Guild Wars 2

Does paragraph breaks even matter?

Yes, yes they do.

Do aoes, lvl to 80 and party up.

Solved.

Shadow,

I’m curious, what set of classes do/did you usually see?

Magiofdeath.2745:

You have fun as well. Maybe you will get a flawless dolyak parade going. I guess the folks on FA just don’t like dolyaks. They do smell funny.

The FA players or the dolyaks?

Don’t forget about the last vW on the WvW. Thats right, there are three of us. This means that at any one time, someone is getting double teamed. There are four maps. Thats 4 double teams happening at once.

Did I cry when TC caped bay behind BG when we went out to wipe FA? no…because this is WvWvW. If you want a fair fight, go play sPvP, you will not find fair fights in WvWvW. Any ss you take of the map shows 2v1’s constantly, your just upset it was your server’s turn, kiddo.

As for the rest, I’m sure TC will welcome Kaineng to T2 with open arms. They will be blue you know….you shouldn’t let that stand….blue is your color.

ower.9143:

Zoel.9154:

nice you guys hold a parade then gank FA en mass when they show up

CLEARLY you aren’t mad anymore

e: how about a refund of my box of fun as a spirit of GOOD WILL?

let’s see, 4pm PST. TC all blue, FA 80% blue, BG 80% green only pushing Red, EB evenly split between green and blue. Yeah clearly they’re not mad or working together.

Looks like an hour after no rating reset announced and we get our first real 2v1 qq.

Well, we almost made it.

Magiofdeath.2745:

JaredKincade.9761:

Ha, poor mendon’s lord. We made him bake cookies and then didn’t let him have any! BWA HA HA HA

Its amazing to me, 15 pages and no prolonged arguments over “you guys are 2v1ing me” or “your only winning because of coverage” or “if you knew how rating worked you would never attack my server, noob”.

We at blackgate, were obviously the problem lol.

PS. WE NEED MORE GVG!!!

Oops, doublepost. Its because this isn’t tier 1.

From what I’ve seen on the forums, TC is the most interesting/least weird RP community I’ve seen from any game. I mean, obviously I can’t say from perspective of playing on the server, but RP moments I’ve witnessed in other MMOs just makes me want to shudder. One word from an MMO I used to play (I don’t RP at all mind you): Goldshire.

Nah, Tier 2 had plenty of this last time we were here. lol

Ha, poor mendon’s lord. We made him bake cookies and then didn’t let him have any! BWA HA HA HA

Its amazing to me, 15 pages and no prolonged arguments over “you guys are 2v1ing me” or “your only winning because of coverage” or “if you knew how rating worked you would never attack my server, noob”.

We at blackgate, were obviously the problem lol.

PS. WE NEED MORE GVG!!!

Pshhh, I can’t speak for all guilds, but my guild’s teamspeak had a few weeks ago (during free transfers) speculated about picking up major guilds from other servers that we had played, and who we would prefer from them.

The first choice by all members was always Tarnished Coast. If we had to pick, you guys are always so cool on the forums, and always reliable in WvW. Sure you may not have the highest ppt every hour, but you don’t let it get you down and freak out about it, you just show up and play your game and have fun.

Our new Crystal Desert friends certainly have fit in well, and made a huge impact while we were in Tier 1, I’m sure you guys would have as well.

I know you guys would never leave, but it was fun to speculate ha.

Although, maybe between ronin and pot, our servers could combine via marriage? You know, like one kingdom uniting with another?

Pending how Kaineng does against Tier 2 servers, I think TC is solid 5th place overall at this point.

If people didn’t want them to reset the rating, they shouldn’t have stacked servers so much it threw off the current one. The reset was forced because some servers used the rating of dead ones to rocket up in rating, throwing the whole system off.

Now that 100man guilds can’t move servers on a whim, its the perfect time to let things resort themselves out. If your on a server that is higher than it should be, just play with small 15 man crews. Those are still very viable, just watch that red guard vid lol.

The fact that you think the out manned buff is actually a buff shows that you need more WvW experience.

Why are we still complaining about coverage? Its a 24 hour game. Do the Australians and the Asians not get to play this game too? Its not night capping, its their day time, what are you going to do, make them stop playing so you can feel better about the points you took during your day time? That makes no sense.

If you don’t like a game that keeps score while you sleep, then maybe this game isn’t for you.

Fun fights in FABL tonight. Our motley crew of 15 had you guys on the run in bay.

TC, no more complaints about BG back dooring keeps you hear? :P

Maybe we can set up some GvG thursday night? Anyone game?

I’m not even going to quote it got way too confusing way too fast. It was late, I swear!

I could have sworn that whole thing started with “I wonder why BG isn’t doing as good as SOR was”. My point (lost in the shuffle) was that having a third competitive server like FA makes a huge difference in how things stack up point wise, and comparing the two is apples to oranges.

It wasn’t intended to be BG > than all you sorry servers at all. I apologize if it came off that way.

The only complaint about you Toasters that I have is you have pushed Feisty out of the spotlight. I want more Feisty updates! The original, not these neir come latelies. :P

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

That’s just it. We have improved. I am noticing some much better organization from ALL of the guilds. Many of them have started really learning from each other by creating specific roles and builds to compliment the entire zerg.

Here is the facts though. SoR was vsing TC and SBI. SBI is a dead server. So SoR, with there new and improved night crew, completely stomped TC (who has NO night crew) into the ground.

We are fighting FA and TC right now. TC did get some transfers but that’s not a big deal. The huge difference in this match up is that FA received 90% of the IoJ night crew, if not all of them. IoJ was ridiculous in the oceanic timezone. FA has always been pretty good in NA prime time, so adding a night crew makes them a force.

This means our night crew isn’t able to reach the 600 PPT it did last time we were matched up against SoR and TC (both didn’t have any night crews). And by the time we logged in, all our keeps, along with some enemy ones, were fully upgraded. So it was a matter of holding as much as you can.

I don’t agree with that. better organization? really? you lost your garrison, just. without anyone noticing i bet. it happened before, and it is still happening now.

Expecting us to never lose a tower/keep is unrealistic expectations, especially considering the dynamics of your opponents. We aren’t the only ones who can improve, other servers can too.

Anyways, you obviously have your mind completely set on this notion so any discussion to convince you otherwise is futile and a waste of time. So, this will end here.

Anyways, score update please? I like to keep track of the scores throughout the day to see how our crew is doing in each timezone.

Thanks!

Will end. Just want you to know, try to accept others opinions and don’t shut your door tight. Being content with current situation never get you further.
I did mention TC and FA are stronger. They improved and are improving. They have upgoing learning curve but BG’s just seems to be flat. I assume you understand the word parallel. I understand what you’re trying to say. But please just chill and think from every angle.

How can you possibly say our learning curve is flat, you’ve played us for one week. Lets have this discussion after 8 weeks of play hmm? You don’t have the slightest frame of reference here to form an opinion.

You cannot compare SORs point gap with BGs in tier 2 because they were fighting one opponent, and neither opponent had oceanic coverage, FA does.

You are trying to make conclusions based on unreliable facts. Just like I can’t say how much FA has improved since last week. I do know, its been fun playing against two servers put together (Isle of Aspenwood), plus TC.

DivineBeing.2086:

Flawed Victory.4321:

PPT is not everything but it reflects how we are capable to perform better than before. I expected us to have some skill improvement after T1 like strategy, scouting, flipping camp, points before ticking, siege placement etc. I’ve seen JQ and SOS did perfectly on those I wish our commanders could do the same. I’ve seen us fighting in the same old way tried and tried and refused to do something fresh and eventually just switched map to avoid the zerg. This week, I don’t see anything new, not yet maybe but I am still hoping for.

It doesn’t matter if TC is stronger than before or FA is a more competitive opponent than SOR. If the other servers have advanced, why couldn’t BG? The idea is it should be parallel, at least. So TC and FA are stronger, that’s why we have smaller gap of ppt. But what if BG had moved up a few levels as well? Will it still be the same? just my two cents.

That’s just it. We have improved. I am noticing some much better organization from ALL of the guilds. Many of them have started really learning from each other by creating specific roles and builds to compliment the entire zerg.

Here is the facts though. SoR was vsing TC and SBI. SBI is a dead server. So SoR, with there new and improved night crew, completely stomped TC (who has NO night crew) into the ground.

We are fighting FA and TC right now. TC did get some transfers but that’s not a big deal. The huge difference in this match up is that FA received 90% of the IoJ night crew, if not all of them. IoJ was ridiculous in the oceanic timezone. FA has always been pretty good in NA prime time, so adding a night crew makes them a force.

This means our night crew isn’t able to reach the 600 PPT it did last time we were matched up against SoR and TC (both didn’t have any night crews). And by the time we logged in, all our keeps, along with some enemy ones, were fully upgraded. So it was a matter of holding as much as you can.

This

wombat.6123:

BG: Whenever we break into a keep to take it back from TC you guys seem to appear out of nowhere.

It’s like our wall breaches are a magical portal that summons Blackgate invaders to the party. It’s funny how we take something back from TC and end up sweeping for BG mesmers.

Welcome to fighting against a Tier 1 server :P

On this week’s episode of Troll Rehab with Dr. Drew:

jaredkincade spends time in the BG/TC/FA score update thread. The TC girls and update posts are providing a much needed positive environment for him to gain perspective. He has come a long way from three weeks ago…

FLASHBACK

Mired in the virtual back alley that is BG/SOR updated threads for over 9 weeks, jaredkincade found himself strung out on troll. It happened slowly over time. First one post, it was only one post, how bad could it be?

“I can stop any time I want. I’m not the troll, they are! THEY ARE!”

Gradually, as he became addicted to Covenn and Indo posts, he told himself he was defending BG’s good name. And maybe he was. But at what cost? At what cost?

Sensing his impending fall into darkness, his server moved to tier 1 to get him away from the addiction plaguing his soul. This helped for awhile, however without professional help, as soon as rating resets were announced he found himself on the wrong side of town, looking for a fix on SOR/TC/SBI update thread. Regression.

THIS WEEK

Are the TC girls enough for jaredkincade to finally move past his addiction for good? Or is this all just a prelude to the inevitable crash when SoR meets BG again in battle?

Miiaah.5416:

FA seems feisty and fun, hopefully they keep it up after today

Exactly my sentiment. And I think I knew deep down IOJ was there too, but I think I had forgotten. It makes sense, you guys still 2v1 all wrong just like they did LOL.

Does WvW have its flaws? Yes.

Is WvW the funnest aspect of any game I’ve played since SWG before they screwed it up? Yes.

I’m not going anywhere.

Saweth,

You have about 9 more weeks to go before you reach covenn ranks, but your getting there, your getting there. I like your tenacity.

BTW, as for zerg breaking, its all about open field in the higher tiers guys. Many guilds in top tiers in both EU and NA don’t even take towers or keeps, they just do open field fighting.

I can’ speak for all maps, but last night in TCBL and tonight in BGBL, FA is coming at BG, trying new things, playing the chess game that makes open field so much fun.

Just don’t get burnt out TC and FA. Keep it up all week. We’ll see you out there.

That ICoa = BG explanation made me laugh.

I’ve haven’t seen so many words saying so little since we were in a tier with SoR.

To answer TC. We’ve been in Tier 1 for three weeks, and seen quite a few new things. However, I will say that no one controls supply on a map like TC. Sure you guys have weaknesses, like all servers do, but that is a great strength.

We all say you Garnished Toast are in love with your yaks.

As for FA, you are for sure tenacious, and a few nice open field tactics. Its been fun. We are totally not using you as practice for when we go back to Tier 1. Totally not at all. :P

I hate you…forsaken. I hate you. My yaks hate you too.

We have people that ahve been queued since reset. Then we had some restart their clients and reque 2 hours in. They are still queud.

I’m really looking forward to when there isn’t such a huge queue on every map, and all the guilds can get all their people onto one map. On reset nights we are forced to share :P

Fun open field tactics in TCBL. You made us keep our forces from going north, we really wanted garrison. We gave you the shot, but guarding TC watergate with FA zerg means we go to Redbriar.

Proumbro.1376:

Blade.9317:

I may not completely understand the implications of the score reset, but after next week none of the servers currently in T1 may be there. Won’t tiers be determined by whatever number of points are gained by servers during the week? As in servers that blow out their current tier will be T1? As I said, I may have it completely wrong.

As far as I understand, you are correct, barring one prerequisite, that all the servers be set to particular rating say 1500. If they tier the starting reset values to say 1700 for T1, 1600 for T2, etc this will still happen, but to less of an extent.

Again, as far as I understand.

I agree, if its 1500 straight across then huge shifts. If they seat the tiers with a rating subset then smaller shifts.

sostronk.8167:

Proumbro.1376:

VOLKON.1290:

I’m not fully up on the politics… why would SoR go for revenge against SoS? Revenge for what?

I wouldn’t say revenge as much as I would say rivalry. It’s been a while since our super close matches of the past, and many of us are looking forward to some equally fun matches when we meet again.

If your from SOR, a word of warning. BG pretty much played themselves out of staying in Tier 1 next week because of their rivalry with SOS. If they had of played smart last week and targetted JQ, BG would have finished in second place and gained some points. This week they are going to miss pushing SOS out of tier 1 by 30 points, which they could have made by playing for second place last week. To elaborate on this, SOS commanders were instructing to leave BG alone and avoid them and target JQ because it was obvious they were the bigger threat.

That said, Im yet to see a server play smart like this. Just know that a “rivalry” can come back to bite you like it just has for BG. And in all honesty, I don’t see BG getting much Tier 1 again for a while. Especially with Kain coming to Tier 2 in another week and FA becoming a stronger unified force.

Well then you don’t understand how this really works then.

The ratings are all equal tomorrow. The shake up will take several weeks before the right servers are in the right tiers, but I will be shocked if BG isn’t in a higher tier than SOS, JQ and SOR in two weeks.

Barring any new substantial announcements on rating from Anet, quote me on this on Feb 8th.

EDIT: BTW, BG did finish in second place.

Meditrinas Faith.8320:

Not that I can point a specific post out but didn’t JQ actually claim to be stacking their server with transfers? Wasn’t that actually in multiple posts? Then you getting a bit crazy saying its propaganda? SoS gets flooded (literally) Aus players.. hope things dry out for you soon. Transfers come in on other servers. Its simple. Good game to all. When the winning server comes out and kittens all over the place its ugly. You had the chance to be graceful in your powerful win. You blew that class act. There is next week.

1. Jade Quarry
2. Sanctum of Rall
3. Sea of Sorrows

Bye bye BG.

You do realize in all likelyhood BG will be in T1 before any of the other three you listed after next Friday?

Of course anet can decide to do anything, it all speculation, but even if the ratings weren’t about to be reset, I agree with a poster above, I think SoR is in for a bit of a shock.

We got pages and pages and pages of complaints about how BG pvdoors them. JQ, get your forum warrior pants on, cuz your going to need it with them lol.

I wish it was a better word than kitten.

You guys you guys….

You think that a screen shot of what the maps look like can tell the whole story. That SOS has lost moral, that SoS is throwing the match, BG is throwing the match etc etc. and that is all there is to it?

There is much more going on here than most anyone thinks they can see. What exactly? Well if your not out in the BL maps then I’m not going to give you the answer.

But I can say this. BG’s getting a little tired of having other servers play the rating against us when we come out, night after night and push hard. For 8 weeks we pushed, put in long hours, fought tooth and nail, trained and pushed from 4PM Friday to 3PM Friday and earned out spot in Tier 1.

Look at what was happening the hour before the big announcement, if the match ended right then (can we forgo the “there was still a lot of week to play” I know that) BG would have taken 2nd, passing up last weeks winner, yet still be moved back a Tier. Why? An either intentional, or unintentional abuse of rating.

Then as soon as the announcement was made, SoS drops in rating dramatically.

Servers that start with S’ rating is getting a little irritating to those that play on BG.

Besides, in the grand scheme of things its 2 days. Give us a break (Both SOS and BG), not all of us have servers that take turns each night because the queue is so long on all 4 maps. Some of us put in the hours every night and long into the night to accomplish what you see. Some of us need some rest. Some of us need to let some junior commanders take the wheel now, when rating is going to be reset anyway.

This is the calm before the storm. Lets enjoy it, cuz its going to get nasty again soon.

Is wagro to blame?

I use an offtank to pull wagro. Its called wine.

I’d also like to thank RG for two things.

The first one is for coming to NA. As a BG player, you going to JQ was…scary….however you have shown the few of us that actually pay attention instead of crying, where we needed improvement. Its a subtle strategy, (actually its not all that subtle, all you need is a brain to see it) and while it looks like culling exploiting, it is not, it holds actual tactical advantages. If culling was fixed tomorrow, it still would be very very effective. One of you said it up there, but several guilds (especially those on BG) have taken notice and have adjusted certain things. So thanks.

The second thing I’d like to thank you for is leaving NA!

:P

We know the secret to get in in 5 minutes instead of 20 or 30 over here on BG, but we aren’t telling!

Cirus.5748:

This is very important, there needs to be more variation in the match ups. At one point in about November, there were 6 power servers that were all very close to equal coverage. Tier 1 and 2 was very close. However most of these servers never got to face each other at their strengths because they were stuck in their tiers for over 8-18 weeks, weakening some of them.

Jade Quarry and Stormbluff Isle never got to see what Sanctum of Rall was made out of while they were in their comfy tier 1, and by the time Stormbluff Isle saw tier 2 as of 2 weeks ago it was already too late, SBI had lost some of it’s major guilds and was on the verge of self destruction.

Similarly, despite Blackgate winning for ~8 weeks in a row, comfortably much of the time they never got to test themselves against Sea of Sorrows, by the time they got out of tier 2 their coverage had already weakened because they’d been stuck in tier 2 for too long.

At the start of the glicko ratings system, there was a lot of variation in the match ups, basically whoever won got promoted a tier, and whoever lost was demoted a tier. I feel that this is how the ratings system was supposed to play out, and if a server was consistent it could stay in it’s tier even if it loses. Due to the deaths of servers though, such as HoD and ET, they fed their hard earned ratings to the teams around them as they fell down, absolutely fattening up the points in the tiers to disadvantage the servers in the tiers below them.

I agree with most of this, but I honestly think the difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2 was much bigger than you think.

BG goes down from Tier 1 getting, I’ll admit it, pretty beat up. But we didn’t free fall, we stayed in that 4th position. Then we did have to slowly work back up, and it gave us the time we needed to ground out our guild base, get organized, recruit, train, gear up. When we did make it into Tier 1 (most SBI transfers happened after they went to Tier 2, we were not handed our spot because they died while still in Tier 1) things were pretty tough on us, even though we were blowing out Tier 2 the very week before (although we still went up in rating).

To those not fighting in Tier 1, it is a different game, and I’m not talking about coverage. Even in the last two weeks, the meta changed again, I’m not going to go into specifics, but things are played a little differently in Tier 1 than in Tier 2 and it did take BG a couple of weeks to adjust.

As for myself, I was really hoping we could edge out SOS so we could fight SOR this week, even with their new henchmen, and see if bandwagon or trial by fire prevails, but it looks like that isn’t going to happen for awhile and who knows what our servers will look like when we do happen to match up again.

Still, I think the reset is a good thing, but there is one change you guys should really really consider making.

If “Season 1” really was like a “Preseason” then this makes that much more sense.

Seat the Tiers with rating, you know in the long run they are just going to go back to something very very close to this, assuming there are no more mass transfers, which you guys are.

Tier 1 (SOS SOR JQ) 1700
Tier 2 (BG TC FA) 1650
Tier 3 (Kain, Mag,DB) 1600
Tier 4 (SBI, YB, CD) 1500
Tier 5 (EB, IOJ, DR) 1450
Tier 6 (BP, AR, NS) 1400
Tier 7 (DH, GoM,HoD)1350
Tier 8 (SF,FC,ET) 1300

This honestly does achieve all your goals while also maintaining some semblance of week two not being so screwed up. It resets the rating to clear old numbers from a bad system for the new numbers to work with. It mathematically brings Tier 1 and Tier 8 much much closer in rating so those that want to move up, have the opportunity to. And it will give week 2 and week 3 a fighting chance to have competitive matchups, instead of having to wait for weeks 5 and 6 for what we have now.

50 points too much based on the new math your considering? make it 25, or 10, just give something appropriate to help balance out the fact that the lower tier blow outs will be week 2s tier 1, and that is just not accurate and everyone knows it.

Its amazing to me that the biggest complainers of this move is SOR, when they are the ones exploiting the rating to jump straight into near 1st position without ever having to face a tier 1 server. Ah, well actually it doesn’t amaze me at all.

The SOR jump in rating is the reason they are reseting the points. They are out of whack and the system needs tuning, the result of SoR gaining so much rating in three weeks is evidence of this. BG earned its T1 spot after 8 weeks of hard hard week by week fighting to get to where we did. SoR now has the chance to do the same and earn their T1 spot instead of rocketing by pvdooring a dead server with a high rating.

BG did it, are you afraid to put in the work to earn it? You should be pleased, if you do get to Tier 1, it will be because you earned it, not because your killing siege raiser over and over and over again.

Rating Reset
Enjoy your single week of tier 1.

CHIPS.6018:

Reslinal.2359:

Actually I am not sure how it’s going to work after next week. Say next week in current T1 JQ wins and SOR is the last, and T5 Yak’s Bend get first. Does it mean there’s a chance JQ is going to fight Yak’s Bend the week after since their ratings may be closer?

Let’s say next week SF (rank 22), EB (rank 15) and FA (rank 6) blows out their enemies. These 3 servers would be in T1 next next week. FA would proceed to blowout SF and EB and get free points. If JQ didn’t blow out SoR and and SoS, JQ would end up in a lower tier than SF and EB for next next week.

Yea its free points, but the free points will be like 30, not 90. Then the next week they will play the other ones that had blow outs, and drop back down.

They thing everyone is forgetting is you get large amounts of rating by beating servers higher than you in rating. Because everyone’s rating will be equal, there won’t be any huge rating shifts.

True, but it also means that all servers that want to get into Tier 1 will have to earn their way in, not exploit a dead servers uncorrected high rating to shoot into Tier 1.

Azure Prower.8701:

Azure Prower.8701:

Actinotus.6410:

Azure Prower.8701:

MingYew.8521:

HAHAHA, SOS just prepare to lose and drop tier. We, JQ are sure to win and keep on crushing you no matter what. Even ppl from SBI hate you guys that they come to us and help us to crush you.

Good job JQ, we’re number one.

Edit: I forgot, even PRX come to us.

SoS has been through worse. This was SoS 5 months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ntkZC6RTg

I have such fond memories if that matchup…

…and am so sad to now see ET ranked 24th from 24 US servers.

Exactly my point. SoS stands the test of time whilst other servers are temporary. I’m putting my money on BG being the next server to plummet in ranking.

Called it.

You called nothing. BG is gaining 30 Points in rating right now. And by the end of the week will most likely gain a positive of some number.

When SoR gets to Tier 1, we’ll see how high their rating stays.

BG has gained rating 13 out of the last 14 weeks, we just keep going up. If it weren’t for SBI shenanigans we’d have secured out foothold in Tier 1 by now.

As things are right now, its too close to call. It all depends on who comes out during the week, like every other week.

(and who gets that last minute guild lol)

Are you staring at your queue screen for more than 20 minutes? Do you like fighting in WvW more than waiting for a queue to pop? Can only half your guild get in the same map at once while the other half waits for queues that seem to drag on forever?

Well with only one easy payment of zero gems, BG has a solution for you. No more waiting in queues to play with your friends. No more having to log onto these forums and see those representing your server give you a bad name.

Hurry, because this limited time offer expires in the next 24 hours.

Call now and receive access to BG’s guild TS3 server.

BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE!

Move now and receive double DOUBLE the respect your getting on your current server.

(In fast voice)
Paid for by the Coalition to get equal coverage on Blackgate in Tier 1.

Honestly,

JQ and SOS’s best ain’t got nothing on SoR’s forum warriors. Whoever is left in Tier 1 after this week, prepare to be blown away. I’m not being sarcastic. Its a sight to behold.

BTW GoF, LW and others that came over, we are happy to have you as well. You’ve helped us keep numbers on 3 maps in NA. Still have some room before ques on more than 2 maps, but the difference is quite evident, you guys fight hard, and help the rest of us keep fighting hard.

EDIT: See? lol (He posted while I was writing).

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Exactly my point. SoS stands the test of time whilst other servers are temporary. I’m putting my money on BG being the next server to plummet in ranking.
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Your going to lose that money then bro.

BG ain’t going no where. If we slip to 4th place, we’ll be pushing rating hard from there, ready to force the next server down the week later.

But if things continue you never know what will happen in Tier 1.

EDIT: Stupid quote…too tired to fix.

SoSBL Hills. If you were there, you know what happened.

One word. EPIC

Ohai.8346:

Kirbyprime.2645:

Problem is, their overall weekly coverage is fairly high so they can chase and surpass BG easily enough. That is, assuming that BG didn’t get some major guild infusion.

I wouldn’t bet on SoS dropping to T2 until Thursday night.

SoS has never been stacked, we always had 1 map close to empty and 1 half full. BG brought in 3 big guilds this week, and JQ around 13 major guilds.
The competition is not possible for SoS now and our numbers can not compete with those of the recruit servers.
Gonna be a borefest for JQ for the next forever when the transfer locks hit on Monday. They overkilled it, simple as that. All they needed was a couple solid guilds, not 13+
HoD 2.0 just like prx said on their internal forums that they were going to create, they dislike competition only winning no matter the costs.

How many guilds did SoS bring in? I can think of several, but I am no expert.

split.3659:

SoS and JQ:
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to push BG out of T1. If you choose to accept this mission, you may be accused of double teaming. You will have to play nicely with those you call the enemy. But in the end, you will have the satisfaction of pushing BG out of T1 and facing a truly worthy opponent. SoR wants our taste of T1.

This message will not self destruct in 30 seconds.

Maybe you should earn you way into Tier 1 like BG did, instead of asking others to do your work for you. The only reason your close at all is taking advantage of SBI’s high rating when they all stacked to your server, well their rating is down now.

And then you have the audacity to come in here and ask for more help.

Do you need help from 3 out of the top 5 servers to beat BG?

JQQed so much they crashed BGBL when we had inner gate at 5%.

LOL

ICoa stands firm for BG (and Fiesty is ours you can’t have).

BG is catching its collective breath for the next few hours before the plunge on reset night.

SoS and JQ had to burn the midnight oil for the race to 1st. Lets see how tired they are tonight! :P

Like this?

jojojoon.8607:

Kunagisa.7361:

jojojoon.8607:

I’m not sure if you even believe what you are typing. Are you trying to tell BG to play for second? You do know that any server that plays for second place WILL NEVER win 1st place right?

What’s wrong with playing for second when your server’s recruiting? If you show you have staying power it helps the recruiting process. Playing for second for one week is fine, nobody’s telling BG to play for second forever.

In fact, isn’t that one of the things that JQ’s proud of? Being in T1 since the beginning?

If I’m a leader of a PVE guild that wants casual wvw, I would probably join the bottom tiers. If I’m a leader of a competitive wvw guild, I would look at the servers on the top tier. Would I choose a server that gives up easily and plays for 2nd place or would I choose a server that may not be as strong as their competition but has a “never give up” attitude and willing to fight for 1st place?

Kaineng is probably not as strong as any of the tier 1 servers at the moment but guilds are transferring there. Why? Their goal is to be the best server. In other words, they’re always playing for 1st place.

Playing for 2nd place this week may actually hurt BG’s chances to recruit since many of the top guilds may see them as a server that gives up easily.

I’m not even sure what this means LOL. You have to get 2nd place before you get 1st place. We fight and take stuff from whoever we think we can take stuff from. Thats the bottom line. If you think all the commanders of BG across all 24 hours got together and were like “hmm this week, lets not try to go up in rating” your out of your mind. We’ll take rating from JQ or SoS we don’t play politics, we play GW2.

Stop trying to put a bad spin on BG using some trumped up “playing for second” quack theory whenever a JQ tower turns red.