Guild Wars 2

F2P account works, too.

Apparently, necro has gain some very nice (unintended) utilitity https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3o7t0z/mai_trins_cannons_are_corroded/

I speculate that it would work at Old Tom? Ventari’s tablet works at Old Tom but not the cannon phase.

You need your own Doppelganger, like Abe did in his solo video x)

Lendruil.9061:

Iris Ng.9845:

• Have they fixed the glitch when you can zip through the dorm room in Thaumanova and get the cooling rod without the need to rescue the Inquests?

This is not a bug but some lazy workaround. In higher levels you have to complete all 4 rooms of thaumanova for beeing able to fight the endboss. If you fail the prisoner-room however, it would no longer be possible to finish the fractal.
In lower levels, the door to the cooling rod is not yet open, and if you fail the event then you cannot longer complete it. This won’t stop progress, because you dont have to clear all 4 rooms in lower levels anyway.

No no, I know what you mean, but that is not what I mean. For once, I think if you fail the dorm part, you can’t get the cooling rod. But what I witnessed is a friend of mine ran into the room, triggered the event, took the cooling rod and got out right away. The event timer was still running but we already got the credit for that part (1/4 on the screen). However, our group just didn’t stop to do the event at all, and all the inquests died eventually and we got no debuff.

What surprises me is how he got that cooling rod and even the credit when the 4 Inquests were still alive. I have never been told about it.

Reaper does have a solid trait line and all of them actually look useful depending on situations. Against a big HP pool boss like the Vale Guardian I can see myself going for Chill of Death for more passive damage proc when he drops to below 50% HP, and maybe Chilling Victory if we have Spotter/Fury/Banner in the group. Without warhorn or staff, life force looks a bit tight on a Reaper if you don’t (obviously) pick Blighter’s Boon either. To sum up my experience, I like to play around with traits based on encounters, and Reaper seems to fulfill my demands – not to Chrono extend, but close

Jerus.4350:

Rising Dusk.2408:

I did an L50 Fractal with CPC on my Necro recently and it felt like a dream. Me? Managing projectiles? You mean the harpies in uncategorized don’t rek me? I can contribute meaningfully to Grawl boss?

It was a strange feeling.

With Reaper you even get RS 2, though be very very careful on harpies

Chain CC them, and they are toast!

• It’s rare but sometimes Bloomhunger’s Poison Rain projectiles shoot the ground under Feedback and hit anything in the blast radius.

• Not sure if it’s a bug but sometimes Grawl Shaman (last boss) resets to the middle and heals himself to full when kited to the edge of the area.

• Have they fixed the glitch when you can zip through the dorm room in Thaumanova and get the cooling rod without the need to rescue the Inquests?

• Seen from Sandy’s post, assuming that it was a temporarily bugfix, but can you still glitch the wolves of Mossman at a fixed spawn location?

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Been a while since someone insisted on stacking under the pillar.

Wow I feel like I just visited a museum. FGS nerf is about the same age to us as it was to that spot.

I was in a casual tour and the host insisted on stacking at that pillar. Somehow they pulled The Howling King instead of Colossus. The beast beamed through the stacking spot. I dodged out, the rest of the party instantly wiped. I laughed so hard. The worst thing is the boss didn’t reset when they came back from waypoint; so the spot was swamped with all the Gravelings and they couldn’t stack anymore.

nacario.9417:

I joined a f50 metazerk on my PS warr, everything optimized but was running rifle. I did pretty well, didnt die n kept that might up, while a thief kept dying which was ok as he didnt have the best support from us. On the last frac boss with that green monster (cant rememb name) i had to rifle the tendrils n thief goes angry cuz rifle wasnt metazerk as advertised. But we finished in 45 mins time

I would cringe at the sight of a rifle warrior but I will forgive you if you’re in my pug, because I hate to see people yolo and die to the tentacle much more. It’s everyone on their own at Jade Maw.

rotten.9753:

You said something about perma vigour and I pointed that you cannot achieve that without cantrips because renewing stamina was nerfed by 50%.

Fried Golden Dumpling
Bountiful Sharpening Stone

PvE is such a beautiful place.

Auesis.7301:

MasterBlaster.6827:

dlonie.6547:

Iris Ng.9845:

dlonie.6547:

Did anyone test Headshot on a breakerbar? How bad was it?

I love my thief, but yeah, it sounds like they won’t really be bringing much to raids. Much sad.

I heard from [SC] that staff Daredevil is quite good. /summon Tobi and Nat.

ears perk up

Really? M-m-my thief? He’s not…dead?

Don’t toy with me like this.

Staff 2 is about the same dmg as a sub 25% HS, you get a 29,5% modifier instead of the 15% initiative modifier and your dodges will deal around 15k. So yes, daredevil <3

Didn’t test it myself, but the staff auto is apparently doing more dmg than dagger auto as well.

I tested the Staff auto. It loops one sequence (Staff Strike -> Staff Bash -> Punishing Strikes -> repeat) every 2.04 seconds, while Dagger and Sword are at 2.07 and 2.52 for their chains respectively. On top of this, it also hits harder than Sword by about 10% in total.

So along with all the damage modifiers from Daredevil’s traitline, it’s the absolute best damage weapon Thieves will have in the game by a large margin. It’s going to be the raid go-to.

Alright, I admit now I’m interested.

rotten.9753:

Iris Ng.9845:

Which depends on the skill of your tank. How’s about learning from better players?

Tank, keq.

Maybe instead of copying tactics from few first successful tries you should try figuring it by yourself? I recall “better players” ranging lupicus back in a day because that’s how it was done by the first few teams.

Notice until the first split, the boss hardly moved? And they finished the first phase in only 2 minutes.

Only? That’s about 6k dps per a team member.

Back in the days, smart people actually watched better players like this one guy to learn how to melee Lupicus. And those guys are actually in guilds who don’t use pug tactics and instead educate others to use a more efficient way. Please don’t put yourself in the denial state.

After the first split, did the boss really move around at all?

Let’s compare it with NA’s first kill with 1:50 minutes until the split. Are you gonna use the 6k DPS per team member card? Is it truly the highest DPS number will win the raid? Laughable!

rotten.9753:

Iris Ng.9845:

Good job on deflecting the point of this discussion and cherry picking on the effectiveness of the trait.

Let’s go back from the start, shall we?

I quoted you once and you brought back an entire discussion… If you cannot understand that, I’ll try to make it easier.

You said something about perma vigour and I pointed that you cannot achieve that without cantrips because renewing stamina was nerfed by 50%. You also were gloating how earthen proxy is such a decent trait for tanking and I pointed out it’s a pretty bad trait.

Earthen Proxy gives 40% damage reduction under protection. As a tempest, you have very good boon duration, on top of protection on Aura. If your group has one or two Herald, it’s almost settled on the permanent effect of this trait. A full zerker staff ele got hit by the auto Magic Aura of the Vale Guardian for 1.96k .

A full cele ele gets hit for 1.48k, a full rabid ele gets hit for 1.32k (damage reduction by toughness alone). With Protection, a full cele ele gets hit for 1.04k, a full rabid ele gets hit for ~920. With Earthen Proxy+ Protection, a full cele ele gets hit for ~888, a full rabid ele gets hit for ~792. These numbers can be reasonably sustained with Passive Regen and Heal.

Now, please back up your point instead of just your usual one-liner.

It’s fine and dandy not to use any of those sustain traits when you are able to assume a DPS role. But when you are hand picked (by the boss) to tank, your option is to adapt or reroll (ragequit? lol). Since the OP asked how to tank when you are not a bunker guardian, I provided him plentiful options an ele can have in his/her kitten nal. You can go deeply to Water/Earth-or-Arcane/Tempest and be virtually immortal or you can shed some of those defense for hybrid damage. Tempest has perma vigor if you want to push it that far and that’s where it can even outshine a bunker guard. If you and Karl think the trait is weak and need buffs, sure, I’ll be more than happy to go with its stronger version. Just to point out how the utility those traits provide is best fit for the raid situation. For the record, our raid group went as far as 33% with two and a half minute left on the timer. We wiped because a stupid mistake with the lightning AoE, but the point is, I know how effective Tempest as a tank-kiter can be from my first hand experience. I don’t have any screenshots or VoD to prove it, but you can contact any of my raid team members (APeX members, Trackful, AK) to verify our positive experience.

rotten.9753:

Iris Ng.9845:

Latent Stamina

You brought into the discussion both traits that even Karl considers “not strong enough”. How desperate are you?

Good job on deflecting the point of this discussion and cherry picking on the effectiveness of the trait.

Let’s go back from the start, shall we?

Iris Ng.9845:

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in controlling the aggro of the Vale Guardian without the actual need to change classes/ comp? Anything that could trigger the aggro? From my own experience, the first group I was with had a cleric Guard and a cele Revenant, the boss decided to pick me, a zerker staff ele. So I had to swap to Rabid Tempest in order to kite him and do DPS.

Neko.9021:

It should be noted that since someone has to run a tank build in order to kite the boss around with highest armor, a Cele Ele would not actually be a bad choice at all. One group did it with a Cele Guardian. I’m sure Cele Ele would be OK.

SkiTz.4590:

Don’t think Cele ele has access to the blocks/reflects and utilties that guardian has…not to mention the naturally higher armor total….

Don’t see a logical reason a light armor/lowest HP should be tanking over other heavies in your squad lol….

Iris Ng.9845:

What do you need Reflect for? And no, Block will be periodically destroyed by the boss’ auto Magic Aura. Higher armor doesn’t really matter if you intend to soak up the Seeker’s damage: You’ll die! You still need to avoid colliding against the Seeker to the minimum: like, strafe left-right, pull them together then dodge over. On the other hand, you can dodge over the blue teleport aoe at the last minute to avoid the boss moving too much. So perma Vigor is much more preferred than high armor.

Have you seen the sustain that a cele ele can pump out compared to a cleric guard in a PvP match? Ele can get a high up time of Protection and Regen. With Tempest, you are looking at 40% damage reduction with aura/protection. You have yourself Might and Fury. You have your own Rebound, which you can share with your DPS allies during Bullet Storm, too. You also have plenty of blast finisher to coordinate a water blast with your engi.

Since you don’t need any of the Reflect/Block/Stability (yet), it’s pretty much a fair game to have a cele ele tank/kite the boss.

Snowball.3497:

Now I do agree with the general opinion that the elementalist role gets outshined by others.
The two strongest positions I’ve found is either play as the ‘tank’ to keep the vale guardians aggro or as a fresh air tempest for moderate damage on the move.

rotten.9753:

I think you might have missed the last patch notes or you plan on using cantrips as well.

Either way, earthen proxy isn’t something I would have brought into a discussion.

rotten.9753:

Iris Ng.9845:

I’m not sure what do you imply by “missing patch notes” and using “cantrips”. Earthen Proxy is exactly what I used when assuming the tank role.

This part:

So perma Vigor is much more preferred than high armor.

Iris Ng.9845:

Latent Stamina

rotten.9753:

Ganathar.4956:

“Eles have everything”.

Like relying on stationary enemies which you can’t even cripple.

Which depends on the skill of your tank. How’s about learning from better players?

Snowball.3497:

To get some perspective on ele in raids I’ve uploaded a short video of my attempts;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAB8Nv_Nem0

Now I do agree with the general opinion that the elementalist role gets outshined by others.
The two strongest positions I’ve found is either play as the ‘tank’ to keep the vale guardians aggro or as a fresh air tempest for moderate damage on the move.

Notice until the first split, the boss hardly moved? And they finished the first phase in only 2 minutes.

Latent Stamina

dlonie.6547:

Did anyone test Headshot on a breakerbar? How bad was it?

I love my thief, but yeah, it sounds like they won’t really be bringing much to raids. Much sad.

I heard from [SC] that staff Daredevil is quite good. /summon Tobi and Nat.

In Cliffside, there is a chance that Archie goes invulnerable without dropping the hammer. You need to wait for him to heal up and damage him again to spawn the hammer. Not sure what causes it.

It doesn’t really block progress (since you can work around by chain-rezing Ellen) but it still makes the puzzle no longer deactivated.

The laser puzzle when you turn the panels off before it triggers?

Add: Unblockable attack, unblockable CC, strong snare, pull, solid 5+-target cleave and bodyblocking. To top it off, a very simple rotation and ease of play.

rotten.9753:

Iris Ng.9845:

What do you need Reflect for? And no, Block will be periodically destroyed by the boss’ auto Magic Aura. Higher armor doesn’t really matter if you intend to soak up the Seeker’s damage: You’ll die! You still need to avoid colliding against the Seeker to the minimum: like, strafe left-right, pull them together then dodge over. On the other hand, you can dodge over the blue teleport aoe at the last minute to avoid the boss moving too much. So perma Vigor is much more preferred than high armor.

Have you seen the sustain that a cele ele can pump out compared to a cleric guard in a PvP match? Ele can get a high up time of Protection and Regen. With Tempest, you are looking at 40% damage reduction with aura/protection. You have yourself Might and Fury. You have your own Rebound, which you can share with your DPS allies during Bullet Storm, too. You also have plenty of blast finisher to coordinate a water blast with your engi.

Since you don’t need any of the Reflect/Block/Stability (yet), it’s pretty much a fair game to have a cele ele tank/kite the boss.

I think you might have missed the last patch notes or you plan on using cantrips as well.

Either way, earthen proxy isn’t something I would have brought into a discussion.

I’m not sure what do you imply by “missing patch notes” and using “cantrips”. Earthen Proxy is exactly what I used when assuming the tank role.

@Particlar: Well done. It’s quite pleasantly assuring to see you using the same staff setup as mine. The lack of fury troubled me into choosing between Lightning Flash and Signet of Fire, also between Glyph Pet and Rebound when running the AoE duty. I think staff ele only shines when aggro is properly maintained, like how your group did during the first phase of the boss. Very impressive!

Im Mudbone.1437:

I just destroy all that useless inventory/storage hogging crap since we can’t AT LEAST salvage the crap.

Why do you think I hoard them? Because we WILL be able to salvage them.

I wish I could have at least 10 of every types.

There are already some skills that have split version between PvE and PvP. Then there are also some split reverted back to the original version when the traits and/or skills were redone. To this day, I have no clue how to keep track of those and it’s a confusing mess. Now imagine what if they want to split the damage calculation of Burning between PvE and PvP. It would be a real chore to modify their code on the server as it would affect everything that deals Burning damage. It’s also irritatingly difficult to test out your damage without a proper PvE dummy site. There will be a lot of back and forth discussion (read: riot) and QA tests regarding tuning the damage alone.. However, I’m sure the dev will eventually get their hands on the balance matters when they don’t have any new contents to develop.

NOIP.1208:

Iris Ng.9845:

“Hey ele, are you zerker?” -“Yup” -“Can you ping your weapons please?” -“[Incinerator][Incinerator]”. The group started clamoring “So, you want us to ping our stuff huh?”, “#DungeonRunSeriousBusiness”, “Why asking for zerker when you play ranger…”. By then, I calmly told them “How’s about you all check out her weapons before flaming me? Her legendary doesn’t even have any selected stats and her transmuted one is actually from TA and not zerker… Excuse me for asking people to respect my LFG!”. It

you do know that items with selected stats like legendaries dont show the current stats they are using right? it only shows sigils

I was half expected it was the case and was readily giving the ele a benefit of doubt if not irritated by the sudden surge of whiteknighting from the other pugs. Ele didn’t even bother explaining herself any further, nor swapping weapons, builds etc for the later part of the run. At that point I just concluded that I rolled a bad number of the dice and had three lying pugs joining my party for a free ride. Oh, and the Incinerator had no sigil – I suspect the ele just got the legendary and wanted to use it right away or so. That’s why I don’t trust her as a zerker but I didn’t say it to my group either.

@Oxidia: The feeling is mutual. Peace.

@Snoring Sleepwalker.9073: The most challenge of all to me is playing with friends who belittle the PvE content, yet don’t have what it takes to low man it. They think Dungeons and Fractals are easy but always ask for pug even though we are 3-4 people. They think that I try too hard with my LFG, I’m toxic to pug and that my advice to them is condescending and makes them look like kittens. Yet they are annoyed if I keep quiet, do my own stuff and let them die in confusion. Then they become mad at me when I ragequit (“Wanna do another [xxx]?” -“No, thank you. Laters.”). In the end of the days, they think they carry me “even though I do more PvE than them”, when I have to stretch to my utmost limit and pigeonhole into a support role when they roam around with some awkward builds and maneuver… I just don’t have the resolve to install foxy’s DPS calculator and be really mean to my friends.

P.S. The reason I brought my ranger to COE is because I wanted to see bodies drop to the floor and I wasn’t disappointed. All of sudden, “why mobs hit so hard?”.

I don’t know why you guys insist on nerfing Burning when it has all kinds of limitations and there are mobs that are immune to Burning. What are you gonna do if the Flamethrower last boss was actually immune to Burning? Cry? Sigh…

Today, I went to do COE with a friend. I put an LFG for “Zerker, experienced, 80” as I’m not in the mood for carry. Joining us were an ele, a PS warrior and another engi. I started being skeptical seeing the ele rushing to the first champ wolf with her Ride The Lightning. As I watched her closely, she was camping Fire absolutely, doing nothing but spamming 1-2-3-4-5 in Fire attunement. So I whispered my friend “Wow, we got a condi ele huh? But she is awfully not optimized for burning.” My friend thought it was fine and I should be chill as we killed the boss smoothly in a reasonable time. After Subject Alpha, my curiosity went ahead of me: “Hey ele, are you zerker?” -“Yup” -“Can you ping your weapons please?” -“[Incinerator][Incinerator]”. The group started clamoring “So, you want us to ping our stuff huh?”, “#DungeonRunSeriousBusiness”, “Why asking for zerker when you play ranger…”. By then, I calmly told them “How’s about you all check out her weapons before flaming me? Her legendary doesn’t even have any selected stats and her transmuted one is actually from TA and not zerker… Excuse me for asking people to respect my LFG!”. It then began the longest awkward silence to the last boss and my friend repeatedly begged me not to kick anyone. With that, I just sighed and told him to remake our group for the next path even though my friend resisted with his reason that the run had been smoothly and we both never went down anyways…

tl;dr – Friend ragequit after 3 paths of CoE because of my elitism to pugs. R.I.P Friendship

And the recent nerf was aimed at the PvP ele. Nerf to Cantrip? Burning Ash? PvE Ele don’t care!

ArthurDent.9538:

Swiftwynd.1685:

I tanked the boss without issue as a earth campi g Tempest. Stationary most of the time. Pumping our 3 to 4k bleed ticks sustained. Tempest is single handedly the best raw damage soaker to keep the boss as still as possible for melee dpsers and can kite the mob to still be in range of the ranged squad members who position for the lighting aoe. 40% Protection with 100% uptime and 10% Frost Aura and cannot be crit while in earth. While maintaining solid condi dps. Easily will become the meta tank

Does stone heart even matter though? Most mobs in this game have extremely low crit rates, might be different for raids, but not sure.

Wethospu mentioned about monster’s critical attack some weeks ago. Apparently, champion and legendary rate bosses don’t crit. If you have screenshot evident stating otherwise, please kindly submit it to him for his research.

Regarding Ele/Tempest, I value Signet of Restoration too much to pass on Written in Stone – which also has good synergy with Signet of Fire and Burning Precision.

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Necro is definitely NOT the best fractal class, probably one of the weakest, though that will change when HoT goes live.

For now just do the best you can and wait till Reaper is available and you can be effective. Right now necro is just mainly for running heat room in the reactor fractal.

You haven’t scratched the surface of necro-sploit.

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

Necro I’d say is currently the best fractals class aside from possibly Guardian. I’m guessing that dulfy link is way out of date though, so I’d take it with a grain (or maybe bottle) of salt if I were you…

New light: It is up to date.

You are being too soft, Jerus. Arah didn’t stay difficult for too long. I don’t expect Raid will feel as difficult as we are perceiving it now.

Valento.9852:

How often does the boss land his auto-attack? I know how well eles can heal, but can tempests outheal frequent auto-attack hits?

It’s like every second, no target limit, 360 degree, 1500 range. It ticks between 1.5k to 3.5k depending on your toughness, armor, damage reduction. In order to outheal, you need a lot of passive Regen, passive heal through Signet of Restoration, Vampiric Aura- if any, blasting water field and healing/regen from allies.

The main problem is the spike from a bunch of Seekers gathering at you and you mess up your positioning. If you strafe around constantly and have the boss follow you, none of the other attacks (if any) will hit you, since AI cannot move and attack at the same time.

I agree with OP’s post. Tempest is very close to become solid. Overload really needs helps to be better.

What do you need Reflect for? And no, Block will be periodically destroyed by the boss’ auto Magic Aura. Higher armor doesn’t really matter if you intend to soak up the Seeker’s damage: You’ll die! You still need to avoid colliding against the Seeker to the minimum: like, strafe left-right, pull them together then dodge over. On the other hand, you can dodge over the blue teleport aoe at the last minute to avoid the boss moving too much. So perma Vigor is much more preferred than high armor.

Have you seen the sustain that a cele ele can pump out compared to a cleric guard in a PvP match? Ele can get a high up time of Protection and Regen. With Tempest, you are looking at 40% damage reduction with aura/protection. You have yourself Might and Fury. You have your own Rebound, which you can share with your DPS allies during Bullet Storm, too. You also have plenty of blast finisher to coordinate a water blast with your engi.

Since you don’t need any of the Reflect/Block/Stability (yet), it’s pretty much a fair game to have a cele ele tank/kite the boss.

It’s like asking to remove timers from Tequatl or Triple Trouble. Bad move ;(

P.S. Raids are, by design, for hardcore players only. Dungeons and fractals are where casuals at.

dom.2748:

I have to dig up more pictures to show the changes between some of my other characters but here is my necro.

Very nice!

Auralae.7482:

Dash.9340:

Due to the new scribal salvaging use for dyes

Unsure what this is. Info, please?

http://dulfy.net/2015/10/01/gw2-guild-week-day-three-livestream-notes/

Let me guess, it’s Arah P1? or Arah P2 before Brie?

Then the answer to your question is probably you were in a position that is hard to rez. No one would risk their entire run back just to rez you if it is deemed impossible. The usual etiquette is to stay out of combat before engaging the boss so those that fall behind can waypoint and redo their skip. If the dead people refuse to move an inch from their dying spot then after a while, it makes sense for others to start the boss and finish the dungeons.

I think your problem is to expect other PuGs to babysit you and be responsible for your completion. Which is not alright! From my perspective, you were already carried by other teammates who completed the instance without your contribution. What could you have done in your situation? Asking them to stay OOC so you can redo the skip. Learning how to skip trash is an essential part to build up your “experienced” status in Arah and graduate from depending on others’ mercy.

tl;dr – get good.

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in controlling the aggro of the Vale Guardian without the actual need to change classes/ comp? Anything that could trigger the aggro? From my own experience, the first group I was with had a cleric Guard and a cele Revenant, the boss decided to pick me, a zerker staff ele. So I had to swap to Rabid Tempest in order to kite him and do DPS. In the second group, I played a heavily mix of Cavalier/Zerker Reaper and the boss decided to ignore me and stick on our zerker Revenant all the time and only abandoned her when we had a Rabid Engi join us briefly.

Rasimir.6239:

deSade.9437:

I really missed being a babysitter healbot. Not.
Staying the hell away from it for as long as I can.

I didn’t get to try out the raid due to real life keeping me busy, but I’ve been wondering about this. Raiding in other MMOs I used to play main healer or main tank exclusively, and it took a while adjusting to caring about my damage when I started to spend most of my play time in GW2.

These days though, I find that going back to being pure healer/tank/babysitter doesn’t appeal to me at all, as I’ve come to love the fact that all of my characters are hybrid damage/support. Is the need for healer and tank roles in the new raid really that specific, or is it really a matter of group composition and strategy and has a good chance of ending with more fluid/hybrid roles again?

I played a cele Druid in Grawl Shaman fractal. Aside from the Ventari tablet of my friend and my staff 5, we didn’t have any other projectile defense. I found Druid’s Healing and Dazing spam is very engaging. Your positioning and your attention to your group’s liveliness are required to use your Healing power effectively. You can burst heal for quite a lot, but others also have their own heal and active defense, so you don’t have to spend all the time looking at others’ character and just feed them with your heal. You are able to do your own attacking and crowd controlling as well. Not to forget the new pets do very good damage, and it’s very easy for a Druid to keep their pets alive 100% of the time.

If the raid boss aggro’s on you 100% of the time and will not reset, zerker ele won’t cut it. Either not enough breathing room or you become too focus on sustain to actually contribute anything.

If the ele has to go d/d cele for sustaining, he may as well assume the anchor/kiter/healer role and at the very least, focus on the Red Boss during the split. That said, I had somewhat more success with Rabid/Condi Tempest:
+ Decent damage uptime: Burn Burn Burn Bleed Burn (Our group had 60 stacks of burn spread accross one tempest, one zerk and one condi engi)
+ Good damage soaking: Protection, Frost Aura, Toughness from Rabid
+ Good healing: A lot of Water field blasting, Signet Heal, etc.
+ Mobility: Swiftness, Burning Speed
+ Possible group AED: Rebound used on top of low health teammates during the Blue orb stacking
+ Fill a niche role: Condi, Boon stack/spread
+ Fair amount of Crowd control

The build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJBIhdyxAUhJ2fJY2AwhJWEAM3Wbst2GEAKAHghgwOoIA-ThhHAB7q8j2TAAhq/AwDA4M9AQpEkUALqsC-e

Anyone else want to pitch in? This weekend has been a blast to me, so I think it’s a good time to send my appreciation directly to you-know-who!

Something like the green boss is the best dummy for a high single target damage dealer like thief to be honest.

I used pets with my Tempest and Reaper and they last surprisingly long enough throughout the whole fight. It seems the autoattack and Seekers don’t hurt them.

No, thanks. It will create a Cele-nightmare in every PvP matches.

dlonie.6547:

Walhalla.5473:

dlonie.6547:

It would seem that a bigger problem there is having 9 players stop DPS while running to/from the lightening AoE, when really only 4 needed to. Seems like a much larger DPS loss than 2 subpar classes.

Wasn’t it five People you need for the Lightning Thing?

I heard some groups were doing it with 4. Not exactly sure how that mechanic works. Did anyone do any tests on it?

Tested. 3 are not enough. 4 is enough to prevent a group wipe. 5 will take no damage.

dlonie.6547:

That group had other issues with their DPS, I wouldn’t rush to blame the necros: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Raid-Feedback-1/page/3#post5576310

You really can’t just ignore the boss like that during the lightning runs.

Are you sure his issue isn’t that he didn’t have enough staff ele and PS/EA warrior?