Guild Wars 2

Can we please get a title Finally for fractals!

Wuman.9132:

I’m pretty sure they did this so the people who abused bugs at jade maw to level up (using ranger pet revive, revive orbs, or that trick to res someone before Agony killed the team) wouldn’t have an advantage over those who were capped at 49. But those who did hit 49, is an issue I guess…. And those who used people to level up over 49 after those bugs were fixed got screwed over pretty much too…

Those arnt bugs, they are actual game mechanics that players found and used in way Gw2 Devs didnt think about, Just b.c a few players where smarter than the makers doesnt mean everone should be punished.

If they said ALL players will be revert back to level 49, then it would be a different story.

Fafnir.5124:

Way they mad it it is very easy to make another 80 and bring it to fotm. So now it is all about squad building by people who have multiple alts.

But what if I wana play my necro, b.c I put 3k gold into it for the looks, legendary etc… This game is about gameplay and looks, to Pick what class you like and able to stick with that class for ever, this isnt WoW where you have to actually build a team hours before.

Just know your class and the encounters your getting into and prepare your skills.

When played well they can be good for Dredge, Ascalon and Shaman, with the AoE’s of wells with protection and High damage, Pricing DS auto attack and fear, chill and weaken for CC mobs, they can be useful.

But You do have to completely spec for fractals IMO.

I was about to post this same thing.

KOPPER.1458:

for an unskilled fractal runner their general length is often a deterrent. Most of the time I won’t even bother because I know the time commitment it takes to get involved in them.

Anet said each one should take 20-30min, so your looking at 80min – 120min

Honestly that kittening Horse kitten to me. For the kittenting rewards 2hours is WAY to long for a chance, A CHANCE at some good items. When I can do 2 hours of other dungeons and make 15-20g, do that a couple times and just buy all the stuff I need for a Ascended weapon.

We have done 48’s in less than 1 1/2 hours, 28’s my team averages at 45min.

If they want use to do a 2hour dungeon then make it a Raid style one.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Faux.1937:

Narcemus.1348:

Probably so you don’t have an advantage with the new leaderboard, although I agree it’ll probably really suck for you. I’m sorry, I know I would have been kitten ed if they cut out my Achievement points when they included that leaderboard. The only possible advantage that I can see is you’ll have time to get used to the new Mists Instability feature before jumping into 20+ levels of it…

There is a Max level, so why do we have leaderboards? Why do we need them for fractals? In 2 weeks time, there will be 1000’s of top fractal players on the leaderboards b.c there is a hard cap and all the fractal players will hit that hard cap.

incorrect, fractals have been rebalanced. The levels stop scaling at the new level 50. If you can complete level 50 that is the max difficulty. After that it is just acquiring more drops of agony resist and overcoming the gambits. There is no longer a hard cap.

Then I must have misread it.

Im very worried about your 1st topic too. If it is just 1 daily chest no matter what, I know for sure I will not be doing fractals at all in the lower levels.

Palador.2170:

They’re attempting to improve the challenge of the fractals at levels 31+. This is the downside of them trying something new.

Look at it like this: You want to know if someone’s good before you take them into a high level fractal with you, right? Well, what those high level fractals throw at you is going to change. If they DON’T reset this, then how will you know if someone’s good at the new version, or if they simply had a high level from the old version? And how will people know the same about you?

They really do seem to be trying to make people happy here. Let’s get a few more details about the change before we decide if it’s worth what we lose for it or not. Please.

OR, let us try them 1st and see if they actually are hard at all. They actually might be easier b.c the bosses might not 1-2 hit kill you and you may be able to zerk past the “hard parts” in sec just like the new TA path, or just like the older temp dungeons or just like everything else in this game.

Narcemus.1348:

Probably so you don’t have an advantage with the new leaderboard, although I agree it’ll probably really suck for you. I’m sorry, I know I would have been kitten ed if they cut out my Achievement points when they included that leaderboard. The only possible advantage that I can see is you’ll have time to get used to the new Mists Instability feature before jumping into 20+ levels of it…

There is a Max level, so why do we have leaderboards? Why do we need them for fractals? In 2 weeks time, there will be 1000’s of top fractal players on the leaderboards b.c there is a hard cap and all the fractal players will hit that hard cap.

There is no reason good enough to take away someones hard work we have earned.

Ive ran over 200+ fractals and I dont even have a half the skins, I have multi characters in the 20’s and 30’s and my main fractal character is 49 and Ive done about 30-40 level 40+

I truly feel they should be skins and not weapons.

Im ok with it being at level 10 now, b.c we can only have 1 chance to get that weapon a day now, no more doing multi daily runs for a chance.

What do you think each fractal length will be? I know ina week we will know for sure, but its fun to guess and see what the players are thinking compare to the gw2 team.

I’m using baby names for players that don’t know the real names.

Short: Swamp, Water

Medium: Ascolan, Shaman, Winter

Long: Harpy, Dredge, Seal

The problem is, I went out of the water many times and Checked to see if I had a skill stolen and there wasnt, I even “Used up” the steal for the 4-5 sec cool down to try and reset the skill and nothing.

LOL, just saw the title was in caps, let me fit that.

Then I might be bugged.

Im in underwater fotm right now, I went in and out multi times thinking it was a bug and relogged many times.

WHY IS THERE NO STEAL UNDERWATER!!

IDK but I loved the real “previews” I love knowing what Im getting into, I ts not that Im missing out on the surprise, but I just like being informed more than “Oh a suprisehow exciting”.

But Im one of those ppl that will find out the ending to a story before even reading/watching no matter what.

I will miss the 1 day ahead previews.

I LOVE fractals, I have a level 49 guard, thief, a 20+ warrior and some other classes in the 10’s.

But I dont have a mesmer, and no one I plays with likes mesmer for fotm, and everytime I play a pug with a mesmer it seems that they HELP A LOT and brings something my teams are missing.

With feedback, Mimic, blink/portal, and multi fways to push foes, I feel mesmers bring things that other classes dont and really helps the team.

But IDK how to begen as a mesmer, Ive only played one to farm CoF and SSC.

Currently my build is 10/30/0/30/0 (I am willing to change for High level fractals).
I keep 2 Swords, GS, Staff, Scepter, Focus and Pistol on me at all times, 2 sets of armor (1 full zerk with Scholar runes and another set that has Speed runes with 2 pieces of knights other 4 zerk, all zerk trinkets).

So, Long post, What are some good builds, tips and tricks for high level fractals.

yes
15 characters

I have the Back, water breather and Shoulders, Why not the rest? When we do go back to SSC please give us some armor

Im 95% sure Anet already said they are looking into this and redoing the sigil system. It was in there Big 6 month looking ahead thing I believe.

So… I have Quip and Lord Taeres’s Shadow? Maybe I will make a video of me salvaging them if these nerfs come… Maybe not… maybe split them and give to other characters?

What would you do?

PS. I hate P/P and I will not be forced to play something I dont like, I would shelf my thief for 6months before playing p/p.

IMO it depends on the dungeon and boss fights, I would still take s/p over d/d even with the nerfs coming, and in some dungeons like CoE fighting Alpha you have 3-5sec between his barrage of AoE attacks and your Int Lost is no big deal at all.

IMO Dungeon fights dont last long enough for worrie about the nerfs, the nerfs hurt wvw and pvp.

I’d rather see Venoms play like Signets but with no cast effect, Just something like the guardians Virtues but again with no on casts effects (Meaning like it is on your weapons at all times type of thing).

Examples:

Spider Venom: Ever 5th attack does poison
Skale Venom: 20% chance on Crit to apply Vulnerability
Basilisk Venom: When you reach 50% Hp next attack stuns foe (30sec cooldown)

I think this would be more flexibility to those venoms and more usable within more builds for pve/pvp and wvw.

boumz.9851:

Chicago Jack.5647:

Quit crying and l2p the actual thief class. Not this stupid d/p or s/d cheese in WvW or spvp respectively.

The tell that to all the “meta” builds for all the other classes, thief is a Hit and Run class, a evasions class.

There will always be the “Meta” build, STOP HATING we just lost some of our only meta builds while other classes gets to keep there builds.

As of right now (tested it 30+ times lol) In PVE open world content, doing the events in Kessex Hills everytime I have Stability on and become feared, or I am fear and use Stability/break stun skills the fear still goes on me and make me run away.

I have not tested it in pvp or wvw at all.

But after I notice I did ask the guild and friends to test this out as well, and sure enough they couldnt break the fear either.

Hmm ok tyvm or the link.

Having the “Targeting” key bound for “Nearest Enemy” doesnt, it will target the champs/legendary over anything else just like Next enemy.

I DO NOT WANT TO TARGET CHAMPS/LEGENDARY IF I WANT TO TARGET THE NEAREST ENEMY!

Its the NEAREST for a reason, not skip over 20 mobs to target something OUTSIDE MY RANGE!

Please fix this… it is very very annoying.

hybrid.5027:

15/15/0/20/20 will work really well until like 70+ fractals (so im told). These traits are more for hammer/GS.

10/30/0/5/25 will allow you to keep all the utility TRAIT you want and output really good damage. Best ran with Sword/focus+GS.

Other than that, you can do what you want really. But these 2 trait setups are probably the most common. I wouldn’t recommend 0/0/30/30/10, especially not for higher level fractals, where your damage output starts to become more important.

And then the obvious for last, Berserker gear (Assassins if you want to be a hipster, I guess).

I never did 0/0/30/30/10 for fotm, just for dungeons like AC etc.. that had lots of conditions, making 1 party member in charge of party cleanse and helpw tih heals but still able to do 4-5k auto attacks we felt was a good idea (My team that runs dungeons), having a small “safety net” so to say, we know we arnt perfect at the game with ever little dodge and block (well not yet).

For fotm, dont really need all that extra condition removal or some extra healing/survival is a member goes down, and so I run 10/30/0/5/25 build.

@Fox, “Is it true? Are guardians just plain bad now? Or are people overreacting.”

This isnt the opinion of the Community, but my own (Ive played guardian for over 1.2k hours and have a total of over 3500hrs in GW2, and I do try my best to find the best builds out there, I put 100’s of hours into build testing and research so dont go call me a noob please, I know how the community is when it comes to “not doing the meta all the time”).

The more Im playing warrior (I have 2-3 different builds I play, Zerk, Zerk/support, and just the meta Spvp build) the less and less Im playing my guard, I too have 3 builds for my guard (Zerk, Zerk/support and Spvp).

I find the warrior does the same things but better to a point, yes the warrior doesnt have as much support, but with a good team for pve you dont need a lot of party supports.

When I play my guard I feel like Im being left behind and Its taking all my skill to stay in the race, where warrior just feels like Im in front the whole time.

I feel like the Guard is just being over shadowed by other classes, its not that the Guard is bad, its just we dont have a special place for us.

This is just how I feel

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Khallis.5708:

People like actual Variance in builds not cookie cutter. Unfortunately this game doesn’t support this right now.

so thats why every noob in this game runs Zerker.

I wish this were true. 90% of puggers join with PVT or Cleric or Knight’s gear, running a “support” weapon doing kitten damage. So keep living in a fantasy world where most “noobs” run around in zerker gear. If this were the case, I wouldn’t hate pugging so much.

I had a pug level 28 group yesterday (on my warrior) after talking to them alittle and seeing that our DPS was very good, we face rolled all the bosses/mobs and was done with the fractal in 1hr, It was the best pug group I’ve ever had.
Being everone was some type of “DPS” build 1st (some had a few trait 20-30 here or there in either a little in both toughness and vit, or all in vit or toughness) but at least 40 points into dps and zerk gear.

I used to run 0/30/30/0/10, zerk gear and it just feels so lacking now compare to when I play other classes anymore.

I also do a (for dungeons not fotm) 0/0/30/30/10 build, Zerk everything but runes of soldiers, and this build was with my friends, they all run 100% pure zerk, so i was the person to “pick up” or “keep them alive” if we “messed up” so we wouldnt wipe, But that build doesnt seem to support no where near as it used to and there for pointless.

Ive been playnig guardian for a while now and I loved it, but with this new patch, my warrior is looking more and more useful… With just as easy Condition cleans with shours, healing … from shouts, good regen skills, might stacking and loads of fury, compare to guardian IDK what to pick. I know guardian can add some more condition removal and some blinds. But with the New patch, what should the new guardian fotm and dungeon build be?

Ive tried hammer, staff, sword with focus, shield, torch set ups, Ive done blind spam and even additional crit/might stacking, but I guess I just cant find the good balance with dps and team support.

Help me have fun with my guardian again

Ok.. so when is the next hotfix?

Yeah.. well I was dead not downed, Might have been lag, doesnt matter still the fast your taking 44k damage from a stupid bug.

This needs to be fixed now, instant killing, not downed, but out right kills players, Chaos Storm and fall damage some how does 40k + damage in an instant.

I am reporting anyone that does this.

Ok tyvm, now I dont feel bad for leaving the middle lol. But why did you take out the other event from the middle of last year? I know its a big question to ask.

Make it 3 hours now and nothing.

Has anyone else done the Main middle event in the labyrinth let? Last year it was semi fast, but 2 hours? specially for a 1 time a day event (most likely)?

Or are they not doing that middle event anymore?

This is how I did it. We pulled them to the end, then just spamed CC when Oozes got close.

Anet said no new expansions, they keep saying new content will be given out via living story…

What if, very slowly over the years the game as we know it piece by piece will be deleted and “redone” with new content from the living story just like TA F/U is now?

Just a fun and very scary Idea

TexZero.7910:

Look just because you and 4 masochist found that path fun, doesn’t make it fun.
TA in general is honestly their worst put together dungeon and it needs more than just deleting a path to make it worth anyone’s time to even consider doing. The only reason i even did it in the first place was for the dungeon master title and that was out of sheer boredom.

I love TA Its one of my fave dungeons, I dont normally do F/U but i will for guildies to help them out, I love the plants and “run”/“skip” parts to, YES to me Skipping in that dungeon running while shorting plants is the FUN part, its like Im running for my life or to rush to the boss as a story scene.

Its stupid that they are just taking it out, Anet spent time on it, it is in the game already why take it out?

This actually scares me, what if they take 1 path out of each dungeon? Will that make players happy? CoF p3, SE p2, Arah P4, AC p2 etc…. will these be the next to go?

Adine.2184:

I agree Engies need a hammer

I look at it a little more like this though

Forgers Strike
1st hit- Deals damage
2nd hit – damage and Vulnerability
3rd hit damage and fire field

Heavy Blow
Damage and Daze

Pulverizing Smash
AoE damage and Blast Finisher

Counter Blow
Block next attack then Knock down foe

Bellows Blow
Damage and Knock back

Sweet, I love the ideas.

Why dont engineers already have at least a Mace or hammer? Doesnt that make sense? And why no melee weapons?

Well here are just some Fun ideas for a Hammer and/or Mace, no Skill CD’s or Casting times, just some fun ideas. I would play a engi if I could melee….

Engineer Mace and Hammer skills

Mace:

Skill 1 Auto attack: Pumbling
1st hit – Deals damage
2nd hit – Deals some damage adds Vul
3rd hit – x3 hits at a faster speed

Skill 2: 2 Part skill
1st part – Throw Mace and sticks to foe
2nd part – Pull foe and cripple

Skill 3: Torque
Spinning attack (combo Field whirle) Hits foes in a 360

Hammer:

Skill 1 Auto attack: Clunk
1st hit – Deals damage
2nd hit – Deals damage
3rd hit – Smash the ground deals damage and cripples foes

Skill 2: Plunge
Leap in the air and strike the ground dealing damage (blast finisher)

Skill 3: Anvil
Channeling Block skill (counters) an attack to Knock back foe and deals some damage

Skill 4: Mighty blow
Smashed the ground with a mighty hit, (Fire field) fire damage and protection

Skill 5: Skilled Strike
Strike foe’s knocking them down

I wana know more about the 3rd Pic, looks like some towns/buildings.

There are Charr (a engineer type of race, this was known sense gw1) and Asura a race that also based on building machine like objects, but both still use magic to do this.

IDK why it matters at all, I kinda like it, kinda like a Final Fantasy game, a mix of future with the past and a dash of the present.

lordkrall.7241:

Faux.1937:

No it doesnt

Fantasy-
~the faculty or activity of imagining things, esp. things that are impossible or improbable.
~The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy
~An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need*

There is no meaning of that word being place to only mean Medieval, Im sorry but that is your lack of knowledge in thinking it means that.

Fantasy can mean Past, Present or Future.

Nor have I ever said it must be Medieval.

“!=” does mean NOT equal to.

“=” does mean queal….. IDK what you mean by an ! in front of it, but the way I read it is that you said Medieval = fantasy, for all I knew that “!” was just that an ! mark.

Anet never said it was a medieval game and GW2 is 200years after GW1, in 200 years a lot can be learned.

lordkrall.7241:

Fantasy != Medieval.

Steampunk is still considered fantasy, even if they use robots and other somewhat “modern” weapons.

No it doesnt

Fantasy-
~the faculty or activity of imagining things, esp. things that are impossible or improbable.
~The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy
~An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need*

There is no meaning of that word being place to only mean Medieval, Im sorry but that is your lack of knowledge in thinking it means that.

Fantasy can mean Past, Present or Future.

Sorry about my bad grammer! I know alot have been asking the same things and I hope the dev’s could at least comment on some of them XD

Questions

Will it “up” scale you to level 80

Is it a daily reward or can we get the chance for multi runs daily rewards out of chest?

Will this be consider a Hard mode like in GW1?

Do we gain TA tokens from this?

Suggestions

Make a level 80 or a up scaled path to all dungeons that do not count towards dungeon master, give them all special rewards instead of tokens Ex: Same skins but just upgraded looks/colors (like Teq weapons for ascended) that can drop from the end chest and a couple achievements for the “Up scaled” path (maybe 3-5 per dungeon)

More dungeon Achievements for dungeons that already are out

Some dungeon Paths needs some tweaking, TA F/U is only example the end boss is alittle to hard, but then other dungeons are to easy. I understand some paths should be easier and other harder, but a Lower level dungeon should be easier than a higher level, AC, CM and TA should be “Learning” Dungeons and SE, CoF and Hotw should be harder needing more skill to beat where Arah should be long and hard.

A achievement Paneling shower what paths you have not completed yet for each dungeon.

Thats it for now, I can ask/say more, but these are IMO what is important. Thanks for reading.

Borlis Passm B.c we will never beat him…