Guild Wars 2

….or not playing ****** lb power ranger like every other *…… im fully sure they are the reason half the community/me personally rage :P That will solve half the problem.

No one likes to be spammed from range especially when they are having a good duel on point.

Rusc.4978:

People are misinterpreting or disregarding the concept that people want gradual progression rewards. A title like Champion Brawler is fine as a long-term goal, but there’s a serious lack of short-term PvP goals between achieving rank 80—which many people have done since the glory patch—and that title. Why?

If players are expected to play the game for the enjoyment of the mechanics alone, then I wonder why there are any medals, chests, or rewards in the game as a whole.

I think PvP-exclusive dyes, minis, gizmos, consumables, or armor/weapon skins would be a nice way to reward players for dedicating their time and energy to that particular game mode.

couldnt have put it better

Lordrosicky.5813:

These are my problems with mesmer and the lack of counter play to it:

1, They can spike out of stealth all the time = no counter play
2, They apply a ton of conditions, do massive damage and strip boons
3, They do too much spam damage from long ranged with the greatsword
4, Blurred frenzy cd is too short meaning they have too much invulnerability
5, They can port around like clowns and get you down when you cant hit the fools
6, They get so many procs like fire and air sigil
7, Portal is a game chaning utility
8, Moa morph is not fun in any way whatsoever
9, Cancel cast on greatsword is a cheat and an exploit and those exploting it should be banned
10, The damage it too high and too repeatable. They shouldn’t be able to spike for so much so often. I would increase the cd of shatter by 50%

Then we have some balance. Mesmer is game warping and OP as anything else. Just because thieves kill them, like they kill everything, does not make such high damage with ZERO COUNTERPLAY ok.

Please make the change and improve the game.

1) our stealths are like 3 or 5 seconds, you telling me you cannot count to 3 and counter play by counter stealth/blocks/positioning? its not like we have thief lik access to 10+ sec stealths

2)TONS of conditions? Shatter mesmr(the most common) applies vun and confusion, thats 2, maybe 3

3)Its not GS dmg, its fire/air procs, which are not just a mesmer issue

4)………. you know what i cant even be bothered. This stinks of L2P. Mesmers are only strong under skilled players. And if you play at any decent level you would know they are NOT favourable due to the huge amount of coordination, team support needed and skill to counter play all the med guards/thieves around.

Flumek.9043:

Knighthonor.4061:

Shieldbash.5304:

No its faster and more effective.

just asking. because somebody said something negative about it in the game. was curious if the general community share that person’s opinion.

You must have mistaken it for “keyboard turning” which is basically an insult in PVP terms.

You say that, but its hilarious how many supposed ‘good pvpers’ keyboard turn in this game. Not even that, MOST necros/rangers especially in 1v1 servers keyboard turn/walk backwards/ strafe.

Coming from a WoW background where this kind of stuff is seriously frowned upon in pvp, i questioned why most self proclaimed good players do this, and the response was, the game is designed for this type of play. Especially rangers. 90% of them walk backwards on their way to winning.

End of the day, dont be a keyboard turner. Learn to use your mouse for turning (its a million times quicker and easier to have map awareness) and save your keyboard buttons for actually useful key-binds. This carries across ANY game in my opinion.

It really annoys me when you get idiots saying ‘omg why do you care, rank means nothing’ crap.
So why even post that? It’s hypocritical. If you don’t think people should be caring, don’t post said opinion. It’s pointless and a pretty brain-dead thing to do.

But for the others, who created this post and agree…..i feel for you.

No matter what people say, most of us play an MMO because its social, competitive (lol), and for the self fulfilment and bragging rights. No matter what game it is (CS, LoL, FiFa, DOTA, WoW, SC), people play online pvp to compete and have bragging rights over their fellow gamers. If you didnt care, you’d probably be playing a solo RPG like Witcher etc. Thats why nearly every MMO has titles, ranks, achievements, gear to aspire towards. To play an MMO and get good, a certain time investment is needed. Now most don’t mind investing that time because you get rewarded for it through said titles/ranks etc to show a) you are a veteran of the game and/or b) you have skill in a certain class/area/mode of the game.

If people were not competitive or concerned about their online egos, there would be no ESL or esports.

Which brings me on to the question(s);
Why has ANET made ranks USELESS?
After the April patch where now every man and his dog can get rank 80, there is nothing to show that you have been a real pvp grinder/competitor.
Ranks, while were not everything in pvp, they were the carrot on the stick for true pvpers (new ranks,finishers, GEAR SKINS, every 10 ranks) and people like me really enjoyed the grind, because i got better at the game/my class at the same time.
You took away the differentiation ANET.
This is before i get onto champion titles too. They are also useless. SO many bad class champions out there. 1-2 years ago, a champion was seen as an expert on their class, now its meaningless. I have champ paragon with 151 ranked games won, and champion illusionist with over 1200 ranked games won…..yet i’m rewarded with the same quality title?

Essay over but the OP brought up a good point. ANET, WHAT IS THE POINT IN RANKS, if you are not someone who bought the game yesterday….

Zeffiro.6940:

Recommended! gl guys

Thanks for playing TOL with us, we learnt alot!

Think we have our warr, but people are still welcome to w/, but we really need a good competent engi to fill the rooster. Not long to go.
Requirements still stand.

- Cake

This is cute

So UNRANKED queue will be exclusively stronghold later? Thats a step in the right direction….

For a second i thought they were gonna add it to the rotation so we have PUG v PREMADE AND THREE game modes in ONE queue..(which is totally kittened)

At least people will know what they are queuing for and tryhard it (builds/comps based on stronghold alone)….

Yes but does it treat it like a normal disconnect as in if you log back within a time period its fine, eg. switching classes before the timer runs out pre-game??

Or will you get you a disconnect regardless if you ever log back in and play the matchup therefore acting as a loss, yet you came back and won.

I feel the question is still not answered.

The point of this thread is? /facepalm

EDIT: OK just seen the other threads you posted…..you SERIOUSLY need to get out the house more bro. One day these players will no longer exist, this game will have deceased/ moved on……and you will still be trying to make pointless lists…..

Cool video man! That burst.

Add me for double ranged shatter (s/gs). Often get people asking for help/spectating in hotjoin. Always happy to give pointers in the right direction. Over 1k tpvp wins on Mesmer. -

Yeh someone else confirmed this too…thanks……amazing change…hate failing a blink in a clutch situation because the port spot is a tricky one and find im facing a wall instead and my blink going on cd.

This should have ALWAYS been the intended scenario but then again..im just happy they have sorted it.

AMAZING! <3 Anet (probably only time i have/will ever say that)

Awesome…hope this is the same for mesmers (yes i know you have to trait blink to have same port places as thieves on some maps )….

Seems like they just made porting more reliable rather than nerfing the port positions.

Also…if you cant port/fail to port to a place, does it still use the skill and place it on cd? Thats what i read in patch notes (this is a HUGE buff) You probably dont play mesmer…but im still downloading patch

Sodapoppin is kind of a kitten, but this was entertaining.

All his WoW terminology brings back memories. Good old WoW.

If only we had WoW arenas/ pvp player base but with Gw2 classes/ mechanics

From a pvp perspctive…….IMO you should ALWAYS take portal.

In tpvp premade pvp its vital and one of the only reasons you would bring a mesmer. Good co-ordinated portal play will help massively with out rotating enemy teams…(pushing far with thief and portal playing it) effectively meaning you can play 3 bases really fast.

In unranked/ hotjoin….i would still take it….learn it…you will be unkillable with it. It might not help your team as you are playing with randoms..but use it selfishly…resetting a 1v1….pulling out of an unfair fight (2v1/3v1 etc) and free roam capping/decapping by yourself. I use it and when it is on CD…i pretty much cannot die.

There really is not much option tbh. If you want to be a valued mesmer…learn how to portal play

PS. its almost ALWAYS better to pull out of a fight via portal and reset/ loose the base…than die and wait for respawn…..a dead mesmer is no help to anyone

I’v always wondered why they did this….i assume its to do with their server loading infrastructure but its hellannoying.

If you dc, why do you have to load into HOTM, to THEN get back into the pvp server?

Harvest.2506:

first my Credentials from last week
http://harvestlee.blogspot.ca/2015/02/1st-place-north-america-and-europe.html

Now my complaint in at least 30% of my match I’ve had people playing classes in pvp for the first time. they either don’t understand their builds enough thus dying alot, or they don’t know the map. I spent more time copy and pasting instructions and timers for “temple of the silent storm” and asking one of 2 thieves in party to change characters than organizing my own skills before the game.

In games that I’ve won 75% of the time it was with another bunker class. I spend more time managing Random teams then most, with the constant “don’t tell me how to play” in return. which is fine i anticipated that but in the case where we have 4 roamers 2 of which on average are without tittles they don’t coordinate attacks or plays sides , and end up feeding deaths to the other team in single file.

Now I’d like to request that there be some sort of restriction to bar at the very least entry ranked players from ranked, They can still play unranked for their dailes or reward track. High Ranking plays should not have to constantly carry teams or new players as frequently we currently do. its not fair and not fun.

The other Option is to go back to the solo que/ team que as before and have separate ladder that way. It was the best method and everyone was happy. because if I have to carry someone, than my opponent better be able to as well.

So wait, you are moaning that you dont want to carry ‘noobs’ yet you are rank 1….seems legit….
You are moaning you dont want to be organising other players while SOLO queuing….well get a premade then…..seems legit

The OP clearly just made this post to show of his ‘credentials’ (sorry that made me laugh).

Everyone knows the Lb is broken and doesnt represent skill/matchups won…yet you felt the need to post your RANK and therefore think you are this new new rank 1 god that has no right to be playing with ‘average players’ or carrying/i call it teaching other when SOLO QUEUING. You have proved nothing, this is a pointless thread telling us nothing knew other than you are some randomer who has reached RANK1.

:)

So you are trolling that another glass cannon zerker is becoming viable? Please. Had enough of thieves putting every other glass cannon out of the meta for 2 years, its refreshing to see another zerker/guard build becoming popular.
There are many more important things wrong with balance/ lack of build diversity that you should be worrying about. Bad troll. Bad.

I agree.

This ‘off season’ has left competitive pvp in a state of staleness. Even when it was the first test season the ladder was a joke.

NO carrot on a stick for r80s. The only thing worth playing for is Leader board ranking but even that is a joke now which rewards quantity not quality.

NO gear for hitting a rating, NO skins for hitting a rating, NO titles for hitting a rating, oh kitten i forgot , a mini llama (no comment)

I often ask myself why do i play this game? I love the game mechanics, and dare i say it, ‘balance’ but its in the most boring stale state of pvp right now.

I’ve posted this many times before. It’s SO SAD these Devs have put such a beautiful, mechanically stunning game in a state of limbo, slowly killing off its pvp population.

You think people REALLY care about the same 3-4 teams winning/appearing in these ‘esports’ finals??? That is not healthy competition.

The sad thing is a moan on the forums will do sweet FA to change it.

PS..looking back on it, i actually miss the days of grinding to the next rank (20/30/40 etc) just to get the new skins/finishers,…CANNOT BELIEVE I JUST SAID THAT. Says a lot really.

Yes but that hasnt happened has it. I lost with a 300 point gap, and won with a +300 point gap…now the fact they were premades is bad in itself but the fact the gap was 300 points shows the Matchmaking was even more kittened as if it was working as intended, those kinda of point differences should not happen really, regardless of pug v premade.

You have missed my point entirely.

Yes. Regardless of win, solo queuers should NOT face premades and i faced 2 in a row.
The first was 55HP, understandably we lost hard, 2nd was a different premade but my point still stands….

Would like a DEV to just find out why i faced 2x premades in a row(full 5/5) when solo queuing at PRIME TIME…

lol thats not really how it works though is it. If i was in a premade facing them, i could learn from them, im a good players, would give them a game(better than the one i just did anyway), but you learn nothing when pugging v these kind of players who just stomp my team because they have the co-ordination and synergy of playing together.
It’s just out right frustrating and im sure even they dont really want to be tested by yoloers…
I’;ve faced the top teams multiple times before in premades, but i dont expect that to happen while soloqueing.

Just queued again, and yet again (thanks to their confirmation) it was a full 5/5 premade v me with pugs….we won this time (because our setup countered theirs) but once again..why are these FULL 5/5 premades happening v pugs….

I’m not blaming anyone for queuing, its obviously not their fault, i jsut want to know why their system is failing and why this is happening.

About 19:20 GMT i queued up for some rated because i was bored…anyway we faced 55HP guild full of tryhards v our soloers.

Can a dev explain to me HOW or WHY this happened. BEcause i cant see how a player base issue ( as one of their members seemed to say it was) is the reason. Regardless of player base, you telling me there are not enough players playing at 20:30 server time to NOT put me against tryhards when im soloing?

It’s a joke and not fun for either teams.

rofl wtf. 10/10 creative writing

Totally agree. Coming from WoW and being fairly successful in Arena, i’ve been calling for a deathmatch/arena mode for 2 years. A TEAM/GVG based rooster would be best, not this stupid kittening 5v5 yet you only ever show solo rating on LB bullkitten.

Not only that, having a 2v2/3v3 system would totally reenergise the stale pvp format of conquest. 2v2/3v3= easier to get a team up and running= more players playing.

It would be more fun, easier on the eye and easier for shout casters to do their kitten, promoting more esports stream events imo.

The problems are, is that there is no ‘trinity’ setup in this game of tank/dps/healer…so im pretty sure this is the reason arena has never been implemented. It would take out half the pvp builds considered viable as they are not needed/as successful when it comes to deathmatch( i however think the community would still make a good job of representation of builds).

Finally, it’s impossible to add more game modes like this or even think about boosting pvp when we have a broken ladderboard.

Before anything else, ANET, please for the love of God, fix the ladderboard.

Terrahero.9358:

How can anyone take these devs serious?

•Deception: This downed-state skill no longer requires a target in order to cast. ? Dev note: This will allow for mesmers to better use their survival skill when facing an opponent using stealth.

They are buffing one of the best downed states in the game already, while leaving the professions with much weaker downed states in the cold. And the reason!? “Mesmers had trouble dealing with stealth stomping while downed”. Yeah, just like the Warrior, Engineer, Necro and Ranger, who all have an objectively worst Avoidance as it is.

Downed state has been unbalanced since forever, but hey lets buff one of the best right? And these are the people responsible for balance changes. Embarrassing.
No wonder the balance patch’s in this game suck and they can’t handle separating balance changes for different game modes. Unless of course it might harm and inconvenience pvp, then suddenly we can isolate changes to specific gamemodes.

100% agree and i main mesmer.

If you cant win a 1v1 anyway as mesmer and they stealth stomp (thief is a bit more tryhard) then its your fault and you deserve to die anyway.

Most of the time when im in down state and the enemy stealths, there is usually SOMEONE or SOMETHING (AI eg, a treb, enemy on another node, a pet, a turret, ANYTHING red) in sight to just target and then use downstate 2.

It’s like they buffed something without buffing it, or needing any changes and im not sure why.

In terms of v thief, you have to out play them.

Know they will steal pretty much as soon as they appear from stealth so when they gank me from stealth ( i play gs/staff shatter) distortion/decoy ASAP. usually they will waste a steal.

If they restealth, wait a few seconds then stealth yourself and place portal (usually they will run out of stealth time and you should still be in stealth, meanig you can get some dmg off)

If they are in stealth and you know they are near you, place Chaos Storm down on you. The Aegis(block) it gives you(hopfully) is OP when it comes to preventing backstabs as well as potentially giving them conditions in stealth.

Finally…positioning positioning positioning.

Learn thieves cd’s, and when they are likely to use them and adjust accordingly. Learn all the blink/teleport/phase retreat spots on the maps for mesmer (will buy you precious nuke/heal up time v thieves or any class) and dont be afraid to use portal cd to kite between a small space.

BAIT OUT DODGES.
Either- Stealth and then walk on to of them to diversion daze chain them (they freak out when they see they have 50-60% hp in like 1 second, they will dodge spam and waste their dodges

Or- spam phantasms from range and wait for the dodge spamming to then shatter.

It’s all about element of surprise. LINE UP SHATTERS when in stealth. Dont spam shatters when you and your clones are 1000 yards away as thats way to predictable. (clones have to walk like zombies to your target before shattering (easy to see and hence block/dodge.

I land shatters very effectively by decoy/mass invis>phantasm summoning skills>dodge towards target>shatter (this can all be done before you re appear) and the enemy have no reaction time to dodge ( they jsut waste their dodges after because they panic)….by then you can just line up another shatter knowing they have no dodges.

Hope this helps

1) MINOR SHAVING only works with frequent updates, not 6 months apart.

2) You nerf might as a boon which EVERY class utilises, not just celestial rather than nerf the celestial classes that ABUSE it (eg. should have nerfed d/d eles access to might stacking/ regen survivability rather than nerf actual might which mesmers, warrs, thieves, dps guards need to be considered viable)

3)No news on any new maps/modes!? I’ve just accepted this game is going to be a 1 mode bore-fest for ever or until a better, more exciting MMO pvp game comes out. This is extremely disappointing as i love this games mechanics and classes.

4) Nerfing the ticks/duration of skills like drakes breath does kitten all. You said it yourself, it wont harm the intensity, you will just have to TRY a tiny weeny bit hard to keep burn up. Doesnt seem logical.

5) the only positive changes in my opinion are the fear proc duration on nightmare runes, and the cd duration on time warp.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET A BALANCE TEAM/ TESTING SERVER FOR THE TOP PLAYERS RATHER THAN BLINDLY DOING MINOR CHANGES ONLY TO FIX 6 MONTHS LATER

:D

imaclown.1628:

Liam McColgan.7689:

While i also appreciate the fact he does respond to posts, i feel half the time its just to shut people up/ promote false hope that the devs do care/actually doing things to sort out the mess that is pvp.

However i cant help but not take anything he says seriously because it will take another 6 months, IF AT ALL for any of our feedback to taken seriously.
It’s constant “will look into it, we are aware of it, this has potential what are other peoples views” blah blah blah.

Like, ive seen this for 2 years and pvp is still in a state of 1 mode/failed ladder, season,mmr.

It gets to a point where no one really cares if he responds or not because kitten all will be done to improve this game in pvp for another year. Just my opinion.

Some of the time it is to shut people up. How would you like it if you worked your kitten off on a new matchmaking system only to have people crying they aren’t winning any games on the forums. He does what I think anyone would do, he goes and checks to see if the matchmaking is actually that bad, it usually isn’t so he comes on here and calls the people out on their bullkitten. It’s like one of my favourite thing about the forums lately.

Yeh 100% agree. The fact he takes time to address individual issues, and often calls out bullkitten is great, i’m a huge admirer of that.

My issue is with the continual posts about very blatant, big issues need addressing, and have needed addressing for 1-2 years now, and all i ever see is a dev response of ‘we are aware/looking into’ yet we have had NO progression in terms of more modes/maps, rewards for r80’s/ people on the ladder boards.
It’s a joke. I love the pvp in this game. It’s unique and by far the best class mechanics of any MMO pvp right now.

But that doesnt change the fact MANY people are only still playing this game because we are simply waiting for a better one to be released. Everything from down state, the graphics(stunning), mechanics, and yes, balance is in my opinion awesome. But that’s what makes me sad to see such an awesome pvp game being ruined by complete lack of understanding of what people want and expect when it comes to progression in this game.

The time it takes for anything to advance in this game is so demoralising, i feel this game has gone backwards (let alone forwards) in terms of pvp.

Saiyan.1704:

Liam McColgan.7689:

While i also appreciate the fact he does respond to posts, i feel half the time its just to shut people up/ promote false hope that the devs do care/actually doing things to sort out the mess that is pvp.

However i cant help but not take anything he says seriously because it will take another 6 months, IF AT ALL for any of our feedback to taken seriously.
It’s constant “will look into it, we are aware of it, this has potential what are other peoples views” blah blah blah.

Like, ive seen this for 2 years and pvp is still in a state of 1 mode/failed ladder, season,mmr.

It gets to a point where no one really cares if he responds or not because kitten all will be done to improve this game in pvp for another year. Just my opinion.

Take that back!

He didn’t mean it guys… he didn’t mean it.

Look don’t get me wrong. A dev’s interaction on the forums is appreciated, and most of the time it is to respond to specific issues individuals have. But after nearly 3 years of the SAME old in pvp, and yet NO progression towards fixing the bore fest of 1 mode, same maps, 6 month balance patches, broken ladder, no carrot on a stick for r80’s……
I , and many others simply dont give kitten or take any dev seriously.

It’s not like the issues that get brought up are NEW?!! It’s the same things over and over, month after month, and we are no nearer to any getting proper attention.

While i also appreciate the fact he does respond to posts, i feel half the time its just to shut people up/ promote false hope that the devs do care/actually doing things to sort out the mess that is pvp.

However i cant help but not take anything he says seriously because it will take another 6 months, IF AT ALL for any of our feedback to taken seriously.
It’s constant “will look into it, we are aware of it, this has potential what are other peoples views” blah blah blah.

Like, ive seen this for 2 years and pvp is still in a state of 1 mode/failed ladder, season,mmr.

It gets to a point where no one really cares if he responds or not because kitten all will be done to improve this game in pvp for another year. Just my opinion.

Soooo, the ranked ladderboard is not updating ( im assuming this is because of end of test season etc),

Soooo there is literally NO reason to do ranked as we speak?

You have left competitive pvp in a state of limbo with literally NO REASON to play….how can you do this?

I wasn’t happy with anything about the new MMR/ queue/ LB system but i played ranked anyway just to see how good i could get my win/loss because bored/yolo, but there is not even a reason to do that now as Lb doesnt update….

ANET are biggest trolls ever :’(

Lordrosicky.5813:

Hi guys,

It has been over 15 minutes since I made a post on this so here goes.

Mesmer ruins gw2. Not only are they brokenly op and clutter up your screen.

But in addition all mesmers do is cry 24/7 about thieves.

Well it is the same for everyone. Thieves are strong, get over it.

I would trade in all my necro kitten for the evades and immunities and ports and stealths a mesmer gets.

Thoughts guys?

Well you’ve walked right into this one havnt you. SHAME ON YOU.

Most mesmers you fight are shatter (you know what shatter means yeh? their clones are up for literally 1 second…… good)
Most mesmers have to dodge/kite/portal about so you dont need xray vision to see the real one.
If mesmers are ruining pvp for YOU, it’s a simple L2P issue you need to find the solution deep within your heart to over come it.

Posting this kind of dribble on the forums is counter productive for you. It’s doesn’t give you super powers to beat mesmers.

Stop wasting time posting crap and go practice practice practice. You are welcome Bro :P

Just seen this. Friendly bump for a very good warr! Good luck getting a pewpew team

This idiot posted QQ in the pvp forums, and has now come to the mesmer section to troll more. Ignore him. He claims shatter mesmer is easy/op yet clearly hasnt got the rank/win ration/games won on mesmer in the ladderboards to prove it.

Amir you are boring, and you got slated in the pvp forums so you come here for what reason? complete muppet.

Hi, seeing a dev is active on this post.

PLEASE sort out, when you queue, then leave for IRL reasons before the queue pop, only to find 2 mins later when you are in wvw or on the toilet, the queue pops.
Really annoying and happens EVERYTIME without fail. I’m not the only one getting really annoyed with this.

Amir.1570:

People are surprisingly stupid if they think Mesmer is a hard mode class. They are either really scared to be proven wrong or just too simple minded and can’t comprehend simple analogies.

Once again, go play DPS Warrior or Fresh Air ele. You’ll come crawling back to your braindead class which spam blinds, invuln, and evades while I bait out your evades with phantasms and then Mirror Image shatter you when you run out of dodges.

Mesmer is THE most braindead glass cannon in the game, potentially more braindead than Ranger glass cannon which is another braindead spec because Ranger is easy mode too. I’ve already stated why, I don’t know why people refuse to understand why Mesmer isn’t hard at it’s current state. Like if you’re bad at Mesmer you are bad no matter what you do.

Seriously even Hambow or shoutbow isn’t that cancerous once you understand that hambow gets destroyed once Berserk Stance is down or shoutbow gets destroyed by chain CC once shake it off is down.

P.S Better pray that they don’t gut celestial Ele or Engi. Tone it down properly, but without care then the glass cannon meta will come back and prove how braindead Mesmer is.

P.S#2 I’ve played Mesmer, it isn’t that hard. Try again please. That’s how Mesmer works on the above post.

Best troll of 2015
Go play shatter mesmer for 50 rated games and come back to this post with the results. Put your money where your mouth is bro.
I’m betting you wont even get >50% win ratio

Lupanic.6502:

I can’t find a post to nerf warrior in your history. Warrior were gods of all classes for a long time. But now that the ele and engi are even with warrior you are QQing a lot? Really?

We have a warrior/ele/engi meta at the moment and you asked the devs to nerf ele and engi without touching your class? Yes sure…

Please nerf paper

BR rock

Said exactly what i was thinking. Back when he could probably 2v1 anyone, then rage as to why others couldnt, and now he asks for nerfs because warriors are not god more anymore? Comic gold. What goes around comes around. Time for others to shine.

Narkodx.1472:

2 years later and people still don’t know how to deal with clones

2 years later and people still keyboard turn/tab target

2 years later and people still need to L2P

This, mesmers have not all of a sudden become ‘OP’, the people QQing cant hack that a mesmer with skill will out perform a tryhard cele engi or warrior. 100% l2p issue

However i do agree warr is easy more for mesmer but do you honestly think you have a leg to stand on considering how OP warr was for like a year, practically killing a mesmer in 2 stuns?

Yeh mes/thief is op which is why EVERY team runs those 2 classes without exception, and we rarely see even ONE set of ele and engi.

I just get the impression his got roflstomped by good mes/thief coordination and needs to QQ somewhere. You loose all credibility.

yeh its deactivated thank god or i would have had much more of an issue than a simple forum query post.
OK thanks for info, hope they sort it out soon as its very annoying.

Just left queue as i realised i wouldn’t have time.

Anyway, the queue pop up still happened….is this a known bug?

Would suck hard if dishonour was in place xD

Really kittening annoying

Elitist.8701:

This isn’t about how Thief Mesmer is easy or whatever, it’s about how it would be healthy for the game to have fights go faster and have higher risk higher reward comps instead of having incredibly long fights on all points. In a power meta, it would be possible to make quick plays and wipe people fast to make comebacks, whereas in this cele meta you see teams like The Abjured hold 3-caps forever because they have a bunker on every point while thief and necro +1. Not only that but EVERY class would be viable. As zerkers we would see a lot of mesmers and rangers coming back. We would see the return of bunker guard as a viable on point class. We would still see celestial 3-point comps, but if they get nerfed well enough, they will be equal to the power comps, but with less potential to make clutch plays due to less mobility/no portal, and slightly better at 2v2 and 3v3s than the Thief Mes comp, which is how it should be.

-Teef Teef Teef Teef

Well said sir. Totally agree. Now stop calling yourself ‘teef’. That word is getting kitten annoying in pvp.

Not gonna lie, you are probably on my block list. I make a point of it for every kittening turret engi in pvp. Death to you all