Where did the big O go? I was enjoying watching people hurl stones into the abyss.
Wanted to help a friend out. Good job Australia. National pride.
Hardcore players might not be marketing to casual players. But they are certainly a big influence on keeping a game alive. All those player resources that casual players rely on and use are not created by casual players.
basically this.
nioce work m8s
I feel a-salt-ed.
Welcome to fractals.
Staff on ranger?
Useless in dungeons. That’s my speculation. Would love to be wrong. Can only hope -.-
Variables.
Which paths run.
Drops.
How many ectos/silk from token exchange+salvage and/or what you get from mystic toilet.
Food costs.
Bugged tokens.
I’m tallying AH guards in zerk only parties atm. They’re going pretty strong.
edit: found some more really good guardians.
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Well that escalated quickly.
You can play ranger with longbow + Sword/axe in dungeons and be a useful and productive team member. It’s a great class due to it’s unique party buffs and good opening burst + vauln app when running the meta build.
Here’s the build in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZtHTmXRBsk
You can see for yourself whether that’s something you want to do.
Here is the build itself with explanations on what and why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgWGLMXvKAk
Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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Extra marks awarded for the use of ‘toxicity’ in a creative sentence. 7/10.
As for rewards, they are there but they’re pretty boring imo. I mean, the better you are at clearing the dungeons, the less time you’re wasting and the faster you can make your money. There’s nothing unique, there’s nothing exciting and nothing that makes you stand out from the crowd for having achieved or gotten better at something. They won’t implement that. The QQ will go on forever about how ‘unfair’ it is that the better more skilful players can get something that the lazy and careless can’t.
Also scoreboards while lovely would result in lots and lots of angry PHIW’ers. And I mean a lot. Like most of the ‘community’.
Don’t get me wrong because I would welcome that kind of thing. It just wont happen given the kind of player base this game has. and the lack of interest anet has in anything to do with dungeons. At all.
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I just did a pug zerk only CM. Ranger started kittening because I was using black power + blast for stealthing party instead of SR. Immediately the pugs explained why and then told him to shutup and start running frost/spotter. Faith in pugs restored.
I would have flipped kitten if I were in your position. There’s no way he wouldn’t get a kick option for that. Carrying people through the dungeon with stealth and have them whining about it… wtf.
Oh, well I started telling him why greatsword was kitten damage and how the lack of frost +spotter meant he was literally wasting people’s time but his excuse was ‘i am in zerk so I am meta’ ’I’m aware of sword/axe’ (but not running it for some reason?) and ’I’m too lazy to take frost’. I then asked where his sig of the wild was. I then figured out that he didn’t want to have to use any utilities at all, and just wanted to autoattack his way through everything , hence the signet of the hunt>_>.
The guardian said, ‘if that’s all I need to be meta then I’m gonna use a shield.’ lol.
We were at the end of the run by this point and then he got mad about everyone telling him off so he left as soon as the reward popped up without another word lol.
I’m so used to these kinds of people now I just.. I don’t feel anything anymore lol. I mean, being bad is its own form of karma.
I just did a pug zerk only CM. Ranger started kittening because I was using black power + blast for stealthing party instead of SR. Immediately the pugs explained why and then told him to shutup and start running frost/spotter. Faith in pugs restored.
Yeh you see the biggest problem is that people don’t read, or they do read but they just don’t care anyway.
Early symptoms: These are very easy to spot and I’m sure your average player has encountered these cringe worthy moments many times. The patient will often start with innocent questions, such as ‘is p/p thief any good? Does staff on guardian do the most damage?’ Of course the answer is no, but then the patient will keep asking the question until they get the answer they want, all it takes is one person (usually someone else who is infected) to agree with them and say what they want to hear which is ‘yes, this build is good’ for that person to then become infected too. They will then cling to that notion and completely ignore anything else. Often times they will take to forums with these awful builds and seek further confirmation, completely tunnel-visioning through any rational argument and looking for anyone willing to give them a pat on the back and tell them it’s a job well done. This in a way, is much like a person with 2 voices in their head. A small whisper says ’it’s bad’ but a strong voice bellows ‘ITS A GOOD BUILD’ over and over until the small doubtful voice is quelled. Seeking confirmation from others is important in making sure that small doubtful voice kittens off and is never heard from again.
Treatment is extremely reliant on the stage of the disease that the person is in. For example, someone with 15k AP and a bunch of legendaries running a staff AH guardian with bloodlust stacks and a bunch of shouts is a hell of alot harder to cure than someone with a couple hundred AP and a thrown together build of whatever he thinks might work because he doesn’t know any better. Remember that ignorance is not part of the illness and is perfectly excusable, however self denial is a huge problem and often results in the terminal diagnosis. If one wished to treat these patients it must be done with care. Show them the difference, ask them to try some things, work them into it slowly. The realisation of what they’ve been doing wrong will be an epiphany that will hit them like a bucket full of bricks.
For those poor souls that fail to see the light.. The p/p thieves, the warrior stacked heavy only parties, the bearbows, the staff camping guards etc etc. Take comfort in knowing that not everyone can be saved, feel good about the ones that you did *sheds tear *
I am a very seasoned pugeoneer.
Where do I even kittening begin?
Where does one start with what appears to be the decline of the species?
Keep in mind that this is the place that I need, this is my therapy after performing countless surgeries, many of which were sadly unsuccessful and resulted in the loss of the patient. It’s very emotional ok.
First I’m going to outline the source of the disease. Then we’ll move on to susceptibility, disease vectors, early symptoms and treatment. Keep in mind that the further a patient is into the disease, the more terminal it is which is why I’ve lost countless people on the operating table that is zerk only LFG pugging.
Many people, including myself from time to time, have a hard time comprehending how a patient’s logic becomes so twisted. What was one thinking when he traited strength in numbers and placed signet of judgement on his bar? Well I’m here to tell you the sad truth. Many don’t think much past ‘this sounds good and I like the idea of it’ and this is something that you will find commonly in new players. That’s fine. The problems are the ones that have been around a long time, and continue to think this way. How did it get this way for them? Well it started with that mentality, and then it stopped there. They did not progress. Much like an underdeveloped fetus, this is the extent of their abilities. They have and always will, play whatever makes them feel special and good, even if it is clearly a detriment to the team. I call this foggy eye syndrome, their eyes are so clouded with snowflakes that they cannot see the destruction they are causing around them with their headshot rifle, staff guardian builds etc. They will also happily join meta only parties and insist they are contributing, often convincing themselves that they are playing the biggest and most important role in the party and/or carrying zerk bads hard.
Then you have the people I like to call metabaddles. They got their build off metabattle and haven’t bothered to think about if it’s actually good or not. While metabattle is currently (trying?) to correct their awful dungeon builds, some are still out of date and sadly once a person becomes infected via metabattle, they don’t return to the site to see if there’s a better build or an update. So you have people from aeons ago running these awful builds, thinking they’re doing the right thing, and because these builds with awful traits and weapon sets had zerker gear, they think this is the best build possible and really good for zerk only/meta only parties. When questioned, they become immediately defensive and start claiming that metabattle is the one true god and will be kitten ed if anyone insults their prized deity. Concurrently we have the youtube ‘community’ who jump onto any ‘popular’ channel and immediately think that because a build has lots of likes and views it must be showcasing the best, most efficient build out there, I mean come on, since when can lots of people be wrong together?!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
As for vectors, along with the sources we also have word of mouth. This is especially prevalent in large guilds guilds with lots of people. Everyone’s got an opinion and no actual facts. They get their bad builds from above sources and then spread it like wildfire throughout their guild members, this in turn is transmitted when they get out into the pug parties and start telling new players to run these awful builds, as they are the best. A common warning sign as an example, is watching a nomads guard continually congratulate himself on a slow run, by saying that his party members never got downed, and spam pinging his skills at what he perceives to be important moments that he alone is controlling. The new player is easily impressed by this and will take interest in running that build.
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Make sure they know about meta battle! amazing site!
brb vomiting
Give it a couple months, they will quietly fix it without saying anything or it will fix/unbug itself . That’s the best we can hope for really.
Meh from rather fun thread in start ending was rather disappointing with more complaints and ppl being kittens then actual funny stuff to read XD
I dunno… I thought it was pretty funny how certain forum-champion complain about pugs leaving their party when said forum-champion exploits a boss, only to turn it around and complain about a different pug exploiting the same boss weeks later.
topkek
I need more info :O
The common pug thief abides by these holy tenets:
- Thou shalt not stealth appropriately.
- Thou shalt drop Shadow Refuge during fights at random.
- Thou shalt not understand what blast fields and blasts are. While this may be a tenet for all classes when pugging, this is especially important on thief. Do NOT place smoke fields and/or blast them at any cost.
- If for whichever reason, somebody places a smokefield or firefield, proceed to glare at it and act confused as to what it is.
- If one wishes to range (as is endorsed by the holy scriptures of arena net game play), pistol/pistol is the weapon of choice as the great gods of ArenaNet have demonstrated its effectiveness.
- Thou shalt run at least 1 venom on the utility bar at ALL times, the more useless the better. If one wishes to live even more faithfully, proceed to equip more venoms.
- Thou shalt ALWAYS have the run speed signet equipped. It is crucial that you can run extremely fast at all times, especially when attacking and kiting around at range with your p/p.
- Thou shalt run double fire sigils on weapons at all times as this maximises damage, especially on pistol/pistol.
we got em off teespring, mixed reviews. Im pretty happy with mine, i got the women’s fit Tee in small size and it worked out well. but idk ye ask Nike whether it was worth
I’m gonna just sit over here in my deck chair with my fancy drink with one of them cute little umbrellas in it. Don’t mind me.
The only downside of a thief is that a bad group can really make it hard for you to land your backstabs with the flanking bonus since the idiots will move the boss around frantically for no reason whatsoever.
nonono you see, it’s important to kite around skillfully while ranging from afar so that the boss keeps his agro on the tank. Also throwing in random dodges from time to time helps as well.
Dwayna outfit. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease! Balth outfit is looking awesome~
Exam = initiate trial so I can get better job for more $$$ so I can buy more things in the game.
Swiftfucious says: ‘Everything in real life, has ingame worth’.
My guild t-shirt arrived and I am so happy ^.^
Oh but I can’t play this game till after friday.. Exam coming up, must resist dungeons to study -.-
I think some people probably take the risks with buying from goldsellers because
1.) as previously stated, there’s not been rigorous enforcement going on because its not top priority to go after buyers and
2.) the exchange rate from gems to gold isn’t worthwhile in their eyes. They’d rather take the (perceivable) small risk of buying gold from goldsellers (my friend did it and he didn’t get banned stories are always flying around. Another excuse I hear many times is ‘well man I would prefer to buy through anet but the price is just too high for what you get’)
I think it would be great if the conversion rate was also altered to encourage people even more to stay away from RMT. Punishment is effective, but also incentivising people to do the right thing can make your goal even more achievable.
I wish I knew how to play ranger.
Got served by a greatsword mesmer in zerk only CM.
‘If you knew anything about mesmer you would know that GS is good for certain situations’
I guess all of CM was a good situation for this. >_>
that ele PoV video music :/
but grats.
I see you are running full shouts. I hope you are not one of those kind of guardians that when asked to bring reflection they reply “Thats not part of my build”.
’It’s not my playstyle’
‘It doesn’t matter what build you bring as long as you are a skilled player.’
‘I brought strength in numbers’
Pop some scholies on m8’s. It’ll all be right as a couple shimps on me barbie.
First, I’d recommend that if this is truly a bug, it be placed in the Bug Forums.
However, having been shown it, I’ll see if the QA Team has also noted the thread and we may be able to give you an update in the next few days.
Thanks Gaile for your time.
Brace yourselves, change is comming :o
earlier I joined zerk only pug looking for experienced thief. No one wanted to blast my stealth aaaand they didnt understand how the barrels at the door worked. >_> 45 mins later im in tears. Life is cruel T_T
Hi, I’m Bob.
Hi ey’m Cleetus.
I play a scepter/torch guardian and have been getting massive grief from everyone I party with in the lfg tool.
I feel ya son, man when I be sittin’ out on dat dere porch some ‘noons to watch teh cattle munchin deh grass and them trucks pass by I get some serious hate to. They be drivin past yelling ’watchu doin cleetus?’ and ‘How yer sister doin Cleetus?’ My advise to yer is to just stop an’ thenk ‘bout why dey hate yer so much. I have figured out teh reason and eye’m pretty shur it’s universal my frend, they just be reel jealus. yer see most people be just liek teh cattle outside my winder yonder, dey got the herd mind set an’ they be playin the ‘meta’ all the way to the slaughterhouse, they don’t see dat dere downed state comin.
This is my build and I can crit over 600 with my burning so I know my personal damage is fine. Yet I constantly get people yelling at me and even some death threats and its really ruining my immersion.
Now here’s teh theng, my mooma always used to say, if dey wan yer dead then they havent yet found teh lord, cuz if dey had they would understan that bein dead don mean nothin when teh lord and saviour Grandmaster Mind Brain be waiting for us at them toxic pearly gates. I personaly know that burn dmg is reely good, why jus this morning I burn a whole bushel o’ crops i dun want anymore because I need to prov to me neighbors that global warmin’ don exist.
I haven’t even been able to craft a single piece of dungeon gear because I’m constantly booted and its just so wrong and frustrating. People say these instances are not that difficult yet people treat them so seriously.. My faith says to forgive and forget but this is just so crushing. Help?
yer faith be fine my frend, ferget these horrible peeple in yer life and if yer cant do that then watch Oprah shows, u know the ones with teh deepak chopra specials, get some of them goin. If yer still not feelin motivated in yer life then subscribe to a full box set of The Secret DvD’s.
Immediate deployment or even pre-deployment is fine with me. Mind you the problem is that ANet doesn’t want people being able to deploy just by jumping, or running over a low hill. The fall mechanic seems to have been in place because ANet only wanted it to be deployed in certain conditions. The issue with instant deployment is that programmatically how the game know the difference between falling off a high cliff or falling off a small hill?
If I understand the suggestion, I was thinking the same thing as CureForLiving here. I do a lot of jumping, up and down, and I’d not want my glider to deploy and wing me off into the air when I was trying to do a vista that required a nearly straight downward jump.
I’ve played the demo (obviously
) and I feel the deployment mechanic is really smooth. Your mileage may vary, of course, so we’ll welcome input during the beta tests.
What about the option of binding glide to a key that’s different to your jump key? >_>
had a naga molten for 4 years so far doing pretty well. The naga epic I bought though only lasted like a year before it just stopped working.
Being honest here, I encouraged a friend to join up when game was full price. He stopped playing after first day because the hand holding and crap from levelling up was awful, patronising and time wasting. I decided to try help him so I logged onto the account and found that I too couldn’t stand it. Thankful I joined this game from the start before these changes.
So, when the NPE first came out there were some serious issues with gating and how it affected Vet players.
curious to know what those changes were/when they were. Was a couple months ago with my experience and it was pretty horrible. Would be nice if there’s been some changes.
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Do you really think the majority that play this game are just “bads”?
I know I do.
*runs away and hides *
Also nice necro to the guy above me.
Meh, just let us /inspect gear.
So i just came back to dungeon after like a year… and i realise there’s this perpetual fear climate blanketing all the dungeon runs i did.
everyone is like very afraid of playing and enjoying themselves, instead it’s about yea dps , don’t screw up etc..
people kick people for next to stupid little reasons like failing to jump to the ledge at the start of SE1… wut?
i think anet needs to look at the dungeon climate, it’s not promoting enjoyable play at all.
I think it’s probably all in your mind brain. Perhaps it is only you who feels fearful. Perhaps there’s a reason for that outside of blaming other people.
They used to be cool.
I laughed. Today. Not at this thread, though.
I feel you bro
I did this 1055 times but my ap is not going up? ive only been doing them for AP. someone help please?
Brb making a dedicated healer out of my guardian. Videos to come soon.
Even though my friends are perfectly competent (and without any intention of sounding arrogant)
Surely perfect competence would mean your usefulness as a ‘healer’ is void.
Instanced raids. I need them.
I cant handle open world it’s just too much.
Going outside of my house and getting skin burnt and eyes watering by the sunlight is much going outside of dungeons and getting skin burnt away and eyes watering from the map chat.
) and I feel the deployment mechanic is really smooth. Your mileage may vary, of course, so we’ll welcome input during the beta tests.