Guild Wars 2

Only thief I have not killed before is Toker. And that is because we never came across each other in que.

Arcing slice is an aoe level 1 eviscerate below 50% hp and gives fury.
Arc divider is like 1.5x the range and stronger.

But as with ever berzerker skill it is rather predictable since the berzerker form wears off in a short time.

Each match involves 10 people. SO it is rather easy for unintended consequences. I.e. players raising or falling with their teams.

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

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EphemeralWallaby.7643:

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I use vamp runes for the life steal. With the total power you have, which is more in WvW, and the fact that life steal scales with power, you will steal between 700 and 800 life with the 6th rune per target.
So the health spike when you reach 25% can be up to about 4000ish.

In team fights, this is a big enough spike heal for me.

Are you sure about the scaling? The chart in the Wiki says it doesn’t at all:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_stealing

~EW

Yes, it is the sigil of blood that scales. But even without the scaling, the heal is nice.

You said Rune of Vampirism, not Sigil of Blood, that’s why I asked. I do know the sigil scales… I rather enjoy using it, too.

~EW

I thought they all scaled since blood was scaling, but my source was incorrect. Regardless of the scaling, you still get the heal spike. It is like another dead or alive trait.

In my power warrior PvP experience, I like a thief or an elementalist. The thief can provide that extra spike damage that is unexpected. An ele allows me to win attrition fights. Having 2 wars is cool, but I like a second class of a different type better.

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

I use vamp runes for the life steal. With the total power you have, which is more in WvW, and the fact that life steal scales with power, you will steal between 700 and 800 life with the 6th rune per target.
So the health spike when you reach 25% can be up to about 4000ish.

In team fights, this is a big enough spike heal for me.

Are you sure about the scaling? The chart in the Wiki says it doesn’t at all:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_stealing

~EW

Yes, it is the sigil of blood that scales. But even without the scaling, the heal is nice.

I use vamp runes for the life steal. With the total power you have, which is more in WvW, and the fact that life steal scales with power, you will steal between 700 and 800 life with the 6th rune per target.
So the health spike when you reach 25% can be up to about 4000ish.

In team fights, this is a big enough spike heal for me.

Glad to see this is coming back. I have plenty of videos from matches up in previous seasons on power warrior in a pvp perspective. I can definitely provide some more tips if needed.
Here is a thread from season two action. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Season-2-rank-tracker/first

The point is not necessarily the build, but the approach for power warrior in a pvp match.

Most likely. I feel like it has given some warrior builds a lot more utility than expected. For my axe gs build, the additions from the trait are nice, but no where near the level to where it is over powered. I honestly like the defy pain trait change better.

Choppy.4183:

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This 16k is in spvp? That is absurd. Again I have not been playing nearly as much as previous seasons, so I have no clue about this. But I am 100% sure gs damage is lower without strength line than it is with strength line.

No, wvw. I have the most tweaked out damage vanilla build I can run (full zerk, max stacks, str-def-dis, etc, etc) and I’ve never hit 16k with AS against a heavy armored opponent. But I’ve been hit for that amount by different berserkers.

Something about Arc Divider is spiking way harder than Arcing Slice (despite the str line) in wvw. Not always, but frequently enough (plus the spammability).

Edit: Having just looked on the wiki, that “something” is a 30% higher power co-efficient….

Wouldn’t that be offset be the greatsword trait giving 20% damage and the 10% damage when endurance is not full in strength?

But then I have to account for the 7%, 7% berserker line trait. I am not saying I don’t believe you, I just find it odd is all.

Rush has got to be the highest damage coefficient self trolling skill in the game.

Arc slice is so good because it is full power with 1 adrenaline bar.
I am still hitting thing pretty hard in the few matches I have done. I am getting 2k crit auto attacks. I haven’t studied gw2 as much lately, but I am assuming its the amulet changes and the condi warrior. People so worried about condi, that my power damage is more effective.

@Rekt I pretty much quit the game. I was getting bored of the cycle and not being taken seriously. Plus I had no team.

@Choppy The shear numbers I am hitting as high. THat is what I mean by spike damage. Condi warrior still needs ticks for the condi to hurt. When I hit, the damage is done.

This 16k is in spvp? That is absurd. Again I have not been playing nearly as much as previous seasons, so I have no clue about this. But I am 100% sure gs damage is lower without strength line than it is with strength line.

Berzerker warrior has no rotation speed. As vanilla warrior I just go to fights he is not in. You do so much more spike damage as vanilla.

1v1 just troll the guy. headbutt and skull grinder pretty obvious animations. And being in longbow without rage mode in that 1v1 will get them killed. they almost seem to have to camp mace shield.
Will you lose the 1v1 over time, probably. But again look at team comp, whether you own the node or not, and current splits, it may be beneficial to take the fight. And you can always run away if needed.

Warrior is low skill floor, not low skill ceiling. You can tell the difference between a good war and a great war very easily.

You want a legitimate nerf to the build
Primal burst should be either a t1 or t2 burst instead of a free t3 burst with 10 strikes of adrenaline.
Corrects for elite spec, does not damage core spec functionality.

Adrenal health should last for 10 seconds instead of 15 seconds.
Again will correct for elite spec and not core spec. Forces some adrenal health downtime on the elite spec if they want to go into burst mode.

Trigr.6481:

Burtnik.5218:

Trigr.6481:

Adding a cast time on a shatter is a pretty ludicrous thing to ask for. Shatter by design should always be instant.

Why should shatter be instant? Why any skill in game should be? Go go e-sport.. sorry this game will always be garbage as long instant skills exist.

1- I fixed your first sentence for you, and your reply as a whole for that matter. Word structure is hard.
2- We should change any instant cast skill in the game #AllAboardTheLogicTrain
3- This game isn’t e-sports, and even if it was, it wouldn’t help your argument in this case based off what you’re saying.
4 – I could spend all day devising a rebuttal in response to #2 so savage that it would make you go crawl in kitten for a week. However I don’t want to buy another keyboard from the wear and tear from typing out a novel, it’s literally not worth the money.

Countless

You write stuff like this and then I am the one who gets infracted for saying. GOT kitten

For GS I like hydromancy and leech. The purpose is to pump damage, and that is an instant 2k damage from weapon swapping.

offhand axe and sword in my opinion are sub par in pvp.
x/Shield works well
axe&sword/mace
sword&mace/warhorn

Combos I stay away from
axe offhand- skill 4 is weak and skill 5 is weak to retaliation
sword offhand- short term block is ok. Sword throw is meh

naphack.9346:

My greataxe build runs the quickness on weapon swap sigil in the greatsword.
Not sure, whether it will outperform sigil of impact in a stun based build, but it certainly is something to take a look at.

I tried that but it only will affect 100 blades as the other skills on gs are not really quickened. And it does not affect the whole channel either, which kind of sucks.

emkelly.2371:

The buff only stacks to three but it refreshes when you burst. So if you have 2 seconds remaining.ing and you burst it will reset to 15secs.

Also my vote for top build is probably burnbow. But I’ve been enjoying.g my hybrid build be cause it’s so fun

Refreshing the buff does not do anything if you refresh it faster. That was my point. If you burst 10 seconds later or 15 seconds later, there is no discontinuity in the adren health effect.

I am bringing back a CC warrior this season. Just debating if it is going to be vanilla gs/mace
hambow
dual wielding sw/mace mace shield

With cleansing ire and adrenal health, I feel like you just cannot pass up on this opportunity to run CCs

Warrior down 3 vengeance is the biggest gamble I have ever taken. It counts as being rallied, so if you went into down state consecutive times, you start with less health.
You cannot see the condi stacks on you to decide if you should vengeance, so you could be wasting your time with an insta death anyway.
If you kill someone but do not stomp, oh well.

Only time it has really been useful is if its a 1v1 and we both go down and I vengeance to stomp the guy and I get the rally percentage.

So is this basically pro league without the official Pro league seal?
When I opened this thread I was excited at first thinking you found 8 mid tier teams to duke it out…Only to read it is basically another week.

While Ele has a ton of skills, it just does not seem complex as opposed to just mastering rotations. Half the time I am fighting eles, I feel like they are just going through the motions.

Remember adrenal health only stacks to 3 so you only have to burst every 15 seconds to get its full effect. Bursting more than that doesn’t help that trait. would help if you are using cleansing ire I suppose though.

Make sure you created a bug report

This is a very bait question. Each class requires the most skill in specific aspects in order to be most effective.

Spartacus.3192:

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Based on my observation:

The easiest of the good builds to play will be a longbow/ sword/torch condi build with rousing resilience, brawler’s recovery, burst mastery, endure pain. Berserker line seems like you want to recharge it as fast as possible. Take the 10s stun break, zerker stance, and balance stance probably. Heal signet.

I am sure someone pretty much listed this build above.

I will return on power warrior closer to season 3 and see if it is still any good.

I stopped using rousing resilence and prefer Cleansing Ire. In Berserk Mode it makes you condi immune due to the incredibly low CD of burst skills. And with more warriors in the game and most going condi, bringing more condi cleansing i find to be more useful than the extra toughness and heals.

I would agree here, but if everyone is running longbow and sword, then you would expect mostly burning. One condi spike would be handled by brawler’s recovery. But this would only be a meta, vs meta tactic if that becomes the build.
Still need more time for the dust to settle and the bugs to all get fixed.

Based on my observation:

The easiest of the good builds to play will be a longbow/ sword/torch condi build with rousing resilience, brawler’s recovery, burst mastery, endure pain. Berserker line seems like you want to recharge it as fast as possible. Take the 10s stun break, zerker stance, and balance stance probably. Heal signet.

I am sure someone pretty much listed this build above.

I will return on power warrior closer to season 3 and see if it is still any good.

Sounds like berzerker stance and balance stance combo.
Stances are very popular. Durations are about 10 seconds.
Resistance, swiftness, and stability.

I did 1v1 several condi mesmers last season. I think the extra hps will be the deciding factor. I do not remember if the confusion or the torment was worse. I think it was the torment.
That and make sure you kill the illusionary defenders. Condi build doesn’t actually have much clone and illusion generation if you are timely.
For example, do not attack while they are blocking. Apply more pressure while they are in staff, force them to weapon swap. Then you can wait out your hps while they blow the block.

Plus dodging the moa is mandatory. But if you make the mesmer use the moa on the side node and not the mid fight, you have done your job in my opinion.

EvilSardine.9635:

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This is a good change. It brings the defy pain in line with the other classes safety traits like spectral armor at 50%.

Wut? No, you can’t compare spectral armor with endure pain.

Engineer’s elixer S procs at 25%
Ele’s arcase shield procs at 25%
Revenant’s invuln procs at 25%.

Unlike most safety nets, SA and DP function in the same way. I like the change. Neither is an invuln, it is more like an alert at 50%. And I can play my course of action instead of at 25% which is arguably too late for a warrior.

Old Adrenal Was very counter intuitive to the strength defense discipline build. It makes much more sense in this form.

Also, this is not passive, you must activate and land a burst skill.

Just putting more pressure on the warrior f1. Actually I predicted this would happen. Some healing associated with the F1. And here we are.
Everything warrior is F1. Live and die by the burst skill.

Tontonino.9736:

can confirm, healing signet on warrior does not heal after using it (rofl)

I may as well not log in then lol

Needed nerf. Gaining health for having swiftness was stupid.
When one of you damage dealers is sustaining that high, there is a problem. This will force you to build in healing to get healing. Sounds about right.

You guys are missing a few points. In a vacuum, these warrior changes are not substantial.

But considering the changes to engineer regeneration, necromancer chill, and life steal normalization, I think our sustain has seen a pretty substantial buff.
Engineers would not die due to rapid healing, but now you can interrupt heal turret and the regen is lower.
Damaging condition of 500 dps is no longer there, so heal signet becomes better.
I need to test life steal but I guess they lowered it.

Now I can spam arcing slice and be rewarded, or land timely eviscerates at the proper range.
Having health per second is much better than health per 3 seconds.
I just might return and play warrior again.

EDIT: I forgot the stability removal changes and the changes to slick shoes. It is like being reborn again.

This is a good change. It brings the defy pain in line with the other classes safety traits like spectral armor at 50%.

Also, for a playstyle line mine, it just increases the threshold at which I can stay in the fight.
I always found it easy to twitch endure pain when you got low, but at times it would overlap with defy pain and be useless.

Plus this opens up the possibility of it proccing twice in a fight.

Tarcis has done good things for the warrior community in the past. No need to be so bashful.

I am curious how this build handles pressure. It appears strong against cc, but what about just straight damage.

Say a rev comes up to you with phase traversal, precision strike, unrelenting assault. What is your play besides endure pain?

My breath is not holding. But I am glad to see you in full strength still on here. I cannot say I will be around much longer if things continue on this track.

Choppy.4183:

The warrior forum just before each balance patch, and then the inevitable aftermath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMKQsi7nbno

Appropriate reference. Well done sir

you cannot have a 6h que time because it cuts off.

Actually my f2p is almost level 20. I may try and do a legendary marathon with it over the weekend lol

I was going through some of my old builds, and I noticed a trait that seems to be gone now.

“Short Tempered” Gain 3 stacks of might for 5 seconds and 1 strike of adrenaline each time you are blocked.

“Restorative Strength” Using a heal removes cripple chill immobilize.

Yeah I just wanted to say I miss these guys.

dominik.9721:

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If we go un-adjusted through another balance patch, I will probably do what I always do. Stream myself pushing to legendary, then just lingering around the game until the season is over. Those first 2 weeks of leagues are pretty challenging.

In what way was it challenging to reach legendary this season in two weeks? People got legendary with f2p accounts within one week 2 times in a row. With that matchmaking I probably could get legendary with a naked P/P-teef in this time.

When the league first starts, you are pushing up at the same rate as the pro league players. So when you win, you are actually beating good players and not just grinders. Several nights in emerald, sapphire, and ruby, I would be playing with/against Team PZ, Edream, etc. In just the random que.
We both know those divisions are only a fraction of that difficulty now.

I could probably get to legendary in like 2 days this late in the league just because of the competition level.

Remember builds like
2|4|0|2|6

I never understood why specializations did not replace class mechanic trait lines. The class mechanic lines were initially class specific specializations that boosted the current class mechanic. For example discipline and berserker, daredevil and trickery etc.

Used to be speccing into discipline make your burst skills better. They scrapped all of that and just made too much baseline.

I will say the 5% heal signet buff has actually made the difference in some of my matchups. A little bright spot in all this darkness. Even though it is only like an extra 15 hps, in a 30 second fight, that 450 health is significant if I down the enemy with less than 1k hp left.

If we go un-adjusted through another balance patch, I will probably do what I always do. Stream myself pushing to legendary, then just lingering around the game until the season is over. Those first 2 weeks of leagues are pretty challenging.

scrapper chief. disengage ability. high regeneration and protection uptime. stealth
good sustained damage. stomp and rez support. ability to get rampage. moa for enemy

emkelly.2371:

Zagerus.8675
I’ve had excellent success with the GS/ Axe+Shield core power warrior (found it through K Pop’s post on here.) We still don’t have nearly the team support/utility that other professions get, like Revenant, for example, but we do have top-tier pressure damage. In SoloQ this pressure is quite valuable. Power War
It is superb at team fighting so I would try to spend most of the match in those, personally. Rarely do I ever engage in 1v1’s without the intent of being a boon to my team’s map presence overall.

Gonna have to disagree here. We are not Top tier burst damage in spvp. Sure we have burst damage, but in a fight it is unlikely we will survive long enough to make it effective. Necro’s in particular shut Warriors down

2 necros or two revs shut down a warrior. A singular version does not.

ArthurDent.9538:

Eviscerate along with most power based skills also does 0 damage when it hits an enemy using endure the pain, is blocking, evading, invuln or if user is blinded. So why is it when you try to burst into those methods of damage mitigation it is fine even though they are all much more common than an ele that stacked defensive traits and received out side help from a revenant’s elite skill which is the only way to get that much damage reduction? Rite of the great Dwarf has a low up time at best (especially on an ele), so handle it like you would any other form of defensive skill and don’t mindlessly use your main burst skill into it.

Massive damage mitigation usually has major tells. Engi small form, Ele mist, evade frames, etc.
But this is much harder to see.
I am not actually sure if the ele gets an icon for the rev skill.
Frankly when I used eviscerate, I was expecting reduced damage, but this is like 99% reduced for something the target did not even do.

Imagine if I popped endure pain, and you took zero damage as well.

Zagerus.8675:

I’ve had excellent success with the GS/ Axe+Shield core power warrior (found it through K Pop’s post on here.) We still don’t have nearly the team support/utility that other professions get, like Revenant, for example, but we do have top-tier pressure damage. In SoloQ this pressure is quite valuable. Power War

It is superb at team fighting so I would try to spend most of the match in those, personally. Rarely do I ever engage in 1v1’s without the intent of being a boon to my team’s map presence overall.

I just want to point out that I have been using Rune of Vampirism for 2 reasons.
Because of the passive stun break on the 6th rune, sometimes it helps me when I am about to die randomly. (EDIT) I need to verify this. It could just be overlapping with the endure pain proc each time. I will test this.
Because the life steal on the 6th rune, with 5 targets in the area, restores about 3.5k HP. It is basically a free Dead or Alive.