Guild Wars 2

WyldKat.4712:

I’m surprised everyone didn’t leave WvW for Southsun. When else are you going to be able to say you fought off a bad case of crabs without meaning something horrific?

Hey! I defeated the crabs, got my back-sucking tentacles, and then went into WvW to show them off all evening!

And for the record, Karka are definitely “something horrific.”

Also, for the record, it only takes around 2-3 hours to get the 25 achievements and the two backpieces. Might be less than that, actually.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Hickeroar.9734:

I still can’t get over the incredible number of players that DB seems to be able to field at one time. Running large zergs on three maps is making me green with envy!

Actually, it’s making DB Green…
(you can still have the “envy” though )

xD

o i c wat u did there.

Jski.6180:

Gellor.6497:

Shadow Gathering.5649:

Is it just me or does WvW participation seem lower across all servers these past few weeks/months? T2 doesn’t feel as populated as it once did.

Actually no WvW has never been more popular in DB than since we lost our guilds to SoS… Not sure about FA/TC

Ya FA realty slacking off this week i am thinking all the complaining about the AC is keeping ppl away from it. As a server we kind of shot our self in the foot here by talking about how bad something is (even if it was not) tends to keep ppl away from even trying it in the first places.

Don’t be too hard on FA. These things go in cycles. You guys had an amazing couple weeks, and you’re probably suffering a bit from burnout.

TC hit that scenario for the last two weeks, and this week we’re building back up to full strength. We’re still not all the way there, compared to the showing we saw ~4-5 weeks ago, but we’re having a great week overall. It’s been very fun, and that’s what matters.

I still can’t get over the incredible number of players that DB seems to be able to field at one time. Running large zergs on three maps is making me green with envy!

I WvW’d for hours last night, 2-3 of which I was commanding.

I still haven’t seen someone use a single trap on any side.

I think this thing is just an overblown non-issue, in hindsight.

mekkanic.4759:

CAA.9653:

Saruon.4085:

This SM 3 way is never gonna end!

KEEP IT COMING

We’re you guys able to get ANY skills off? Literally, everybody in our server had Terrible lag. We couldn’t use any skills except 1. Yet, we saw a lot of walls by either TC or DB. A lot of people in FA rage quit because of that.

Nevertheless, I was frustrated but had fun.

I was able to get off every single skill with no lag. Was running 60 fps in Lords Room too.

/sarcasm

It was very laggy. I think I teleported several times ahead of the zerg for some reason and every time I hit Hammer 2 it looked like I was dunking before I jumped in the air, if you can even picture that.

Yeah, I’ve never seen skill lag that bad before. It was bad enough that the ring was still blue while we were in it, even though there were no FA/DB in it. Then suddenly we capped, like the server realized “Oh, they’ve been standing in an uncontested ring for a while now…”

Most of us could only get off our autoattack and maybe an occasional heal if we were lucky.

Still had a ton of fun though!

Saruon.4085:

This SM 3 way is never gonna end!

KEEP IT COMING

That was SO. MUCH. FUN. Definitely one of my favorite SM experiences thusfar.

I still can’t believe our little band clinched it there, even if it was only for one tick. xD

We lost about 2/3 of our numbers about halfway through the fight. They had to map hop for some other thing somewhere else.

Unfortunately we got a little too focused on SM and didn’t notice FA ninja some of our stuff. That hurt, but we got it back.

1) This is a WvW question, so this is the wrong forum.
2) The stealth trap will not hurt thieves. No one is going to waste 15 badges, 525 Karma, and 10 supply to break stealth on a single thief for 30 seconds. No point.
3) The stealth trap hurts mesmers more than anything. They can be placed across broken walls to catch mesmers trying to sneak-port. They can be placed outside portals to keep veil-rushes from being possible. Pretty much every good use for them involves effectively stunting mesmers in some way.

They increased the server capacity, and now servers are hitting full again. There’s no population problem.

Lions Arch on Tarnished Coast is absolutely packed with people.

I’ve been playing since launch and I haven’t run out of fun things to do yet.

Lots of options for PvE.
Several options for PvP.
WvW is still a ton of fun.
Fractals are fun. I’m burned out on them, but I got to lvl 43 before that happened.

kaltastic.3146:

I thought this thread was going to be about visitor bathrooms in borderlands

Charmin Ultra Soft or Charmin Ultra Strong?

Svarty.8019:

Jhawk.1360:

wish.1027:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

Bring on the purples with badges, thanks, I got 9k I didnt spend yet just waiting! 1k each would be a good price IMO.

someone who has more than me! I got a full bank line.

I’m sure there are plenty of us with this happening.

Only those who don’t buy siege. I spend every badge on siege, and then spend my gold on top of that….

Really? Did they replace it with the new trap vendor or something?

Lenador.1436:

Curse u pve releases making wvw so boring

Ugh. That’s right. Dismal WvW population tonight, I expect. I’m gonna take a quick run through Southsun, but then hop on in.

Not really into PvE as much these days, other than dungeons when I can find a decent group.

WyldKat.4712:

jciardha.1936:

We have the best timing, ever.

I like how you got the whole gamut of responses in one shot.

I bet DB was saying “YES!!” “WOOHOO!!” etc…

Bllade.1029:

Summary

The traps can be triggered regardless if you have supply or are stealthed. 30 sec reveal debuff for the stealth trap and 10 supply taken for the other trap. You can place traps while in stealth. Yes they affect an AoE area. NPC’s do not set them off.

Traps cost 10 supply, 500 karma and 15 badges.

Perfect. Thanks. I definitely predict people running ahead of groups, preferably without supply, setting off traps along the way.

Sounds like it’s a pretty standard ANet tool in that respect. Pretty nasty in some circumstances. Learn to play…and it’s not much of a threat.

VOLKON.1290:

We need traps that hit their weak points for massive damage.

Oh godz… the memes are overtaking me…

Coming soon: Ascended Cups, to protect your weak points.

Dhampyr.2104:

Hickeroar.9734:

Evalana.5480:

Usagi.4835:

It’s official, I just bought my first trap but I’m so reluctant to use it frivolously.

I heard DB loves getting trapped.

Did they ‘fix’ arrowcarts?

Yup. Range nerfed from 3500 down to 2800. Damage to siege was nerfed to a vague 50% of its current upgrade… So I’m pretty sure that means it still damages siege more than it used to, but not as much as it did after the buff. Damage to players wasn’t nerfed.

I’m happy with this change. It’s what I was hoping for, honestly.

I’m definitely not a math wiz, but I think ACs will do less damage to siege than they did originally. Hypothetical – let’s say that ACs did 10 damage originally. 80% increase bumps it to 18. Half of 18 is 9, less than the original 10. Should help I think.

The wording makes me think they nerfed it by 50% of what they added. They added 80%, then just nerfed that 80% by 50% when siege is concerned, so the net buff is 40% over the original value.

10 + 8 – 4 = 14, is kinda how I imagined it.

Terrahero.9358:

Hickeroar.9734:

Questions:

Is there a visual component to either trap “springing?”

Will the trap spring even if:
A) the person walking over it isn’t stealthed, or
B) the person walking over it doesn’t have any supply?

Does the supply trap count those without supply in the max-20 people count? Is it just a random chance that you get affected?

If these are shaped like a “strip,” it definitely feels like they intended them to be dropped at the doors to keeps and towers.

I dont know if it triggers if people dont have supply, or arent in stealth. Im just guessing it doesnt, but if they Trigger there is a clear animation.

f.e. the Supply Trap shows a Tornado (like the Ele Elite) and crates swirling in it.

Cool, thanks. In any case, I can definitely see it being a common practice for zergs to have a man run ahead of the group to trip any traps.

^ Yes, 1200 range is lunacy. It should have been 360 radius at the most.

Questions:

Is there a visual component to either trap “springing?”

Will the trap spring even if:
A) the person walking over it isn’t stealthed, or
B) the person walking over it doesn’t have any supply?

Does the supply trap count those without supply in the max-20 people count? Is it just a random chance that you get affected?

If these are shaped like a “strip,” it definitely feels like they intended them to be dropped at the doors to keeps and towers.

Usagi.4835:

It’s official, I just bought my first trap but I’m so reluctant to use it frivolously.

Hopefully a common sentiment. The supply trap is a meta-breaker. Absolute idiocy.

Stealth trap is great, imho. These will be great to plant at the doors to our keeps to combat the thieves contesting.

Evalana.5480:

Usagi.4835:

It’s official, I just bought my first trap but I’m so reluctant to use it frivolously.

I heard DB loves getting trapped.

Did they ‘fix’ arrowcarts?

Yup. Range nerfed from 3500 down to 2800. Damage to siege was nerfed to a vague 50% of its current upgrade… So I’m pretty sure that means it still damages siege more than it used to, but not as much as it did after the buff. Damage to players wasn’t nerfed.

I’m happy with this change. It’s what I was hoping for, honestly.

This is exactly what I’d hoped for. Thanks!

Anyone kind enough to give us a score update?

wolf.1895:

Starting up a Fight Club @ 5 PM Server on Wednesday & Thursday. 1v1 2v2 5v5 10v10 idc, need to get away from mindless zergs. DB BL south of the windmill.

Maybe TC and FA can get away from their zerg balls for once and give us some small scale fights & duels ^^

~ TG

Leave my zergballs out of this!!

LetoII.3782:

Engineers hit like a truck. In small group action they’re pretty awesome.
There’s lots of specialist builds. But they’re specialists, a component of a proper group build. That’s something a lot of people have overlooked in this game, teams. Real guilds.
Far too many people hanging around in wow-style pug guilds.

This is probably partially caused by ANets abhorrent implementation of “Guild Management Tools.” Namely that there aren’t any. If ANet took guilds seriously, the players would probably take them seriously.

A roaming group of eles and thieves often benefits by having a guardian in-tow. Helps to have an tough target handing out boons and taking focus-fire while the high-dps classes do the cleaning.

Hadan.2841:

Issues.5789:

Hadan.2841:

iwho really cares if ppl care if u hurt their feelings lol.

I can tell you’re very popular amongst friends and think quite highly of yourself.

I can tell you’re a carebear…move along now

:-( Carebears are friends!

Maniac.5163:

GabGar.4962:

I just want to ask if this kind of behaviour should be tolerated/allowed by Anet, guilds, servers and players.

TC used to do it to FA too lol. Just take it as a compliment that you were worth the effort.. not worth giving any attention to really and I doubt ANet does anything about it

I think there was a phase when we first hit T2 this time when FA had troll-named alternatives for all the major TC WvW guilds. Some people are legitimate trolls (the “Your server is trash” one is classless), but mostly it’s just a fun jab at the enemy.

I know we had a [HOGS] guild for a while in response to…..certain events. :-P

Jayne.9251:

I like us better us better when we are red.

I do too. I think TC has a great “scrappy underdog” mentality. We get excited when we’re up against the wall.

“On desperate ground, fight.” – Sun Tzu

Had an absolute blast on FABL tonight. Lots of small group skirmishes. Lots of wins, lots of losses, lots of fun. One of the more fun WvW nights in a while.

Dayra.7405:

Hickeroar.9734:

That just sounds like a balancing and QQ nightmare.

I do not see the balancing aspect of summing up the total number of players of all servers.
A time where 300:0:0 people are fighting is scored equally (300 in total) to a time where 100:100:100 (also 300 in total) are fighting.

So what happens when two servers are fielding 300 each, and the third is only able to field 30? Those two servers benefit from the greater scaling of the points, while the third gets absolutely shafted.

Dayra.7405:

I did NOT argued that a 10:60 is unfair and should not score points.

I argued that a time where there are 1200 are fighting (100 per map and world, i,e,. all maps full) should be more valuable in scoring than a time where only 70 or even 0 are fighting in a match.

If 1200 are fighting for 695 points thats around 0.5 points score per player, if 70 are fighting for 695 pts this is 10 points score per player, i.e. an off-time player scores around 20 times as many points as an prime-time player.

That just sounds like a balancing and QQ nightmare.

Mister Mustard.7203:

Hickeroar.9734:

Lanimal.6541:

Whats going to happen when those rumored chinese servers are launched?

I’d imagine they’ll have their own set of servers, not related to our lineup.

I can, however, see that some of the SEA coverage across the existing servers will drop significantly…

I imagine a good number of the Oceanic population as well.

I guess it would depend if the games are even compatible… It looks like, assuming the leaks are legit, that the Chinese version of the game will carry a few notable differences…

As long as they maintained a cooldown on the weapons switch sigil procs, I would fully support removing the CD on swapping.

If you have coverage you have coverage. If you don’t…you don’t.

However, if you’re allowing an enemy server to get more than +600 PPT….that seems to come down to a “learn to play” issue.

Even in T2, I’ve seen us holding several keeps and towers pretty solidly when outnumbered 10 vs 60 on the maps.

On the flip side, if you’re running even with these people via makeup on the other times of the day, then they could make the same argument against your side. Why is it fair that they lose their “lead” just because YOU have more players. It’s fair…because it’s fair.

Lanimal.6541:

Whats going to happen when those rumored chinese servers are launched?

I’d imagine they’ll have their own set of servers, not related to our lineup.

I can, however, see that some of the SEA coverage across the existing servers will drop significantly…

Gellor.6497:

Asudementio.8526:

Seems i’ve hit a nerve. But i stick to what i said, DB greatly benefited from KN falling from the tier, in more ways than one. I’m not sure why you’re taking issue with it now, you were happy to have guilds from KN. I’m expecting the same thing to occur with JQ. Call me cynical.

You are basically slapping every member of DB in the face who worked hard to get us to T2, what did you expect nice words? We only have CO you know that right?

Given DB’s performance since coming to T2, it’s pretty obvious that they belonged here anyway. KN’s fall may have made the process of getting to T2 “faster,” but definitely not any less certain.

VOLKON.1290:

Pavel.8531:

Sure, data before panic. We don’t have any reasons to fear the Anet WvW balancing team, right? Right? RIGHT? Look what great job they did with the ACs.

I have been. Been playing extensively with ACs since. We’ve adjusted tactics to account for stronger ACs. Apparently not everyone has figured that out yet though unfortunately.

Player tactics have been easy to change. What’s sucked is the fact that they murder siege so fast. After getting used to the damage increase against players, I don’t mind it.

Score Update for ya.

Asudementio.8526:

FrankieBonez.8361:

Asudementio.8526:

Yea i’m sure DB won’t mind waiting for JQ to drop so they can go up, after all they waited for KN.

The Dragonbrand conspiracy begins. That’s it! We make other servers lose in their tier then wait for them to implode and drop, then we strike hard while the iron is hot so we can move up. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Do you know how the ratings system works?

You sound like you have some animosity towards DB for no reason at all – from your reply to one of my earlier posts, now this. First we are omgbandwagonxtreme server – and now we are cross-tier saboteurs who can mold tiers to suit our needs.

Like I said, the kitten people smoke . . . .

edit: in response to your reply to my earlier post. I don’t ever recall DB calling FA or TC a “bandwagon” server nor a desire to see either implode. Both servers were too big for T3, we knew it and rolled with it.

Except i didn’t say any of that? So go ahead and keep victimizing yourself, poor poor DB everyone is picking on them.

What i was saying is that DB moves up because other people move down, not the other way around.

Eh, you can’t argue the fact that DB was thoroughly pwning T3 at the time. They stood a good chance of moving up and replacing someone regardless.

Yshyr.8709:

The fact is with Glicko it is perfectly possible that DB, FA, and TC are all now stronger than BG, JQ, and SOR, but we will never get to find out.

Yeah, I think a lot of people really want some kinda shake-up just to see what happens.

I would personally support a complete ratings reset, but I realize that a lot of people don’t want that at all.

If you dodge, and you know how to avoid it…then avoid it.

If you checked the box for double tapping for dodging, and you double tap, then you’re going to dodge. There’s nothing “sensitive” about it. You told it to do it, and it’s doing it.

Arkanfel.8403:

Aurust.8961:

Two things

1) If you guys are still discussing how that AC was hitting behind the gates at south hills… an AC below where you build a treb to hit lake tower can hit there behind south hills gate. Pretty standard tactic in tier 1 to clear out siege at south hills.

2) DB please please take this time to point out and educate some of your guys coming into the Tier 1 thread about how DB will come storming in, on how the rating system works.

Yeah, this dude knows what’s up. Even if we tick 300+ for most of the day (which is probably unlikely from here on out) we’ll still be in T2 for a few more weeks at least. 50+k wins It’s actually probably more likely at this point that a T1 server (dare I say, might it actually be JQ?) will drop down than it is DB will advance. If that happens, we’ll get eaten alive. The only way we’d have a chance in T1 right now is to improve our team builds, TS usage, and to become more diligent about following commanders in battle. A zerg who sends 5+ to burst down individual stragglers will soon find itself back at spawn.

Maintaining +50k isn’t a guarantee of moving up. The way the glicko system works is that you are, in some respects, fighting against your past selves. If you win two weeks by +50k, and you win the next week by +40k, chances are your glicko rating is going to DROP, not RISE that week.

Maintaining a +50k average will probably not end up pushing you up a tier, unless a server in the tier above does badly, consistently. At a +50k average, and with a stable tier above, you will just hit a sort-of equilibrium in the tier you’re in where your +50k wins aren’t actually increasing your rating.

Glicko is more complex than it seems from the initial glance. Moving up a tier pretty much requires a server to lay waste to the tier they’re in for two weeks, and often times that won’t even be enough if the tier above them is evenly matched and consistent. This was the case for a long time in T8/T7.

Zerging is not a problem.

Zerging never has been a problem.

Zerging is just people gathering in a large group to play. Strength in numbers + social play.

Leave the game alone. People zerg because they like to zerg. If zerging were somehow eliminated, WvW attendance numbers would plummet.

Arkanfel.8403:

I love how DB goes <100 PPT for a few hours and everyone loses their minds. I’ve been in T2 for most of the last 6 months and I’ve seen FA pushed to 0 before but they’re still here.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

This.

DB is currently in there with a very solid first place PPT lead.

Pronouncing that the game is over when it’s really still in the early stages of the fight is just deluded.

TC and FA both had a great late-oceanic timeslot last night. People just need to be proud of their servers for doing well and move on.

SolarStorm.7896:

2017179

I think the point of the posts is a retaliation at last weeks kitten nonsense some of your server mates were posting about the strength of your server.

I think some TC players are too concerned with 3 or 4 negative posts when their sever’s strategy is centered around using “3 monitors”.

The same thing is said of DB and FA. Moral of the story: All servers have players using three monitors and mounting arrowcarts. ;-)

I bloody hate it, but if I had three monitors I’d do it too.

I feel a disturbance in the force… O_o

/cry

DB took TCBL hills.

The Goat.1940:

I did not state FA is a bandwagon server, I don’t think it is. I did state Wreck is captain bandwagon. no answer in how many servers you have abandoned. lmao I just find it funny he has something to say negative about transfers. now he’s all QQ about being called out haha too funny. look at him try to deflect, comical I’m entertained Ty.

Watch out FA next thing you know Wreked is going to claim to have carried you!

I always got the impression that FA WvWers had a lot of FA pride, and they were very much NOT a bandwagon server. I think any time a server does well, there will be guilds that join up, but that doesn’t make them a bandwagon server “in general.”

TC is similar to FA in that regard. We’re both pretty steady, just plodding along with the same crew, gaining a few here, losing a few there.

We’ve both got server pride…for better or for worse. :-P

Fishbait.6723:

Why the hell don`t they advertise their streams, on their own sodding forums?

lol

They did. There was a post by a mod with a link to the stream.

EDIT: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-Livestream-on-GW2-Twitch-Channel