Guild Wars 2

The insults and attacks are not local in a single thread. If I read across all the new threads, the heavy atmosphere is suffocating.

My opinions

Your setup assumes:

• 100% group melee up time during burn and close to 100% during the whole encounter.
• Breaking defiance bar is minimally necessary.
• All attacks are blockable or semi-blockable or reflect-able (unlike burning dart, poison dart, oil, tar puddles, etc.)
• No second mechanisms that discourage immobile stacking (broken floor, canon spread, etc).
• Rez-ing is easy.
• Boss has low HP, medium toughness, no reflect or likewise doesn’t cleanse conditions.
• Boss is stationary most of the time (unlike a certain jumpy Mordrem Tegariff).
• Boss can be kited with chill, crippled, immobilization, slow, etc.
• Boss doesn’t have evade built-in skill sets (unlike a certain Revenant-mimicking pet).
• Boss has no invuln phases (unlike a certain ugly tree).
• Boss has limited numbers of CC (unlike perma daze, stun, meat-grinding lockdown)
• Boss has no quickness (holy guacamole!)

Umm… I’m probably gonna wait until farm status :>

By the look of it, I don’t think so. It’s not like I want another bag of gears either

Rising Dusk.2408:

Jerus.4350:

Though I will say… all I did was ask a 6 month old unanswered question…

…in an entirely unrelated thread. Maybe we should keep feedback on a 6 month old unanswered question in topics dedicated to that question.

I agree.

Jerus.4350:

Nokaru.7831:

It just makes me a bit sad to see new developers popping up enthusiastically around here and seeing them shot down by what they might perceive as their target audience. I’m not saying to be hyped, or getting your hopes up. Just remember though that these are people though that (I think) might give you the best shot at the content you want.

They do it to themselves. This policy of silence doesn’t work. They want us to be as hyped as they are, maybe talk to us a bit, not just a blog post here and there, but actually give us responses on issues in the game. I think most of us are smart enough to understand that some things just won’t be addressed instantly, some things are tricky and may take months to properly fix. That’s fine. And maybe they change their plans and tweak things in ways that are different from what they originally said, again, fine. But, communication is key.

Let us know! kitten, I mean really, how hard is it to write a patch note that something is changing? How hard is it to jump on the forum and type up a quick message? For kittens sake they’re creating the resentment themselves. Respect is a two way thing, I’m not going to give a kitten about someone’s feeling that doesn’t give a kitten about me, that’s just dumb. I wish each individual developer the best, but honestly ANet as a whole, kitten you.

Does having a forum specialist mean nothing for you? Ask Dusk if the information was bottlenecked between his and the devs’ communication, or between the devs, or between him and other forum posters. If things are not communicated directly from the dev to the players, it’s fair to assume that things are neither official nor set in stone nor ever be written in a patch note.

I think you are drunk and raging against a wrong person. Cool off.

You don’t care about what the dev says anymore? Fine. Can you step out and let others welcome him? because I’m still interested in what else to be learnt from the devs.

Jerus.4350:

dlonie.6547:

NikeEU.7690:

It’s so sad a dev pops in here to say hi in a friendly way and they are deluged with the usual litany of QQ tears and angry accusations and questions about bugs that are blatantly obviously low priorities. For once can a dev post here without the woe-is-me pity party agenda being pushed?

I apparently missed the woe-is-me posts. What are you referring to? Were some posts deleted?

Shhh, he’s trying to be cool.

Apparently I also happen to see a lot of people are forming an angry mob to attack a poor dev who just wants to open a communication. He’s probably passionate enough to try to appease the crowd but I doubt it he would have been still excited to talk about what he has been working on. If anything, I love to hear tidbits about the new content. I want to be hyped up, I want something to look forward to. I don’t want all this excitement to get buried in aggressive argument loop about some age-old contents that are obviously informed to be of low priorities. Stop, please! Do all of you seriously religiously play 26 paths of dungeons and 4 fractal dailies every day and keep doing so until after HoT releases? Think again. What do you really look forward to? Something new to play or someone (new) to blame because you don’t have anything else better to do.

Again, I want to see more red posts. I want to see more positive discussion that ends in a happy note. I want to see less accusation, less knee-jerk reactions and insults (similar to this one - Holy batman, it’s so immature that it’s painful to read!). Even if I don’t have any meaningful things to post, I want to take comfort in reading other posters’ opinions. Please, please, it’s my selfish request to ask you guys as a posting community in this sub-forum to make my wish happen.

tl;dr – less salt, more cookie.

Disclaimer: Posters are not obligated to act maturely and talk nice per requests of some no-body.

thrag, stop being nuts and post your bug/exploit report in an appropriate thread and subforum. Spamming the same thing everywhere doesn’t create solutions. It’s annoying.

The bank is copied the moment you create your first beta character. So the deadline is determined by you yourself.

My necro loves UW. Feels so powerful <3

Thanks for the heads up, Christ!

I know someone is super delirious with the news. A friend of mine made an eternity and a mjolnir just for this beta weekend!

spoj.9672:

I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

It’s something and I welcome it. Time surely flies fast!

Lord Kuru.3685:

Nokaru.7831:

It just makes me a bit sad to see new developers popping up enthusiastically around here and seeing them shot down by what they might perceive as their target audience. I’m not saying to be hyped, or getting your hopes up. Just remember though that these are people though that (I think) might give you the best shot at the content you want.

It doesn’t help that he’s hyping up fractal and guild mission “revamps” when by all indications, it’s more like “reorganization.”

Also, rereading his post… he said the raid will come out after HoT launches? I was pretty sure they originally said it would come at release. And what’s coming out shortly after release isn’t even the entire raid, but only a few wings? Was something announced recently that I missed?

Nope. It was announced in a couple of streams ago that raids will come out after launch so that people don’t have to rush through the new content (new class, specialization, mastery, etc.) to get ready for raids. It is very understandable since not everyone are people with no life.

@Cameron: it’s really great to see your presence in this forum. Welcome!

@All: people seem to only remembers stuff by the categories they were tied to. What if, hey, hear me out. What if we counted the number of challenging content by encounters that are not traditionally named as dungeons-fractals-raids before deciding that the game developers have been slacking in their delivery? Like,

- The Gauntlets
- Two full instanced paths which are not named dungeons: Molten Facility and Aetherblade Retreat
- Halloween: Ascent to Madness
- The defense against Aetherblade after Bazaar of the Four Winds
- SAB
- Living story with Challenge Motes

I use Mace+Torch/ Scepter+ Focus (Radiance/Honor/Virtue) in a bad pug where mostly I have to solo p3. The Mace adds an extra block since I have no energy sigil. Save yourself instead of Retreat for a wee bit better reflect damage.

When and where did they say that nerfing the icebow will bring out more challenge from old content?

The nerf is justified. If you feel that it doesn’t affect your normal activity in any ways then it’s a fairly balanced nerf. Get over it.

Remember when they nerfed FGS-sama?

Happy new name “Fractals, Dungeons and Raids”!

Taku.6352:

UBcktieDL.5318:

Taku.6352:

Ranger is pretty much warrior 2.0 with the downside that storm spirit might not be at its optimal use if capping vuln. But all in all this patch alone has been pretty much the best patch for PvE rangers and makes it a serious choice for “speedruns” and maybe even record runs.

Warrior is still useful for might and banners. I would be more worried about elementalist since they are primarily taken for DPS. They have some serious alternatives now with ranger and engineer. Ranger now stacks vuln and swiftness even better than ele and engi does overall more damage with the same vuln stacking and can provide additional stealth.

It could also mean bad times for thief getting replaced by ranger/engi.

I didn’t say warrior would be replaced, more like ditch one ele and a thief for engi and ranger for a new “meta” comp.

Also there’s no reason to nerf whao. The random boon spam builds you see in pvp now are completely garbage and only works against complete knoblets. Yea sure it’s nice to have lots of quickness, might, fury and so on but in order to do that you’d have to take pretty meh trait lines dmg wise and it’s so ridiculously easy to counter with a necro or a mesmer that it will never be competitive.
This buff actually makes all 3 ranger heals usable in all game modes and have a good synergy with their associated traits.

No, it’s not meh. A skilled power ranger with perma protection, regen, quickness, vigor, might and his kitten OP pet is very very hard to counter. Ranger isn’t the one-shot class, and plays more of the pressure role. All of their utilities are weak and that’s where all their traits ought to be defensive. Case in point, I was in a high-profile match last night in NA. My team has three power rangers, 1 thief, 1 engi and the other team is a meta comp- necro, mes, thief, guard x2, ele. My team only lost by 50 points different considered having only one point holder. When a shatter mes cannot one-shot a power ranger from stealth, or a cele necro gets forced to reset off point, it’s pretty cancer.

Also sighting p/p thief in the 2v2 tourney and it’s pretty kitten aids.

Five (or actually more?) percent matters – assuming ascended equipment includes all armor, weapons, trinkets. There is an increase in stats, weapon attack and defense rating.

So you admit that reflect and/or projectile defense are necessary?

The stealth and oneshot part. Is it meta now?

You probably need reflect in AC p2 and p3 at last boss, SE all paths, COF p2, CoE (icebrood, golems) and you don’t need stealth in Arah.

If you want to know where reflect is needed, play a staff ele in a zero-reflect group and always aggro first. Then count the number of time you have to interrupt your rotation for Magnetic Aura and dodge. If you can comfortably solo Bloomhunger many times as a staff ele then yeah, you can safely assume that reflect isn’t needed in any dungeons.

We Heal as One is gonna need to be nerfed a bit. Like, capping the duration of certain buff transfer.

SlyDevil.3952:

Bukkebruse.2810:

IE never

Old content is having basic break bars being put in with HoT.

Iris Ng.9845:

The longer the duration of the CC, the faster the breakbar will get consumed. Also the breakbar is only available at a certain time, like right before a big attack. So it depends on how fast you can pull off your CC. Thief is still great with Basilisk Venom + Headshot.

This will be confusing when the bars get released, does a 3sec stun take off twice as much as a 1.5 sec? What about a 3sec daze? or a 6sec chill? 6 sec cripple? immobilize? is a 750 knockback twice as much as a 375, how does a knockback compare to a pull, daze, fear?

I have no ideas how they are gonna rate soft CC over the breakbar consumption. But for hard CC, the duration of the disabled effect matters. I could imagine knockback range hardly has any effects.

Quaggan’s deep thought:
Quaggan could roleplay as a Mursaat if quaggan is a tad slimmer.

The longer the duration of the CC, the faster the breakbar will get consumed. Also the breakbar is only available at a certain time, like right before a big attack. So it depends on how fast you can pull off your CC. Thief is still great with Basilisk Venom + Headshot.

I used to have this Guardian archetype come to my LFG pug acting all important. He then ate dirt half of the time we fought Mossman. Then came Cliffside, he would get rekt by Archie repeatedly. Finally when we killed the boss, he would walk up to get the chest and then left us with the saltiest remark ever: “Trash group, zero DPS”.

It’s like a deja`-vu when I keep seeing this event over and over in these recent months. Sometimes it’s an ele, sometimes a guard, a thief or a warrior. It sucks that meta builds can’t teach people to get good or at least, not to be a dumb kitten.

Bountiful Power.

Especially when your group has a guard. Decent and/or random Aegis and Quickness buff makes Arcane really worth it. In a trio with a Guard? Consider Arcane. Arcane today!

OMG, no flame axe opening this time? I was so looking forward to it :’(

Why didn’t I make an asura ranger!

Evapor.6849:

You don’t love whack a mole balance and how happy the guy was for reducing the amount of decent utilities available? It would be nice if they change how icestorm works or at least let it chill on each, but I suppose effectively removing it from the game is just as good in the balance team’s eyes

First, Ice Bow is not decent. It’s oppressive to the point that ele is the only class highly favored in PvE. There is very little skill involved in ice bow and people are simply drunk on its high damage. The nerf is fully justified.

Second, because it’s a nerf, there will be people not happy with the solution. There will be technical limits which prohibit more elaborate re-work of the skills. There will be a shortage of personel on the matter at hands. Things like Isaiah’s Balance happen. So get over it. If you’re not happy, make your suggestion loud and clear and hopefully after the expansion launchs and the dev team has properly rested, new better solution will come out.

Third, it’s okay to be unhappy with something, especially you have been investing a decent chunk of your life to it. However, I’m getting tired at people antagonizing the developer team as a whole and making a condescending remark at their production capability. It’s childish. (The dev team) certainly don’t want to make bad skills, or a product that couldn’t sell. They don’t nerf a skill just to be smug and evil.

A moment to appreciate Isaiah’s White Boards.

Thaddeus.4891:

Iris Ng.9845:

Icebow itself is still a huge amount of cleave against elite trash mob. It will still be there to carry DPS against structures and large hit-box foes. It also stacks quite a bit of vuln. It will be useful, just moving from essential to optional.

Doudt it. Like I said. If they really nerf it by 50% Just using Laval Front on cooldown will be better and Laval front hit 5 targets, not 3 like the Ice Storm will. So I see no situation where Icebow will be usefull except for skill 5. Laval Front will still have better DPS against structure and large hit box foes since the math I did was if all 24 attacks for the Icebow hit.

When I said it carries, it’s for the classes that have minimal cleaves or against target that are moving or too scattered for lava font. Case in point:
1. Wolves in Mossman fractal: mesmer and thief are generally bad at cleaving them down.
2. Lava elementals in Grawl Shaman fractal: thief/war are not stellar at cleaving these guys down. Especially against the lava, I always have to use every aoe possible (Meteor Shower + Lightning Storm + Ice bow) if it’s up to me alone to cleave all the adds down asap – think trio, etc.
3. The Molten mob + Smoke Shaman at the end of the tunnel in Molten Facility. Blind is not applied fast and spreads wide enough to neutralize them. As well as Interruption. Or Aegis (lol!). Or Distortion. We’re looking at pulling multiple cleaves in a short instance to nuke them all, or simply pull a couple of them at a time.

Please don’t forget there are two copies of Ice bow and it has 24 impacts, each impact hit 3 targets. Now compare with Lava Font which hits 5 targets and Fire Ball which hits 3 targets per impact. The point of bringing conjures after the balance patch is to compensate the DPS of certain utility classes and nothing more than that.

Oh and if you’re talking about competitive speed run where every seconds matter then disregard everything I said.

Icebow itself is still a huge amount of cleave against elite trash mob. It will still be there to carry DPS against structures and large hit-box foes. It also stacks quite a bit of vuln. It will be useful, just moving from essential to optional.

Wethospu.6437:

Currently all AI can not move and attack at the same time unless it’s built into the anim.

Hopefully raids don’t turn into kite wars.

They already solve this problem by making all the Mordrem boss immune to chill, immobilization and cripple.

By the way, have you tried fully melee the Mordrem Tegariff boss in the Tangled Root episode? I’m really curious about how you could tackle such a bullkitten boss the usual way.

thrag.9740:

Iris Ng.9845:

2. In the case the boss cannot be deep frozen or rooted, moving (small hit box) bosses inside the ice storm aoe take a considerably more damage than stationary bosses. So the same suggestion wouldn’t be really a nerf to ice bow damage.

Arn’t where the blobs of ice fall random? A moving boss seems just as likely to decrease its damage taken by moving within the aoe, as it is to increase it. Obviously if the boss moves out of the aoe it will take less damage. Am I missing something?

I would say the density of the impacts will more likely increase the damage if the target moving within the aoe. It’s also less likely for the same spot to be hit multiple times since you have a bigger aoe and same numbers of shards. You can observe it yourself by having Mossman chilled, run towards you inside the ice storm, or going to PvP and ask someone icebow you.

thrag.9740:

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I’m sorry, but Nemesis has a point, and in all of everyone’s rantings and ravings I have yet to see it disproved.

What point are you referring to?

The part where he claimed everyone line casts? Seriously, I’ve done about 500 dungeon runs and 100 fractal runs in the past 6 months. No one line casts. It is way too unreliable.

Because you pug?

Can you link the official confirmation pls?

Can someone clarify me this point fast?

• Is the crafted precursor (of the current Tyrian legendary weapons) account-bound?
• Is the legendary weapon made from the crafted precursor account-bound?

Things I know so far is that both crafted precursors and legendary weapons of the Maguuma set are account-bound.

deSade.9437:

Gav.1425:

They might as well just limit the raids to 5 people.

I don’t have 9 friends anyways.

Gather your fans, cat and your cat’s friends. I heard cat makes a good DPS for when you play druid.

Wethospu.6437:

Standard pug business in my yesterday’s SE story run. No banners, icebows, might or anything.

Except when we reach the end boss, Iron Forgeman…

Suddenly there are ice bows all over the place. So they clearly knew the skill exists but why they use it only when it has no real use?

It’s like my lazy habit of not using Time Warp anywhere but the final boss :>

@Wethospu: We have a raid pug party in the coming weekend beta event. You are cordially invited!

I expect the new druid to yell at people: stop dying!

1. Isn’t increasing the ice bow hit box not gonna affect line-casting and roof-casting in any meaningful way? There are some spots in sPvP and WvW maps where you can point cast an enemy because of the ridiculously compressed line of sight and fenced terrains. Examples in PvE are already aplenty, so I’m pretty sure it affects all the game mode.

2. In the case the boss cannot be deep frozen or rooted, moving (small hit box) bosses inside the ice storm aoe take a considerably more damage than stationary bosses. So the same suggestion wouldn’t be really a nerf to ice bow damage.

3. Currently, Meteor Shower is the only reliable way to kill siege weapons in WvW. Increasing Ice bow aoe will make it another one in the list without really killing its effectiveness. And there are two ice bows to share with everyone!

4. Considering most (shown) future raid bosses will be huge in models, here comes my silly question: how huge is the hit box to be considered large?

Kordash.2197:

If “can’t just dodge to survive” is like the pistol shot or Mai Trinn, i mean using a block utility to avoid it, or either blasting water fields in a coordinated manner, i’m fine with it. If it’s forcing us to wear Cleric’s or Nomad’s or any combo stat, kitten YOU DEVS, you’re going against the first idea you sold us with the game.

More akin to the Laser wall in the Aetherblade fractal (minus the platform), or the spinning fire attack of Sparki which can quickly stack 20 stacks of Burning to any melee attackers. The latter attack is similar to Old Tom’s poison spin, but more deadly due to how OP Burning is currently. They are both unblockable and dodge-exhausting.

In both cases I mention, you are required to break the combat and move around or take shelter. You can hide behind your pet but what if your pet cannot outlast the attack for you to burn the boss down? Hmm… quaggan’s deep thought.

How’s about 1 straight DPS group, 1 condi group, 1 mobility group. The mobility group is in charge of tear down any defensive mechanisms (like the wall surrounding from the boss for instance?). The DPS group will hug your PSEA warrior + Quickness/Aclarity bot + Frost/Spotter whatever, while the Condi group operates as roamers on their own. Because seriously, condi classes like engi/ranger doesn’t really need external buff. They are quite efficient on their own with Quickness, low CD skills, Might, and what not.

Wedding outfit on my sylvari mesmer.

Now, if you’re gonna compare D/F ele with Reaper then also talk about their comparable damage. In the current form, D/F ele is fun to play but its damage is just much worse than a reaper. The more defense you add (Arcane Shield, ha!; Mist form? LOL) the more pitiable it gets.

@Jerus: Shadow Fiend is another pseudo-projectile block. Next week you even have Corrupted Poison Cloud. Even your elite shout is such a sweet defense against elite trash mobs in a short CD as well. What’s more? Necro has unblockable attacks.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Iris Ng.9845:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

So, just read up on dulfy and saw this:

“Upcoming content will have stuff that you can’t just dodge to survive.”

Necro still didn’t get any active defenses for himself, right? I.e. I’d need to be carried even harder by my team?

You got a block on reaper soul and a blind on gsword at the very least.

Welp, a block is not much, but at least something. Blind is… well, if trash will be the main offender (which is unlikely) then it’s helpful, if it’s bosses it won’t have much effect anyway/will be way to unreliable (except they changed the blind success rate too?)

Then compare it to the ele. How is it that make you feel inferior in terms of active defense? That block isnt a single attack block either. It’s a channeling skill.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

So, just read up on dulfy and saw this:

“Upcoming content will have stuff that you can’t just dodge to survive.”

Necro still didn’t get any active defenses for himself, right? I.e. I’d need to be carried even harder by my team?

You got a block on reaper soul and a blind on gsword at the very least.

I drool over the wyrvern (x__x)

Macro for life :^)

~~Crafting 700 lodes a night~~~

I save my thought for until I see both the new and reworked encounters. I like what Calmon-Huang does with the Engineer so far. His ideas are bold and unusual with a direct concern to the active combat. At a glance, the healing from Druid seems to be the strongest out of the conventional means. I think it has flavor and potential.

I’m actually making weapons for sale daily using my tokens now. They give a good steady income. I can also make use of multiple currencies across different accounts.

Wethospu.6437:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Strength_Booster

Heaven forbids you use a cash shop booster to maximize your damage. It’s not like you can easily obtain it by converting the plethora of useless boosters with enchantment powder – and that’s some 10 silvers there. But, gosh, what are we gonna do without our Experience booster in our upcoming Mastery grind? Besides, I strongly think that it’s lame to post your own solo videos when you use gemstore boosters (tear-watering expensive food and infusions are fine, tho!). In that light, we also need to train our newbies a good habit of not using the boosters at all for their upright future.

#It’sBeyondMyComprehension