I would rather do Gold Find it is way more useful IMO, I did the MF one and I will never wear it again that I got my Gold Find.
At every boss in every dungeon you get money no matter what, and b.c of that the gold find is + that % of gold no matter what.
I do lots of Fotm and it helps me out far more.
Just a suggestion, and yes Get a 2nd Amulet too
- Limited Time Content
- Requires 30 days
- Requires Crafting Mastery
- Anyone who doesn’t get it crafted will be subpar until they decide to release it again.LAWL.
‘Release it again’? As long as you get the meta achievement (crstyal node) and get the recipes (which you can collect and throw in your bank until you can use them), you can craft it as you produce the materials. It isn’t going away….
However new players after this event will NEVER be able to get the recipe or armor after the recipes are all sold out.
Now if there was a way to keep up the supply of recipes for example the vendors were available outside of the event area and there permanently this would be a non-issue.
The Mining node and Quartz arnt account/souldbound neither are the Recipes. Just like Halloween Items, new players will have to pay alittle more to get the gear.
I Did Halloween but didnt know about the Crossing, 3 months later I bought the Recipes and materials.
500 points is not really alot, it doesnt get you from the bottom % to the top %, only the hard core achievement point players does it really matter to,
You people sound like your 127,970 ranked spot is doomed to be at 128,837 b.c of of 500 achievement points..
I have less than 6k AP for what matters. But it’s a matter of principle… If someone that wanted to be nº1 and didn’t play Gw1, he can’t be nº1 because someone who played Gw1 that also wants to be nº1, had achieved things in other games!
Its not like 500 points matters, Im glad anet gave it to them, BC you know the leaderboards actually effect the game.. wait? NO THEY DONT.
It don’t matter to you, but you don’t have the right to speak for those who cares…
And, If they don’t matter, why to give 500 at all. Better to give nothing… Would this be alright for you?
Yes it would be ok with me, b.c int he end LD is for the players that truely want to see the number 1 spot and have something to brag about.
Thats why I said if the top 10 players didnt play gw1 and the top player did THEN there was a reward given to the TOP player, you know the one that did play gw1 the other 9 now has a right to be angree… there is only the reward of bragging so there is no point to be mad at a little extra amount of points given to a small % of loyal players.
So by your logic, ArenaNet should have said in the game:
“- Atention: to actually be able to achieve the top points in the leaderboards, you actually have to buy a different game”. Otherwise is a complete false advertising. Whatever you do in GW2 you may not be the nº1!
They are the same company GW1 and GW2 both ran by Anet, it is very common in all manners of life to Reward Loyal customers, it doesnt matter if they are 2 different products or not.
Its like a rewards card, or a gas rewards card, or a work place that when you change departments you still keep your seniority.
Those players invested money and time into NOT GW1! But into Anet in the GW franchise.
So the way I see your comment is if I buy a PC at Bestbuy and get a coupon It should only be used in the Computer Department. B.c we both want the new 56" TV and I get it for 250$ less than you did b.c I was a loyal customer, so you yell at the story and call up bestbuy to QQ about it to them saying it isnt far?
Thats how I see people on this forum acting, they are forgetting Anet is a business 1st and will reward their loyal customers more, b.c that is good business.
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So, what about those players who missed out on the Halloween achievements or the Flame & Frost achievements? Should they start whining too?
The early bird gets the worm. Get over it.
And the other new events that will be coming out every two weeks, dont forget about those QQ’ers
500 points is not really alot, it doesnt get you from the bottom % to the top %, only the hard core achievement point players does it really matter to,
You people sound like your 127,970 ranked spot is doomed to be at 128,837 b.c of of 500 achievement points..
Honestly come on… Unless you have 10k + and did play gw1 and the 3-4 people at 11k did and got the 500 points, then you have something to be mad about.
Those players that did get 500 points, do you TRUELY feel you will get past them within the 1st 2 years of the game? I dont, I can safely say they will be trying for top points for at least 2-3 years if not more, I mean they already did play a game for 7 years without stopping and they do already have just about everything in the game done.
Its not like 500 points matters, Im glad anet gave it to them, BC you know the leaderboards actually effect the game.. wait? NO THEY DONT.
It is just alittle something extra for players to judge how well they are doing and for the hardcore players to have some friendly competition.
KEEP THEM!
I love them, Im not trying to get to the top 10% It is a great way to know how your doing over all, I played GW1 for 7yrs + and for Anet to say “thankyou for being with us for that long of time.” they gave me a few skins (that look terrible too lol) and some extra Achievement points.
Those little extra 300-400 (most dont have 500 lol) doesnt make the different between being in the bottom 20% to the top 20% not even close, the only thing it does is maybe get you from 1000 placed to 800 placed.
Even tho its a different game (GW2 compare to GW1) it is still the same company, other companies do it all the time, we are loyal customers and they are just trying to give us that little bit to prove they love us.
Its just like your job, the workers that been there longer get more benifits due to seniority, even if they “Change” departments they still keep some seniority but also are still brought down to the other workers level in most ways for in the work place benefits.
There is nothing wrong with Leaderboards and awarding Loyal players with a slight boost. Some players it seems like they only live to be in the top 100. theyw ould compare Achievement points anyways, I know I was comparing and asking on a monthly bases of my guild memebers and Ive seen other doing it to, it just makes it easier for us to do that now.
Stop being jealous, get a copy of gw1 in 1 month you to can get 100-200 points out of it if you find the right guides.
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Ok! so Ele are good for it, engineers can be, just not as much as ele. Just like a few more players opinions.
Having a couple opinions is cool, but more is better
Post some trait Builds you feel will go good with the new +all stats armor along with runes and trinkets
Im not a good ele yet, so im not posting, But I do know I’ll be going D/D ele
No you are saying “dont do +all stats b.c it sucks” Im asking and saying, lets find the best class/build for it"
Im trying to find a way to use the +all stats the best I can, you people keeps going back to, “Zerk is better run that, dont do +all stats”
It seems you dont get it, Lets talk about +all stats and what classes it works better with.
kitten ppl thats the name of the topic, its not “Is +all stats worth it?”
So many ppl not even trying to figure out a good class for +all stats b.c you dont like it or feel you think its crap.
Why dont we talk about “What claases and types of builds are good for +all stats?” instead of just saying “Its crap, go zerk only”
Ok Ok we understand you think zerk is god.. fine, get that out of the way, can we please actually talk about how to use +all stats now? B.c maybe we want to for fun? b.c there is more to fun than killing things super fast.
Sigh…
“Good” in what way?
“Viable” to finish PvE content? Anything. Doesn’t matter. You can do it naked. The gear is not class-locked so anyone can use it, and you barely need gear to finish PvE content, so it doesn’t matter.
Efficient?
None in PvE.
In PvP: D/D Ele. MAYBE very specific Engineer builds… And that’s a very questionable “maybe”. Nobody else truly benefits from the “scattershot” approach and would be better off with more specific gear tailored to their builds.
I believe this has been posted repeatedly now.
Enough of the “it doesnt matter” because it does matter, yes you can do basic pve with “No gear” but that doesnt mean it is “good” and what I mean by good is, you can do your quests/story/dungeons/fractals and be able to finish it feeling good, not dying all the time, feeling like you actually did something and not something that make you feel better than other players like “I did it with no gear, look at me” but know that your character can handle it and the sense of completion.
If gear didnt matter at all, then no one would be where it, Zerk cof p1 runs wouldnt require gear checks, some parts of dungeons like the 1st boss in TA wouldnt be a dps race and zerk well, zerk wouldnt get a name b.c there would be no one wearing zerk armor they all would laugh and say “you got armor on? well you must suck at this game”.
Lets me real for a minute and actually discus something that could help players make a good fair choice within the means that they want.
So many ppl not even trying to figure out a good class for +all stats b.c you dont like it or feel you think its crap.
Why dont we talk about “What claases and types of builds are good for +all stats?” instead of just saying “Its crap, go zerk only”
Ok Ok we understand you think zerk is god.. fine, get that out of the way, can we please actually talk about how to use +all stats now? B.c maybe we want to for fun? b.c there is more to fun than killing things super fast.
That just means you’re bad players and you need to be better. It doesn’t mean that the gear itself is worse. You’re using a crutch. You’ll run faster once you let go of it.
See, you just lose the attention of people by saying things like “you’re bad players”. Bad players? Sheesh. I was trying to listen to your view before you say things like this. Now you will just annoy people. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you that zerker is not ALWAYS the best way to go no questions brooked, doesn’t make them bad. Maybe it makes them better and more versatile, adaptable to more situations. Without the backup of someone with some form of healing, many zerker builds go down quickly. Honestly, if you want a discussion, avoid ticking people off. If you just want to flame, then you’re as bad for this discussion as you think the rest of us are at playing.
I feel the same, and completely agree with everything you just said.
Also don’t forget ANet said the LS so far was a test and i also remember that in the future they’ll add permanent stuff also.
I probably should have mentioned that this post was brought on by anets newest video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK6GK3bxGuk
And while they did mention they’d be adding permenant content they stress that they’ve already added lots of permenent content in the past. So I’d wager we’ll get more o f the same mix of Permenant Content Vs. Temporary content that we’ve seen so far.
That video, the 1st Ive seen and Im glad I watch, basically says not all the content in temp and they will have new perm content with mix of temp conent…. now im happy.
I’d say ranger or engineer. They both have access to a high amount of conditions and healing to take advantage of the condition damage and healing stat, which are the hardest to take advantage of. Every class makes use of the rest of the stats easily enough. Also: since they are classes you don’t typically expect to go dungeoning, therefore never allowed in Zerker speed runs, you don’t have to worry about being kicked from those groups for not being decked out in full zerker gear since they would kick you for your class anyway.
Hmm Im having fun in my KNIGHTS armor.. aka not zerk for engineer but I might try it engineer instead of ele. I just use my engineer for fun anyways, b.c well its a very fun class to play lol.
It makes sense that you need a class to do all the stats well, I just dont know each class that well to know the answer, I now thief and guardian dont like +all stats very much.
Not everyone is GOD at playing every class like you are, most players arnt perfect like you are and take damage and hits, When I do arah I love my guardian and I love my thief, they are bunker builds, if it wasnt for those builds alot of the times we wouldnt have beaten arah.
That just means you’re bad players and you need to be better. It doesn’t mean that the gear itself is worse. You’re using a crutch. You’ll run faster once you let go of it.
How many high level fotm you see are full zerk parties? hmm I seen none, they all have some type of toughness or Vit with them yes a warrior or 2 with zerk is normal but guardians or that other warrior, normally not.
All the good ones. Especially since at high level fractals things one/two shot you anyways.
Show me a video of Full 5 man zerk teams (with different classes) doing, AC, CM, TA, Arah and 30+ fotm… then I might change my mind to ZERK IS GOD.
Go on youtube. Type [name of dungeon] speedrun. Tada.
I dont get 1-2 shot in fotm unless your talking about the bosses “big hit attacks” and if you have a full team of 5 that know the runs perfectly, the mobs and the mobs attacks then yes you can go full zerk, but very very few players in the world have that at there finger tips everytime they want to do a run or dungeon, Im going to stay with my ptv gurdian, i have zerk gear for warrior and thief if I need a zerk, my guardian does amazing things and I dont see it as zerk is better. a few of you feel that way, fine. Im sorry you feel that you can only play zerk and everyone else sucks. There are multi viable builds and gw2 isnt about killing the foe as fast as you can.
They’ll all be viable – but viable is a loose term. Just because nobody’s worked out a build for this yet doesn’t mean they won’t. Depends on the kind of play you want as well.
Professions in GW2 are specifically designed so they can be specced into any attribute you want. Yes, some builds are less effective than others, but no less viable. They’ll still work. If you want to farm an area then they’ll all be viable. If you want to speed run a dungeon, less so, clearly.
I think most professions will “hold their own”. You can still spec out fully down one or two trait lines and receive a nice little boost to your other stats. No, you won’t put out the raw DPS of a full zerker build, but you will most certainly “hold your own”. It’s not ALL about the armour.
spoken like a true politician. Say it in a way that favors all sides lol.
The way I see it is, if it cant do some of the Harder content in the game with a nice success rate (that also depends on the player and skillfull they are with that class) then it isnt worth it, thats why I say dungeons alot. a dungeon compare to a pve area are completely different difficulty levels and you even HAVE to use other players to win.
For meta farming dragon to dragon, I dont think it matters if your in all white gear, it will die and it will die fast… well besides Jormag lol.
The question is still, Is there a Viable class that can use +all stats armor/gear with a success rate? Not that it has to be the 100% best build but can it hold its own?
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Coming from a player with a Guardian as a main (well and a thief) And after playing with Zerk, Knights, Valk etc… (full exotics too btw) I find Im not very useful at all, Knights is fine for leveling/solo pve or easier dungeons for a fast run, like SE, hotw, Cof or even TA. But when I made the change to P/T/H and/or P/T/V with runes +% to boons (for fotm) and a armor set for Soldier runes (for dunegon like TA with lots of conditions) I play 1000x better and I could Never go back. There is no need for a Zerk guardian. Now with that said I do have a couple zerk pieces I can switch to just for a little extra damage when it is need like in the Grawl/Shaman fotm level at the part where you need to kill the grawl before they get to the villagers But then I go right back to ptv armor.
Then you’re doing it wrong. Plain and simple.
Only reason to not use full zerker as a guardian in PvE is in VERY specific circumstances where you’re going cleric’s instead, for AoE healing. But for the most part you’d be better off with zerker as well.
This has nothing to do with how you feel about it. You might prefer the style associated with tanking or healing. As far as effectiveness go, full zerker is the right answer.
Not everyone is GOD at playing every class like you are, most players arnt perfect like you are and take damage and hits, When I do arah I love my guardian and I love my thief, they are bunker builds, if it wasnt for those builds alot of the times we wouldnt have beaten arah.
How many high level fotm you see are full zerk parties? hmm I seen none, they all have some type of toughness or Vit with them yes a warrior or 2 with zerk is normal but guardians or that other warrior, normally not.
Show me a video of Full 5 man zerk teams (with different classes) doing, AC, CM, TA, Arah and 30+ fotm… then I might change my mind to ZERK IS GOD.
But for leveling and story quests yes zerk is a VERY good way to go.
New content is fine, Temp content is fine, All new content that is temp only is not fine.
If they fixed the current dungeons making them useful and fun with some good means to an end without grinding 20+ runs, make a better way to get Precursors and the ability to Fast change traits and armors, then this new temp content might be a GRAND idea.
With so many problems in the world, it just feels like they are hiding the bad with new fresh things….
I hope Anet has plans to fix all those things, then maybe I might enjoy the stressful RACE to complete new temp content without trying to get my armor sets and legendary in a reasonably time for me to wear and have fun.
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to have fun
Fun is relative. Some people have fun by running around naked in town. Some have fun by min-maxing. We’re not talking about what’s fun, we’re talking about what’s effective. In PvE there’s no reason to use anything except full berserker gear. Can you? Yes. By all means. Make a full condition damage guardian for PvE if that’s how you get your jollies. Make a full soldier’s one even. Is it effective? No. It’s trash.
In the same manner, anyone can use celestial gear. But if you’re not using a D/D elementalist you’re crippling yourself. Even for a D/D elementalist this is only true for PvP. In PvE it’s full berserker, “as usual”. In PvP, D/D ele is the only spec that makes good use of all the stats celestial offers. That’s the point of celestial gear. It offers you more stats overall, but less of each, so you get a net benefit if you use all of them. However most characters and builds don’t benefit from a great deal of those, crippling themselves on the stats they do need for no reason.
Coming from a player with a Guardian as a main (well and a thief) And after playing with Zerk, Knights, Valk etc… (full exotics too btw) I find Im not very useful at all, Knights is fine for leveling/solo pve or easier dungeons for a fast run, like SE, hotw, Cof or even TA. But when I made the change to P/T/H and/or P/T/V with runes +% to boons (for fotm) and a armor set for Soldier runes (for dunegon like TA with lots of conditions) I play 1000x better and I could Never go back. There is no need for a Zerk guardian. Now with that said I do have a couple zerk pieces I can switch to just for a little extra damage when it is need like in the Grawl/Shaman fotm level at the part where you need to kill the grawl before they get to the villagers But then I go right back to ptv armor.
It took me 410 ectos/obby shards in the Toilet to get my 77 clovers and it took less than 200 for a few of my guildies….
It ia utter crap how GW2 random drop rates work, it should have a way to up the % by the more you play/try.
A guildy of mine (I helped him do it too) spent over 700g on Greatswords trying for Dawn and he happen to get 4 rare scepters from farming cof… put them and and got Storm 1st try…
So I feel your pain im up to 400g+ on a mix of rares/exotics with about 100+ cof runs of exotics in the toilet for the lover and no luck yet.
But your not watching a NEW show this is still the same show. new content like in GW1 Factions, Night Fall and Eotn would be compare to a NEW show, all 3 great games all new content that STAYED, if any of that wouldnt have been left in the game I wouldnt played for 7yrs
And dont tell me you never go back and watch a movie again, I bet there are some movies or shows you seen many times. You like those shows/movies you go back to them, you like the dungeon you go back to it. Its the same thing, If the content was good people will play it.
The new content should be removed for the same reasons that old content in most MMOs is completely dead. Anet doesn’t want to keep dividing their audience further and further. Right now it’s hard enough for some people to get dungeon groups for existing dungeons (with some exceptions).
Once you start adding in newer dungeons, and then more new dungeons…remember they’re coming out with new content now every 2 weeks. What’s going to happen in a year after 26 patches?
Could you imagine what Dragon Ball would be after six months with ten new minigames out? No one would be there at all. You’d have one guy, probably me, standing in the Dragon Ball arena, all by myself, waiting for someone to come. It’s already happening with Keg Brawl. If you want to play you’d better go on daily days because the rest of the time, it’s dead.
Too much content splits the playerbase too finely and then people will complain the world is dead because they can’t get a group.
No one does Dungeons now well some, b.c they are far to hard/long and annoying for the crap reward, no one wants to do AC/CM and Arah 20+ times to get armor when they can just farm CoF for 3-5hours and out right buy armor with same stats from TP those 20+ runs from CM/AC will take x3 or x4 the time and effort than CoF, Hotw or SE.
The Minigames/activities in this game arnt well made, myself and all the gw1 players that remember the old racing games and dragon ball arena find the new games/activities to be lacking and dont do them for those reasons.
You can still have the new content stay in the game, same with mini games, even if you could only do them for one weekend each month I still be happy with that. Just have the dungeons (new dungeons and events) on a rotation for weekend events. Not the full even like living story, just the new content.
There are many ways to have them in game and still make the main world popular.
How would you like it if Xbox, PS or Steam gave you 10 games to play and only those 10 for the next 5 years, then they say “we are giving you a new game ever 2 weeks but at the end of 2 weeks you can never play them ever again”…. does that sound fun to you?
What about he 70% of the players that are not hardcore into the game and have lives, they will be missing out on all these events and dungeons/mini games.
AC/CM/TA are not for new players, sad to say, you need to know your class very very well, change gear/skills as you go from 1 dungeon to another.
All new players that do those 3 dungeons get it handed to them, tho I think AC/TA are easy AC being little harder and TA atlittle easier/shorter and Cm is just a bit longer and more annoying, once you learn the mobs/pull and skills you need they become easy.
With that said, a Guardian is an amazing character in any dungeon, they are great for parties and have loads of support, from Protection (-33% damage taken), Aegis (Blocks an attack), Regen and a great Elite skill to heal the whole party to 100%.
They also have party speed buffs and many many other protection spells. They work great with warriors and thieves too, not being able to deal lots of damage, the warrior/thief/ele can do the damage for you. so your friend will be happy.
IMO guardian with Knights gear for leveling and general PVE is good, if you want more hardcore pve and dungeons Knights still works just tkaes more skill, but Soldiers is amazing too, you just wont have much DPS.
Soldier = Power, Toughness, Vitality
Knights = Power, Prec, Toughness
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depends on if you have a build that can make use of most of the stats; balanced builds, hybrids and classes with a use for the healing power, for example.
but even in a balanced build, you want to get one or two stats relatively high, which isnt possible with too much celestial.
so i dont recommend getting a full celestial armor, but having a couple of celestial pieces or divinity runes are awesome in the right build.btw, is there even already information about how high the celestial armor-stats are?
Not sure, I looked at Dulfy.net they said they couldnt actualy make the armor, Im guessing +30 points but… that just a completely random guess HAHA
@marnick, do you use pistol pistol, b.c Im having loads of fun in my Knights? (P/Pre/T) gear set with a rifle.. its just so so fun in both pve and wvw
Pistol shield, merely because I like the shield control so much. Given I often go into dungeons with elixir gun and healing turret, the +healing isn’t wasted either. I literally use every stat on celestial. Even the little MF counts in the long run.
Honestly, I’d much rather have +20 spread than +15 minmax. It’s more fun, more flexible and less annoying. The zerker elitists I couldn’t care less about.
hmmm, I still will give it a try, but I think it will be with my ele, I understand what your saying and why and I fully understand why players dont like it too.
I love min/max build mostly b.c they are VERY effective, to be able to deal 15k crit hits (both warrior and thief, yes warriors can do that in WvW) that is just an amazing feeling that your being useful and can do something, or funning a level 48 fotm with full P/T/V gear and actually living threw multi hits.
You can clearly see the builds working, with +all stats you still see yourself taking damage but dont see your damage output at high ends to win a fight.
Even with all that I want to still try it.
I feel the same, I love the new dungeon (Done it 20+ times) Love the Molten dungeon too just a couple months ago, did that one 15 times ish. And I will/do miss them very much.
Everyone in my guild that are the players that play day to day (the more hardcore players I guess) even tho its just 30% of the player base, we still want this content to stay and would love to play it time to time.
There is no reason to “remove” this content, they can keep it in, it wont make the game better by removing a full dungeon, it only adds to the game.
It is very up setting to me to here every 2 weeks we might get a new dungeon or event just to loose it again. and I fear (after playing gw1 for 7yrs +) that I my grow to hate gw2, and Im a hardcore fanboy so to say.
I hope Anet changed their minds and keep some of the new content or we are all doomed.
@marnick, do you use pistol pistol, b.c Im having loads of fun in my Knights? (P/Pre/T) gear set with a rifle.. its just so so fun in both pve and wvw 
I Do Min/Max I have a P/T/V and P/T/H armor /stats for my High level fotm Guardian (30+) I go either full zerk or full bunker/condition on my thief, full zerk warrior (no need for bunker/support thats what my guardian is for). My mesmer is P/Pre/Tou for phantasms.
But with the new armor and now we can “can” go full +all stats either GW or the community really wants us to use it.. haha and sense I never thought about it before and thought no need for it, I never theorycraft the build before.
With that said I would like to have 1 class and 1 armor set full +all stats just for pve meta events and general fun play, And I know +all stats arnt good for guardian so that means I’ll go d/d ele.
Thanks.
Just your opinion, and I hope this is in the right place to post this, what is the top class(es) for the +all stats armor that is coming out with +all stats trinkets and runes of divinity?
If you was going to make a +all stats fully geared character what one would you pick and why?
MF works in the way it rolls for a higher/better table/rarity table, we dont know where materials go in this rarity table of Anets, we dontknow if Anet thinks Materials are better than greens or between blues/greens or they are in a different table all together.
Just like Heroes Banners, Harvesting, Magic Find etc…. I honestly Feel it would help the Economy and player moral if we had some type of way to get a better % chance to find Crafting Materials, something Like a Banner, could also be a Infusion.
What do you guys think?
tyvm
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LOL My thief is a Bunker Condition thief and I have 0 problems in any dungeon even arah, with 2700 armor, 700+ healing and 1500 condition damage, I will keep 25 stacks of bleed on foes at all times + poison and heal 3-5k per second.
If you having problems in Dungeons learn a different build, and Learn how to use Combo fields and Finishers.
Yeah I wont get into a Full Zerk cof run, but who cares thats what my warrior and mesmer are for, but for Arah, SE, CM, AC, TA and HoW Im thief all the way.
I have 0 problems in Pve or Dungeons, Honestly Dungeons for me are easier as a thief than any other class, I have a fotm 30+ guardian that has a harder time in some dungeons compare to my thief.
Its all on the build/armor you need per dungeon, I have 5 completely different armor sets, I run a condition thief.
my build is 0/0/30/20/20.
I spec into having the most Init regen as I can, I use ONLY SoM and never pop it (Signet of Malice), I run D/D and SB for most, sometimes take out SB and go P/D for that extra damage on single foes.
I use mostly Carrion Armor for the CD and Health, then use mostly Apothecary Trinket set.
With my 800+ Healing Power and 1400+ Condition damage, spaming Death Blossom and stealth when in danger, I never die. I normally dont even go 1/2 down on health.
Only Arah and Fotm do I have this problem and time to time will die in those 2 dungeons (mostly just against certain foes/bosses)
With my thief I love the Boss Lupis in Arah SO MUCH, I havent died on him yet as a thief, and I melee him 90% of time.
As A zerk thief, I find dungeons are not fun at all, my friend is a GREAT zerk thief in dungeons, but I cant do it.
Myself have done 28 fotm as thief, a memeber of my guild does 48’s as a thief, thieves can do great damage in fotm, but there are 2 problems in fotm with them, they have no team support skills as in buff’s like warriors and guardians have, no extra type of healing buffs either like engineer and ele.
They also have a low survival rate compare to war, ranger and necro.
The higher levels you go, the more a pug wants warriors and guardians, my guardian was p/t/h and when I got to level 48 for the 1st time I changed my guild right away to p/t/v b.c the extra Health was needed to not get 1-2 hit killed. Its not that thiefs are bad, its just that higher level of fotm are harder and all squishy classes that have low survival are looked downed on.
I have played my thief for 1200+ hours so far, I love it, I love everything about it, I have 5 full armor sets for it, but…. Ive only played some wvw and LOADS of PvE, In pve I’d say I have completely mastered the thief, Ive only went up to level 28 in Fotm b.c I have Guardian just for that, but I have made it through level 28’s with being the last man standing many times.
With that said I would like to PvP more and WvW more. I have used Zerk and condition builds many times, all with d/d or d/p and p/d.
I was wonder with blinding combo fields and our good utility skills can you pvp with p/p?
Honestly, Im just tired of d/p, p/d and d/d and Im tired of Condition builds, very tired of them lol. It seems the game is based around conditions 1st.
And advise be welcome.
Honestly I love my Signet of Malice condition build, With a mix of Carrion and Rabid and Healing power, 500 Healing is enough.
Going 0/0/30/20/20 or 5/0/30/20/15 the 2nd one for extra poisoning. With the new less init cost on Death blossom and SoM getting a very small boost, it has made this build more useful.
SoM will gain you around 100-130 health per hit, that mean in dungeons its GREAT! b.c NPCs will staying in you Caltrops (lets say 3 mobs) per hit you being healed for (at 125 health per hit from SoM lets say) 375 per sec, add the dodge roll caltrops another 375, then 2 deathblossoms for (each DB lets says hits 2 foes x2 DB for 12 hits total) another 1500, they now have 18+ stacks of bleed and you where being healed 1500 from DB and another 375×2 for each second (lets say 3 seconds) for a total of 3750. After that you CnD to heal for even more b.c you have the trait Shadow’s Rejuvenation for another 300+ health per second. Stealth for 3 seconds for a grand total of 4650.
Remember, that was against 3 foes and you didnt hit all of them all the time.
With 5+ foes your healing 5k per second and 15k + over 3-4 seconds, then add dagger storm, its just insane the amount of health gain.
Make sure to have Runes of Undead and some extra toughness (thats what rabids is for) and the carrion for some extra Health. the Apothecary is good to, but have less CD, I would say a couple trinkets for the healing power is good enough.
A word of Warning, this build is amazing only for PvE and Dungeons, for PvP/WvW there are far better builds.
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In this type of team build any class can do 35K + damage easily so no it doesnt look ridiculous.
When I play my thief hitting 17k + per each Pistolwhip and that may seem low, but I can do that 4-5 times before his is off cool down. Thats 85k damage, but while his 100b is on CD he is still auto attacking using other skills too. So it goes out about the same maybe thief alittle higher.
Ive been doing 30/10/0/0/30 and 30/0/0/10/30 it seems the 2nd one does less damage, but I make sure to do 20+ runs to get a good idea per trait line.
I would test in pvp but you dont get all the buffs/bonuses as you would with the mesmer and warrios give 25stack of might and the vul+banners.
Now I just need to know/figure out if a/a or a/m is better than GS. (besides eviscerate, that is just a great damage attack)
1) he had all ascended trinkets
2) the mesmer made it so he had 25 stacks of might
3) he is full zerk
4) the warriors stack 25 vul on bosses
5) thief can do this too but actually have higher damage output when played right (thief cant help give might and has less armor, also no team support at all where warriors are high armor, gives might, removes conditions and has banners, but Ive seen thiefs kill the door control in 2 sec)
6) this is a zerk speed run, other classes such as ranger, guardian can do 40k damage
7) Ive seen eles do more damage.
8) this dungeon is set up to allow these huge amounts of damage, you will not see this in many other areas of the game.
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ok so with all this talk there is so far not been a community agreement on the “BEST” build Im seeing some say GS others say a/a or a/m and then the traits are either, 30/25/0/0/15, 30/10/0/0/30 or 30/0/0/10/30.
Anyone tested each of these build out yet? out of these what is the 100% “BEST” trait with the weapon choice?
I too have seen many AFK players and something needs to be done about this.
Oh ps. Give the players something like in GW1 in PVP to vote being a bad team mate or AFK to give them a Time out from playing that game for 20min, 30min 1 hour etc..
For the past couple days Ive joined 50+ games and at lease 80% of the time there is 1+ players on either team that are AFK.
This is a real problem, what ever team they are on auto looses, it is free Points ever 20 seconds or so.
Any1 else having problems with this?
I can handle it find, Just wanting to know what you guys do, I did report and block but if Anet wont do anything about it then should I even bother?. I think he opened and had friends so I dont think kicking would do any good, and it was CoE like I said not CoF, playing at 2am on my time EST, its hard to get a group at that time.
Yeah, but after hearing it for 20min and my blood boiling telling him to shut up didnt seem that bad of a deed.
I played a game with “travis the terrible” in a coe p1 run, right from the start, very very poor attitude, yelling at players, F’ bombing them, and IF IF you would like to help or suggest an easier way (Like stacking/pulling mobs into a .. stack to kill fast) god forbid it and he would just go OFF on you.
Well he started yelling again, right at the last boss (a few players kept dying, but we was killing the boss very easy none the less) and I told him to to shut up… well him and his friend kicked me…
His attitude was the worst I’ve ever seen, and If he would have acted like that in my face I really would have rather beat him down with my fist and go to jail than listen to him, he was that bad….
Soooo…. How do you deal with these types of players? or have you been with there players before? Should I report them?