Guild Wars 2

Smooth Penguin.5294:

From what I’m seeing, this profession is more support and sustain than 1-hit kills.

Yeah, which is exactly why it looks like it could suck in PvE. There’s no need for a class that’s only good for support in this game mode.

What sort of damage output does revenant offer on a full DPS build though, and how does it compare to the other classes?

These traits really do look worse than the necros, and that is saying a lot.. Virtually no damage buffs, and no weapon specific buffs at all. Far too many healing traits as well. Looks like they took the weakest bits of guard, ele and necro when they designed this.

I wonder what’s the ratio of people who want precursors to craft their own legendary to those who’re just looking to make some gold. Ever so often I toss some rares and exotics into the forge, but I’m only interested in getting a pre in order to sell it and buy skins and such (most of the BLTC sets look better than legendary weapons, imo);

For what it’s worth I got the spear precursor by forging three random exotics and a mystic forge stone. Was pretty disappointing.

I still want tattoos for humans. Let the Norn have their tribal designs, and give humans the old school and nautical type tats. It would fit in perfectly with the lore too, with all the pirates and bandits knocking around.

Norn with all-over body paint would not be a terrible idea, for what it’s worth.

The effort you put into this topic would have been better used just typing the item name a few times and getting it over with.

I don’t even disagree with you, there’s been a couple items I just wanted to straight up throw away too….but this is pretty silly.

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s funny about that is that people were complaining that it wasn’t as user friendly when when we got the new, destroyed version.

#truth

Fact is, there’s always at least one person complaining about every update and change made. Literally, all of them.

It’s unfortunate, because this makes it hard to distinguish reasonable grievances from trolling and pettiness.

This one I think is reasonable, though, Logistically it is pretty clear that the destroyed LA offered significantly more convenience than it does now.

Draknar.5748:

I guess some people don’t remember the old LA. The distances are almost identical…

People are cheesed that they made LA more user friendly after its destruction, then made it suck again.

I thought the dungeon reward tracks in PVP would have killed Arah selling, to be honest. One run through story and it’s unlocked forever. You don’t even need to win. Just be active for ten minutes at a time and you’ll have unlocked just about everything in a couple weeks.

I suppose it is necessary for the achievement, though.

I lol’d everytime he said he ’couldn’t wait to get a mount’

The worst I’ve seen in a while was a bearbow ranger complain about our lack of DPS. “I thought this was a zerk party.” Told us all to go back to WoW at the end of the run. Priceless.

All of the vendor salvage kits should really have 250 uses and have their prices adjusted accordingly.

I’ve always got at least one mystic and five of the blue kits on each character at any given time. The BL kits stay in the bank since they’re rarely used. Inconvenient but meh…got used to it eventually.

dragonfell.8206:

The past is why there is no dungeon q because the industry is afraid that it will hurt communities. No kittens effect communities

I certainly wouldn’t want to be a member of a community with no kittens either.

Removing existing titles makes absolutely no sense. If anything, having lame ‘ez mode’ titles makes the challenging ones more prestigious by default.

Personally, titles are entirely cosmetic and add a bit of flavour. It’s not about how they were earned, but how well they suits each character. E.g. my nngi is dressed like a military dictator so I let him rock ‘The Emperor’ because it suits him. My necro gets ‘Reaper’, Thief is ‘Mercenary’ and so on.

Makes no sense to me.

It would be cool to be able to name your minipets though.

I have no idea what builds people are running. A couple people mentioned trying out rampager gear in dungeons, but most LFG posting is still for zerk.

Does seem like more people are trying glassier builds in PvP though.

Total Characters: 9

- Mesmer 2
- Guardian 1
- Necromancer 1
- Ranger 1 (My first character)
- Elementalist 1
- Warrior 1
- Thief 1
- Engineer 1

They’re all level 80. Only levelled my ranger the ‘natural’ way through exploration and so on, all of the others I used crafting and tomes for exp.

The next three characters I make will go straight to 80 as well, since I have over 200 tomes of knowledge sitting in the bank.

I don’t disagree that it’s unreasonable, since I run on Necro pretty often as well. The point I really wanted to bring across is that we’re all entitled to choose who we let into our parties, for any reason at all.

ArchonWing.9480:

How are necros in dungeons after the changes though?

Necro’s in a pretty good place for ordinary dungeon farming. Vampiric Aura offers decent healing for you and your party, wells are good AOE for trash mobs. Main hand Axe and Dagger/ Offhand Dagger/Warhorn does decent DPS. In full berserker/assassin gear with fully stacked might and vulnerability I hit Subject Alpha for around 15k with Ghastly Claws. Still low tier but completely serviceable, lots of bosses go down before you’ve finished your full rotation.

Chobits.2430:

The things they banned for were for excessive botting and breaking the economy with money making exploits.

They have always and still do swing the ban hammer for these things.

Yup. Quite literally everything in this game comes second to the economy. Players, content, quality… everything

I also don’t see why the OP cares about this.

Tryhard? Nah, quite the opposite really. In a half decent, experienced zerk party you pretty much switch onto autopilot and breeze through. By the time the chest at the end pops it’s like ‘Wait, we’re finished?’ Lol. ‘Trying’ is the exact opposite of what those groups set out to do.

The golden rule with PUGs is that the majority rules. Casuals shouldn’t reasonable expect a speedrun to change to accommodate them, nor should a Zerker expect newbies or chill players to rush through the path. Of course, only one of these types of player tries to barge into the other’s groups and then kicks up a big fuss about it on the forums…

Sold Out.7625:

The gem store will keep having outfits while ingame rewards will focus more on armors. Would you prefer to have it the other way around? : >

Yes, because then we’d have lots of armour sets and few to no outfits.

I’ve never had a problem joining zerker parties as necro. From time to time even had to carry bad PUGs. The problem is that while necro has decent DPS there’s virtually no meaningful support skills so we’re tolerated at best. We did get Vampiric Aura in the patch which is neat, but still totally unnecessary.

Lots of things will get you booted out of even semi casual speed runs. If any of the following apply to you, consider making some adjustments if you want to PUG on this class.

- Sub optimal weapon choices
- Bad build, for e.g. full signet
- A preferred class is missing from the party comp
- ‘Going rogue’. Not stacking, aggroing mobs too early, etc.
- Low AP

Necros and rangers also get a lot of prejudice by default because in the hands of unskilled players they tend to mess up more often than other classes.

Rata Sum is the most convenient option at the moment.

Arah really brings out the worst in people, lol. Every other dungeon there’s a good chance of finding a party willing to walk a newbie through it, show ‘em the ropes. Even when kitten goes wrong they just keep banging on. In Arah everyone just goes ’Nope!’ and quits, or kicks at the first sign of trouble. It’s too bad, would have liked to add one or two of those paths to my daily dungeon PUG tour.

I’m terrible with creative character naming. I search seventh sanctum and a bunch of other name generator type apps and eventually just settle on obscure music references and mythology.

Made a dreadlocked guard called ‘Jah Fire’ because that class has a focus on burning and fire skills, and that’s a common theme throughout Reggae music and Rastafari.

My Sylvari have Celtic names because it just seems fitting for the default ‘elf’ race.

Got my engy’s name, Roger Bucklesby, from an image I found on tumblr or buzzfeed. There’s a pretty interesting story behind that as well.

First mesmer is called ‘Handsome Johnny’ kind of ironically since I made him with the black eye face. Name was inspired by an old folk song.

In retrospect I should have gone with a theme like Azure did. Makes it much easier for friends and guildies to recognize who you are.

Meh, diversity is overrated. Just give me ‘functional’. Only gonna run optimized builds anyway, this update makes that process a lot simpler and more effective.

Nah, its a scam sent by another player. See the little note at the bottom? Report and block the sender.

Draknar.5748:

Essentially OP believes since he paid for the game, that he should not only be able to play 100% of the content (which he can), but that he should be able to easily succeed at it.

I’m sorry, no, sometimes there needs to be something a little bit harder for those of us with above average skill.

Teq specifically became a big AFK fest. You had 75% of the people doing the work, and 25% of the people standing around or running around auto attacking. Now there needs to be a bit more participation and suddenly its the end of the world.

You have access to all of the content. If it’s too hard for you, it’s too hard for you. Move along.

It’s a matter of consistency. Notice how there’s little complaining about dungeons, fractals or TT. Most of us got better at dungeons and failed at TT often enough to walk away with no regrets. The content stayed the same, and we adjusted accordingly. With Teq now, they scaled his difficulty up, down a bit, then up again. People develop expectations after a while, and drastic changes like this are upsetting.

Aside from that, I see nothing wrong with the OP’s expectation for manageable PvE content. I figure most people play that side of MMO for the depth and variety of interesting content, not so much difficulty and bragging rights. That’s more of a twitch gamer and PvP thing, isn’kitten

There is a uniform, but for some reason the NPCs that represent each order tend to have their own unique little touches, or just straight up wear what they feel like.

That doesn’t make the full set less uniform. If you want to nothing’s stopping you from transmuting full sets, including appropriate weapons and dyes.

There’s already light, medium and heavy armour for each Order. Don’t think we need more than that.

Pact armour would be neat though. Three distinct armour sets for each weight class, not an outfit.

Lol. Yeah, everyone gets that it is do-able with a bit of effort under the right circumstances.

They just don’t think it’s worth the effort and would like it scaled back down to a level of difficulty that is fitting for a free-for-all encounter.

Ele, Guard, Mesmer and Necro.

SirDrygan.1823:

wildcode.5403:

Ok so in a recent update traits and skills got a major overhaul. While I like they style I am dismayed at the reduced choice.
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ANET threw out that motto after launch. Now it’s “Play how we want you to play.”

It has always been ‘play how we want you to play’, the idea of some kind of complete freedom is something people with poor comprehension skills made up.

Then having fewer spirit shards generated should be a good thing. Casual players would have less access to them and perhaps drive prices of some MF recipe items up. In theory anyway, I’m terrible at working out this sort of thing.

Assuming a player did ten dungeon paths per day it’s only a loss of about 5 shards. I don’t see this having a major impact. Most players probably have at least 1K of these sitting in our wallets and no real use for ’em.

I still got spirit shards from champion bags in my dungeon runs. Not sure how many (it’s easy to miss them since they’re deposited directly into the wallet now) but it doesn’t seem like a significant decrease.

Don’t see anything wrong with your suggestion though.

Dear, sweet merciful Dwayna…no.

I don’t object to this because of lore or immersion breaking, but because there’s so much more to the GW universe that needs love first.

1) Unlocking some of the NPC cultural outfits and faces
2) Functional looking back items (Rox’s quiver and Canach’s backpack are a step in the right direction)
3) The rest of the 6 gods

Leaf.3156:

I’m going to repeat that the new dungeon token merchant is just ridiculous.
You removed 8 named NPC’s and replaced them with a generically named minimum size Asura that is not marked on the map, hidden somewhere in a corner way off the beaten path, and even dyed his armour to match the background. It’s like you don’t WANT players to find him.

+1

It’s a terrible change. LA is nothing if not spacious. Dungeon merchants ought to have a similar set-up as the BLTC vendors, with a ‘sample’ of their wares on the table in front of them. The single merchant menu is counter intuitive as well, it’s noticeably harder to navigate.

Apart from this my general thoughts on LA are as follows:-

Good
It’s clean and pretty. I don’t really have much of an opinion on the aesthetic of the place, but as I wandered around it most things just looked nice. It was a pleasant place to visit. Lots of little features that I’m sure the RP crowd would have a blast with as well.

Bad
More space, fewer services. If there’s a point to this, clearly I missed it. The smaller city hubs after Scarlet wrecked the place were FANTASTIC. You had all the basic necessities (Laurels, TP, Crafting/Banks) located in the general vicinity of the unique services (Guild management, Mystic Forge, Dungeon vendors). Now….I don’t know what to make of this. It’s a huge step backward, imo.

Ugly
Giant molluscs. Not a fan of these at all. Was expecting a more prominent ‘lion’ theme.

Faereilos.5106:

Those wings are atrocious. I’m glad they’re only available for limited time.

Agreed. They would probably have looked a lot better at about half their current size.

bladex.9502:

Personal DPS is now probably something like
1. Thief
2. Ele
3. Warrior
4. Engi
5. Guard
6. Ranger
7. Mesmer
8. Necro

I tested Ele vs War and Ele scores about 600-700dps higher against a single target, other than that I didn’t really try anything

How the kitten are you getting that much damage out of an engy that you’d rank them above guard?

Is there some complex and difficult best case scenario skill rotation you guys are pulling off, because no combination of bomb/grenade kits and flame thrower has ever gotten above the ‘meh’ level for me.

Terrahero.9358:

Azure.8670:

What are you talking about? Engineer has been quite possibly the best class for years. As of this moment this patch made it the strongest class

Exegeration is an art. And you are an artist.

Just last year Engineer was the second least played profession in higher levels of pvp, barely more popular than Mesmer. In pve and wvw it has always been one of the least played professions.

Engineer has most definatly been one of the worst professions for the longest time. Untill in pvp the meta changed enough that annoying bunker builds, who cannot kill but just stand on a point, were good. Outside of Player versus Gimmick engineers remained unpopular.

Not like Guardians, or Thieves, or Warriors. About all of which you can say, without a hint of irony, that they are quite possible the best professions for years now. And i’d honestly drop the “possibly”.

That’s my thinking as well. It’s often hard to tell trolls from the uninformed on these forums.

It’s still a fairly viable PvP class, but Engineer is horrible in PvE. Mediocre DPS at best with complex, cumbersome skill and weapon sets. Even Necro seems to outperform ’em since the update.

I don’t actually understand what you, and others of like mind, want out of this game. Do fights need to last a specific amount of time in order for you to enjoy them?

Personally, I think that Efficiency > Diversity. There were loads of build options, and most of them sucked or had very few functional differences. In both PvE and PvP the majority of players built around the meta anyway. It’s not quite the loss it seems to be.

GuzziHero.2467:

<redacted> AWESOME!

No more hobosack and that mortar kit… sublime! Only one I’m not sure about is the look of bomb kit, but thats alright.

Thank you Anet!

Engineer is now like the most bad-kitten grocer ever.

Grenade kit gives you a sack of Iron Potatoes. Bomb is a cake….of Death!

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed that they didn’t stick with the multiple city centers. That was incredibly convenient.

If you been havin’ PUG problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and the zerk ain’t one.

Rarity yes, exclusivity no. Seasonal items should always come back at least once a year.

I don’t want to be the coolest looking kid on the block, I want us all to look awesome. There are more than enough cosmetic items in game that even if everything was readily available, we’d still have dozens of ways to create unique and interesting looking characters. And that’s what really matters, imo.

rapthorne.7345:

I truly am surprised that seemingly overnight veteran players have totally forgotten the sheer amount of love and passion that ANet employees have pumped in to the game and are pumping in to HoT.

Never before, in over a decade of MMO gaming, have a come across an MMORPG with such attention to detail, quality and charm as GW2. It’s clear the game has been crafted as a child of passion and love, not as a money making tool. I’ve fallen in love with GW2 and the people that makle GW2 happen, and will gladly support them for years to come if it means the game I love keeps getting bigger and better.

People shouldn’t be directing any rage towards the devs at all. Harrassing someone for just doing their job is deplorable. They’ve made an amazing game, that works far more often than it doesn’t. It’s management that makes the decisions that really stick it to us.

To be fair though, the community has been kind of unsettled for a while. There are a lot of issues (with varying degrees of reasonableness) that were raised in the forum repeatedly, and a good chance that they wont be resolved any time soon. When the community realised the one thing we were all expecting wouldn’t be included, a couple people just lost it.

Some of our community could definitely have handled this a bit more tactfully. There are ways of letting someone know you think they’re doing bullkitten that are polite enough that they’d genuinely thank you for it. But, what can you do? It’s gamers. Social skills have never been our forte. Nerd rage is unavoidable in this industry.

Man, just promise me some new armour skins….period.

We’re certainly entitled to at least one thing: an opinion. For better or worse, that is the sole purpose of these forums. It’s counter-intuitive to try to shame people for expressing opinions you disagree with.

As for the complaints…this how capitalism works – businesses try to squeeze as much as they can out of consumers, and vice versa.

Fair points, although I think the second is moot. If an account is compromised it’s compromised. Full stop.

Turns out I misunderstood how the package worked. There’s not an additional game code bundled with the pre-order so this post is pointless anyway.