Guild Wars 2

D/D thief doesn’t stand a chance against s/f fresh air ele.
non condi engineers don’t stand a chance against s/f fresh air ele.
You simply cannot win against something that completely counters you.

As we have seen in the livestream, the sneak gyro can BARELY keep up with you. It isn’t always close to you

Chaith.8256:

Kaizoku.1298:

Scrapper’s amount of healing (without healing power)
If you run “shocking speed” and “rapid regeneration” and do 3 leaps in a water field (hammer #3 on 10sec CD) you get an amount of healing equal to 5625 in 3 seconds.

3 leap finishers in a water field = 3900
3 seconds of superspeed + swiftness = 1725

I also plan on using “streamlined kits” toolkit effect and slick shoes (toolbelt – 5 secs of superspeed). And there are even more ways to get superspeed
I am so tempted to play the scrapper and find out how good it is !

You’re missing something pretty fundamental here,

Shocking Speed (3s Superspeed) only procs off of leaping or blasting a Lightning Field, not a Water Field like you are doing.

Oh right. However it doesn’t change the fact that scrappers can do 3 leaps in a water field and have superspeed at the same time.

Novuake.2691:

No. Geez, thats insane.

Yeah lol…

“As title says. I don’t see why it shouldn’t.”
What the kittening kitten ?

Inexor.7804:

Do leap finisher actually occur if you jump around in the field, never crossing the borders or only if you jump in and out of a field?

It occurs even if you keep staying in the field

Killyox.3950:

Question is what gear will scrapper go for if he;s more of a bruiser than assassin;p
Soldier + zerk 50/50 ?

I’d go full berserker like always. Now I get more sustain like eles so I am confident I won’t be risking a hell of a lot when I’m in wvw

Ronin.5038:

I guess you could add on super elixir, elixir shell, healing turret and regeneration. All of which are group wide.
Backpack regenerator can also be counted if you go alchemy.

Yeah hahah if we go all the way we could have a TON of healing

Killyox.3950:

He is supposed to be a bruiser so he needs sustain. That’s also if you combo with waterfield and nothing else. 1 good daze from leap can save you 4k+ dmg as well

Exactly, you don’t always go for the water field. However, if you can survive another 10 seconds after you do the finisher in say a lightning field, you can then heal yourself in a waterfield for a hefty amount.

Scrapper’s amount of healing (without healing power)
If you run “shocking speed” and “rapid regeneration” and do 3 leaps in a water field (hammer #3 on 10sec CD) you get an amount of healing equal to 5625 in 3 seconds.

3 leap finishers in a water field = 3900
3 seconds of superspeed + swiftness = 1725

I also plan on using “streamlined kits” toolkit effect and slick shoes (toolbelt – 5 secs of superspeed). And there are even more ways to get superspeed
I am so tempted to play the scrapper and find out how good it is !

I am confident to say no. That would be far too strong.

Nah, reveal just has to be a toolbelt skill

Seriously what the kitten ? Also the bulwark gyro and sneak gyro…
I know the other ones are bad but they will eventually get buffed, probably before HoT release.
Anyway, function gyro gives you another option for stomping/ress. What’s wrong with that ? Sure it is an AI and not so reliable but it does not make you unable to stomp as well.. Even if the downed player can kill it before it stomps, it is still good.

As for the bulwark gyro, it is a kittening insta cast 50% damage reduction and has around 13k HP. If you know something big is coming and don’t have enough endurance you can just use that gyro and take low damage. Of course it dies so fast, but if traited it leaves a lightning field, dazes, gives super speed (godly if traited) etc. Just use it the second you need it.
With protection, it’s 83% reduction ? Not so sure.

Now the sneak gyro… First of all, it is an insta cast skill. most players need to target you to actually hit you with their strong skills, and this breaks their skill rotation.
Stealth and then use hammer #5 (thunderclap) aoe stunning and leaving lightning field for more dazes (hammer #3). People can’t see your skill animation, use it to your advantage.
Toolbelt skills are nice too.
Also even though the shredder gyro might not be that useful for power builds, it is pretty good for condis. However it isn’t useful against kiters.
Hope I didn’t miss anything

Totally agree with you

Thanks a bunch !

Yes, it’s possible.

I missed the PoI today, can anyone give me a link when someone uploads ? Wedding stuff :/

Kodama.6453:

Frightlight.3796:

Defender runes instant aegis when you use a heal skill plus huge burst heal when you block an attack its what im gonna roll with till a better rune set shows its face.

Well, but that wasn’t the topic. ^^

How do you feel about the reflection?

Any reflection skill is welcome, mate.

Wall E.5349:

Kaizoku.1298:

Nubu.6148:

SD scrapper .

All I want.

It could be interesting I guess. BUT only if they fix SD and after 3 years of complaining I kinda don’t expect them to. Right now the lightning from SD needs to be manually targeted with your line of sight if your toolbelt skill isn’t an enemy-targeting attack skill. And from the looks of it, all the gyro toolbelt skills aren’t =/

I am pretty sure that was intended. It’s easy mangyang I just autoattack and then use the toolbelt skill, that way your character faces your target so you will hit with SD

Nubu.6148:

SD scrapper .

All I want.

Headcase.4618:

I hope they don’t make us choose between the “Perfectly Weighed” and the “Final Salvo” traits cuz I want to use both.

I think both of them are grandmasters

If gyros are movable like ventari’s tablet, we gon confuse people mangyangs deeeem

Mord.9237:

tobascodagama.2961:

Re Sneak Gyro being visible: so are Shadow Refuge and Veil.

The gyro will constantly be the person who has their feet sticking out of the curtains when trying to hide….

unless the gyros don’t necessarily always have to follow you

Nyth.3492:

Arantheal.7396:

Kodama.6453:

Extremely awesome. Well, it seems like the functional gyroscope is destroyable. If so and it is dying as fast as our turrets, it won’t be able to deliver just a single stomp. ^^

Jupp, that’s the last concern I have. If they tell me they’re indestructible, but interruptable I’m a happy engi.

Ye I’m really curious about this.

The ideal would be if they are interruptable but not destroyable; but that might also be too strong.
Maybe something more likely would be that they are immune to damage when they hover around you and when you send them out to do stuff, they become destroyable.
Or maybe they’ll make it so that they only take direct damage and no AoE cleave.

Guess we’ll know by this time tomorrow.

“Each gyro model has a limited amount of fuel before it detonates or is destroyed in a hail of dazing sparks.”

Guys we know for sure that gyros can be killed.
" Each gyro model has a limited amount of fuel before it detonates or is destroyed in a hail of dazing sparks."

I doubt gyros will be as “useless” as turrest if they CAN get destroyed by attacks, because it kittening explodes and theres a trait that makes it stun enemies I believe

Silinsar.6298:

Random thoughts:

• Traits definitely make engi a more potent melee, though I’m a bit worried about how it’ll do vs kiters.

We got tons of super speed to deal with kiters.

Rage Cube.4573:

Kaizoku.1298:

I’m eager to learn how the fuel system works. I hope we can have a maximum amount of 3 gyros like Herald’s facets uptime.

It really just sounds like they gave them a timer (Fuel) as a replacement to being destructible.

ANet knows they couldn’t just be mobile turrets. Everyone would rage.

Ahhh right.. If only they showed us cooldowns and cast times

Rozbuska.5263:

Sneak gyto and its toolbelt. What can I say more then RIP teefs:-P I am excited more and more.

ikr ! I hope we can use that sneaky sneak gyro all the time !

I’m eager to learn how the fuel system works. I hope we can have a maximum amount of 3 gyros like Herald’s facets uptime.

GrandHaven.1052:

WEXXES.2378:

Time to quit OP, rofl.

If that’s the reason to quit, the problem doesn’t lie in engineer getting new AI based stuff.

Wasn’t being serious about quitting.

Now that the time has come, the big boi kitten dem pants eh ? heheh

Block is a terrible idea, it is a kittening 4 seconds root…. Seriously wtf are you guys thinking this is a kittening free 7 hit phoenix = insta death !

I remember reading something about engis (scrapper) getting something similar to adrenaline bar. Maybe that’s a fuel bar for our drones?

Kidel.2057:

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

If you’re standing still, and they’re standing still waiting for you to become unrooted, they’re a sitting duck as well, no?

Or they can heal up or stack might. An Ele can even do both in 4 seconds.

Or use unblockable attacks on a sitting duck.

Crystal Hibernation is now blocking, meaning it really makes you a sitting duck… Imagine fighting s/f power ele, you give the ele a free phoenix hit. Which can go up to 6-7 hits dealing MASSIVE damage. I am totally against this…

Knighthonor.4061:

WTF!!! Unyielding Anguish nerfed!!

Man this making me not want to spend points in anything other than Herald even more now…

Man this class as a whole is a joke,,, come on… these legend are terrible besides Herald…

Buffed !! man !

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Thanks you all, means a lot!

Yeah, nicely done !
Also giving the Revenant another main-hand would be great ! Especially scepter, kinda like that of the guardian (not all skills are projectiles). That way, we’d have more variety and have some more FUN!

Resistance after revealed would be great. D/D thieves are hard countered by s/f eles (blind mostly), not being able to hit cloak&dagger is a pain…

Enrif.7359:

Facet of Elements and Facet of Chaos want to talk with you.

Against players, Facet of Chaos is hard to land and Elements won’t hit.

Shield #4 removing 2 condis would help a lot. Or at least 1 ?

Facet of Strength just feels weak, it’s the only real damage dealing utility skill the Dragon Stance has.

Daniel.4763:

I didn’t even pkay the Berserker. When I saw that this “specialized” profession’s Elite skill was a headbutt that stuns all involved, it felt so underwhelming that I lost all interest. They should rename that skill “Numbskull”.

Are you kittening me ? That skill is god-like.

I bought that edition too, however I don’t think you can equip it yet.

Will there ever be an open beta ?

Sword #2 inflicts 2+ seconds of chill. I can’t ask for more ! This is a very good buff.

Facet-like skills on forge ? Lots of instant activation skills would be perfect, and drones won’t necessarily be AI, just like facets.

assassin.7895:

Why would I dodge that attack? It doesn’t always do 3k. I have weakness, blind, invis, teleport, CC etc. etc.

Yeah CC, weaken and blind someone who is evading attacks…..

Will I be able to do raids if I don’t have HoT ?

You can now play beta weekend.

It should be up in about less than an hour

Add something that shows damage dealt to bosses for example :
1) hotdog – 10 damage
2) ketchup – 9.7 damage
3) mustard – 6
4) egg – 5.5
5) bread – 5.5

It’ll be pretty fun and useful

Aren’t we getting more beta character slots this weekend ?