Guild Wars 2

Apolo.5942:

REVOLVET.4807:

Second, since all player stats are boosted, all bosses and enemies stats should be boosted as well. Otherwise, player stats should be reverted.

Wrong
Guardian Pre patch Full zerker + 6 points in Zeal =2313 power
Guardian Post patch Full zerker =2300 power

Yes thats one stat and the others?

Since before you could get 300 300 100 from trait lines now they are all base line.

You cant just pull 1 stat when 4 was buffed for you. (two witch buffs the other 2 you use to deal damage )

Were is condi damage base 500 stat to make it in line with power/precision stats?

XxSmokedatganjaxX.2948:

It is simple math, everything at the moment is dying at least 5 times faster than before. Raw damage and condition damage are not equal, the late being way too powerful right now… and they did not buff raw damage, just conditions. So they either have to put back the 25 stacks cap or tone down the damage.

Build diversity? Cleric, Soldier, Nomad gear are still forgotten in the void lol

Yea you do now that the base stats that was added only affected power users right since condi users dont start with 1k base condi damage ( compared to direct damage that get base 1k power and precision)

dietzero.3514:

Linken.6345:

dietzero.3514:

Linken.6345:

dietzero.3514:

The problem is that Teq and other world bosses are balanced around power damage and critical hit immunity. So when a condition build comes along that can do far more damage than pure power, they will die very fast.

I think they need to remove crit immunity and rebalance all world bosses.

Considering conditions cant crit and they now after a ramp up time are close to what a direct damage person do right away… can you please explain why remove crit immunity?

its not like there is 1 person applying those 80-100 bleeds.

Because otherwise condition builds will dominate fights like this.

If they rebalanced everything without crit immunity, both pure power and condition builds would be viable. Remember, a lot of condition specs also rely on crits for procs.

afew condition builds do yea but all power builds get a buff from the removal of crit immune, it seems to me that you just want power builds to out preform condi builds again bud

Seem to me that you have trouble reading. Condition builds will absolutely no contest dominate these fights. Bringing a power build and not being on add duty means you are severely hurting the group. Does THAT make sense to you?

Everything needs to be equal, champ. Stop wanting conditions to dominate just because power used to dominate.

Also:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Things-we-know

oh realy what rock have you been hiding under during the 3 year power user or go home era?

less then a day and you spring up from under that rock and attack condi damage when it get close to competetive pve.

What bosses need are condi cleanses or water fields to cleanse conditions from time to time…. and on the other side of the spectrum immune to direct damage aswell at intervalls

dietzero.3514:

Linken.6345:

dietzero.3514:

The problem is that Teq and other world bosses are balanced around power damage and critical hit immunity. So when a condition build comes along that can do far more damage than pure power, they will die very fast.

I think they need to remove crit immunity and rebalance all world bosses.

Considering conditions cant crit and they now after a ramp up time are close to what a direct damage person do right away… can you please explain why remove crit immunity?

its not like there is 1 person applying those 80-100 bleeds.

Because otherwise condition builds will dominate fights like this.

If they rebalanced everything without crit immunity, both pure power and condition builds would be viable. Remember, a lot of condition specs also rely on crits for procs.

afew condition builds do yea but all power builds get a buff from the removal of crit immune, it seems to me that you just want power builds to out preform condi builds again bud

Not like engi dont have other conditions then burning compared to guardian that is

god walking amongst mere mortals a title from gw1

or a shout build with runes of the trooper

Probabley people are to used to not guarding against conditions just take some cleanses use the light fields and runes to your advantage

Aerlen.5326:

Lucky you because everyone I spoke to under or at 30 has Earth =/ I wish I’d spawned with even Arcane or Fire.

My level 80 spawned with Air, Fire, and Earth but could unlock whatever she wanted. These two eles are now handicapped.. yay.. super yay.. yay.. thanks Anet.. yay.

Your 80 is handicapped how? I would assume you unlock all core before you are able to go into elite specs.

Lyrrados.4269:

Aerlen.5326:

SCREAM Why would you trait all eles to EARTH. ALL OF THEM. WHY?? I had no points in Earth, WHY? My ten other under level 80’s were all given stats that were appropriate but every ele, every last one, was given Earth. Every ele I ask got Earth too. WHY?

I’m not going to grind to 80 just so ‘everything is unlocked’ to fix your mistake, that’s bullkitten and you know it. I’m not going to do 60 hero challenges to fix your mistake, that is also bullkitten. Why, just why? I’m playing with a handicap now if I want to enjoy those toons instead of the boost every other toon on my account got.

ARGH.

eh? Must have been a small sample. My elementalist who is 67 doesn’t have a single hero point in Earth. Pic attached.

Would be funny if all this was that both his/her elementalists loged out attuned to earth and thats why he/she got it.

Aerlen.5326:

I got lucky. It’s just my eles. Every other under 80 toon got traits that suit them or can be worked with.

An air focuses ele got Earth. A water focuses ele got Earth.

The justification is “you can unlock everything at 80”. Great anet – insta 80 me then.

Well since earth is bleeding and conditions are usefull now go get em tiger.

daksh.2176:

The reason that zerker gear is the best in pve is because of two reasons
1- people want to get their rewards as fast as they can. (Raises hand)
2- THIS IS THE BIG ONE- The fights in pve are NOT HARD AT ALL so in turn don’t require any other gear than just dps gear.

For example- in the current pve the monsters are so predictable and stupid that dodging is enough to avoid most damage. I mean why the hell would I wear healing gear and kill the mob in 2mins while out healing the damage it does to me when I can wear berserker gear and kill it on 10 secs. The fights in pve are not hard at all and people want their rewards as fast as possible so they wear zerker gear. ITS NOT THE GEAR ITS THE FIGHTS.
And
If anet does decide to do something about the “meta” it should be by making stuff harder to do, NOT by nerfing berserker gear.
ANET PLEASE NOTE
“Harder” doesn’t mean more hp and attacking quicker. It means having interesting and challenging mechanics and less predictable AI. One of my favorite fights in the game is the end boss of the Grawl fractal which has interesting and fun mechanics, constant pressure from the fear of catching on fire but still rather easy IMO.

Another way I think fights can be a bit more challenging is if ANET introduced a gambit system to instanced content. The more and harder gambits you pick, the better reward you get.
Let’s hope challenging group content is not just mobs with high health and slow attacks and not open world afk zergfests. I’m hoping for a raid system with at least minimum of 10 people inside a hard yet fun instanced type mode.

There will always be a meta, even if it’s putting water fields on top of the boss and hoping he drowns (lol hodgins from ac)

Im going to link people here when they scream nerf on conditions, thanks for the write up

sweatycool.9624:

RIP Buffed conditions, didn’t even last.

Back to the berserker meta i guess….

Well atleast we have the memory we can say -Rememeber that day conditions were usefull
Then nod at eachother -yea I can

There is a limit on 500 a week now was implemented months ago.
So if you got 100 from other sources you cant withdraw anymore this week

Jordo.5913:

http://i.imgur.com/xA8qvVk.png

that’s the elite spec background for thieves

that bo staff model was also datamined by that_shaman

And that picture could in no way be a revenant perhaps?

Jordo.5913:

Calm down young grasshopper!

I do not think that thief getting a staff is a bad thing.

The Revenant staff was already revealed as a melee staff user, so I think the thief may be getting a bit of a ranged staff option, perhaps called the Shadowmage, or something to the likes. I believe this to be because the Revenant is the new hotness, and they don’t want to dilute the new hotness by giving melee staff ALSO as an elite spec for another class.

I do believe their staff option is going to be ranged. I can only imagine the uproar if it was another melee option.

Yes you are right about the staff being ranged and it will be the ranger spec Druid as stated in the expansion video from january.

People remember nothing.

Kadsik.9281:

I REALLY, do not want a friggin, bo staff as the elite thief specialization, why can we have a ranged weapon?, i really hope the datamined picture just supposed to be something else. LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS RIFLE,im sure more people want rifle than people that want anything else.

What are theif lacking a 1200 ranged weapon no specilisation have had the same weapon so bow is out what is left?

I would guess a rifle but anet seem to make the oddest range weapons. ( Im looking at you greatsword and hammer)

I would laugh so hard if thief got dual torch as 1200 range weapons =)

You cant ( as previous poster said level up more or grab som easy hero points)

Jerus.4350:

JonPeters.5630:

Just getting these out there so we know we are all in agreement:

1) Conditions seem a bit strong
2) World bosses are currently too easy
3) There are some bugged skills and traits
4) There are some overpowered builds

We won’t fix it all at once but these are four large topics we are talking about. In the meantime keep the feedback and bug reports coming, and I guess farm up some world bosses. We are dedicating time towards these issues and are intending to resolve them as quickly as possible. As we have said before, the live environment differs too greatly from anything we can reliably simulate internally so big changes like today’s build will cause things to sometimes change at an alarming rateTM.

Thanks for your patience,

Jon

Just… YES. Can’t say anything has re-assured me in this game as much as this simply post has. The fact that you came out an acknowledged some issues, well it’s a breath of fresh air to me. So for that Thank you Jon, take as much time as you need, the fact that you acknowledge the issues is all I ever ask. (cough cough, still waiting to hear about Lupi cough cough, but don’t take that with any negativity Jon, what you just did was strait awesome).

Yes I agree this is much much better then the wall of silence.

Psaakyrn.5794:

I’ll laugh if bosses suddenly start using convert-condition-to-boons skills.

Guess we just have to use coorupt/strip boons then no biggy

Test.8734:

sirsquishy.8531:

Lol. No doubt that the community is 100% to blame for the ‘free’ character slot here. But conceited much?

If I said that everyone should never complain about anything ArenaNet does, I would only be smothering any kind of construtive feedback. I have often read the claim that there is no constructive feedback in this forum and so that no one should complain about anything, but this situation – and the fact ArenaNet reacted thanks to what the players said – is the perfect example of something that was only achieved because players told ArenaNet something was wrong.

This is an important lesson for some people.

Yes but as negative as you have been on the forum the name for his char should be Test was right for once

Edit
But then again why should you get all the fame there wasent like Test was the only one who was right this time.

Want all of us others to stand in the background with T-shirts saying I was as right as Test but all I got was this bloody T-shirt

And if Im a charr and have killed my gods what do I get then?

well considering normal lines are what 60 points I would expect the same.

then for skills seem to vary abit more there somewere bettwen 8-24 seem to be the norm so max 84 points

Its all guesses we have no information on how big the expansion will be….
Other that each map will have 3 biomes/layers

Behellagh.1468:

You bought the game before Jan 23rd so if you pre-purchase HoT you will get a character slot. But only if you pre-purchase and apply it by July 31st.

Read OP more closely next time there is no were on this earth were 25th of january 2015 is before 23 january 2015.

If he/she want they can upgrade to hot basic edition for free by talking to support if they bought through their homepage.

If from amazon or other 3rd party retailer they get a char slot added to their hot edition just like veterans do.

Edit

Abit confused were is the two sales op is complaning about his/her 1 account.

your complaining that 2h weapon lose out on 1 stat point?

I see thanks for info guys

Tagar.6470:

If I had all skill unlocked on character A,B,C,D pre patch then why do I not have them all unlocked now?

Becouse there is a new system for unlocking so all had to be unlearned.

what is pricess?
Have I missed the dragon ore eater?

dietzero.3514:

The problem is that Teq and other world bosses are balanced around power damage and critical hit immunity. So when a condition build comes along that can do far more damage than pure power, they will die very fast.

I think they need to remove crit immunity and rebalance all world bosses.

Considering conditions cant crit and they now after a ramp up time are close to what a direct damage person do right away… can you please explain why remove crit immunity?

its not like there is 1 person applying those 80-100 bleeds.

Captain Unusual.9163:

Huck.1405:

azizul.8469:

direct damage has had it’s time. time for condi to shine.

No, direct damage should ALWAYS be the main way to inflict damage. Conditions should just be a little extra.

Why? I’m interested in why you think half the damage in the game shouldn’t be useful.

I am intrested to since this mostly affect pve… you know you got condie cleanse that you can use to take away these right and then they do as little as 1/10 of their damage to you… What do others have that soak as much from a powerbuild?

Depends if you have any hero points left to open up another core specilization if not…. go out in the 5 dif race starting areas and grab all the hero point challenges to get some skillpoints quick.

No your skill point scrolls are spirit shards now.

Press i see the coins in the bottm left corner click that and you will see you spirit shards that you use to buy stuff from the mystic forge vendor.

The hero points are awared for level up so tomes of knowlage 60 or 78 depending if you got a 20 lvl scroll will give you all you need for the 5 base trait lines and all utility skills.

For the elite specilization you will have to get a unknow number of hero challenges ( formely skill challenges out in the open world )

Westwater.1095:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

When every player does 10k damage now, even 500 stacks of bleed from pure condition users would only add 75k dps. A pittance compared to 100 zerker players doing 10k dps now.

You’re ignoring the fact that conditions are not the ONLY damage a condi user will deal. They are still going to deal direct damage the same way a zerker does now, and if they’re using Sinister gear like most condi users should then it’s not going to be a hugely immense reduction in direct DPS when you’re just missing a little power and crit damage.

So now when condi users are closer to zerkers people start to complain its not like you dont do the same oh im wrong even more damage then you did before to.

I can be abit more clear

For all players who registered the core Guild Wars 2® game prior to January 23, 2015 and who upgrade their account by prepurchasing and registering any Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns edition before Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns‘ launch, we will add one additional character slot to your Guild Wars 2 account

The boldened parts seem to indicate that any=all editions get a additional slot meaning base 1 deluxe 2 ultimate 2

Do people read the blogpost at all? ( english is my second language to )

Maybe you should be alittle more honest mate.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Bought-a-game-key-through-Amazon-in-February/first#post5192676

Its not anets fault you bought from a 3rd party retailer that dont offer refunds on digital goods.

You wanted to save a buck and not buy from anet, now when they offer refunds to people who bought from them you throw a tempertantrum.

Edit

With the offer of an additional char slot for people who bought from third party retailers you are loseing out on 10$ of your base purchase.

You saying you havent had more entertainement or equal to 2 nights at the movies?

I think the nr comes from 49$bas 50$ expansion…..

And mate you can wait untill next expansion to get 2 for the price of 1 so base exp nr1 and nr2 for total of 99 bucks….

Since ofcourse playtime dont make your value go down at all.

Thats why you can sell a car back to the store after 8 years for the same you bought it for.

How would you expect them to put something in that they havent said they are working on?

Yes forget about the Ready Up Core Specializations Summary by Anatoli Ingram on April 28, 2015 almost two months ago saying it would happen

And the Skills and Balance Changes on the Next Episode of Ready Up by Joshua Davis on June 12, 2015 almost 2 weeks ago.

Its not like this was a stealth change…. and you gain more for your points now before a fresh level 80 lvled with tomes of knowlage wouldent get all the utilitys bought with skillpoints just from that.

Well yes techincaly but I dont think you will be able to take over the location for the guild hall by your self

level up to 80 and the hero skill challenges out in the world.

So fastest would be lvl 20 scroll and 60 tomes of knowlage or 78 tomes of knowlage

Fluff Kamisama.3417:

Linken.6345:

but zerker with same player skill as one with what ever else is still faster

I do not care for speed. I’m not a speed runner or plan to ever be a speed running. Zerks are unappealing to me.

Then dont make this pointless thread mate play what ever you like, saying this as a celestial shout warrior btw =)

but zerker with same player skill as one with what ever else is still faster

root.9415:

All of you with stacks of spare skill points laying around must not WvW or build siege very much. I had to spend what precious few points I had left to rebuy skills I already had.

Amazing please tell me how you did it since people are screaming for a way to turn spirit shards into hero points. Sensei we need your wisdom

Oxidia.8103:

Every week 3 of this thread pops up. God forbid people use a wonderfull thing called “search this forum” that’s just too much effort.

Might be becouse the search function dont friggin work

No they changed it so now you only have to be 80 to unlock all the core specilizations.

The others you will use for thr elite specilization that come in hot and more of them further down the line

Edit
Before it was lvl 80 +65 skill point challenges out of 189 never was 100% map complete

i still got the black wings in my inbox it will stay mate.

mmiminoo.4319:

For what ? is only stupid CRAP for nothing
i have 2000 +
I WANT more Hero points on my OTHER charakter (under lvl 80) !!!!!!
WHY i cannot change for stupid SHARDs to Hero points ??
WHY ????
I save skill scroll for future character
NOT for Stupid Shards !!!

The go do some hero challanges on the maps or level them up to 80

SilverThorn.5047:

It would be great to know actual skill points to hero points conversion… I had 750 ish skill points… And recieved bout 385 hero points. With my fully unlocked skills locked back…. Answers plix

You sure you loged on to the right character? I just loged on to my warrior to check and he had like 730 skill points over and all unlocked he just bumped my spirit shards by 940

BruinsFan.7231:

Ok, I had every skill unlocked for all 5 of my level 80 characters and now Anet wants me to unlock them again?!
Nice one Anet.
It’s crap like this that is making me seriously consider not purchasing HoT.

Yes and you do it with the skillpoints you got from lvling 1-80 now known as hero points…. the skill point scrolls and the once from lvling up past 80 is now spirit shards that are used for the mystic forge ( just as before)

Your not losing a single point. your even gaining more since you couldent unlock all your skills by just going 1-80.