Guild Wars 2

Evidence of the corruption!

Thief is invaluable for defiance management in all paths of HotW.
Guardian gives aegis for uninterrupted burn. It’s also great in HotW.
For the golem in CoE, just let Spire take the projectile shot. A staff ele can cleave down both protection and retal turrets just fine.

I’ve seen a good ranger can sub for warrior in low level dungeons and run time is hardly different. Plus ranger is a better ice bow user too.

Sure, HotW and COF? Should I ask for CoE.

@Wethospu: yes! Atoi can put a query for anything given we know the map and the names.

Give me a list of untested monsters. Knowing the race of them may help narrow down the potions to be tested, I assume.

Moss.5371:

Some of the excuses given to OP for not even considering his submission plainly stink and make the sc community look like a kitten. It’s sad.

Yep, the speed clear community is all about casual daily dungeon run. I’m feeling sad, too.

But aren’t you supposed to get riled by the new competition? Like Nike said: “bad records will bring in more competition than an empty leaderboard.”

ShadowRX.9024:

Element Two.7316:

ShadowRX.9024:

To the OP , I don’t think casual runs/daily dungeon tour belong on the leaderboard.

So go and post a more competitive time then if you don’t want casual runs on the leaderboard holy kitten it’s not difficult.

I guess you can’t read what I wrote. This time is already beaten.

There is currently no records claimed for CM since the might/stability patch?

Exactly the first thing came across my mind. Color blind. Then I just shrugs it off.

Element Two.7316:

Iris Ng.9845:

He already did, no? o_O

If he did then there’s no reason to complain :| Complaining about records on the leaderboard being too slow is pretty stupid.

Agree, Deathly should apply for the records as well.

I thought that we all agree the volunteers are corrupted because they haven’t reviewed this record.

Element Two.7316:

ShadowRX.9024:

To the OP , I don’t think casual runs/daily dungeon tour belong on the leaderboard.

So go and post a more competitive time then if you don’t want casual runs on the leaderboard holy kitten it’s not difficult.

He already did, no? o_O

All Races in Ascalonian Catacomb

INVALID_STRING – Human[s]
Ascalonian Captain – Ascalonian Ghost
Cave Troll – Graveling
The Ghost Eater – Graveling
Ghastly Ooze – Ascalonian Ghost
Spider Hatchling – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Mesmer[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Commoner[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Necromancer[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Master Nente – Ascalonian Ghost
Warmaster Grast – Ascalonian Ghost
Ralena – Ascalonian Ghost
Barracuda[s] – Fish[pl:“Fishes”]
Ascalonian Necromancer[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Kragg Ghoststalker (Dungeon Entry) – Charr
Graveling Scavenger[s] – Graveling
Ascalonian Monk[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ectoplasmic Ooze[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Mesmer[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Quilla Ghosthunter (Repeatable) – Charr
Colossus Rumblus – Graveling
Graveling[s] – Graveling
Ascalonian Elementalist[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Kasha Blackblood – Ascalonian Ghost
Vassar – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Captain – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Captain – Ascalonian Ghost
Lieutenant Kholer – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Stalker[s] – Graveling
Spider Hatchling – Ascalonian Ghost
Spider – Graveling
King Adelbern – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Hatchling[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Fang – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Monk[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Breeder[s] – Graveling
Ascalonian Ranger[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Scavenger[s] – Graveling
Shadow – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Breeder[s] – Graveling
Bone Minion[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Warrior[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Ascalonian Ranger[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling[s] – Graveling
INVALID_STRING(Self Heal • Stun) – Ascalonian Ghost
Graveling Stalker[s] – Graveling
Graveling Breeder[s] – Graveling
Ascalonian Warrior[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
INVALID_STRING – Ooze[s]
Graveling Howler[s] – Graveling
Graveling Hatchling[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
Flesh Golem[s] – None
Graveling Scavenger[s] – Graveling
Graveling Howler[s] – Graveling
Ascalonian Elementalist[s] – Ascalonian Ghost
INVALID_STRING (Sprays Poison) – Graveling
INVALID_STRING (Regenerates • AoE Knockback)- Troll[s]
The Howling King – Graveling

• Invalid String : encrypted strings

Current Races in Game

Mad King Minion[s]
Aetherblade[s]
Hologram[s]
Ooze[s]
Flame Legion Charr
Ogre[s]
Wintersday Toy[s]
Karka
Skritt
Elemental[s]
Branded Minion[s]
Boar[s]
Reptile[s]
Golem[s]
Steamwork[pl:“Steamworks”]
Bat[s]
Inquest
Human[s]
Rodent[s]
Tengu
Jotun
Hylek
Twisted Watchwork[pl:“Twisted Watchworks”]
Ghost
Wurm[s]
Elemental[s]
Green Team
Icebrood Minion[s]
Ruminant[s]
Kodan
Troll[s]
Bandit[s]
Underworld denizen
Norn
Basilisk[s]
Undead Minions
Sons of Svanir
Charr
Spider[s]
Test Dummy
Minotaur[s]
Skelk
Fish[pl:“Fishes”]
Plant[s]
Dog[s]
Asura
Quaggan[s]
Warg Dog[s]
Largos
Machine[s]
Animal[s]
Raptor
Pirate[s]
Skale
Fleshreaver[s]
Ogre[s]
Ettin[s]
Plant Dog[s]
Red Team
Imp[s]
Giant[s]
Dwarf[pl:“dwarves”]
Destroyer[s]
Bear[s]
Griffon[s]
Insect[s]
Cat[s]
Ascalonian Ghost
Sylvari
Bird[s]
Krait
Graveling
Mini Pet
Nightmare Court
Renegade[s]
Harpy[pl:“Harpies”]
Rock Dog[s]
Blue Team
Dredge
Ooze[s]
Drake[s]
Grawl
Centaur[s]
Crustacean[s]
Wind Rider[s]
Hallucination[s]
Summoned Minion[s]
Devourer[s]

So a friend of mine, Atoi lets me in for his newly developed tool which is able to extract various information on monsters and skill database from the game files. After a long discussion with him, I find there are some useful information which ought to be shared

• Race: the named category in which various monster are classified as. NPC, Monsters, Mini, etc. In general, they can be crit and applied with a condition.
• Gadgets: Tequatl, Jormag, Turrets, Seed Pots, etc. In general, they cannot be crit.
  - Are players’ turrets Races or Gadgets? Atoi thinks they just turned the turrets into species with a Race. “However, given there are 45k+ species in the game, even if something has the same name/model like the cm and the engi turret, chances that its a completely different object is pretty high.”

All Races in the game: http://privatepaste.com/cbb6c4e18a

A couple of random mobs which were thrown in the test:

• Mossman: (race) Norn, not Sons of Svanir
• Bloomhunger: (race) Plant, possibly not a Nightmare
• Nightmare Vine (the wurms in TA): (race) Nightmare, not Wurm or Plant
• There are seven species with Races in Snow Blind fractal; 6 of them are Sons of Svanir and the last one being Wolves. Elemental Source is a Gadget and Atoi couldn’t find the coded name of the “Swirler” to verify its species.
• A comprehensive list of mobs and their Races in Ascalonian Catacomb. Interestingly, there are two Trolls, with one being Graveling and the other Troll http://privatepaste.com/4fff824530
• Most monsters in Honor of the Waves are Icebrood, not Sons of Svanir :’(
• Kudu’s Power Suit is Bandit ^^

That’s all for now. All this great information is of courtesy of Atoi. I’m working to bridge between him and Wethospu to complete the Slaying Potion project. More will come soon.

Not really, turrets in CM is still immune to crit and condi damage. I think only players’ turrets are locally changed.

Jerus, Lord of the AFK Realm.

Wethospu.6437:

This “issue” of casual runs being records is caused by two things: small playerbase and aggressive record resetting.

Playerbase can’t be really changed but we can alter the record resetting procedure. For example adding lots of extra time to “non-valid” records instead of invalidating them.

requoted.

Venom share thief for tourney? Starting at about 2:32:00

http://www.twitch.tv/gamewithstorm/c/6490370

Jerus’ nostalgia kinda puts a smile on me. Have faith, buddy!

Congrats to [vC]. Good job!

While we are waiting for an approver to have an official saying in this matter, this is what I think when I see this record.

“Oh wow, someone challenges the CM record of the mighty [SC]. Might they be the new [qT]?”

“Oh wow, they used the same strategy as the previous record, but it took twice amount of time, lol. Are they even serious?”

People who do the records have spent upwards to 12 hours of practice with a truly interesting and new strategy but their records get reset after every minor updates. Then there are others who just casually copy the same strategy to put their names on the list just because they submit firstly after the reset. And you call that a competition?

Why don’t you think other big names like qT, iV or rT didn’t vie for this empty spot? Because they respect the old record. They may haven’t found the newer and better strategy to beat it with an appropriate time. Look at the old Arah p3 records. I called that a “serious fighting”. It kept getting broken over and over not because one has better rng than others (though that counts) but every tweaks on the skips, splits and team fights reflect how much they invested in getting a better time. And they made sure to perfect it so that their competitor could never copy it and pull the better time.That is, to me, the sportsmanship of the record scene and that is what makes it fresh and fun to watch. If you ask me, why doesn’t [SC] repeat their records? I may guess it’s time and priority. It takes time to get people to practice. It takes motivation, (like “wahoo, we found the next best tactics!”) to see that practice to the end. It sets the priority to their projects. If there is nothing new to do, they might come back to re-do their past records.

In the end, I’m not a part of the rule makers nor in charge of the approval procedure. I’m not the right person to discuss about the rule. Wethospu has voiced his opinion already (and rightfully got ignored, lol). I’m here just to make a comment and I wholeheartedly agree to what Jerus posted above me <3

To OP, good luck and hope to see you again.

Unblockable attacks.

I’m curious. Is this small guild team serious about setting (and fighting for) this record or they just conveniently post their casual run to fill in the empty spot? Because you know, they have an option to submit their record directly on the website if they don’t want to see unfavorable comments.

Lol, I’m certain that [SC] will beat their own record in CM. It’s not the first time they have to redo them.

I think chill will work against enemies with fast attack like those raptors shown in http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/655187027 about 41 minutes in and to slow down bosses with frequent massive attack like Mossman’s Gouge, or Fimbul’s leap smash so we can burst them in between three possible aegis.

GWEN will become NGEW soon. Jerus, dust off your necro!

Then I hope that Necro can kill thing fast enough before he needs to use any active defense

phys.7689:

Iris Ng.9845:

I wonder if necro will have more than 5 enemy-cleave restriction considering their attack will have a huge windup and scale up with the more enemies they cleave. Hmm… hmm…
On the other hand, the pulse rate of blinding utilities is not reliable when mobs have fast attack rate. From the look of the new mobs (i.e. dinosaurs) in the demo, maybe chill (and slow) will be a new form of protection.

yeah, i think enemies are going to have more skills, higher attack speed, more mobility.
focused bursts will probably require breaking the bar first.
essentially, im thinking those things alone will change the meta a decent amount.

I don’t personally care as much about meta as about interesting game play. If it is fun to play, we may be lucky to see a few new solo record here and there, along the line of what Sandy has achieved with his mesmer. We all play the meta for gold, but only fun play will last and inspire. Necro needs that face lift.

TPMN.1483:

Nike – I have no idea what the rules are for restricted or unrestricted.

It would take an expert to know the rules or really where to find them (I’m not an expert in understanding the rules either).

All I remember is if you have mini pets with you (which I love) – its always an unrestricted run unless something changed ?

Here it is: http://gw2dungeons.net/Rules

I was responding to his reactions about “unrestricted records == must use exploits”.

Edit: To OP, the current record setter is [SC] with 2 minute 37 second.

I wonder if necro will have more than 5 enemy-cleave restriction considering their attack will have a huge windup and scale up with the more enemies they cleave. Hmm… hmm…
On the other hand, the pulse rate of blinding utilities is not reliable when mobs have fast attack rate. From the look of the new mobs (i.e. dinosaurs) in the demo, maybe chill (and slow) will be a new form of protection.

If anyone is going to post their fast-ish casual dungeon runs for unrestricted records, it’s gonna be a mess. The point of unrestricted rule set is to allow creativity to make the run as fast as possible. It needs to be interesting and innovative. For example, tactics like splitting, NPC porting, or double portal, etc. Unless your run is really unique, it’s easy to expect your own record to be beaten by other groups within a couple of days. Surely you can submit your own ‘record’ to fill the empty spot but at least please make it a good competition.

Arah is quite hard. Unless you have a nomad war in the group to constantly rez u

@deSade: S a o i r s e!!!

P.S. I want Imperial Gold dye for her boots

My ele is currently suffering from my obsession with Fantine. She went from Goth to more rebellious Goth. So very close to change her name to Fantine as well <3

Not sure why this topic is taking this direction… zzz

EcoRI.9273:

Jerus.4350:

EcoRI.9273:

serenke.4806:

Iris Ng.9845:

maha.7902:

Iris Ng.9845:

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

well what other game mode do you think this thread could be about, when it’s stuck in to the fractals and dungeons forum?

Mesmer has no skills that would be considered triviallizing an encounter, or namely “overpowered”. If you say Feedback can nuke Lupi then Wall of Reflection could do the same thing. Is it overpowered enough to guarantee a nerf (which happens to to skills such as FGS, ice bow, black powder or healing signet)? Nope, I think not.

Untraited Warden used to be borderline overpowered. Right now none of the mesmer skills are worth called overpowered, in PvE.

No need to be hypersensitive. I don’t intend to open any debate over every single game modes here.

The OP did not really go with skills that trivialize encounters. Because banner of discipline sure is not doing that.

Well can’t think of anything else on a warrior’s kit that is more OP than disc banner.

Phalanx Strength? faceroll max might is quite OP

if only phalanx str was a skill. But yea that trait is stupid OP. I kind of wished there was a more skillful interaction with PS than just button mashing. Imagine if Phalanx str work this way: Everytime you sucessfully crit, the enemy drops an “essence of strength” in a random area around it. If you “pick it up” before this essence lands on the ground, you and your party gain 3stacks of might. Kind of like draven axe in league. So SICK!!1

Holding F while pressing 1. How does it make any difference? .__."

frifoxy.6014:

I’ll vote Sword #2 and #4 for mes. Most reliable offensive defensive skills we have. Block/Evade attacks and do 12k dmg, twice every ~10s, yes please. Sword 2/4 is pretty much the reason I can survive Subject Alpha and Lupi indefinitely without needing Energy sigils. In fact, I don’t even own any energy sigils on my mes…

I hope Anet doesn’t agree with you so that they would never nerf it. Blurred Frenzy is too good. Is it me or its evade counts as a distortion as well?

Disc banner is useful, not OP. The only thing that can deem OP to me (for war) is Healing Signet. You don’t even need to use it 99% of the time but it keeps you alive no matter what.

@dlonie: We have Rampage, but that’s another story.

You can troll people by res-ing them with Illusion of Life when the boss is somewhat full HP :B

Arvizal.8436:

I wouldn’t even consider my self a great player, so for me its normal to get about 200ish as a score per round in Unranked PvP. Not sure if that’s good or bad so I’m not gonna brag about it (haha) but I was wondering if Ranked matches prove more of a challenge? I just played a few Unranked matches as a thief with a friend who joined the game LAST MONTH (I’ve played since launch) and he was 2nd on the scoreboard behind me… Should I try ranked or something? (I’m Husrah, and he’s my friend Arkianos)

PS: I get this sounds a lot like a brag post but it’s a legitimate question! Thanks!!

I got this matchup in Unranked. The higher MMR you are, the more likely you are to match with better players.

In many fractal encounters, phantasms last quite long. Some bosses’ attacks and mechanics don’t affect them at all ;o

Sarahfull.4930:

Iris Ng.9845:

Sarahfull.4930:

Engi: overpowered shot

I would prefer Net Shot to Overcharged Shot. Both have their uses and I love them dearly. But Net Shot is truly underrated in PvP. Then I also love Slick Shoes for its ridiculously long CC duration. Using them against the Golems in Aetherblade fractal or against the Kitty Golems are so much fun! And not forget about our Elixir elite <3

But the pun :o

You had me there! /o\

maha.7902:

Iris Ng.9845:

maha.7902:

Iris Ng.9845:

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

well what other game mode do you think this thread could be about, when it’s stuck in to the fractals and dungeons forum?

No need to be hypersensitive. I don’t intend to open any debate over every single game modes here.

Besides the part where you make it blatantly obvious that you have a burning urge to reference the e$port game mode.

well let me save you the time, mesmers aren’t overpowered there either. or WvW.

and nobody here in this subforum cares about helseth or sizer or whoever the randoms are who play pretend e$ports are.

Why are you so salty? Really? Just want to stir up an argument with me and then ostracize me with “this forum doesn’t need your opinions on… etc”? Oh the off topic….

How cute! Just stop reading between the lines.

Sarahfull.4930:

Engi: overpowered shot

I would prefer Net Shot to Overcharged Shot. Both have their uses and I love them dearly. But Net Shot is truly underrated in PvP. Then I also love Slick Shoes for its ridiculously long CC duration. Using them against the Golems in Aetherblade fractal or against the Kitty Golems are so much fun! And not forget about our Elixir elite <3

maha.7902:

Iris Ng.9845:

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

well what other game mode do you think this thread could be about, when it’s stuck in to the fractals and dungeons forum?

Mesmer has no skills that would be considered triviallizing an encounter, or namely “overpowered”. If you say Feedback can nuke Lupi then Wall of Reflection could do the same thing. Is it overpowered enough to guarantee a nerf (which happens to to skills such as FGS, ice bow, black powder or healing signet)? Nope, I think not.

Untraited Warden used to be borderline overpowered. Right now none of the mesmer skills are worth called overpowered, in PvE.

No need to be hypersensitive. I don’t intend to open any debate over every single game modes here.

I made both Bifrost and Incinerator and still prefer Bifrost over Inci for it looks better with my ele. Do I get the most use out of them? Not really. I have all my weapons skinned differently for easy weapon swapping so they only get used 25% of the time. But they are there for picture time or any sort of costume setup. So go with the skin which you like to see most frequently.

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

Edit: Be assured that my words are expressed as literally as possible to avoid maha’s unnecessary OCD.

squat the forum bug!

Go watch Song of the Sea! No excuse, really. Even if you are like me, watching it again and again just to listen to Lisa Hanningan’s singing voice. It’s a really good animation.

How’s about Saoirse The Selkie? More Norn-ic yet?

Speaking of SR, have you watched Byzantium starring Saoirse and Gemma? Hot!