Guild Wars 2

Anet has got there act together ;-)

Have faith, btw I really enjoy coming to DR BL. Any action to be had tonight?

Weeks away and already plotting a tag team ;-) … well, always gotta try something once, right? Will be keeping an eye on you two boys, play nicely. And yes, we (Kaineng) still have much to learn. But time to gel. We have many great guilds and players working and training together nightly from t1 to t8 servers. You’ll even see us in PvE practicing sprints and skill timing. That’s just part of the fun though, learning, developing new strats, practicing with those you don’t know. It’s really nice to have so many people working together, and knowing that some day that first loss will come. Maybe next week, maybe the week after, but that just fires us to train harder.

But we get hungry for battle again during these lull’s.

We may be over rated, we may be underrated, but one thing I can tell you, is t5 is not our tier. Not even remotely close. Many eyes were watching us at reset to see if we were for real. Every tier the server below tells us how we will not make it up. But I think you guys get it and have been through it. The continual ‘when will we will hit the wall’. My assumption will be in t3. But I would expect (given current millennium), that next week should give us some much needed live action for all night, and we will have our hands full of revenge for Dragonbrand. If it is as stands, there’s so many people who are itching to battle them. You guys were fun to play against, under the outmanned situation on darkhaven. Some of the keep fights were hours long, and you guys toss siege like it’s going outta style, even if we destroyed it, you’d toss another right in the same spot. It was a slow death those nights. But nonetheless, enjoyable battles.

Until then, we’ll be watching you 3 specifically, as much as you are watching us, if you tag team and crush us, we’ll just have to deal with it and take what lessons learned to be discussed and implemented into our training. Won’t stop us from entering the hunt and punching you back in the kisser, at least a few times … it’s evidently easy for servers like FA and Mag’s, CD, and DB to tag team a server down. Whether you want to play that way to prove some point or not is your own server’s populous’ prerogative. I’ll tell you flat out we’re not going to play that game. We just want good hard battles in wvw, much like yourselves, and know we can expect it here. Reading in some of your threads, I thought Mag’s and FA play much the same … and look for battle. Maybe that’s just a one off comment. Good luck in your coming battles.

~X [RE], Kaineng

Edit: i think I may have misread your comment above about voting Kaineng. My apologies if I did. I respect FA, Mag’s and DB. Have had too many fun battles not to.

So … can we safely call this wall trebbed? Scores now 2-1

Going to shout out to [TBE] on Ebay … you guys were absolutely fun to battle against on reset night but I haven’t seen any organized since

I see the odd tag, but not the organized group I saw that night. I look for you guys nightly, running in your squad. We had some good battles with fairly even match ups (granted we may have been a little disorganized calling only a handful), but there’s something to be said about a good battle. Respect ;-) You guys work well together.

~X [RE], Kaineng

Is this the same TL from HoD at launch? didn’t realize you guys came over … look forward to running with you guys (when in wvw anyways).

Welcome, from Rethesis… the people on the server are great, in all aspects of the game.

~X [RE]

I like both these servers. I’ll be watching these guys closely, I can’t say one way or the other who I think will win. They each have primes which slightly offset. What I do expect is both servers will be putting in some extra hours and given the week mag’s has at hand… it should be close, I think.

Both of your servers are very qualified, and full of strong members I respect. It will be a good battle to watch.

~X

Wow… okay caught up. So not worth reading all that though. Not one for animosity or self inflation by knocking another. Whatever, trolls will be trolls, and some I guess need to find a way to have a hug for themselves.

OF all those posts…. I have about 4 things maybe 5 to say.

1. To the other tiers who are watching the thread. I’m sorry … hope the few points being discussed were of some interest, not the personal troll battles between many people here. Thanks for the compliments, or at least contributions.

2. Chaster, you always make me smile. Good words, at opportune time. /highfive

3. The guys of old on kain, and DR … seems too much has changed, just enjoy the rivalry we have at hand, for what it’s worth.

4. To the original guy who responded, my sincere apologies I was carried away in the game yesterday, too busy to pop back in here. I was in DB BL, and yes, RE was primarily there, as was SoS (we also went to Ebay after securing the waypoints), and WM in Eternal.

There have been plenty of good battles, whether you choose to step into the battlefield or not, it’s your choice. Enjoy the game. I have seen that both DR and EB, only come to play in a specific slim window mid-late day, with the exception of a few die hard groups flipping camps. In any event, there are plenty of good battles to enjoy. Thanks for the time and effort you put on for your server.

If it’s quiet, then let’s just practice, I mean we already rented the field, no sense in leaving it empty? Besides there’s much we can always improve upon.

~X

Okay, Day 2 … back on topic, read my posts. DR, on your DR BL … thanks for the continuous battles.

I did forget 1 shout out to you guys, mind is still foggy only on 2nd cup of coffee. The northern most camp, I thinks its Godsword this week (name always changes) … your late night siege stand was awesome. A lot of fun, and hope you guys enjoyed it. Sometimes it’s things like that which I find can be absolutely fun. Sieging up a camp and battling it out once in a while. Great work there. ;-)

Catch ya on the battlefield all,
~X

Actually back on topic, one more shout out to a good battle I recall… guild TBE… brief battles between camps (I recall I made 1 wrong turn at astral, only to run smack into the middle of you guys alone, then res’d to go back up thinking the backroad would give me some time to do inventory… and again, turned right into the pack), unexpected coordination, good job guys – the fights actually took place down south to EH keep door step. I wanted to make sure to give props to you guys, I had some fun with the battles with you. Credit where credit is due ;-)

Cactus.2710:

I’m in no way trying to blame you for the numbers you are able to field. That’s ANet’s problem to fix. But the only way you “have grown so much already” is in numbers, pure and simple. For you to expect respect for anything more than that brings tears of mirth to my eyes. In all other aspects of WvW play you are a lesser server than when we faced you all those weeks. Your tactics are worse and your efforts are less. You are also now totally dependent upon one guild … a guild whose players (at least as far as I could tell last night) don’t even run with any of your other commanders even though [WM] has tons to spare. How sad is that?

Where were you fighting? I’m happy to clear the misconceptions or assumptions you make regarding commander assignments and such. Also may help to understand your active time of play? Happy to help clarify before you and other just talk without fact basis.

RE were in Kaineng in t8, it was here or DB my recommendation. I put my name in here, because DB are already queued and doing well. Besides I owe them a battle. To clear the air, the week before we transferred, RE had scouts out to EVERY server that we considered going to … scouting kinda works out that way, no? We split, scouted, voted and decision was Kaineng. Been here since Christmas when fighting Ferg’s in t8 … some of us we’re still on ferg’s and we got a few RE v RE battles

Anyways back on topic, DR & EB… I have enjoyed quite a few battles so far. I’m happy to see many battles ongoing throughout the night.

DR BL …. I’d like to send a special shout out to a pair of thieves on EB (asuran & human). You guys are great, god your stealth is absolutely frustrating, but you are both great players. You were taking down yak’s and I got a few tussles with ya. Really enjoyed them, the asuran got me more than once, but not much I can do to the stealth mechanic … but you guys were fun. Hope you see this.

PRO … where the hell did you go? I was hoping to battle some of you last night. I hear you moved to DB =)

ayc.7108:

Watching Kaineng move up the ladder is fun, it’s like Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!, where Kaineng is Little Mac and working up the ladder by continually knocking out opponents. While Ehmry Bay fought in T4 for some time, they are the smallest of the 3 – Maguuma, Yak’s Bend and Ehmry Bay. (Dragonbrand doesn’t count, recent population changes have made them more closely rated for T3)

Considering Ebay’s recent loss of guilds these past 2 weeks, chances look high that Kain’s wvw population may be greater than Ebay’s – but that doesn’t necessarily mean Ebay will be going down without a fight.

I predict Ebay and Kain will be tussling around for about 2 weeks, and if Kain does indeed move up the ladder, Kain better be prepare themselves for Mags and Yaks; because those two are the true veterans of T4 and don’t look down on newcomers lightly having lots of experience fighting with an oceanic disadvantage. T4 will be a test to see if your NA primetime crew is worth their salt.

HOWEVER, if Kain does manage to climb past T4 into T3, T3 is where your true test will be – pitted against DB and CD that possess much higher oceanic coverage than all the servers below it – which also means a 3-way mirror fight between servers that have almost the same exact coverage distribution. I’m watching with great interest. It’s gonna be like Pacquio vs Mayweather – and I’m excited to see how this all unfolds.

But let’s see where T5 goes first and if the hype is deserved of the progress. T-minus 1 hour before showtime!

This ^^^ and everyone included all are excited. I think it is going to be a very, very, tough ride, with plenty of good strong, long fought battles as we expect.

Reset … and T5, is the next step on this week’s field. Judging from the point tally’s and knowing the player’s server’s at hand… it will be a strong battle. The points between Tiers grows large, but we have our goals. I look forward to Ehmry & DR (likely) again. And thank you for sharing PRO still remains. I was hoping they were still there, at least to enjoy one more battle against many of their solid players again. We can’t look to t4, or t3… we won’t look to anything outside of the direct match at hand and work hard. Hold true to our goal, nothing is ever handed out on a silver platter. Fight for every step, and battle hard.

There’s alot of learning, improving, adjusting and processing that has to go on while we battle. This weekend, starting in 1 hour will be a long 48 solid hours of absolute fun.

See ya on the battlefields EB & (DR, I believe – man it’s close). And thank you NSP & AR, for some of the battles we’ve had in even manners. Even some of the zerg v zerg, and folks I’ve been able to mention. You guys are strong players, best of luck in the coming week.

Well with that note, I have less reason to create the Ele I was on the fence of making as the 5th WvW profession.

I actually thought that was the intended design of the profession. Similar to how Warrior should be able to attain the best DPS in melee range.

HB isn’t all to useful, if your speccing glass cannon, your opening yourself to drop like a bag a potatoes. Plus it is stationary. I don’t know many that will stand in front of a ballista and let it hit them, also should be able to assume people run with conditional and skill to break free.

In any event, I thought it seems fine atm, set to AoE 5 limit. Even seems small already. But if the nerf bat strikes again, I’m certain there are reasons and data we are not entitled too.

If it’s just to get more 1:1 style game play, that would be unfortunate. In a game, that doesn’t offer … a duel system.

EDIT: Are we moving over to coordinated spike builds again where every month a new spike build comes out to get the skill nerf bat swinging again, is that the intention? Is it to fight zerg style game play completely? Whats the major culprit? or is just a thought atm.

Darxio.5672:

Kaineng brings great shame and dishonor to me in its current state. Especially the ‘fight clubs’. Anyone who can’t see them as a PR stunt to put their spawncamping in a positive light deserves to be swindled.

Shameful display, Kaineng. Shameful display. Especially you, Chaster.

Arrogance speaks. Humility listens.

Do your research first before speaking about FC again please – look at each of our matchups Thursday/Friday postings. It’s been ongoing since release, and ‘actually is’ an enjoyable experience for many.

I’m sure spawn camping has been around since release as well.

Your saying the orange is bad because you got sick from an apple. When the orange has been good since they were discovered. And EVERY SERVER has said positive things about this event.

It’s two separate entities, and you make 0 sense. People will still knock kain for 1000 + 1 reasons. Don’t worry about that. FC … is not one of them, and has been respectable since launch. Will carry on weekly, and will still be a fun event for any who want to participate in. It’s optional.

kornfanxx.3751:

Yes, I believe the fight club reformed afterwords though, Dunno, I didn’t care. RE was out of hand.

Kornfanxx, thanks for coming to the FC at some point, even if only a few minutes. Little does not tolerate that kinda behavior from anyone in our Guild, and there a numerous officers who also enforce the rules, regardless of server.

We will all stand by and let one of our members get staked if they are out of line as well. Last week there was 2 server players, who tried to crash (non RE, nor Oni, nor Kain, nor Ai, nor DE… pretty sure they were up scaled newer players too who completely missed reading the chat log), and 20 of us said let them get staked. They chose not to listen, we explained, and then res’d them… only to see them try again, and guess what … Gate of Madness and HoD staked em again while we watched. Eventually they learned, and understood. If any from the server act that way, we will /s chat or whisper it to the FC participants to let the opponents enforce accordingly. If it was absolutely uncalled and classless as you say (I find this hard to believe, given the dozens of posts regarding the positivity around the event, and you can check every week, it’s much of the same respect for each other gained).

If someone was out of line, that was from Rethesis, please feel free to send / tell any of us. If you were on the vent, or grouped with some of our members, it’s not an issue to follow as needed.

I do find it hard to believe, pardon but precedence is against you (over 14 weeks ongoing and it’s been absolutely respectable), but of course would love the inputs and screens to follow up accordingly. It’s not tolerated, this much is clearly understood by our guild.

Every server has an understanding of our guild. And most servers at some week, have participated in our event and also know of the level we play. And have carried on with dueling after we left match ups. Fight Club is a good event, and provides a positive atmosphere for people. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s completely optional. A lot of people like to go and watch too, to try and learn some tricks.

If this is just a random shot at RE, carry on, we don’t care about that kinda crap. If it’s valid, pm me or add a screen, and I can figure out who the individual is and follow up.

Best of luck in your coming match up,

~X

As I mentioned, there’s a number of guilds here, we only enjoy wvw battles, and look forward to playing with and against each server. We all wvw, it’s what we enjoy. And to correct a post above, it was about 6 guilds who moved that week that I am aware of, likely more but I wouldn’t know all of them. Around that anyway. But that’s not to say there is only 6 guilds here, there dozens.

Happy to battle alongside in wvw, because that’s what we all enjoy to do. Not to say it’s all we do (there’s a lot who do everything *edit… it’s a good server to be on), it’s just what our guild’s focus is over other things.

And I’ve had the opportunity to play with and run with many other guilds here in wvw, it’s enjoyable.

Mada.5319:

Hexin.5603:

We have many players from top 75 guilds from GvG in GW1 already. It’s nostalgia and I enjoy the environment. We also have multiple guilds from each of the top 4 tiers.

The vast majority of top GvGers from GW1 were in SBI or FA. The vast majority of them have also quit gw2. All that’s left is WM.

Actually, are any of the WM members that got gold in gw1 still playing gw2???

Yes there are, and there’s also other guilds, while possibly not say Te, or animal’s guild (apologies I forgot the tag) , I’ve come across a few on Kain, and keeping one in the back pocket ;-)

Anet has come out with a few of the major items that needed to be looked at, and WvW gets focus now, as well as what lies ahead.

Nutz, FC and duels occur in tiers above this and have for a long time. That is all, my facts are straight, I saw PAXA went earlier, and came back later … as I said. The tiers above don’t give a kitten about score, they do… but in the end, they care about who they play with and against … it’s competitive, and very much … not this. You fit here I guess, I do not, that much is apparent. I miss servers like Mag’s who may flame, but come armed with purpose. As everything is not black and white. In the end it gets discussed and can be great for all to learn from. I guess in a small way this can be too. We play games the way we like, and yes … trolling, and baiting and trolling, I guess is some form of fun? I don’t know, and not accustomed to it, maybe I’m too old to follow that but to each is his own.

You get a level of respect with each other which I fully thought you guys were going to get today. Every week it happens when you meet and compete in this manner, air is cleared, and it’s very much enjoyable. Hell I miss SoR, and that’s a ways back. They were great too. And of all the guilds today …. why did it have to be PAXA who comes a trumping for laughs? I mean, anyone but PAXA given the past few days.

Enjoy your future guys, I know we were not a popular group and apologies to Rob on not keeping my cool

Best of luck to you guys (NSP and AR), in the coming weeks match ups.

You gotta be kidding. What’s with the manic behavior? One moment they roam and trounce solo’s or couple, no biggie, every server does. (For the record though, every upscaled player I see who is just running to the JP, I let go when I roam). Next I find a roaming PAXA with a DVI, both skilled and equally battle it out, good players, then this?

‘haha i get kicks out of crashing a party, yay us?’ … I’ve been trying to understand you guys for a bit now, and I just don’t understand how its at all any fun to play in that manner?

You don’t spawn camp, great … that doesn’t define a loser in this game. Sure it’s a loser trait, but so is exactly what you’re doing. Do you server a favor and stay classy. Go to FC, info is written up, and go get those guys you called out, and called you out.

I know I don’t have the entire story here jscull, but I’ve been trying to understand all this instances that are building up in all perspectives and it just doesn’t make your guild look in anyway respectable. I know it’s not the case, but really tough to see it any other way.

You understand right, the same way Kaineng as a whole has been getting trolled?

Forget TGIF, Thank god it’s Thursday.

1 day away, thank god. And we have more than just zergs. We have camp squads as well as defenders, and scouts.

Because you run into a zerg, or sometimes mutliple ‘zergs’ which are just parties combining at location, is not our issue.

Godfather.8217:

I can agree with everyone. These guys are soo good at what they do. So organized they seem almost like robots in action. Especialy this guy Jang, ever fought his group lead by his toon. hold on let me post how they fight, now where is that training video of his.

http://youtu.be/CyBITqVhR9I

Please transfer to AR if you feel proud to troll. Examples? Look at their thread. That’s how they get kicks out from life. Bait and troll, bait and troll. Not wvw. They have some skilled players, but many who love to bait and troll. Kinda sad that T6 outclasses those individuals. I expected a higher level of discipline as tiers progress.

Back on topic, Kaineng is a strong WvW focused server. WvW, It’s the focus of Anet this year. They plan to implement and improve it. If you are interested in WvW, Kaineng is definitely a place for you. I learn something new every day from new guilds, old guilds, random players. If you are interested in playing wvw regardless of time of day, there is always wvw ongoing, we would welcome you. We have many players from top 75 guilds from GvG in GW1 already. It’s nostalgia and I enjoy the environment. We also have multiple guilds from each of the top 4 tiers.

To those who are already on the server, you have shown much respect to each other, and are doing a great job. I have fun playing with you, coordination, skill and helping each other.

The the guilds who are here, we have played many of these people in the past plenty of times. EB does not realize any of this, because they have not, and do not fight us united yet. You can account EB’s posting to concern. If you do not think so, look at the other threads where it’s written by themselves. The fight has not yet begun, and we will have an eye kept on it from every server. That I am sure of.

Whether NA, EU, Australia, or Asia Pacific, I’m calling on the guilds who held passion to battle and love to calculate team builds. This is what we like to do, this is what made our GW1 crews compete, and this is why we WvW and sPvP. Join us if you wish, it would be great to see a couple old competitors again, and see this through.

Troll, hate, laugh, whatever you want. That level of class is up to a person. It matters not. We don’t care. Simple. We like to play, hunt, battle and work as one.

~ X

PS. (would love to get in contact with EW & QQ if you are still here)

Chickenshoes.6250:

If some Kaineng guilds think it’s about being outstanding and playing WvW the way it’s meant to be played, they’ll consider moving to smaller servers.

Or not, they were there first after all, it’s not their fault all these guilds came over making Kaineng lame, right?

After all it’s about server loyalty which is why – oh wait

Success. You are confusing. I see many posts knocking servers transfers, and the majority of the ‘bulk’ who moved did so in only 1 transfer, but we’re the bad guys, and now you want us to do it again? to another small server? and carry on to be continually trolled? Which is it man? I can only take so much of your servers love.

On topic, what the hell? Rob is that truth? or just more fuel for the fire? Don’t know what to say about that. 1 day away till kain will be out from your guys lives, but I hope nsp and ar have bright and enjoyable future battles that you deserve. Trying to be positive here.

To ET, and those forums… the ones with … 4 posts in it… please do not troll our server to pull people to ET. We have work to do.

I speak to some of the ‘main’ guilds daily and nightly… due to our guilds cross time zone. There is one objective, and ET is not in sight. You may have guilds ‘elsewhere’ and being confused. We are Kaineng (name even sounds better)… and we are here to fight you, and everyone else in battle.

~ Spike in 4, 3, 2, 1

Kidding, happy to have them.

I think he is new, and wants to be sure he levels a class that will fit.

Keep in mind, Anet nerfs and balances things as required. Outside of that, Haldunius has a good write up.

A lot of us have played Mag many times over and EB, but forget looking anywhere other than the present. This next match up is going to be tough, we all know this. It will be fun because of the challenges. We do not expect to win, we expect to fight. I’m certain this match up has some eyes on it. There’s many reason why it should. Keep up the good work this week DR, BP even though under, is still very close. Stay focused and have fun.

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Another fair fight with PAXA today.

Wow, that chat log is just awful. How did you happen to get yourself into that much trouble alone? I mean, I’ve seen both servers talk about kaineng server numberswin, doesn’t that translate when you are 1, and they are 10 or so?

I bet your very skilled, and 1:1 can do well (maybe take on some paxa at fight club if it occurs)?, but many groups run together in wvw, did they do something wrong there? Is there more to the story I’m missing?

@ the yak’s bend fellow, best of luck in your tier. We’re being ousted on all fronts. But will battle when/where we can to the best of our abilities.

edit: OSIF even beat my post with an offer

morrolan.9608:

transtemporal.2158:

Just on the level 80 thing, when you enter wvw you get scaled to 80 from whatever level you were. However, you will likely be no match for an actual level 80 with exotic gear. Get your guy up to 80, gear him out and come back into wvw. The difference will be night and day.

Funny thing is because of the way they do upscaling you’re better off being below 80 if you’re still in greens. Look to have your exotic set ready by the time you hit 80.

Sry… piggybacking these ideas …invest your pve money into crafting (armor class of character), and save your karma until 80. You’ll be able to gear yourself the minute you hit 80.

Warriors do not need any more swiftness. We have so many options it’s a little over the top already. Ya, when I go hammer, I am missing a couple ‘chase em down’ skills. But we have so many already. Hell SoR, BS elites both have it baked in, don’t want to use elites? temporarily pop in a utility banner. You only have 3.

So, in the worst case scenario, you can always equip swiftness (if your hammer/rifle or nothing/shield + longbow), sounds more like you don’t want to drop anything but run faster like a necro (who btw I can out right beat in a race if i wanted to). 33% versus 25% plus gap closers and sprints … I dont know what to say.

You have so many options… just a matter of you figuring them out. We don’t need more swiftness.

Okay, not going to be popular for my stance … but THANK YOU for posting this. this type of initial feedback and posting can help a developer. It gives a ‘new player’ perspective.

EDIT … I’m going to go a step further and say ‘guilds’ can benefit from this kinda perspective too, if they have people who are willing to train. This input helps defining some base training. Helping players ‘cross that bridge’

While everyone’s response reigns true, and yes… I felt much the same when I started WvW (beta)… after getting the hang of it, and playing with a guild, working together on objectives, I was addicted. Before that point, I was much the same where you were.

The best advice, even though it’s ‘general’ … is to find a large wvw guild and join them, you’ll ‘experience’ the difference. In fact, this thread alone has multiple servers on it.

If your open to the idea, you can post your server, and I’m sure one of the guilds might be able to help.

When you run together in an organized manner, you get to experience multiple things you cannot ‘feel’ alone. (yes, after your experienced, you can… ) but as a new player, you won’t ‘get it’ (not in a condescending way), there’s actually quite a bit to pick up on. Many people are willing to help.

Written words do very little to help you in your situation. But if the reigns of battle ring true in your ear, then you need to be willing to go out and actively find a wvw focused guild on your server, and (best idea) is to get on a voice communication with them. While not mandatory, the sheer volume of data you’ll be learning and data you’ll interpret over voice comm always helps.

Ballista can crit. Build one and go farm skale, fireflies anything 80 to test. Mechanism to crit is in (even if not meant to be), not just based on object. Also, not sure whether player crit chance has impact, or any attribute has impact. I don’t believe our stats translate to siege in that manner. Some things do, specific food for golems, that type of stuff, but I’m not sure if (or which, because it could be selective) any base stats impact siege. I don’t believe so.

Outside of Anvil’s #4, and #5 skills which unlock.

I kinda take a different ‘belief’ on the transfers. I think guilds will slowly* start balancing out. Alot of players don’t want to continually fund transfers for the purposes people do transfer. Once in a while, yes … people will, but not to the extent that transfers occur today.

It will slightly mitigate transfers, over the next 3 months… and ‘might’ impact lower server population. Mass planned moves of 400+ though… will not be happening as much.

Slight changes to processes make large impacts to game culture & economies. Have some faith.

From now until the 28th though, I would be expecting a spike in transfers. Current scouts, newer people whose passion is wvw but they look at a wvw map and run. And keep running. Endlessly looking for battle? There should be an uptick over the next 12 days.

I wish I could see costs though, would be great to see something to the tune of 500 gems upwards. I didn’t do the math but roughly 10g to move account to lowest server seems reasonable upwards of 25G for higher tiered. My suggestion would be higher (10G per tier up) than that, but given a forum, I’ll keep it low. 25G is nothing to scoff at for people who only play a few hours a night. I certainly do not power trade, and fall into a general player base who couldn’t make that every week.

Anet gave the reminder for a reason. Ensure you are where you want to be. There are going to be guys who will get ‘screwed’… I would claim these to be scouts out and about from popular servers, that get caught in the influx and cannot get back.

Also I find the EU / NA reasonable but sucks. It’s unfortunate we didn’t all play on a united front. It was a welcomed update for me.

Dovgan.8605:

@Hexin Well, actually, the golem was me too. I had a thing going with a guildie to see how far I could walk it under the current conditions. I got a lot farther than I thought I would. I build them on occasion when I’m bored, because a) they are cool and b) I have a lot of them in my bag so why not have fun with them.

That was awesome, my first thought when I saw it was ‘guys who has supply on them’ Gar has 0… still… can we get a golem up. Yup, wanted to see if there was at all a slight shot. Then I just watched, I knew what it kinda entailed. I get the I’m tired let’s go find something fun to do also. We were just above to leave the map too, and I mentioned hang on guys… give it 5 minutes, I think that was there way to finish the night in style. I get that Treb-way once in a while, downtime… see if I can get one up, and see how long it will last before a party comes to wipe it.

You did a great job on the yaks. Seriously gj there. Yes, I was continually bound, and you always* got the yak down in the nick of time. To the point we just expected the supplies to remain 0 on yaks and deal with supply elsewhere, and leave the garrison down. Battles were enjoyable enough as is. GJ

I was on my ugly norn war, who fell victim to you binding roots more than once.

Astus.3508:

In – but, acting one way and speaking in an other comes off as conniving.

^^ this sounds like your singling out someone, and I’m trying to understand who. The context seems to be in the form of one of the video posters, am I getting hotter?

I agree with the rest of your post, and yes… likewise in-game have also been subject to by many servers, and seen fellow server mates do the disrespect on here, and Darkhaven. Personally speaking, and I could even speak on behalf of many I play with (one of the large guilds), it’s not the case to the server as a whole.

Yes, there are some out there … and all we can do in game or in vent (if the guild is in vent, or someone gets out of hand), is call them out and take issue. It’s pathetic. Happens though, everywhere. 90% of the players however … do not play in this manner. I find it tends to be younger players who think t-bag and trolling is funny.
Reality is, it’s only in their make belief heads (it’s actually pretty sad and weak, and I’m a game dev). I know grown ups tend to hold a bit more integrity (and maturity level, not all but 99% I have experienced with). But that too is subject to my criticism and a generalization. Whenever it happens, regardless of guild, server or whatever, just call them out. It adds 0 value to the game and community.

Outside of that, keep the discussion rolling. 2 things on the table, still curious to know about

1. Why did AL back out from garrison last night?
2. Who (if I even get an answer) is the quote above referring to?

Doesn’t bolt hit everything in path to the target too? Like rifles? Any chance the sun and moon aligned at that precise moment, or was there space around you all (radial proximity between each thing hit).

All of a sudden I got a little bit more timid of siege, and very interested to see the outcome or findings =) until I can get on later. (at work atm, and shocked at the dmg)

Are you upscaled?

Edit: reason i ask is if a chicken lvl1 gets hit for 222k, and an 80 gets hit for between 5k-10k, entirely possible a lower level could get one shot. I’m certain there’s some factors of scaling that don’t translate too well, otherwise fights would be much closer than they are today when fighting a person scaled up.

All in all, very happy to see this move. Yes, I think it sucks for those EU/NA guesting restrictions. That would impact a portion of the community, but the overall move to have guesting in place is welcomed. Gem fees on world transfers too, that’s a big+ imho.

It’s 4 months post launch, obviously there were many technical challenges they never expected, which also could have impacted or caused some of the restrictions between data-centers. But even now, I’m happy to see this go live. Prep your servers from now till the 28th, as I’m certain there will be many moves.

We don’t all auto-attack. /digressed topic & assume I deserved it. Whatever, moving on.

Back on topic…. AR BL last night, just curious why didn’t you guys want to take garrison? There was plenty of periods where we were actually badly out numbered, even if you don’t think so. There was a time where there was long period where we only had a couple people in it while you were at inner, and the other 6 or so roaming around camps. I’m just curious why you backed out? I know it wasn’t a strategy or tactic, but still not sure why you gave us the opening to push back. Did you run out of supply or what was the cause there?

Pedra.4381:

Of course, those kind of numbers are quite probably why individually your guys don’t do very well. They’ve never had to do anything but auto-attack.

I don’t enjoy feeding this… but why would you troll. People of all skill level play the game. Some of our guys (by this I mean kaineng .. the same as you generalized in your statement) are extremely talented. Some are not, and working to improve their skill, but blanket statements honestly make you look bad. If your looking to 1v1, or smaller battles, sPvP. Alternatively you can go enjoy fight club. Lots of players like to do the same on a level playing field.

Personally I don’t chose to knock any server opponent, even when I was in your shoes, back facing DB. Sadly out-manned, to the ‘last stand’ nights where only 5-6 were in the BL defending the last keep we would own. Still, I can’t see the benefit to me going and making blanket statements when frustrated, or angered to generalize a server as a whole.

I am by no means good, but all servers have very talented and skilled players. Individually there are some guys who do great, but in WvW there are also a lot of teams, and zergs. It’s the mechanics of this part of the game.

Some people may be great solo artists, some people may be terrible, some may be great commanders, others may not. Every server has a variety. So far though, Anvil gets the troll award for forum flaming (reading all the posts from this week and last week, wow is a waste of time). At least our last week’s opponents lightened up end of week and enjoyed our company. Don’t take it the wrong way, there are many good posts in this thread, but as a whole, there are just as much bad, or degrading posts coming from your server.

People play the game how they want to. Simple. Of all the guilds on Kaineng, of course we will have varying skill levels and skill sets? Was there a posting somewhere I missed that said we were any different or super humans? Enjoy the game, remain respectful, have some class. Flame those that flame you or deserve it for acting without integrity in game. They will eventually dwindle and go. There’s a lot more who play with respect than don’t. Whether you believe it or not is your own issues.

Dovgan.8605:

While I enjoy flipping supply camps and killing yaks inbound to ARBL garrison, I gotta sleep sometime. 6 hours of sniping yaks and solo flipping camps. Good call the one time you sent 5 or so to stop me, you got one yak in, hooray Kaineng! Now if I could have just had one more person helping out, you’d have gotten zero.

P.S. you really don’t need 30-40 people to take a supply, I do it solo all the time, give it a try, it’s liberating.
P.P.S. I have run into one or two people on your server that have a little skill, but you all need to break out of the hive mind mentality or you WILL have problems up a tier or two.

You know what? I don’t want this guy lost in translation and the back and forth. Dovgan, you did a great job for AR yesterday. I’m from Kaineng, and know your the one who was snipping off yaks to ensure gar received 0 supply. I was going to post last night, but was too tired. Great job on ensuring the yak ‘always’ dropped before you you did. Was one thing we had discussed all night long. Thought I’d bump this… out of respect and give credit where due. Yes, we could have invested some more time or effort to ensure they got through, but we were all enjoying the back and forth out front and in garrison.

There was plenty of good battles , and I had a great time last night (hope everyone else did too). I know you guys never saw … but I tried a couple /bow /wave emotes when you brought out the golem. I knew it was kinda the cap off the night with some humour note.

Appreciate the battles on AR last night, first night on the map… was in NSP every other day.

~ Xgammon [RE]

Great idea, Theme for the week is set.

Schoolyard bully, continually beat on:

Outcome? who knows. Start fraps’ing and make your conclusion in a video end of week. Maybe that schoolyard bully keeps on picking on the poor kid till he goes crazy … maybe the poor kid wins, or maybe something else happens. Possibly nothing – end result is they keep fighting?

On topic, it’s going to be a fun battle. I think we all know this, I look forward to battling some of you again. Don’t let the attention and media get the better of ya, expect you all at your best. See you in a couple of days

~ Xgammon / Hexin / Omega Bomberman [RE]

How about consolidating this thread with others and adding in range and damage to the above listing habib? Having a moderator go and clear out some of the other siege postings, like placement & wvw details, siege weapons and aoe limits, and stickying or wiki? Game has been out for 4 months now and it may help new users to wvw find siege data.

Kinda like the wiki http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Siege_weapon, but with dmg to armor level # (pick an average number).

I’m certainly not the guy to hit 50 (can’t find 50 silly enough to group under my AC/Cata). I only ever see about 5 dmg text at one time, but then again I am just terrible targeting.

In above example… solo efforts are working with the zerg. Communication, and timing is important.

Random player enter map and do his own thing, is just that. Alone, not sure what or how it is helping. May help, but wouldn’t know the info. Helps more for people not in voice communications or map chats, if none of the above, to help commanders. All commanders. Make sense? You all post points that are right.

I’m going to chime in now that some of the dust settles. You all bring up points that are required.

First (no win):
1 zerg = does not win everything always
1 player/pug or new person = does not win everything always

It’s all of the above. Cohesion and communication.

Example. 1 person killing dolyak’s and choking supply alone, while his mates are finishing up with objective, a squad/guild on defense building up keep (and upgrades), and other guerrila taking camps, and other solos treb-life is laying pressure to wall is all needed. Confused?

If you put all your eggs into 1 basket, you break your only shot at winning.

It takes all of the above, with comunication. I think we all know and agree.

T8 lover from kaineng, I personally witness the same difference 1 man makes when solo camp FAST. Not pew pew slow kill, AI respawns. I mean 15 seconds all dead captured. Or taking the island and enemy not see his seige despawn. but no supply in keep. All helps.

Hazal, absolutely right. First hand I witness 1 man ‘you’ killing every dolyak coming to SM before, while draining inner supply through repairs. Good point to be shared with everyone.

Little, yes, rally on zerg commander is needed to have good zerg versus zerg, and fast takeover. But also is using the ‘zerg’ skills strategically. Not just lay rams go hit door, works sometimes. Lay seige, cover people with projectile shields while building. Press under constant fire, needs protection to live or zerg = dead. Fight for every step. You remember dragonbrand? Lay arrow carts every 10 feet (they use little too much recklessly). Pug = not going to give you this. Player who says, I will sheild’ you can call on. Otherwise, you don’t know what your guys going to do. Yes, numbers win many battles, but we want to take Garrison? Look at NSP BL, when they held it for very long. NSP turtle seiged, zerg + golems die. Speed, bomb, protection, DPS… all needs right strategy and cohesion. Random player is not going to give cohesion yet, server still growing and we want to help them grow strong. He will give some minimal dps or lots and die fast … and res and go where ever he wants. Core things you need can’t be from random players. I agree good idea for this type of player to go to commander for extra manpower and to train the map (lots of karma), but commander will need tools to execute on his job.

Ai (apathy inc, delarme, kasha) … you guys run a very good guerrilla squad. This is what many more will be seeing in coming tiers. FA runs good 8-10 man teams, not 40. 1 40 man zerg take 1 objective. Four 10 man squads take 4. Math is there.

Map chat, what your objective is, and when complete = everyone. Map chat, what you see when you scout. Communication is pivotal, to help people understand best movements.

If you can help commander, do so. Or they will not command. There are many good guilds who fight for kaineng. You may not agree with various people or guilds… but we all fight. 1 person help another, each person joining forces grow us stronger.

Little, I will help you. You are great at defense. I have learned much from you over the months.

Jang, Ssous… one more thing needs to be added. WvW = very fun, and very costly. Everyone, every guild, help contribute where you can. Seige is free, but upgrades cost money. It will matter more up next 2 tiers. Help your server, I am.

~Xgammon / Hexin / Omega Bomberman [RE]

I’m looking forward to battling against mag’s. FA, and DB again. If things work out, maybe only a couple weeks now.

First loss is nothing but a lesson to improve and learn from. Other guilds come and go, but they aren’t after the same objective. Each week is suppose to be harder, we know this, otherwise the ladder would not exist.

Practice … makes … perfect. Everyday you improve, we do not? And the guilds staying have fought and won against the above servers. I just call them out, as personal fun battles.

airstu.2579:

No need to earn badges for ascended items when weeks like this gives more than enough time in FoTM to be fully decked out in ascended gear as well as pad the bank for siege and upgrades next week.

This also applies to Kaineng, we are all presently just building supply up, and levelling alts. When you have access to EB JP daily, usually you get way too much seige than any commanders can lay out supply for in a days run. 2 prints per character * lets be nice and say 100 versus the entirety of a guild 400+ (we’ll chalk it up to concurrent users at a given time in wvw)… we still won’t lay near that at all.

So yeah, both points actually apply to … all servers. 1. Not as much to do, but find a couple good battles here and there. So instead … practice/test play/improve upon, and train. And 2. Supply up, for long & constant battles ahead.

Every wvw thread each week I see 2 common themes.

1. Other servers growing dislike to us (kain)
2. Everyone’s growing dislike to server transfers

90% of the posts are not worth reading. Keep on do whatever it is to have some fun, and keep up the practice and training Kaineng. To the NSP and AR I have met, some enjoyable battles, thank you. Keep up the good work.

~Xgammon

Kashiwazaki Sena.6581:

WM – Gangnam style

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Iefpj4q3Oc

i am worst of WM’s warrior.
Have fun with this movie.

That was a funny video. I enjoyed the "Start Chicken run’

Didn’t want to post last night, reset was a fun battle all around. Primarily stayed on NSP BL, and noticed many from AR and NSP there too. I was one of the guys helping out seige up the hills, and there was a number of good battles out there. Including a great big NSP push at North Gate, and almost the same time, AR was at the south gate but with fewer numbers at that time. All in all, many fun battles to be had, I was actually a little concerned from that push as we had a waypoint 80% complete when you guys came. Only reinforced/not fortified yet.

Will see you all out there again,

~X [RE]

PS… we’ve been coordinating fight clubs every week (you can check some pics from the other threads), but only ever plan it the day before reset. Good to see it popping up this early on as some alternate activities for a little light hearted fun

There are 2 things I can definitely say about a ranger:

1. I understand they are very strong underwater combatants.

2. Based on number 1, I wouldn’t waste my time. There are 0 underwater keeps/towers in WvW and 1 completely underwater entrance to a keep. In any event I would use siege. My brother and one of my friends play a ranger, and they don’t enjoy it as much as there other characters. They say things like “It just feels like a little less” (referring to how it compares to there say necro, guardian or warrior, or thieves).

It’s not a terrible profession they enjoy it (and I bet in the near future Ranger’s will get some love from Anet), but atm … I would throw the question back to you and ask what appeals to you about the ranger over the other professions?

Actually I’m going to go against the better half of my guildies here and add 1, that’s right … only 1 reason to come here and let people know… and that is “So guilds of the person can handle it as they see just”. IF we all can agree to that, I think that seems to make sense. This is a courtesy.

Reporting it to Anet is vital. However, reporting it to the guild to address in immediate fashion is appreciated but we need a screenshot to help the process. Sometimes it can be seen as a courtesy from one server’s guild to another provide a screen shot, with the guy targeted showing the exploit. At least from my perspective.

In the end though, Anet needs to know to be able to take account related action, the latter is only a nice thing (and I doubt your planning on doing us any favors)you are offering to the guild of the accused. It’s also a personal choice whether or not you do either.

Just saying… “wow kain, you hacks” … will not help anyone. Kinda like me saying “you poisoned the food at the arena”. Neither would help in court. Many of us do not condone any illegal action of any kind, but we are likely to busy looking at the enemy and our move to turn and watch our fellow server kin and their action.