Guild Wars 2

Weapons don’t count when you have a tooltip equipped, so I doubt a shield would be an exception.

I think any kit completely replaces your weapons, shield and all.

Valador.3461:

Haku.5068:

The issue is that bunkers need to die 1v1.

Really? And who the kitten are you to say who should lose a 1v1?

I think the point is that ALL need to die 1v1… he’s simply including bunkers in that balance.
I doubt he is saying a bunker should die in every actual 1v1 fight…

Was it worth the money?
Yes, I think it was.

Was it as good as I hoped?
Doesn’t seem so, bit underwhelmed by a lot of things I hoped to be better…

Either way: bit too early to tell for me.

If we keep picking on the grammar and language used, it will be definitely be the last time anyone will officially reply in a casual conversation.
Fully edtited and structured official statements will be all we get than.

If it was him, than please give him some slack on the whole language thing.
if it wasn’t him, the topic would have been closed by now I think.

Now, if the OP were to start with mentioning the lady before the gentleman, one could easily conclude he is being male chauvenistic piggish about females needing more etiquette guidelines in a game.

Maybe slow down on the editing a bit OP.

Loxias, since the OP started out by writing for the ‘gentlemen’ only, I assume he is a gentleman himself.

Therefore, not by gaming etiquette, but by common politeness, it should surely be:

A Lady’s and Gentleman’s guide…

Aside the grammatical point you make of course.

Keep on editing OP

I did understand Fatal, but I truely believe communication is linked to an exisiting community, that shared feeling of doing the same thing together.

Jack of Tears.9458:

Kimbald.2697:

The arrogance…

I’m quoting someone else there, (Raven Paradox, above) so I’d prefer you cut my name off your quote of my quote when you start getting irate at people.

My sincere apologies!
The quoting you did appears different than the usual quoting here.

I did read through the posts, but that one slipped by me, untill i saw it at your post between those arrows.
I simply took it for your own suggestion, emphasised with those arrows…

Of course I took your name of, and again: sorry.

And to add: I might want to rephrase that first line, coming out overly aggressive indeed.
The rest of my post I stand by, but no reason to get all defensive over it either on my part.

Those are other options.
but they say nothing about game balance.

If, for the sake of argument, a thief can kill 3 players, than when a thief comes you can also run and get another point.

For the record: you are very very right, but this doesn’t solve the issue in any way.

Game balance kicks in when the used scenario is: what happens if you fight?

Revenant.2691:

I agree, Kim, but the “get it out the door and fix it later” is pretty much industry standard now. Happened with Mass Effect, Skyrim, TSW, SWTOR… maybe not as bad as this, but still.

Short of getting all gamers to boycott the entire industry until this changes, we’re just going to have to grin and bear it.

Blizzard and Anet played a game here, or rather their marketing devisions did.
MoP and GW2 were set up to like chess pieces.
In the end both were rushed.

It’s no coincidence MoP came out just when the novelty of GW2 was bound to wear of a bit.

This is relevant for this topic in the an important way:
little things like this cloak got dropped in the race of both stalling and rushing.

If any of these companies would claim they didn’t let ‘that other game’ decide their pace, I stop to take any of their business communication serious…

Since this appears to be a team game, I would like to ask the following:

- apparantly many agree on the fact that a bunker guardian takes 2 to take him down.
For the reason of this not being a 1v1 game I guess.

- so if it’s really a team game, we must assume that guardian has at least 1 helper too.

- so… if those 2 come to kill the guardian, and he has 1 helper.

will the bunker die?

Rise.9702:

Well OP. We know. Did not need to make another thread out of the thousands we have with the same things. Come back again at a 1 month or 2 for check ups and see how the game is doing. I said it once I’ll say it again. The game just launched, expect mistakes the game IS huge and all. Take care for now though.

Rise, I’m quoting you but please don’t see my reaction as an attack on you personally. I just feel like I should react here.

You mention you see many posts about this very lack of more incentives in the game, which is true: there are many.
Well, I also see many posts stating how wonderfully bliss this game is. I see ‘thank you’ posts for bringing out bug fixing patches, and many more like that.

Both types of posts have a valid reason to be here.
Both types of posts show the concerns of the community playing this game.

If you don’t want to hear another post about one sides’ grieves, than please also tell the other side to stop posting.
We also know it by now: people are enjoying the game, no need for another post about it…

This is a forum for feedback and discussion.
Both sides are needed.

I can’t say I share all of the OP’s concerns. And no, this is not a hidden way to say the OP should L2P.
But I do feel helpless in a lot of fights. Yes I am saying I should L2P…

So thanks for the tips given by several posters, really helpfull.

They are the one thing in this game, really in-game I mean, that remind me of the fact that they are trying to sell stuff for real life money too.

I mentioned it above: it gives me the same feeling as a goldsellers spam mail…

This said: I welcome any suggestion made to actually make them usefull.
But it does feel like asking the goldsellers to give you things for free, doesn’t it?

I still don’t understand that bit about ‘only if the last tick hits, you get the burn…’
it simply feels so odd and out of place.

Why did they have to take the difficult route here?
Just make it hit from the start… plain and simple.

I’m trying to use it in pvp, and bursting out a big flame but not hurting anyone in the end, it feels sort of ‘what the heck, my torch is malfunctioning’.
As an engineer I should be able to get it working, right?

Have only been doing pugs so far, but they are a much better sign of the spontanous communication in pvp than when you enter with your own team.

Last night I did about 15 maps or so I think, I saw exactly ONE person say something at a certain point. That’s it… just that one.

Now it’s very true that if you start the communication yourself, others often follow. But in general the /team chat is completely silent.
No one cares, it seems.

Cosmetic rewards are ok for me, allthough other things could be added without breaking balance.

What astounishes me is the fact I expected tons of variations in pvp challenges in this game.

Granted: WvW is epic… which also makes it a pure zerg and spam fest.
But ok, it’s big and different and can be real fun.

The maps for point captures are quite well made, real nice how the points are close, yet the terrain is very creative int these relative small area’s.
I really really like those maps.

But it does start to bore me already that it’s always the same game, over and over and over again…
No capture the flag or anything else, just that one game.

On top of this the structure of these maps do seem to reward zerging more than anything. Almost every fight is imbalanced in numbers. But this of course, is rather typical of these kinds of battles.
Nothing the developpers can do about that one.

What they could do is create battles with different objectives, not just whoever has the most players at any given point…

11) Revive someone that is in front of you and being attacked by a ranger with a longbow so they can get up without being forced to call you a moron. Seriously, people say they didn’t rez me because I lashed at them, yet I wait a bit before I say “umm… help?” and get fierce. Those are the types of people that actually do need to go back to WoW.<<

This comes across rather arrogant, sorry to say…
As if in WoW people are never polite, gratefull or helpfull.

The WoW community consists of human beings, and a few bots, just like GW2.
What makes you think all WoW players are rude or demanding?
Of course there are those, but to simply state that WoW is where those people belong is so incredibly biased of you.

The list contains just that, that one rule. A variation of nr 4.
I was afraid, upon reading that one rule, that this is the one that many who were supporting this list, would actually break…
And you just did.

Note: you might say it is a joke, but that’s the kind of jokes that gentlemen or ladies don’t make…

What puzzles me is that we’re actually saying they should make them good first, before implementing them.
Are we on beta still?

It’s not some pvp imbalance that only pops up on live fights or anything.
It’s a cosmetic feature they planned from the start.

At this point bugs are more important, and a lot of other pressing matters.
But it simply shouldn’t have taken this long, sorry.

Of course I don’t fully agree on every point made, but that’s because I’m quite capable of making my own decisions in the social game of life.
Transferring this to a virtual life comes natural.

No one can hide who he is in an anonymous game…

If you need a guide for this, than you’re doing something wrong in real life…

By this apparantly negative comment I mean:
this guide is either common sense to you, or it is wasted on you anyhow.

It’s a fun post, but will only reach those who don’t need it.

Aeros, isn’t the point that glory farmers determine how a pvp battle is played?
More than whatever the heck they aquire with the farmed glory?

Pvp battles should reward active pvp play, not mechanics that go against the fighting-defending bit.

Arvin.3124:

If you want to drive out a bunker, take at least two teammates if you´re unable to get him off the point alone.

I can agree with the statement: send another build player if you can’t get the guardian yourself, like sending a condition build if you’re burst…
I can not accept the necesity to bring TWO players.

That’s the fine line for me.

Ayestes.1273:

Quickness is flat out unreliable against players that know what they are doing.

this could well be true, not experienced enough to tell.

but if it IS true, than clearly there is no harm in nerfing it.
Still useless for the players that know what they’re doing, and no longer too strong for the rest of us.

The point is not that anyone cares or not about farming glory.

The point is that those farming glory are preventing the others from playing the maps for what they are…

It’s no fun being in a group that just agrees on not doing pvp, just using the map and the system for some boring grind routine.

It’s even worse when they call you out if you do want to pvp… in a pvp encounter.

Personally I do pvp for the fun of it, shiny gear comes second.
Others can join for different reasons, but don’t tell me to drop my pvp fun for your farming of glory points…

You’re probably right Dashel, but again it was a suggestion how it should work for me, not how I think it works now.

Just throwing out possible solutions here.

To me it’s somewhat of a disapointment that there is any build at all that requires more than 1 to take it down.
Just like it’s a disapointment some glass canons are nearly impossible to react to.

There you have 2 factors that ruin any pvp balance for me, but that’s personal of course.

It is comforting though that this doesn’t seem to be the designers intend.

WoW might have a smart respawn system, which it does. but it doesn’t have downscaling obviously.
So I don’t really see the relevance here, aside the ‘high level farmed my mobs’ bit.

As a WoW player myself, I actually love the downscaling because in WoW there is no zone that I couldn’t one-shot everything in my raid gear. MoP won’t change that bit (once you can get raid gear obviously).

Personally I would love WoW to have downscaling too, but that is irrelevant to this thread as well

From what I read the downscaling isn’t working even enough for my liking…
I want it to be really a challenge, no matter your gear, sigils and what not.

I know guardians have conditions removal, it’s not that I don’t agree with you.

My point was: maybe they shouldn’t have…
This would make them survive the burst but not the steady damage.

Retaliation is a problem by itself. It’s weird they got that too.

To me retaliation seems like the perfect defense for a more damage orientated build.
Like: burst me down and it will hurt you. Wait till I wasted it and I’m dead meat… that sort of reasoning.
And not: burst me down and it will hurt you. Wait till I wasted it and you still won’t kill me…

Just started pvp, using a defensive build as engineer.
I like defending, so I tend to stay at captured points.

Usually I end up with very low points, and it’s not that those I’m playing with are that much better than me. Some are of course, many aren’t in any large ammount noticable

I came from a game where getting hk’s was more profitable than going for objectives too.
Rather disappointed to see this works here too.

And yes: it WILL catch on more and more… these things always do.

It’s all personal flavour of course.

I came to this game in large part because of the downscaling.

At max level I want to go out in the world and still have a challenge.
I hate to be restricted to the max level zones alone.
It’s so boring to me to one-shot everything in sight.

If they remove downscaling, as you aks, it’s simply not worth it for me.
having the whole world as a challenge is one of the few things I see myself doing at max level, aside those instances.
It’s not that there is an awfull lot more, is there?

(not mentioning pvp since you can do that at lvl 1 just the same as 80)

Dashel, if a burst can get the bunker down, and the bunker is a bunbker because he can live through burst.
Where does the balancing work on than?

I see what you’re saying, but it has to be either the steady dps, or the burst getting a bunker down.
If neither, than there is a problem.
Which, apparantly, there is now.

Conditions are probably the key here.
And also the reflects you mention.
If you bomb a bunker, that bomb isn’t supposed to bounce back at you

Kalar has a point I think, but maybe more than he realises

My limits to what a bunker should be capable of is: a steady dps should get him down, even if can live through short burst.

I know conditions work against guardians who are defensively build, but can one steady dps really get a good bunker guardian down alone?

I can’t tell myself, not experienced enough here. But from what info i gather: that is exactly the issue here: 1 steady dps can’t…

Isn’t the real issue the usual combo of having too much cc while also being able to unleash that ammount of burst?

Not saying warriors (as example) have that cc. But if another player does the cc’ing, and than the glass canon does the bursting (quickness here) than it doesn’t matter if the opponents have 2 as well. Something is bound to drop apparantly.

And if one class has both the cc and the burst ready… than it’s defenitely going to be a problem.

my own view on this is: remove the burst.
But as a consequence a lot of the melee needs to be revamped somewhat I guess. They do have limited uptime.
This said: this game at least offers every melee to have viable ranged options, kiting only works so far in pvp here.

In my fresh look on GW2, I’m very very new to the game, I think pvp is already fast paced and chaotic enough. it doesn’t need speed burst like quickness added to it.

But yes: that would ask for some rebalancing of those relying on short uptime.

Things that I might miss, just looking at first hand, would be flag capture battles. I really love those.
Not saying they should replace the capture points ones, just be added to it all.

But that’s it right? Capture points and WvW. It’s not that I’m overlooking something?

Last evening I had this idea of getting 2 organised groups in an existing battle map, and all stand together and have 1vs 1 or 2v2 etc battles just in that big area.
Anything goes, but no one else interferes. Run where you want, LoS, do whatever you want but it’s always you vs the other. Be it at whatever nr the particular duel is set out (can be up to 8vs 8 I guess).

Oh, so you’re actually thinking of getting a gamepad ON TOP of your new razer mouse?

I suppose one of those would do the trick, but if you can get both I think you’ll have a bit overkill on binds
Way to go gaming set up though!

Just started with pvp, think I got my first rabbit box last night, so that should tell you how new I am to this.
That box contained a bow my engineer can’t use by the way, which I find very silly as a reward.

When I bought GW2 (after playing both GW1 for several expansions years ago and also a lot of woW) I was looking forward to the pvp variety it should have.

For starters I went to that npc that let’s you join spvp maps based on my experience. It actually put me in a few fights where it was me against 1 other That’s how low my pvp level must have been .
Those maps are all capture points maps. Nice maps by the way, really like the ships and roads and walls, and houses and ruins and all of that. Creative designing here.

But… all capture point maps, right?

I also tried to get in WvW which took ages and than basically my screen exploded.
I’ll certainly do that again, looks like fun but I’ll try to follow small groups next time, that big zerg fest isn’t all that strategic. Or I should just specc grenadier and throw away, all day…

Is this about it?
These 2 variantions I mean: WvW and capture points?

Tournaments aren’t for me yet, obviously, but that’s basically the same capture point maps but than with fixed groups against fixed groups, right?

What am I missing here?
Is there more I can do for pvp?
As I said: I like the maps and I think WvW can be epic or boring at the same time, but I’m wondering what else is there?

Or do you guys simply shine at these 2 things and find them entertaining enough by themselves?
I might too after getting better at it all, just curious

How do you keep it all fresh and entertaining?

using a gaming mouse myself, seems almost necessary for my engineer but that’s probably me being new to it all.

Also: I’m used to this mouse from years using it in WoW, so it kind of grows on you.

I do think you need something for this game though, so if you can move with your keypad, and use most abilities there, while keeping the mouse for targeting and such, it should work.

Not helping you with my reply, my main point is: I can’t imagine playing this game without either a gaming mouse or ’something ’ else

Khronus.8370:

If you are having to literally run away from mobs, you are very bad at this game. I am sorry if this sounds like I am attacking you with this post. This is not my intention! I am just tired of reading people seriously cry about it being TOO HARD to solo?

It is as if you expect everything except events to be solo play. some players like to group up.

Every single class has utilities and a dodge. these used in combonation can get you anywhere in the game alone. Learn.

I don’t want to run away from the mobs, I want to kill them.
That’s where respawn rate kicks in: I need the time to clear. Has nothing to do with learning to play.

Also this: it’s not because some players like to group up, that ALl players should be forced to group up all the time…
It’s a challenge to do go out and do things all alone. Like taking on veterans and getting skill points. Or just wandering around all by myself and tackling whatever I need to tackle.

It’s not because it’s a multiplayer game that it shouldn’t be doable alone, to a large extend.
So your point makes absolutely no sense to me.

If this game was only intended to be played in group, it should have said so on the box.
But i don’t think it is. I just think you’re desperately looking for arguments just for the sake of finding one to defend the game.

I’m in Diessa Plateau too at the moment, glad it wasn’t just my imagination.
been called a liar on these forums for saying I found it too hard by myself and not having enough other players around…

I changed servers halfway through Diessa, and now it’s a bit better but still almost impossible at times.

After playing WoW for years, i’m sort of happy that leather looks like leahter and light armor is.. light.

But I do agree on the lack of variety when leveling.
I really really would love to have a few more choices, or be able to make a few personal combinations.
And i’m not going to put a different look on leveling gear, that seems like a big waste…

Some pieces look nice for me, others don’t. But they all look like what they are supposed to be, which at least is good I think.

My verdict:
More variation: yes.
Happy with the general looks: sure.

The dye option makes up for a lot for me.
I’ve changed colors on gear every 5 or 10 levels I think

Dev designer meeting:

‘no, you can NOT be serious about that model!’
‘that bad?’
‘not necessarily bad… just… euh… different.’
‘Throw it in the legendary heap than, like the others?’
‘Might as well, by the time they get that we’ll have the real models finished’

later on:

‘waaaah, game selling like crazy! Fix bugs, buy servers, read forums’
‘read forums?’
‘kidding, but get on with the rest.’
‘Euh, we still have those legendaires to model…’
‘no time, they’re not there yet. other pressing matters!’

‘guys, players are getting the legendaries;’
‘What? The joke ones?’
‘Afraid so.’
‘…’

vox.5019:

If anything the respawn rates should be raised, I mean as long as I’m going to have to compete with bots that aren’t burdened by having to actually travel between the mobs then I think it’s only fair so that I get a shot at tagging some loot myself.

botting seems to be a real big issue here, so I partially understand what you’re saying.
But I really don’t think the respawn rates are the answer to that. It’s just ruining the fun for players out in the world alone.

I’m not talking events, but if I encounter this one veteran for example, I don’t want to be forced to call for help just to tackle him. On the contrary: it is fun for me to go at him alone!
All I ask is: give me the time to clear the mobs around him first, without them jumping in my back the minute after I killed them…

Botting needs other measures, of which I only really believe in one, the most expensive one for a game designer:
manually removing them…

What I read from the OP is that it’s less a matter of liking them or not. Some do, some don’t.
But it’s all a matter of choice.

If you are going through the trouble for a legendary, than some more choices could be nice.
It’s not about their stats after all, looks are their main selling point.

Let’s hope more models are introduced in the future.
Personally I don’t understand either why such items based on looks, have only so limited options in that… for now.

For me looks are very important in a game. Transmogging got me back into Wow after a break, just that… And I quite like a lot of the customisable features in GW2.
The key word for me here is: diversity.
Customisation of characters should not lead to all looking the same.
Legendaries tend to do that since there aren’t many models.

Alice and Garo: where are your suggestions than?
What do you bring to this thread?

This is not meant as an insult, it’s a friendly question to stay on topic.

Garo.5304:

If you also expected WoW like content, I have bad news for you…

we didn’t, was never mentioned here that we did.

What is so bad about giving suggestions?

Alice.8694:

Kimbald.2697:

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To be honest a lot of the threads I catch you in are about diminishing returns. Full of hype, misinformation, subjective opinion and sensationalism.

These are not conducive methods of giving constructive criticism. They are designed to organise rabble rousing and cause the misinformed to get up in arms about things they don’t understand to try and bully a change through.

This rhetoric is not positive for the community and will not actually achieve anything other than informing the misinformed with negative information.

Being critical is not the same as trying to cause an uproar.
If it is to you, than you’re the one missing something here, not me.

I was in some DR threads, but not to do the things you accuse me of.
My posts are never aimed at being sensational.
The info I gave in the posts here are my own experience at best, so I’m not giving misinformation. I am giving anecdotical information, which i never deny.

Subjective opinion is about the lamest thing to accuse someone of.
What the heck do you think your opinion about me is?
You’re extremely biased and it’s impossible you read my posts with even the slightest hint of being fair to what I wrote.

I’m a very critical person and I see the forums to do just that: provide feedback about the game I bought and like.
If you can’t stand others being critical, just yourself it seems, than don’t bother me with that please.
Your opinion about me is wrong and insulting.

Derwish however… now there’s hope for a next expansion pack.

Youtube should still have the profession description video

Go see for yourself how real that would look in this game…

I tend to ignore them already, and that’s coming from a new player who only has about 12 in the bank and opened… two!

They’re a gold selling advertise in my eyes, but one coming from the game creators themselves