Guild Wars 2

ZudetGambeous.9573:

If they add dye channels to these then how can they sell different colored version of them in the gem store in the future?

To be honest I really wish they would add these to gem store. As I don’t only grind achieve points when i play. It will take a ridiculously long time to get 33k+ achieve points. I love the hellfire full armor look, but It isnt even a goal to get it simply because no matter how hard i try it is unobtainable. (considering how many limited events i missed cause i didn’t care to grind achievement points out of them and play every day). And that is coming from someone that has played the game since it first came out. I don’t even want to imagine how unobtainable it would be if i was a new player.

rotten.9753:

Gw1 had no downed state, no zerkers and you still had a meta where diversity was non-existant. Either you brought the build with proper skills, attribute spread, consumables and split how were told or you were kicked on spot.

-If that was in fact the case you must have played in the wrong guild and I hope that’s a joke, I had loads of fun coming up with all kinds of crazy varieties of different builds in gw1 (not to mention varieties of group combinations with heros). There was never a time i felt i was seriously lacking in dps because I was messing around with a new build combination.
-Where as in gw2 I have felt that many times running non-zerker gear. (I have yet to try nomads, but I’m scared to see how little damage i would do)

Also concerning downed states, why not keep them and just make it so rally doesnt happen? That way they don’t just magically get up from trash mobs, and it does actually hurt the group dps by getting downed. While at the same time still allowing others to rez if someone made a mistake.

RoseofGilead.8907:

I’m pretty sure a precursor acts like all other non-champ bag exclusive exotics: you won’t be able to get one until you can get exotic loot drops on your character.

You can get level 80 exotics from champ bags at any level. Got one running eotm at lvl 12 just the other day.

Kousetsu.1627:

you also can buy a full exo zerker set in wvw for like 6 or 7 gold + a bunch of wvw badges including the weapon.

WvW and Karma armor is a SURE way to loose any runes. You even loose the ability to salvage the rune/sigil back if you ever do change armor.

Whether he did or didn’t do it intentionally. I for one am hoping he gets corrupted and we get to kill him anyways. So its a win-win for me =P.

That’s what you get for doing absolutely nothing and stealing the credit in killing Zhaitan!

If I’m on, you’re more then welcome to send me a message if you’d like someone to party with. I’ve done just about everything and find its a lot more fun with people even if its just redoing stuff I’ve finished. =P

Kurow.3076:

…anyone else’s hype barely hanging on by a thread?…burned out?…?

Perhaps it’s just me.

After nearly 3 years of playing, there’s literally nothing to do. Same boring kitten every single day.

This expansion can’t come fast enough. In fact, forget about the expansion, the information for the expansion can’t come fast enough.

I got all excited and hyped for the expansion for about a week. Then I realized they wont even give a release date or give a general time-frame… Its going to be a LONG time before it comes out… Well hype is dead for me now =P. All that’s left is maybe log in for a quick farmville collect on tomes/laurels until that changes. Hopefully soon but my gut is telling me the expansion will get delayed multiple times.

tboneking.2531:

Yeah I hope my guild doesnt kick me because I dont think I can play until after April Fools now

If a guild kicks you for not logging in for 1 day. You should probably quit the guild anyways.

Yea logged in noticed it was like this on every character to the point of not being worth playing. Logged out, let me know when it gets changed back.

Smartcat.2130:

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EDIT: I would like to see them the charges drop in wvw too as I don’t do much pve or pvp content.

I agree to charges dropping in wvw (or maybe make rare drop from champ chests etc). Many players only play 1 aspect of the game and its annoying to need to do pvp to easily get them (or map completion in pve but that’s about as boring as it gets the 100th time..). But then again if they just would release an unlimited version it wouldn’t matter. (at least to me)

I would be up for it. But its not gonna happen.

Lets please try to keep this on topic (I do see relevance of the arguments given but it is still just an argument of opinion unless you have the data that only anet has), we don’t need another “was the chicken or the egg first?” discussion.

Also I would like to thank everyone for the many posts thus far! I’ve enjoyed reading the many varied views the community has.

Cliff side fractal if have ele and use swap attunements while holding hammer is will occasionally disappear

-fix have team suicide then revive at same time and it will re apear

Behellagh.1468:

As Cyn points out, the buying of gems through the exchange as the effect of raising the gem to gold rate which in turn makes buying gold with gems, cash bought gems since the difference in the exchange rate isn’t conducive to short term back and forth exchanges.

While I don’t disagree to the attraction of such an item, finding a price that is income neutral yet still within a reasonable price for those who normally wouldn’t buy gems is fundamentally incompatible. Set the price to low, ANet loses money in the long term. Set it too high, those frustrated with charges won’t be able to rationalize the cost (say $50/4000 gems) and remain frustrated.

I would easily pay that. Even if the price is too high at least it is attainable.

For me what it comes down to it, I don’t like worrying about things getting low (price per charge or how easy farming them is irrelevant). I like to never worry, similar to perma bl trader. I have one and still have 30+ of the 1 use ones because i didnt want them to get low, but now that i have perma one (no worries) I can use to its fullest. I just dont like the deep mental block keeping me from using trans charges. So in the end for me its irrelevant the price as long as it exists.

You forgot to add Gift of fortune !! I mean its no fun unless you get 250 of all the t6 mats too!!!

Endgame in pve:
-Silverwastes can be fun for a bit.
-Dungeons exp modes
-Fractals
-Map completions
Otherwise its all about saving up for skins or working towards ascended or legendary.

I am hoping that the expansion adds more endgame harder content to the pve, but I’m kind of doubting it with how most of their time seems to be more focused on wvw and pvp in my opinion.

Its funny that so many people say an unlimited stone is evil! Then immediately after say oh and I have a TON of extra FREE stones just sitting around that anet gave me…

I guess i just don’t understand why this discussion is relevant to these people in this case? If you don’t want one then great, if you don’t need one then great. But that would also put you in the category of not buying normal charges either…. so what are you complaining about?

I guess I just find it ironic. (not trying to dis anyone or anything, just found it funny)

Zygil.1276:

The wardrobe is great but the transmutation charges still fall through. Especially if you are using ascended equipment to share gear between characters. It gets worse when you waste extra charges because you want to share ascended gear between two different race characters.

I would be happy if using a charge on a skin would unlock it for re-use without cost. The real issue I have is having to pay a charge again to switch back to gear already used and unlocked. This still would require thousands of charges to unlock all skins over time. But for those of us who switch between a few skins or appearances, especially for ascended, would be much more enjoyable.

All this results in is making universal appearance gear for all my characters and never changing weapon skins around. So much for appearance enjoyment especially after working on ascended equipment for the account bound benefit.

I’d like them to remove all the essence of luck rewards from daily log in and replace with transmutation charges. Essence of luck will eventually cap and getting 3 charges for an entire month’s worth feels so little.

The idea of once its unlocked on an item it stays unlocked is great! If that was the case I would have no problems for the most part. Wish that was implemented. Or the unlimited charge whichever comes first. =P

You dont have to apply them, can wear at any level. Im very much on the separate skins boat, just thinking of a happy medium =P

Or if they give outfits the ability to allow us to hide ANY piece of the outfit, when hidden it shows the armor we are wearing underneath. Could allow mix n match with the couple pieces of outfit you actually like, when as a whole it is just bleh.

The dungeon one has been actively posting etc. It has been stated he has sent reports in to anet. The problem is that is all he can do. If anet doesn’t read the reports or do anything their existence is as useless at changing things as ours.

Perhaps but from what I’ve read most are new/unknowing players that are upset they lost it all. Plus this is just my opinion. As previously states I have no statistics and data only anet can state which is better or will make more money. I’m just voicing a side.

What revenue will they make putting in bl chests?? All it does is make people farm keys more or buy from other players that got lucky. If it was direct gem store many people would pay direct money. Especially if it was limited time and exchange rate was crazy for gold to gem. If bl chest drop, it allows people to buy with gold, yes it would be expensive but gold is not hard to come by in this game. And gold gives anet nothing. Most players are smart enough not to play the bl with real money unless they plan on loosing. Even if this was a rare chance in it. Where if it was expensive but guaranteed in gem store a lot of people would buy it, me included.

Electro.4173:

I really wish they’d let weapon skins alter the thrown projectiles of every weapon. As someone who has little interest in legendaries, it makes me a tad jealous that people with say, Frostfang, can go around on their Ranger throwing awesome ice axes while my Dreamthistle Axe and Dragon’s Jade axe just turn into generic hatchets when thrown. I know legendaries are special and supposed to be extra flashy and impressive, but something as simple as making your thrown weapon actually match your equipped weapon skin isn’t something that should be legendary-exclusive IMO, its something that should apply universally. It can’t really be THAT hard to copy-paste the weapon model and have the skill use the equipped weapon instead of a generic one. If legendaries can handle it, everything else should be able to as well.

+1 for my vote to all weapons having a throw animation.

You could always start one. I’ll vote on it =P

What I would like to see is the ability to put spear skins on staffs. As revenant is getting melee staff, why not throw a spear skin on it and wammo, all problems are gone! Plus its not like casting spells with a spear cant be done, had it plenty in gw1 =P.

Yea the push half of group into lava always a classic =P

Considering how very simple and easy dailies are.. Very sad..

Lets try to keep this topic more on the side of an unlimited transmute charges. Not a debate over whether transmutation charges are good or bad. Not that I don’t enjoy debate, just wanna keep on topic somewhat. Much appreciated. =)

Also thanks for all the excellent comments so far! Lets keep it going! Even if what you think has been stated, just quote and put a +1!! If you don’t then your opinion doesn’t get to matter! Cause we look forward to hearing yours.

I have a feeling the poll lets you revote, as there were more votes then views in forum =P.

Many.8419:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

In a game with such an emphasis on cosmetics, opening up the wardrobe is always a positive feature.

why

It lets you try more skins with less regret. Cant tell you how many times I haven’t got/tried a new skin that looked alright just because I didn’t want to regret it the next day and have to grind for an hour to change my look back. This is under the assumption of 10 minutes per transmute and I changed my entire armor look (which new looks tend to need).

TheGrimm.5624:

Rauderi.8706:

TheGrimm.5624:

Would I buy one, no. Would I like to see it as an ultra-rare drop in the Black Lion chests so that it could be sold to people who want one, absolutely.

Gods no. -_- None of this exploitative RNG chest garbage. It’s a terrible habit that cash shop games have.

Hey OP asked!

But this is kind of on the same level, if not bigger than the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract so it wouldn’t unprecedented to add it to the chest.

Granted, I am biased and do play that part of the game as well. Good hunting!

There is an underlying sense on these threads that we all feel. It is that if it comes it will be in the BL (we just don’t want to admit it). I and many others are just crossing our fingers that doesn’t happen ha ha. Basically you hit the nail on the head. Good Job =P

Many.8419:

You can assume nothing from forum posts. This is just a bit of community and usually it’s more concious part. The only informative data would be sale reports corelated with amount of trans charges bought with gold.

Gotta work with the tools we are given. I would LOVE to have access to that information, but the best I can do is make a poll to get a rough estimate. Doing that purely in the hopes that anet reads this and says to themselves… “Hm… maybe we should check our data and see if it would be a good idea as all these people would buy them! (noting that this is only a small fraction of community)”.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I love the idea, although I suspect it’s impractical for ANet to implement.

• The price for 25 charges is currently 600 gems.
• At minimum, a character needs 9 charges to transmute a full armor set (six armor, one back item, two weapons); some will need 12-15 charges/character. I’ll estimate 10/charges per character.
• A basic account has 5 characters, require 50 charges for one account-wide makeover, i.e. 1,200 gems.

Accordingly, I suspect that an unlimited transmutation charge would have to cost closer to 6,000 gems in order for it to make up for the change in spending habits. I doubt enough of us would be willing to spend anything close to that.

Probably true, but if the amount is too high people might not spend cash either (cause if feels like too much at once, or they dont have it etc). If it was set at 6000 I expect many would start saving gold/converting waiting for it to come around again. Where as if it was 2-3k gems its still reasonable to buy with cash (doesn’t feel like a huge amount, but still notable).
Plus if they put it on a 1-3 day sale (not saying I like these but they do work) people will panic, gem prices will skyrocket and a lot will fold/buy gems with real money because of lacking gems and the gold to gem conversion is crazy enough/not worth. If this does happen the black wing gem influx will be put to shame ha ha. Plus an added bonus because of the crazy steep temporary gem/gold exchange a lot of people will probably reversely buy gems to convert to gold. Could be a win win for anet if done right.

Rauderi.8706:

Kronos.2560:

The 2000 figure I gave was just a ballpark, thrown out there price. At current gold to gem prices making around 300g (similar to that of perma tp/merch) or 25 dollars from cash to gem. I would be personally fine with anything in the 1000-5000 range. But figured for making a poll I needed a number. =P

No worries. I was similarly pulling numbers out of the mists. :P

My personal line of thought is, if something in a game is going to be “unlimited” price it at cost x 100. Or maybe make it a limited time contract, as someone suggested earlier, and maybe package that with sold charges.

Buy the 600 gem package and get a one week transmutation pass for free?

1 or 2 week passes are probably a good idea to make money, but as long as a permanent version exists also (if it was only 2 week passes I would simply be depressed ha ha). Do something like the Aircaptain pass thing where they have both. I personally have never been a fan of timed items (nor do I personally support them) but they do make money, and I don’t mind anet making some on the side.

Toxsa.2701:

Red Queen.7915:

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

Sorry, I meant the Ele thunder hammer skin.
But from what I see, it says you have to do some unlocking of other skins for precursor no? I hope it doesn’t mean ALL skins other than precursors/ legendaries/ and bl weapons.

The ele hammer is Mjolnir*
I REALLY hope this isn’t the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you have to collect 2,000g worth of skins for a new precursor. Ha ha would make me laugh.

Rauderi.8706:

At 600 gems for 25 charges, we’d probably see an unlimited stone for.. 2500 gems?
Not sure if $30-something is worth it, but I don’t change my look much. I probably would if it were available, though.

The 2000 figure I gave was just a ballpark, thrown out there price. At current gold to gem prices making around 300g (similar to that of perma tp/merch) or 25 dollars from cash to gem. I would be personally fine with anything in the 1000-5000 range. But figured for making a poll I needed a number. =P

True the poll only has around 160 at this point, but out of those 160 they range all over the world! I think that’s very exciting. Would love it if it could get into the 10,000s or millions but only anet has the ability to do that.

Is it just me or is it kind of surprising that around 40% of the market is buying transmute charges with gems? I thought it would be lower, but interesting to know. Wish I could see anet’s sales reports on them, would keep me very entertained.

On a side not, I never realized the pole had an around the world location finder aspect. Its VERY cool to see how diverse the forums are, from america to europe, japan, australia, south africa! Almost a bit exciting to see what new area of the map will fill in next. =P

Granted it was talking about the moot. BUT it stated at step 3 once legendary is made it can be traded… I hope its referring only to the previous ones not new. Cause otherwise this scavenger hunt is kinda… Pointless??

Ah my bad missed last line they aren’t tradable… Phew. Writing on phone.

rapthorne.7345:

I’d definitely get one as I enjoy changing up my looks, but I doubt ANet would make it given I know some people that go through 50+ transmutes a week, so it’s likely a top seller in the gem store

True, some use a lot but you never know it might balance out with those that rarely use and have 200 free ones sitting around. We can’t say anything for sure without being able to run the numbers. I’m just hoping it at least gets released as a rare bl drop similar to hair changer. But if that’s the case as previously stated anet gets nothing as I would simply use in game gold.

Olvendred.3027:

By comparison, I remember when I bought my first unlimited gathering tool (the molten pick, when it was first out), people calculated that you’d need to use it something like 50,000 times before you started to turn a profit on the unlimited part. I suspect it’s way, way more now… given that gems cost more gold, the item itself costs more (as it was made account bound), and the comparison should rightly be made to the cheapest tools available (being the frostbitten ones, atm).

80 transmutation charges is nothing compared to that. You’d only need to change an entire outfit (7 items, including backpiece) 11 and a half times before you’re starting to make a profit. No way would this be sold for as little as 2k gems.

Comparing to harvesting isn’t really relevant as you can harvest anywhere anytime for free. The only semi comparison that can be made would be to perma merch/bl cost to gem prices. Off top of head i think it is 50 for a 1 time merch/bl and around 250-300 gold for perma version. If you want to do gold/gem conversion by all means. But comparing mining to transmuting doesn’t really make any sense.

Also the reason I settled for 2k rough price is yes it ends up a good deal for those that use lots of skins, but it also gives anet an extra 40% market that will buy them (if pole is accurate). I don’t have access to transmute sales figures only anet does but they “should” be able to do the math to settle on a price. This was just a ballpark cutting the price a bit, yet gaining a larger amount of buyers.

I guess I should also state, if this happened to come out as a gemstore item I would buy without a second thought happily giving my shiny gems to anet (bought with money). If this happens to be a black lion chest item I will still buy, but it ill be exclusively from farming bl keys and saving up gold to purchase in game (basically meaning that it takes much longer for me and anet gets nothing). I already got perma bank,merch,and bl this way, but would have got with gems if option was available. Plus I don’t think I’m the only one that thinks this way. Just thought I would throw this out there!

Just a flesh wound.3589:

I know if I had an unlimited T stone I would make daily, frivolous changes to my char’s appearance, just because I could. Now, because I have to pay or work for each T charge, I think about any changes with the consideration that any change I make will be long term, relatively speaking, anywhere from weeks to months before the next change.

There is a difference between how I would use unlimited charges, free after one purchase, than I use charges that cost me in gold or work for each one.

I would do the same. To me the endgame of gw2 is all about your characters look. So having this would let me explore all sorts of crazy mix n match combos! Plus the character preview window just doesn’t do dyes or clothing justice. ..

That is how it works for selling. Relisting is a killer

Just a flesh wound.3589:

I know I would be interested. I’ve held back on making changes to my char’s appearance because my hoard of T charges was running low. Maybe 1000 gems? Considering I don’t buy gems from the gem store, that would be 1000 more gems than they would have gotten from me for that.

I would be perfectly fine with 1000 gems as price! But I was figuring if bought them normally for 2000 you could get roughly 80+ trans charges. That is a very large sum (not to mention by the time you used them all you would have more from just doing content). So I personally think 2000 is a fair price, but I would be the last one to complain if it was decided to be lower. =P

Made a poll concerning the unlimited trans stones also. If it is of any interest. Was curious how the turnout would be.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll275672xCB1C4F07-10

So I am just curious really what everyone thinks concerning this.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll275672xCB1C4F07-10

Thanks!

edit:
Also please post your thoughts, do you think 2000 gems is too much? too little? Do you simply not need more trans charges as they are easily obtained? Do you think this would be a good thing to give more wardrobe variety? or no? Why?
I look forward to reading your posts!

Rev wall stays a fixed distance away from him. If you get inside that distance it is no longer an issue/also if rev is not looking at you the wall will not help him. Not really that op.

I might have thrown the idea around a few different posts before =P. Figure makes it more likely a dev will see. =). Quite sure i’m not the only one for it though.