that they each recruit more players. Most of these players are from T3 and below. This destroys lower tiers and is not making T2 any better.

No, “this” doesn’t destroy anything. The players chose to leave. It is a players choice to do so. Others decided WvW wasn’t for them. Some take breaks. The list goes on and on. The fact of the matter is that these are legitimate player choices. It is the communities doing. And if you were to limited or incapable of changing servers, their would be a massive outcry demanding it. Even games with only 3 realms have this issue. If you believe this is anything less then a problem of the players, by the players, you are wrong.

I know it’s human nature to crowd onto larger servers. However, the current coverage war only serve to speed up that process and ultimately creates a more undesirable WvW experience.

T2 players didn’t get any happier after this recent recruitment war. Three of the four servers still have to alternate to get the boring T3 week while FA players have to deal with super long NA prime queues. At the end of the day, you still have very unbalanced T2 and T3 matchups.

Condie ranger is 50/50 against dd ele on point. Really depends on who plays better.
LB power ranger has advantage over dd ele but you have to kite off point for sure.

Still, the coverage war is meaningless. The only competition between the T2 servers in terms of ppt game is that they each recruit more players. Most of these players are from T3 and below. This destroys lower tiers and is not making T2 any better.

If you want to be more useful in a large group fight, you probably want to roll warrior.
If you usually just pug, ranger is much easier to start with.

Ravenmoon.5318:

My god i swear some mesmer players are terribad. More balance to the fight vs thief? Seriously? Learn to freaking play. I don’t know how many times a mesmer has had me on the defensive (pretty much disengaging because death inbound).

As a thief, i still consider the mesmer one of the harder classes to fight against. So quit your whining, watch some LordHelseth vids and git gud.

No. You get completely wrong. Mesmers are fine in average level competition. It’s at the highest level that they start to lose their effectiveness. So actually the better you get, the more you will notice the difficulty of getting this class to work.

Current 24/7 long match is meaningless. Who really cares who wins the coverage war outside T1?
I suggest divide things up into 8-hour-long matches. The matchup determination would be like what the OP described, using time-zone dependent glicko.

The meta shoutbow warrior has incredible sustain in both 1v1 and team fight and is very easy to play.
The bunker guardian is currently out of the meta. The bunker guardian should not only survive well himself and but also provide a lot of defensive support for his teammate.

Outnumber should be a much more significant buff.
Everyone knows how hard it is to achieve anything when outmanned.

For any PvX player already on SoS, join us in some enjoyable WvW action!
Also don’t forget to check out the community website and get verified there.
http://www.sosgw2.com/

Hey, do come and join the SoS community website
http://www.sosgw2.com/

There are a lot of guilds recruiting and a lot of helpful people around.

I would surely recommend my current guild Prescribed[Rx], really helpful for players of any levels. Check it out.
http://prescribedrx.com/

Followed them as a pug recently. Definitely a nice group to join.

There is no such server I think. But you can look for a guild. Also anything below T2 will be better for small scale fights. T2 is also decent in off-hours but definitely not NA prime.

Please remember not everyone just plays for easy ppt. Some like to fight and some like to capture objectives. Nothing you can do to stop that.

papaiggy.1345:

Sviel.7493:

papaiggy.1345:

So let’s talk about the SoS guys who keep getting into the SBI Citadel area and setting up siege on the walls above North North. Exploit much? I mean seriously with a stupidly large lead you now have to cheat to drive the score up even more? Not impressed at all. No class, No honor, No sportsmanship. SoS can just go suck it.

What are you talking about here? I don’t know of anyone doing such a thing, but if it’s happening, you’ll have the full support of SoS in putting a stop to it. A screenshot would be ideal, but if you’ve got that you can likely go right to Anet.

Oh, and as to this Blank Jam thing, I actually feel kind of bad about it…but we have no choice but to be cruel in order to maintain our rating and avoid permanently falling into T3. If we went even with SBI and NSP, we’d lose an immense amount of points…we have to tick at like 450+ on average just to break even.

OMg just finished defending our keep in EB, 4 hours of y’all constantly attacking 50+ Omegas and we killed at least 35 of those. Plus you had us outnumbered 4 -1 I don’t know how you can even cut it as a higher tier server when we can spank you this bad. As to your needing to tick points I find it interesting that NSP has all it’s stuff and that you seem to be obsessed with just attacking SBI.

Have 20+ ppl hiding and sieging and tell me what else do you expect the other side do? SBI SEA only map hops and try to cap wherever there is no defence. At least we go right at you, and at the keep with the most defence.

What I did to improve:
watch videos from good PvP players
read supcutie’s guide and revisited it frequently
Put into practice

You can post recruit message in area with a large player population like lion’s arch, World boss, eternal battle ground(if WvW).

I just want to point out again that we are not only recruiting guilds but also all the individuals who seek a nice WvW community.

Many of our guilds are recruiting. You will almost surely find a good fit for you.

Really enjoyable gameplay. Ty for sharing.

I would suggest going for zerker armor with strength runes. Should work in both WvW and PvE.
In WvW, you might want to go a bit tankier since you want to play causual. So swap in some trinkets with vitality and toughness. Since you are also a PvEer, I assume you have no problem obtaining one more set of trinkets.

Looking for more organized OCX/SEA groups to join us.

I think for a new player, a balanced PvX guild should be ideal for you.
Check these two out
Prescribed
http://prescribedrx.com/

Grindhouse Gaming
http://www.ghgaming.net/

We are always known to have a large OCX playerbase here at Sea of Sorrows. Be sure to check us out
Community website:
http://www.sosgw2.com/

Recruitment thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/Sea-of-Sorrows-WvW-Recruitment/first

Also, there is a special LF section on forum you can use
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor

It can be hard to burst down a bunker guardian fast. But you should be able to win the matchup eventually with shatter spec. Try to find a good timing to push him off the point and decap.

DPS guardian does have an advantage over shatter mesmer. The best way would be kiting them with z-axis movement. They tend to be way more vulnerable after blowing up their utility skills. So personally I feel using a staff would help fight them a lot with the weapon’s great kiting potential.

bump for visibility

We are very happy to have a few guilds and also some individual players joining us during the last couple of weeks.
Would like to see more to join this awesome community.

One simpler thing they can do is to implement some reward system that encourages ppl to go to weaker servers.

Have some kinda of reward track that is similar to PvP reward track. Call it maybe server honor track. The lower the server is ranked, the faster the track is filled.

Also keep the track on a player history tab. They can transfer off but also transfer back and continue that track. Players can also get some loyalty titles when reaching milestones on their server honor track.

I do agree that power LB ranger is a bit over the top in a large open field. But that only exists in WvW.
In PvP environment ,there are plenty of ways to LOS, getting close and put pressure on LB ranger.

Dayra.7405:

yanoch.7051:

I would be curious to see how FA does VS a T1 server.

Last league was in Sept. At that time FA performed vs JQ or TC as T3 now did vs them or SoS
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39/213
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/36/211
…

They should be close or slight stronger compared to SoS in the Sept tournament. In addition, they are running with more blobs now thanks to the shift towards that direction in T2 these days.

I would say the gap between T1 and T2 is much closer atm compared to T2 and T3.

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Turrets hit for 3-4k per attack! Crazy! Maybe you have some kind of super secret amaze turrets that we don’t have! In that case nerf Kibbles! For everyone else, turrets don’t hit hard at all! You don’t need 2 people to beat a turret Engineer! You don’t even need staff Eles! Vee Wee beats turret Engineers all the time! Vee Wee plays condi Engi!

Again my frands! Just because turret Engineers can, for some reason, win solo queues doesn’t mean it should be nerfed! Balance isn’t done based on the whims of low ranked players! Turret builds aren’t good! They have a buttload of weaknesses and have zero mobility! Bad! Very bad! A nerf to this useless build will just hurt real Engineers and their only viable elite!

Here’s some free advice, courtesy of Vee Wee! Don’t get hit by an overcharged Rocket Turret! Don’t get hit by an overcharged Thumper Turret! The Rocket Turret is pretty fragile and is basically a Turret Engi’s only source of damage! Kill it! You can circle a Rocket Turret and it will never hit you!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

I can’t agree with this.

Yes, turret build is not effective in highest level sPvP. But does that mean the build needs to be buffed according to your logic that everything should be balanced at highest level?

I think the answer is No. Builds should really be balanced around the effort it takes to play. For example, PU mesmer is easy to play but the reward is in return very low. You can’t hold a point. You can harass a point but it will take you more than 60s to actually kill someone.

In contrary, turret eng. can actually hold a point against a majority of other players 1v1 by putting in very little effort. The reward is already too high for this particular build.

Ele is currently the go-to class in pvp. Almost every team will take at least one ele, some take two.

E.g. Helseth is rebuilding his TCG team. He picked two eles in the recent WTS qualifier. According to his words, eles players just can’t strew up.

Me Games Ma.8426:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

I fail every time I try to use Illusion of Life .. All 4 times in over two years.

50% Failure rate with moa.

Never use: iMage, Signet of Midnight, Veil, Signet of the Ether

I love using Illusion of Life!
Example: Before fighting Lupicus with a whole guild group we all disable the aoe indicators and try to do him on range. When someone goes down I’m the guy who finishes them off by “resurecting” them with Illusion of Life! All that happens is that they stand up with less HP and instantly get hit by another aoe and die =P

I could add it to my list if it’d be called “Skills that I never seriously use”

Such a befitting name for the skill, you only has an illusion of life. But very soon, you will get disillusioned.

I kinda like the idea of upkeep for a large army. Similar to Warcraft3, larger army will cost you more gold. We can have larger armies here in GW2 cost supply to maintain. Same goes for structures you are holding. This way, it will be more costly for the server with larger population to maintain everything they have.

One more thing to add in case you don’t know.

GW2 now has megaserver implemented since last April which means you can PvE and PvP with anyone from any server.

So the only thing left that matters in terms of the server you are on is WvW.