Guild Wars 2

Generalchowder.1472:

@ Malediktus

Sorry, let me clarify what I meant by “play a guardian right.”

I did not mean a cookie-cutter spec, I just meant that if you learn when to dodge, when to change weapons, when to back off, when to heal, etc, you will find that you can survive just about anything. And we all know that the longer you stay alive, the longer you buff your allies, DPS enemies, CC, etc.

Do you understand that you can say the same about every class? Take a necromancer, with 4 minions, huge hp pool, a lot of skills to heal, a lot of ranged weapons and death shroud. I’m sure it’s easier with it, but you probably never tried. The funniest part is that with the litch form a necro doubles his/her hp, going around 50k hp at level 80.

Also we are not saying that the guardian is a weak piece of dirt, we are saying that close to a guardian, every class is superior to it (except another guardian, of course).

Are you trying to say that your guardian in better than a warrior with your buffs? I don’t think so. It’s simply impossible since all the mitigation/power of a guardian comes from boons, and almost every guardian boon is applied to nearby players.

And don’t talk abour WvW, where guardians can ONLY be a support class (no escape means, no cripple, no ranged).

Kal.2376:

The problem is that if they change the guardian to be less support, with more striking power and survivability, you’ll end up with something similar to a warrior…. Anet may have cornered themselves with the warrior and guardian designs a bit…

I don’t want guardian to be less focused on support. I just want to get some advantages by supporting others that makes tha guardian similar to another random class buffed by a guardian.

the equation is very simple.
at the moment it is like:
guardian + guardian buffs < random class + guardian buffs

i want it to be:
guardian + guardian buffs + x = random class + guardian buffs

where x = random class – guardian

so the difference in stats between any class and the underpowered guardian without buffs.

obviously giving the guardian the stats of a warrior all the time will make it extremely overpowered, so I’m NOT suggesting this.
As I said I’d like the stat or healing bonus to be a REWARD for buffing OTHERS, so in a group the guardian can be more similar to other classes in term of stats.

No, that’s not my point. I personally think that guardian is a great solo class.
I’m saying that in a group, the guardian gains the same benefits he has in solo, while the others gain guardian’s benefits. I think it’s great, but somehow that makes the guardian basically a supporter.

- We have lower hp then almost every class (that, again, gains our same damage mitigation, plus their own ways).
- We can’t be ranged.
- We are not the best dps and as pure melee dps we are too frail compared to others.
- We can’t reach running enemies (come on, rangers have a AOE RANGED skill that cripples).

I’m just saying I’d like the guardian to get more options. What I’m suggesting is not difficult to implement and not unreasonably overpowered (and also doesn’t change the way guardian is played as solo class). Power up altruistic healing (heals for each buff on allies, but at the moment it’s kinda meh) and/or give a virtue (only passive) that raises guardian stats when it lays buffs on allies, so that we are somehow strong as a player buffed by a guardian (since our stats are lower) and 2 guardians can benefit from buffing each other.

And also, please, a ranged weapon.

Kal.2376:

I still think they are fine… For the people that want to play support

That’s it. Unfortunately ANet said that in guild wars 2 every class can aim for every role. Guardian only shines as a boon support class.

Even our elite skills prove that, since the only decent one is tome of courage.

Kal.2376, unfortunately Guardians armor stat is low too (with the same toughness), even if I wear heavy armor I still have almost the same armor stat as my necro friend. Total damage you can sustain is HP*Armor, and this is way lower on a guardian compared to warrior or necro.

Also Aegis can mitigate 3-4 hits every 40 seconds, that is not so much compared to death shroud, and please get my point: almost every Aegis you put is AOE, wich means that every class can benefit from you

Again, I think is great that guardian is so helpful, but that’s all it can do.
Once you Aegis all your group, wich one is stronger and can tank or dps? Having all guardian’s aegis, the other classes result stronger.

Example: death shroud is not aoe. only the necro benefits from it. So a guardian can only have aegis, while a necro can have guardian’s aegis + death shroud.

The same can be said with every class. While 2 guardians don’t really benefit from each other, cause burn and aegis don’t stack in intensity.

Also all a warrior needs to tank is a guardian, while you have to give up on damage using mace+focus (still being inferior to warriors and tank necros imo, since they can benefit from your buffs).

Happy you agree on your lack of options.
At the moment, all we can do is buff. Once the party is buffed, the guardian is the weakest class and can’t even dps properly compared to some other classes.
We can’t even go ranged.

I don’t have a vit build, but I still have more vit then my necro friend and I have 13.5k hp, while she has 20k hp AND death shroud.

You can also test it yourself with a build editor.

Guardian has almost the lowest hp in this game because of the “damage mitigation” (but why the hell should I need a damage mitigation if I have DOUBLE hp? No need to say that every class can benefit from the same damage mitigation if a guardian is nearby, because every active guardian buff is aoe, even from traits)

I agree with the OP.

atm guardians can’t go ranged at all and they’re also weaker in a group where everybody can benefit from guardian buffs, since guardians have lower stats compared to almost every class in the game (half hp of a necro or a warrior, lower atk with the same power stat, lower armor)

Trident damage and targeting suck badly. spear damage is higher, but still low, and has useless skills.

Trungalung.7850:

Thunderfury 2.0

Good job. That’s inspiring.

Please add your opinions in this thread too: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/please-give-guardian-higher-stats/first#post153247

Just another question. Have you ever heard of a pro guardian or a good guardian build that uses scepter (the only “ranged” we have) as main weapon?

Also, in a party where you have a warrior and a guardian, wich one would you pick to be the tank? unless the warrior has a frail dps build, i’d pick him, since the guardian can buff the warrior and the warrion has his own damage mitigation, dps and higher stats (also double hp and ranged weapons)

Shimond.2478:

Most of our offensive weapons (sword, greatsword, scepter) have some form of gap closing ability on them, as well.

1 hit only. Unless you don’t deal 20k damage it’s almost useless. The opponent can take the hit (or avoid/block it) and keep running. Try to use a ranger or a mesmer and see the difference.
Leap of faith also has some huge bugs at the moment and fails most of the time.

The lack of cripple and ranged weapons is a great issue (expecially the latter).

also: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/please-give-guardian-higher-stats/first

Metal.3826
That’s because events are incredibly easy. Also a guardian is strong, but just weaker then the other classes whan they benefit from guardian’s buffs (and, again, has no ranged weapons, but they’re almost useless during most of pve contents).

Tom Gore.4035, i’m actually asking for more hp and/or a little bit more reward when buffing and, please, a DECENT ranged weapon. Just try to play WvW as guardian (no cripple, just 1 gap closing ability per weapon, no ranged weapons, no escape means).
At the moment guardian is also the only class that can’t be ranged. It’s unfair.

Also I personally find ridiculous that a necromancer has 2x times guardian’s hp PLUS death shroud.

Those little improvements will not make guardian OP, but they’d give it more options, not just a underpowered dps or a buffing machine, but also a solid dps, a tank and a ranged dps/buffer.

Lot of people are suggesting to give guardians a bow. There is an easier solution. Just make scepter auto attack more like the bow auto attack, and maybe increase staff auto attack range.

Come on, warriors can use a rifle and have twice our hp.
Just imagine guardian+warrior versus 2 guardians.

Agent Noun.7350, I also stated that guardians have a lot of buffs to mitigate damage or absorb it, but please note that every ally close to the guardian benefits from those buffs, wile a guardian close to another one doesn’t (because they don’t stack).
After tha guardian has buffed him/herself and nearby allies, the guardian is weaker compared to them.

to me Guardian seems underpowered compared to other classes.

- (with the same base stats) has half the hp of a necro and also no death shroud and can’t benefit from other guardians (cause burning and most of the buffs do not stack).

- can’t be compared to a mesmer in pvp (do i need to explain?)

- doesn’t have a ranged weapon (scepter? ahahah. staff? not ranged)

guardians shine as support class, but that’s not what i really expected from guild wars 2.

Just reached level 80 as Guardian and I found out that I’m usually the weakest in my group. I mean, I can provide great support, and all my buffs affect my allies, but after we are all buffed, I’m weakest, since Guardian’s stats are the lowest and I don’t gain any real benefit myself from buffing others (Altruistic Healing is too weak). Guardians rely on virtues/buffs, but all my buffs are aoe and this, even if it makes Guardians important, also makes them weaker compared to nearby allies.

ANet said this game has no fixed roles. Well, Guardian seems just a giant buffer to me at the moment.

- We can’t be ranged (scepter aa sucks and staff is not really ranged)
- We can’t really be a dps (can’t be compared to mesmer or other classes with guardian buffs, also in pvp)
- We can’t be the better tank (compare it to a warrior with guardian buffs).

Atm the Guardian only shines as a support class. Not what I wanted from GW2.

In my group, we almost have the same equips (my equip is actually a little bit better) and I have the highest base stats (power, precision, ..), but when it comes to actual stats, i’m the weakest (got less attack, armor, health then my necro friend, that has lower power/vitality… i have almost half hp and no death shroud, lol).

“But Guardians have a lot of aegis and damage mitigation!”
So have my party members (or every nearby ally): they get all my aegis/protect/regen/might/retaliation escept from “save yourself”.
They can have all Guardian buffs from a Guardian, plus their own.
Unfortunately a Guardian gains nothing from another Guardian, because buffs do not stack (not even burning does, to be honest).

Of course i don’t mind buffing others. i’ma a Guardian, I must protect my friends, but I can’t just be a buffer and watch my allies do all the damage or the tanking job cause they have my buffs+better stats+other means to survive (come on… death shroud, minions, illusion, …)

My suggestion is to give Guardian some more bonuses when he/she gives buffs to others, or higher stats (the health is just too low, it’s ridicuolus).
I’m already using a build that allows me to gain hp for each buff I add on me or allies, that is great (i give aoe might each time a crit, lol), but the hp given is just too low (72 hp for each buff at the moment).

Please, give us another passive virtue with some more unique bonuses or higher stats.
Give us different (and not underpowered) roles.

Or, if you want an easy solution, make Altruistic Healing stronger.

Thanks.

Just hit level 80. Cheap rare set with a lot of transmutations.

It’s not there anymore.

Hounds of Balthazar is pretty useful if you are a solo player. As a guardian with a buffer/dps build, i find that having a couple of allies i can buff is pretty useful. they also deal way more damage then any other guardian alite, and also more then the mistfire wolf (that i also have and i think it’s quite powerful if you can’t use the hounds)

Before the game was released I watched the professions videos/trailers on the official site. The guardian there was wielding a scepter that was like a sword made of blue light in battle mode.

Is that weapon still in this game, or it was just a concept?

the wolf also has a stun charge.

They both have the same cooldown and duration and they’re both cool summoning skills. But wich one is the best in terms of reliability and damage?

I’ve tested that the Mistfire Wolf can easily solo mobs 5 levels above it with no help (i’m level 60 now, and so the wolf) and has access to a short range aoe skill that he uses very often, but I don’t have the Hounds yet to test them myself.

I always use 2 monitors and I’ve never experienced this. I’ve also tried to reproduce it as you said, but the game is still fine. I play in fullscreen mode (not windowed fullscreen), accessing the second monitor minimizing the game with alt+tab.

Can you provide some more informations, like graphic card and resolution (windowed, windowed fullscreen, fullscreen)?

Same here. Finally.

Thanks devs.

Join the club: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Purchased-DDU-Mistfire-Wolf-still-greyed-out-Merged

not 350+ comments, but 180 is a lot considering that it’s not sticky (and people spent real money on it)

RaiVa.5643:

Ok as someone said early, Give a refund to all off us , so we can buy again the upgrade with a level 1 character , activate the Digital upgrade and then we can delete that level 1 toon.
Just Saying

I’ve already asked if that’s possible to the customer support. I’m waiting for the reply.

Unik.2043:

Ok this is bull**** i pretty much brought it for that reason alone and i am not getting what i payed for, its been over two weeks now. I want a full refund for this now as its been way too long, i don’t even want it anymore.

I can understand you. I wanted to play with it since level 30 to have fun leveling up, I don’t care about using it on a level 80 character that needs more serious skills to survive the end game. Going to be pretty much useless to me if they don’t fix it really soon (and saying “soon” i mean “yesterday”).

A full refund, if it takes too long, is what i’d want too.

I don’t care about a 5 day personal banker (I’d understand a “forever” personal banker, but 5 days in a game where you can teleport to the bank in every map…) or the other stuff. I just wanted this stupid cool skill.
There is nothing else worth in this DDU and at level 80 you don’t need the wolf.

And the fact that they are still selling it… I’m sure it goes against some laws.

You’re doing nothing wrong. The quest is bugged. Be sure to have every objective marked as completed before the cavern with the wrecked ships and the green mini-boss.

I also noticed thet on my 4th attempt (the lucky one) I had the gelly monster spawn in the room just before the one where you dive.

Had this issue yesterday. I jumped into the water and teleported to a waypoint from there.

4 days without an update.

What about giving the 2000 gems back so we can buy the DDU again from another character and get the skill on our main? (or just don’t buy it at all until it’s fixed)

Getting the other really useful (please, get my irony) objects shouldn’t matter, since you’ve stolen our money here.

I’m pretty sure that this case could be a bad advertisement for gw2 if it becomes a legal issue.

Succeded at the 4th attempt. I just slowed down until every quest objective was marked as done BEFORE going to the mini-boss, sometimes walking over the same place multiple times. A green arrow appeared on the mini map and every objective was cleared (without any duplicates this time) before going into the boss room (when a final objective appears).

Keep trying for now. Hope this helps.

Same problem here.

Repeating the quest made me realize that the bug occurs because one of the objectives is repeated 2 times (not always the same one)

DavidOrtiz.7165:

Hi everyone.

We are fully aware of the issue and the dev team is working on a fix that will be applied retroactively to all your characters, but we still don´t have an estimate time for it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Can’t you use a GM tool to manually activate the skill to the users who contacted the support center? Until this is globally fixed at least.

That’s a serious issue. People are paying real money for that.

also Fire elementals wing flapping noise seems too loud after the last update.

Is it just me or fire elementals and fire imps are way too noisy when flapping their wings?

we should daily bump this thread

Necro is not a Ranger. Has way more ways to survive and deal damage compared to Rangers, so it wouldn’t be fair to make minions like pets (a minion master could have 5-10 minions at the same time). Necromancer has Death Shroud, Ranger has the Pet bar.
Also, why do you care if the golem attacks mobs? Just let it die. It’s how it is.

Necro minions are still far better then the other types of minions (excluding ranger’s pets), also because they don’t expire like spiritual weapons, elementals or clones.

A little AI improvement doesn’t hurt, I agree, but a minion bar is far too much.

If you don’t like how minions work, just don’t be a minion necromancer. There are a lot of (better) builds that don’t use minions at all (or just have 1-2 to deal free damage and take some hits).

Death Shroud is your strongest weapon, not minions. You’re not Rangers.
If you want to control your minions, give up to Death Shroud (= be a Ranger and charm ugly creatures)

(IMO)

I totally agree with Tricia.5204
Solve this problem, or at least add a notice in the market.

This regards real money. It should have priority over fixing Zealot’s Fervor (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Update-Notes-September-9th-2012).
Also it shouldn’t be hard to fix it for players who already made the purchase. We have the skills on newly created characters, but not on the one used to buy the expansion. Just do a query to mass activate it on bugged characters.

Fun fact: I have the skill on my other characters, but not on my main (the only one past level 30 and also the one I used to make the purchase).

Also you don’t need to be level 30+ to unlock this skill, but just to use it.

Same here. Level 34 with 2 elite skills, but no wolf.
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