Guild Wars 2

Don’t you reckon this actually COULD work in some sense? No shouts though, still a great deal of power and 25% crit chance with no fury and unsuspecting foe and 2 utlitites that fills your adrenaline. with fury and unsuspecting foe triggered it’s still 95% crit chance and 2730 power. Still only relying on the base cirt damage though. I’m sure it will crit enough times but not sure wether the crits will be nutty enough. With bloodlust stacks without any might the power will be around 3k. I actually do reckon it would work in a big group… Usually 30K health is to overdo it though so I don’t see the point. You’d do better with another build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQJASTjMdUGaVI+dwJaAB9QDrCu4oAAVikixgMA-zkBBofBiKIQpmFRjtquIasKbYqXER1BAOAY4ApAEUZE-w

Fixed: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNAS3ejMd04ZlHuewJaABzQDrC9B4I9ANGj0A-z0BB4fCyEBBiKAO3sIasV1FRjVhET7iIqOAwBADP8wDP8wlCgilRA-w (Cleansing ire, empower allies, +10% power of toughness plus fast hands)

Since you’re going shouts you’d want soldier runes and all your problems with condi removal will be fixed. This build is too focused on stats. Also you would want more toughness than vitality, especially since 10% of toughness is converted to power. It means if you have 1900 toughness you get 190 power from that trait alone. And empower allies applies to you aswell, that’s 150 extra power. so you get 340 extra power, that’s 40 MORE than your first build, and now you have alot of survivability aswell(cleansing ire is absolute ACE). I never use desperate power without defy pain trait. I hope you can see why. With fast hands you should consider having on swap sigils also to help you in the actual fights, not just on the writing table.

Some tweaks – you’ll see why yourself. Take away death from above and get fast hands and mobile strikes. Use Lyssa runes with this, the hoelbrak runes just doesn’t make much sense. I’d swap defy pain for cleansing ire for some great condition removal and frankly you don’t need 2 endure pains. I can see the use of vigor and stuff but from my experience – not worth it. Only time I’d take it is with a full damage build paired with desperate power.

I have thought about defiant stance myself but I just… It’s not good enough to swap out healing signet. Keep testing though, it would be ace with a viable defiant stance build.

The stats of the armor are very nice. There’s 2 options though: either you rework your traits and gear to more fit bow and sword/shield or you use other weapon sets. I’d go GS/hammer with these traits and change Cull the weak(completely useless unless your main weaponset is mace/warhorn imo) to dogged march and spiked armor to merciless hammer. I’d also use death from above instead of great fortitude. That’s very individual but I find the utility of death from above hilarious. There’s alot of falls in WvW and I’ve killed alot of people, sometimes whole groups by falling down and they follow me to their deaths.

It’s up to you but I’d never go bow/sword+sh in a powerbuild like this. Also – I would not take Lyssa here. The nr 4 is completely useless when you have healing signet and this build is not about boons but sustain and aggressive play – I promote condi duration decrease in a build like this any day. Resistance/melandru/hoelbrak depending a bit on intentions.

Good luck.

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Sorry, I never Zerg so can’t speak for that. Please contribute to the thread then?

It’s the reason I NEVER go condi with my warrior. It’s simple maths. To do much direct damage you need Power, Precision and Crit dmg. For condi specs you just need condition damage. Which means you can be incredibly tanky but still have extreme DPS. It’s not warrior that’s OP it’s Condition damage.

Note: I couldn’t see the video in my country(Sweden), but from the comments I assume we’re talking about a dire condi warrior.

I’d not take any of your builds. Leg specialist is not good enough to sacrifice empowered allies. If you run healing shouts build, you’re going group specced. Keep in mind though that the shouts bring sustain to your group, not healing.

That means there is 3 traits that you will find best suitable. Lung Capacity, Empower Allies and Healing Shouts. Empower allies brings 150 power to all your party! Do the math. Both of you have fitted Soldier runes which is perfect, but why do you want Quick Breathing? It’s not good enough with all the condi removal you allready have. Empower allies!

You only want to go 25 into Defense. that extra 5 you want for -5 seconds on weapon swap. You do want the 10% from toughness to power though. Dogged march and cleansing ire ofcourse.

That means 15 in discipline. We have one trait slot here. Use it wisely. If you use dolyak signet you need the cd trait for signets. I don’t like dolyaks because you never benefit from the toughness. You don’t need more than 2K toughness if you play OK and that is easily attainable by only armor stats and from defense traitline. If you want stability(not a bad idea.) you want the stance for 20 sec shorter cooldown and you gain a trait. Warrior’s sprint or Mighty Defenses I’d say. I only use cleansing ire for gaining adrenalin and it’s back up before cd is in most cases. If you feel it’s important enough you could go inspiring shouts. Mighty defenses is very situational and I allready have alot of might from my group so I use warrior’s sprint since it’s always active and not an extra mechanic to think about.

I never zerg though. This build is used for small skrimish ganking squads. It’s working a charm. It’s best suited for one party groups. 5 people.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIEQNAS8ejMd06ZlHeeQHaABzQDrC9h5I9ANIj0A-zUyAYMBZKCA9BOBWEN2KbR0Y12Y6zkqcFk9JJlUALpMC-w

Bran.7425:

Gamgee.8612:

I listed the source so people could criticize it, it’s not like it’s a reliable one. I have no idea if these are real or not. What really gave it away when I read it was the HS regen nerfed with 8% without the active being upped. However, these changes will most likely come into effect. Maybe not this patch, but soon. And we will have to deal with it. Just a sneakpeak on what we will become.

That reduction on the passive without the active being adjusted is far from the giveaway there as I really doubt they have found a balance change that would make using the signets active worth-while.

They said, citation marks: “We will NOT reduce the PASSIVE REGEN UNTIL we hade REWORKED THE ACTIVE.” Can’t remember where, but I’m pretty sure it was in the “future patch notes” they release a while ago, might have been stated in a podcast. Since it hasn’t in this patch it’s the only definitive thing that gives it away really.

I listed the source so people could criticize it, it’s not like it’s a reliable one. I have no idea if these are real or not. What really gave it away when I read it was the HS regen nerfed with 8% without the active being upped. However, these changes will most likely come into effect. Maybe not this patch, but soon. And we will have to deal with it. Just a sneakpeak on what we will become.

Jett.1239:

I guess it’s a question of who are we balancing around? This puts your average warrior in a more reasonable place versus other classes, but the meta-level continues to hurt.

True. I’m quite curious about the Shield Trait(I) vs Dogged March now that the regen is removed. Dogged March will still be superior in most builds since it’s great combined with the right set of runes and food, but It’s definitely moving towards a balance.

Rush: This skill now has a recharge time of 25 seconds, up from 20 seconds.
Pin Down: This skill now has a telegraph animation and has a cast time of 3/4 second, up from 1/4 second.
Impale: This skill can no longer be used against targets behind the user. This skill now applies 8 seconds of torment, down from 12 seconds.
Healing Skills
Healing Signet: This skill now passively heals for 8% less.
Defiant Stance: This skill’s initial base heal now heals for 20% more.
Utility Skills
Bull’s Charge: This skill now dazes foes it hits for 2 seconds and now only knocks down foes hit from the back or from the side.
Berserker Stance: This skill now applies berserker stance for 6 seconds, down from 8 seconds.
Traits
Defense I—Shield Master: This trait now increases toughness by 150 when wielding a shield.
Defense II—Dogged March: This trait no longer grants regeneration.
Tactics IV—Stronger Bowstrings: This trait no longer modifies longbow skills in unintended manners.

I will feel the nerfs to my passive regen, both with Dogged March and HS passive. No increase to the active it seems though. However, I feel it’s in good place. I would like to have the regen but it was too little to sacrifice for the amount of regen we got.

Discuss.

Source: http://pastebin.com/dmACCzwx

gebrechen.5643:

I think it’s not the same if you run a 20+ ranger train. So yeah, warrior and guardian need some tuning. If the current zerg gameplay wouldn’t favour guardian and warrior there wouldnt be so many.
It’s not the hammer stun or any single skill it’s the combination of guardian and warrior, the cleansing, the stuns, the survivability.

Except I found these to be the most balanced, along with mesmers, necros and engis. Every other class should be tuned to their level. Ranger is kitten at anything, thieves have the d/p build and there’s no real reason not to use it, ele is also a one-build class. I only met one build of eles that can nuke my hammer warrior. These 3 are ALWAYS the classes that complains about warriors, and it’s those classes that needs to be brought up and taken a look at, not the other way around. Warrior is in a very good state, but completely in line with mesmers, necros, engis and guardians. GS needs to be remade though, the mobility is just too much. Maybe bring down HS also abit, but we know that’s coming.

KarlusDavius.1024:

Julie Yann.5379:

Runty Choir.4893:

Burst mastery makes burst skills cost 33% less therefore only using 2 bars of adrenaline and removing 2 conditions. By not taking it i pay the full cost but lose 3 conditions.

Last time I tested (about 5 months ago) it still removed 3 conditions when burst mastery was traited. I haven’t heard of any changes to it, I guess I’ll have to test it again.

Tested in game.
Burst mastery REFUNDS one adrenaline bar. It expends all bars, which means 3 at full and removed 3 conditions, then refunds one bar.

Don’t take skill tool tips literally. Always test. You have been gimping your build by assuming

Thanks for the clarification.

Runty Choir.4893:

Its the F1 skill. This is my build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS8ejkOFvtQqQMxBE0DNsK4ijCAUJUKmjNE-jwCBoiAoLRm8AmKIQpqFRjtqpIas6FYqSJV5KQaXweDKrSBExwI-e
I only take 20 in Dicipline then cleansing ire removes 3 conditions instead of 2. Also i crit a lot more and have a lot of Fury uptime.
If you wanna see the build in action check the vid in my sig.

I run similar but i go 25 pts into arms and 50% longer bleeds. Cuz 10% damage. Works wonderfully. I run sword, so I get those bleeds going very nicely. Used to run the 0/0/30/10/30 build posted in this thread before, but I basically moved around the traits to give more persistant damage instead of very spiky. Ofc I still deal damage like a truck, but going from 40% with fury to 39% without and 100% crit chance on earthshaker is brilliant for my playing.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNAS8ejkOVvxQuQ4wBE0DNsK4iLjkQJ0HmDA-jkyAYMBZCSgoPwZvpxmADSZsIas6FMdZSVuCy+ElVpAWSZE-w

Gameplay vid:

I agree that the warrior downstate might be the worst skillset. On the other hand, we don’t need to use them becuaes we don’t need to die, and if we do, another set of downed skills wouldn’t save us.

My build would be perfect for you. It’s very mobile but doesn’t use GS. S/Sh + Hammer. The support it brings is really damage and banner. But you have to stay mobile ALL the time. Use your stability and damage blocks wisely.

Build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNAS8ejkOVvxQuQ4wBE0DNsK4iLjkQJ0HmDA-jkyAYMBZCSgoPwZvpxmADSZsIas6FMdZSVuCy+ElVpAWSZE-w

In action:

Takes a bit getting sued to, but it’s very good. You can even swap out the banner and go signet for solo roaming.

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

Buran.3796:

Also, there’s a thing to understand about the WvW raid meta: hammers ALWAYS will be the tool of choice for Warriors, even if damage is nerfed to 200 x hit. The other weapons just aren’t supportive enough for the team to replace the hammers, in the same way as staffs can’t be replaced in the loadout of any raid Guardian. Deal with it.

It’s no hammertrain. You need 2 people to lock someone down forever.
That’s stupid and that should be changed.

What is forever, exactly, to you? You seem to live in your own world were you are god. Come back to earth. There’s different views to this. Sure you need only 2 warriors to stunlock given profession to death, but both have to deal some damage and use a number of skills, and hope that said victim doesn’t pop a stability, something I would’ve done as soon as I see 2 warriors approaching. But then again, you only need 2 thiefs to backstab given profession to death aswell. You need to be more specced into damage, but you have stealth and basilisk venom, no? Any class with 2 people, in fact not even matching class will always have an advantage of one person alone. This is VERY old news, in fact, it was known allready during the stone age. And STILL you only need one click to pop a stability and break the chain. You have to accept and understand that some builds counter others, I run hammer and has done so for a VERY long time, I wreck alot of people in WvW thanks to that, but you know what? Choose a condi build and wear me down or tank me to death. It’s very easy, it happens every day. Most mesmers destroys me. I see that you run a ranger in your description. Don’t do that if you can’t take getting destroyed. They suck as a class, compared to any class. Not just Warriors.

I think that lowering damage on backbreaker and auto chain nr 3 would be good. Keep or up it on weakening blow. It builds for more timed/skillfull playing while still being good.

As it is now I crit about 3k on auto chain number 3. Ofcourse on squishies but still, it could be 2.5K as opposed to 1.5k on nr 1 and 2 on auto chain. Also Backbreaker is good enough to use just because of the knockdown, I once critted 6.5K on an Ele and my build wasn’t specced for damage at all, it had 3.5k armor and 26K health. The ele must have been a glass cannon but still, a tank build should not be able to drain half a GC’s life in one hit. Lower it, it’s too much to also be a 2 second knockdown. I think F1 and staggering blow are fine. And now that hammer damage is very nerfed, up it on weakening blow I say, warriors will try more to land it and build up a chain to do so. It’s telegraphed enough for it allready.

I’m really hoping for the same confusion that was in the beginning of WvW where nobody knew exactly what to do. Probably a long shot but it was fun.

I have a berserker warr for PvE and one for WvW, got tired of respeccing all the time.

Looks like everybody runs longbow and greatsword….

I agree with the gentleman above me, hold on to your cash! Both runes and prices are most likely going to get a rather big change.

On topic: I go with Melandru runes simply because I want to be a bit tankier. Are you not having troubles with direct damage I would suggest Hoelbrak. I also like the minus stun durations on the Melandru runes when I don’t have stability up. Melandru keeps you tankier and more mobile, Hoelbrak gives you an offensive buff and mobility. What goes best with your build and playstyle is up to you.

It’s not broken. Blinds are a great way atm to counter warriors, let them have it. Blind is blind. Cleansing ire is good for those situations, if you don’t Earthshake right into a smoke field, then you have to learn to not do that.

Thanks for this match-up. Despite the blobbery I had some awesome fights. Especially a few nice ones in SM.

Moving to new forum – http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/271213-desolationaugury-rockgandara

Cri Up.9638:

Bozzilla.6380:

Video of last fight of the years for IC guild…on 30/12/12 (yes in italy the day is first on date!) happy new year!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOhFmjAUT9E

Unfortunately because you’re in COIN, I instantly hate you. But on top of that, I love the way in the video you’re only “trashing” Augury Rock, not Desolation… Is it because you actually have no clips of wiping Desolation properly? Hmm. Another thing… Why the hell do you still have the Tower of Nightmare’s meta in the top right, it’s supposed to be “A Very Merry Wintersday” right? Thus showing that the recording is pretty old, irrelevant to the 30th.

That guild would be Insert Coin[IC] and not [Coin]. Please shut your face and remember to wipe your kitten between your kittens. Thanks.

And everybody – get your kitten over here! – http://www.gw2wvw.net/forum ’Tis the new subforum, no more kitten – we can actually swear there! And US T1 allready have nearly 8K threadviews!!!

Dahir.4158:

I like fighting you Augury Rock guys now and hunting down your commanders <3
There were only 4 of us here but I’m satisfied!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5tX37uqlM

P.S. Am I hunted by [YARR] now?

Yes, that female human warrior got offended by your stalking so we were hunting you last night! Not only YARR!! YARR has friends! Moahaha.

MarzAttakz.9608:

Not very harmful 3 vs 30 – get JDGE on even numbers or 3v5 and chances are good you’re going down. I’d take one of them over ten of you any day.

:)

Thanks for the kind words. In return I want to shout to EXG today on EB for your nice manners and small group roaming about with 4-5 people, more of that please Deso and AR!

Here’s to a happy new year everyone!

Also, there’s an external sub-forum, mainly for after this matchup when this forum will be gone but there’s allready a thread: http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/271213-desolationaugury-rockgandara

Thanks for sharing it at least. I’ve been looking around to get a feel of what goes with what and what don’t etc but as I stated before I am no copycat, I take joy in building myself. However last I played Engineer the Toss elexir S was either stability or stealth for 3 seconds and now it’s always stealth so stuff like that is completely new, which makes it a bit confusing.

As for what can’t be killed and the BEST build out there: I know that for example I will be much better off with med kit intead of turret because of my playstyle, just as I know that I want to try out bombs in this build and not nades because I feel more confident in that kind of play. Also the sigil fo energy instead of vigor will suit me better because its more direct.

Thanks everyone for sharing though.

Kontrolle.3514:

This builds seems to be a windmill duel build?
Because i hardly doubt that anyone is so crazy to roam with 0,0 mobility, without stunbreaks.

… lol after looking at the trait spec i have to ask if youre trolling us?

I am not. Would you try and write why you think I’m trolling, and why I shouldn’t have nothing in “mobility”. Especially since I have speedy kits and superior sigil of energy, and toolbelt skills build up 10 endurance. I let the “Vigor on swiftness” go because I would try to rely on the sigil more and get more donition damage. Also, changed the first link to what the build looks like now.

Top suggestions now – incendiary powder? Would probably drop 20 in inventions for it and loose alot fo defensive stuffs. Worth it?

Now it looks like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcEQJAqel0p6ZH5y3F1LJxoCdOkC7bYQP0bexroCYG-jECBodgINAk0A0Hg5QFRjtsuIasadER1eFER1SBso0I-w

I took rocket boots and Napalm, burn on the toolbelt is strong enough to replace pistol OH, and the interrupts on the shield will hopefully stack some confusion. It would go very well with Incindiary powder I think but it feels like too much defensive to sacrifice to get it? Don’t know.

I would swap out Blood Injection and Speedy kits for it maybe. Does it make enough difference to be worth it?

I also feel I lack condi removal. I might take away rocket boots, get Incendiary Powder in replacement for it and use Elexir C for some removal? Only thing is that I loose control over my burns.

Thanks! This is the reason I posted, it was a long time since I played it. I will swap a few things out and then post the tweaked version.

Just one question for you though, what would the reason be with going for shield AND go 30 into Firearms for 33% burning duration? I will go 30 into Firearms most likely looking at the options for getting the burning going stronger, and drop the idea of getting some power in there but go full condi. But where would I get the bruning from if not from pistol OH?

Och and yeah I mainly want to use the bombs because of the confusion stacking that goes with my runes, might not be worth it though?

Thanks.

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Gamgee.8612:

The fact that an evescirate can hit 10-15K in a single hit makes it more understandable of the animation, does it not? If it was instant you could oneshot thieves, which would be very funny hehe, but no, we can’t have that.

While I agree that big hitters should be highly telegraphed (kill shot, eviscerate, earthshaker), there is no equality to this rule, it is only a warrior thing. Just look at backstab. Not that I have issues with thieves or their backstabs, just making a point.

Butbutbut. Thieves don’t have 25K health and 3k armor! I never have problem with killing thieves, their stealth just makes it take longer time.

First off: HAI.

Second: If you are not a WvW guy you have no power here!

Right. I have rolled a Warrior since Beta and I have had my Engi for 9 months I think, and right now Warrior is too broken. I don’t even have to use my heal button. SO, I decided to dust off my precious Engi, since it’s so much fun. I used to bring it to WvW a few months back but eventually I took a few short-term breaks and kitten and after that I was with my warrior. I have a pretty clear picture of how I want to roll but just wanted to drop my theorycrafted build right here to get some feedback and tips, there might be a few traits that is like a “must-have” nowadays.

So I basically just had a rabid set with perplexity runes laying around on my Engi so I just thought I’d use it as a base. Things I want feedback on might be stuff like if I’d be better off with vitality instead of healing power and whatnot, and why I should use sigil of battle instead of Energy, or Elexir S would be so much better than Elexir C.

Criticise!!!(FROM WVW PERSPECTIVE.)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcEQJAqel0p6ZH5y3F1LJxoCdOkC7bYQP0bexroCYG-jECBodgINAk0A0Hg5QFRjtsuIasadER1eFER1SBso0I-w

EDIT1: I won’t change anything just because you say it or it’s the popular thing to say, I’m confident in my playstyle so you will have to put some fine arguments for it. And also this is ofcourse just MK1, there will be MK2 and eventually MK 134, just like any class/build. And this would be for roaming and killing strictly, I don’t intend to use it in support purposes!

EDIT2: Build posted as it was updated.

What, what. What?

Me and two JDGE buddies did some zerg diving today on Deso border. We charged into bay and a 40-man zerg with several guilds inside and they basically kited us(them, I diead early on:<) around for 10 minutes, was hilarious so I had to take a screenie.

Uncensored!

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

It’s nice to see some JDGE back around as I kinda heard you stopped playing the week after we had that GvG. I always admired what you could do with smaller groups when you were back on Deso – back when I was a EB pug.

@Gamgee Haha, we saw that Warrior with the Afro on Ganadara BL with one other guy Trebbing Hills, while we were fighting a big group of BLAK + randoms around the gate.

Most core members went to FF, people are coming back more and more now though it seems. We are spread a bit, half JDGE is on Gunnar’s Hold and the rest on Gandara atm. (The whole being like 12 people)

It must have been a year since we were on Deso soon?

Dat afro is whack ;D

When this subforum dissapears, everybody move here: http://www.gw2wvw.net/forum/5

Weli was so nice to start another thread for us there even for this match-up. The tier 1 NA servers have allready written a few pages on their thread!

Happy match-up! Thanks to the duels with the ele that lasted forever, and the warrior I killed 3 times! Fun times!

Also: Surprise buttsecks from CoN! We were 2 people!!! Cmon!!

The secret to destroy with a warrior is 2 things:

Do not let the enemy breathe. Pressure, use all your stuns in the best possible way, this means that you have figured out how the traits and damage work with your weapon. What’s the best chain? Which is my opener?

Do NOT be predictable. This also means don’t use your earthshaker/whatever when the thief you are fighting are standing in his blinding red circle, or when you have 12 stacks of confusion on you. Keep looking out for the guardian’s boons. Don’t kill yourself due to retaliation. Don’t use stuns etc when there’s stability.

Most builds that are supposed to counter warriors do so in 90% of the cases. It basically builds up around that the warrior usually is very predictable. Don’t be, and you shall win. If you want to land an evescirate I’d suggest using Fear Me first, just be quick on the F1 button so you don’t let them come too far.

The fact that an evescirate can hit 10-15K in a single hit makes it more understandable of the animation, does it not? If it was instant you could oneshot thieves, which would be very funny hehe, but no, we can’t have that.

DylanLucas.6058:

They should nerf warrior more. Just chased a warrior for like 10 minutes around with 5 people and he stayed alive, outran us only by using his skills, its kitteng ridiculous

I agree. If they can nerf the length of thieves stealth aswell, it’s the same problem there really. It just takes too long time to kill! Does NOT mean it’s OP!

Khallis.5708:

Gamgee.8612:

I wouldn’t roll a Warrior today. People will say that you are OP as an excuse for literally anything.

truth hurts doesn’kitten warriors are OP there is really no denying it. only people who don’t think warriors are OP are stupid warriors who think their “superior skill” is whats winning them fights

I think you missed the point here. I have rolled Warrior since Beta, almost exclusively. I’ve been through its ups and downs. I agree that in some aspects the warrior is OP atm, but it was the part in my post that said “For literally anything” that was the point. I have heard someone complain warriors are OP because of their cool weapon animations. God, that was lame. Osicat (The famous mesmer(sigh)) is in my guild, and I remember he complained about warriors and guardians being OP because when he fought 3 warriors with banners, it took too long for him to stomp them before they could res eachother. Ofcourse he killed them in the end, it just took too long time, so they are OP. Logic, yes?

I can’t take people I don’t know seriously in this matter. Too many times I have fought Thieves that are squishy as kitten and hits like trucks, but because they are squishy I can kill them. They later complain that they just got killed because Warrior is OP. They got killed because of their build. It doesn’t work to kill Warriors. I have met tons of players from each class that have the right set of mind to compete with warriors, even Rangers. You need to build to beat a warrior. People that doesn’t know how to defeat a warrior are the people that complains it is OP. Period. The high level skillcap is not OP, the avarege warrior can probably kill the avarege anything though. Still, a slight damage nerf would even things out a bit more.

This post is strictly in the eyes of a hardcore WvWer, not PvP or PvE. Also, this post was not created to boast or brag in any way. Thanks.

Renny.6571:

We didn’t even give Guru a chance!

Shut up Meg.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Cheers for the fun tonight East from SM. Sorry AG next time pick a better time to walk out your Golems when I’m not around Skirmish.. Scouting.

http://imgur.com/mKEy8Nl
http://i.imgur.com/6Sg2exR.jpg

I had a hunch you were the “Neverending thief fight”! Tyty.

Sorry for double but huge shout out to the people on EB right now! Very fun fights!

Big HAIZ from JDGE!

I wouldn’t roll a Warrior today. People will say that you are OP as an excuse for literally anything.

MistMirage.4706:

Try sPVP.
Oh, you do not like it when everyone is equal and you don’t have enough skill. You like to gank level upped newbes and singles in raid builds… A thief probably?

That was totally uncalled for. What do you wish to accomplish with this post? Getting less people to do sPvp? You’re doing it right! This is basically why I don’t play sPvP: It’s way too staked out and there’s no room for having fun. Do I play this game to have fun? YES! Do I play it to be called “Noob” every time I enter sPvP because apparently I don’t use the right build? NO!

Guys why all the hate? This is the best match-up I’ve had in a LONG time. Both AG(as always) and Deso(more surprisingly) have provided good smallscale fighting and 1v1’s.

Cheers EVERYBODY.

Shadowfall.6543:

DontJudgeMe.3958:

I’m tired of people coming to the warrior section and complain about us being OP in whatever. It’s annoying to find all these posts scattered throughout the warrior section.

So if you have a complain, please fill them in here, in the complaint box.

Because if we gather all the complains into one place… Us warriors can have a good laugh together in this huge topic about your misfortunes.

Regards,

-Typical Warrior

I’ll take the bait. (I play an elementalist main so you understand where these come from)

• Healing signet 400 HP/Sec, Signet of restoration 200 HP per case (with after cast, most spells can’t even be cast 1 per second).
• All of your 20% reduction skills come with a bonus (i.e. like 20% reduction on rifle/harpoon with pierce while rangers require a master trait that only gives pierce).
• on the topic of crackshot, Eles 20% reduction to water magic cool down was moved to master because of balance (Devs think skill reductions are master level), Crackshot is adept…
• mobility on Greatsword, 4 words: “Ride the lightning nerf” (Eles were nerfed into the ground because of our ability to disengage, we’ll see what happens with warrior mobility).
• over 1000 additional “Free attribute points” (8000 HP = 800 vitality and armor 300 armor = 300 toughness) while maintaining comparable (or better) DPS, better control, and great mobility.

should I continue?

First off, you have to be joking me. An ele complaining over healing? Trololol. The fact that I got my butt handed to me by an Ele that I couldn’t get down below 90% hp while he’s critting 6.5ks says otherwise. Eles are not OP, despite this fact I’d like a buff on Eles, cuz I’ve only met 2 Eles with this build, and it’s basically the only build that can beat me. I want every class to have a wide variation of builds.

Secondly, over 1000 free attributes? What do you mean by this? Every class wears armor?

And FYI, the rifle is utterly kitten in WvW. And iirc Eles have not only one healing skill. You have water attunement, healing dodge and stuff like that no? If you are using healing signet on a warrior you have to give up your ONLY healing utility. Warriors adrenal health heals for 120 per 3 secs(?) with full adrenaline bar, and that’s full only for a few seconds each time.

This perspective is from WvW.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Gamgee.8612:

Ooh yeah that’s when I woke up and couldn’t sleep then! Yes we got tired! Clock was like 4 in the morning… That was fun though, it was quite even though we kept dieing.

Sorry I met an AG thief earlier the same day that ganked me and then laughed 5 times and jumped on my corpse. I partied him and said wait there(got angry), and he said he’d “Whoop my kitten all day”. I got there and killed him, let him res and killed him again. He was good though, so I told him and we had a chat. Just some context

Yes thanks anyway people for good fights, always appreciated!! Don’t hesitate to jump on lonely people, might turn into a greeeat fight!

Idk about the siege on bodies, I THINK that JDGE started that when we met FSP and started “ramming”(putting ram buildsite on the corpse) a guild called [Lion] that we thought were pricks. It got pretty widely known and we got donated like 500 ram bps, alot of them from AG and FSP aswell haha. After that it has grown I think.

No problem, I get ganked all the time as if it’s in my job description, yet most don’t jump on me or as of late I seem to teleport everywhere, not because I’m a thief – it’s cause I keep getting these lag spikes.
I don’t think you are the same Warrior as the other two I met earlier this evening, I hope they had fun taking me on with a few pugs and then 2v1.

I think we have 3 JDGE warriors in total on Gandara. (Rest is on Gunnar’s Hold) 2 of them are hardly active but there’s a chance ofc that one of them logged on for a roam.

Won’t be on tomorrow so Merry Christmas everyone!!

DontJudgeMe.3958:

‘Warrior is easy’ ‘X is a hard to learn class’… These are invalid arguments.
As a Warrior I have seen dozens of Warriors who make me feel ashamed of them playing this class of mine. If you look at other classes, they got so many options compared to the warrior that saying that Warrior is an easy class to play is just invalid.
If you get beat up by a person who just rolled a warrior and is playing it in his first week, it’s not because Warrior is easy… It’s because you’re bad.
If something is easy to L2P, it is also easy to predict. An experienced player will know how to react to a warrior. And wtf is easy to learn anyway? All classes have the same amount of available buttons. If you’re telling me that you still can’t memorize what your class can do after a week, then I’m just going to pull out my GS stand still, press my number 2 and wait till you walk in it… Because apparently, you will.

Look at the bolded and consider:

Fewer variations – easier/doesn’t take as long to learn.

kittenton of variations – harder/takes longer to learn.

Still takes time to master the Warrior though, just as any class. To not be predictable is a good step to being awesome, and something vital playing a Warrior very good. Many people in WvW are kitten, it’s nothing new.

And FYI, all classes don’t have just as many buttons. Ele has 4×5+5 skills, 25 different buttons to use, engi has their kits and can use up to 37 skills if they equip 3 of them, Mesmer would have 18, thieves and warriors 17, guardians 18, rangers have their pet aswell, necro has lich form and death shroud. Reserved for miscalculations.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Gamgee.8612:

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Nice fights on Gandara BL late tonight, special thanks to that JDGE warrior who seemed to like me.
Anyway it seems our numbers have dropped drastically as we’re usually pretty strong during the weekend, but despite some of the zerg-iness there’s been some great fights so far.
No matter if we lose this week, let’s bring some festive cheer into wvw.

Haha I’m guessing that warrior was me. Good fights, funfun. I’m hoping you won’t /laugh on corpses anymore!!

I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn’t get back to sleep, so I jumped on Gw2 and roamed a little, tried to cap Bay with 3 ppl and one cata and reinforced walls. Twice the Deso blob came at us, but in between there was like 5 decent players and a very good Engi to fight, much fun! Eventually they killed us though. Still fun!

I do not /laugh on Corpses, I saw some bad Sportsmanship from our guys last night though; like dropping Siege on Bodies, apologies for that.

I was that S/P thief from EXG who was hanging around bay and Garrison, you guys eventually gave up respawning and running back! I also met an Ele from a Guild I can’t remember, whom I had a fight with that felt like it lasted for 10 mins.
I’ve changed my build since I started playing again and I’ve been lag spiking now and again, so sorry if I’m not that much of a challenge.

Ooh yeah that’s when I woke up and couldn’t sleep then! Yes we got tired! Clock was like 4 in the morning… That was fun though, it was quite even though we kept dieing.

Sorry I met an AG thief earlier the same day that ganked me and then laughed 5 times and jumped on my corpse. I partied him and said wait there(got angry), and he said he’d “Whoop my kitten all day”. I got there and killed him, let him res and killed him again. He was good though, so I told him and we had a chat. Just some context

Yes thanks anyway people for good fights, always appreciated!! Don’t hesitate to jump on lonely people, might turn into a greeeat fight!

Idk about the siege on bodies, I THINK that JDGE started that when we met FSP and started “ramming”(putting ram buildsite on the corpse) a guild called [Lion] that we thought were pricks. It got pretty widely known and we got donated like 500 ram bps, alot of them from AG and FSP aswell haha. After that it has grown I think.