Guild Wars 2

Blazing Liger.1236:

ANet’s community participation and openness to feedback from the playerbase has been pretty bad since GW2 beta. I was very wary when they refused to listen to constructive criticism during the beta, and it’s only gotten worse since. I’ve said again and again, they need someone to fill Gaile’s old role as the point of contact for players. Even if all they said was ’I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to tell you anything more,’ that would be MUCH better than the silence we’ve been getting.

No that wouldent help at all if they cant tell us anything they stay silent.
Having someone throw out one liners that they cant speak do not help the issues.

Yea Im still waiting for an answer to this one my first and only pre is for this legendary.
I aint crafting it untill its fixed.

American english/ Brittish english its no differance mate

And what about the vets that dont need a character slot but still want to be compensated aint 800 gems better so you can buy what you want.

Yes but she wont get hot on her old account it will be tied to her new fresh account.

Hwarang.4789:

maha.7902:

and using wall of reflection requires timing to use when a boss is actually using their projectiles, retreat requires timing to block a relevant attack, a warrior needs to place their banners in the more relevant fights rather than every trash mob, a thief needs to place their smoke screen during a mesmer/guardian’s reflect downtime and so on and so forth.

“hitting as many allies as possible” literally just means using a utility skill while around people, I don’t get how that is so exciting when you do that anyway. guardian tome can burst heal as well.

you literally could have just said “I find healing more interesting than the support options currently present in the game” but instead you’re trying to make it sound a lot more awesome than it actually is, when what you’re asking for is already present in the game.

i suppose so. My opinion is definitely very biased. But out of all the things you’ve mentioned that was one skill per class. Every class has one skill that supports somebody in someway since it is a team game in pvp and in WvW, it’s no surprise. However what i really seek is a support play style that can do everything from ccing, to blinds and reflects and or heals as you mentioned above ^^ This is just one of the selfish things that i’ve always wanted in gw2 and i mentioned in the post that i am aware that i doubt anything would happen ’cause of one person, so i was wondering who else thought the same way i do.

mesmer with healing mantras and feedback seem to be what your looking for

DiogoSilva.7089:

This thread is about how fun or not fun support playstyles are, not about how useful they are in the current pve meta.

I agree that support is currently not very fun. I mean, timing and positioning your reflection is cool, and combo fields/ finishers can lead to some interesting rotations, but other than that, you’re simply going to melee range and throwing your PBAoE support skills to your allies, many of them that are fire-and-forget or even instant-cast. It’s not exactly… the most satisfying playstyle.

Sure, for players that like going offense with secondary support, which is how the current pve meta is more or less defined, they won’t mind. There’s plenty of other things that make it funnier, like damage rotations, timing some crowd control effects, or the pure satisfaction of seeing high numbers over your opponent’s head, etc. But for those players that wish for a more supportive/ less offensive playstyle (note: this does not means that I’m defending a holy trinity setup), the playstyle is simply not very interesting.

Fortunately, anet realizes that. Ventari’s tablet and staff seems to have a very elaborated playstyle based on support. Tablet positioning, delayed heals, your token anti-projectile field – which you can even move, healing shards on the ground that need to be catched, etc.

I hope to see more fun and elaborated playstyles around support (and crowd control too) in the future. Stuff that makes you spend more time supporting or controlling that merely dealing damage, but while still making combat as fun and as interesting.

Cant engi do something similar with medkit utility?

Baconplease.1657:

People who are upset are in-love with the game. Perhaps you are mistaking Passion and admiration for something else.

People are mad because ANET lied to new players by having them purchase The base game later changing the FAQ to say “HOT will include the base game”

These players now have to pay $50.00 for a game they bought a few months ago in preparation for HOT.

Some people are able to get a refund because of this but this also means a wipe of all the progress from 1-3 months in advance.

It was a shady dealing. That is a fact.
also $50.00 USD for this “x pac” is not worth it.

We will be getting specilizations (non-elite), a new WvW map, a new pvp mode, some new masteries, without needing to purchase HOT.

What does that leave HOT? Living story (Lelelelel), a new class, and 3 maps, and guild halls?
Guild halls should of already been included in the base game (GUILD wars)

I have over 5000 hours from the base game from over 3 years, will i get another 5000 hours from the same price?

Also not including a character slot for $50.00 was a kittenbag move because many players are relying on that slot for Rev.

You wont have access to any of the mastery lines in core world without having the expansion read the mastery blogpost in news section again mate

TheDaiBish.9735:

On the weekend?

I think you’d have an easier time asking them to plan a manned mission to the sun.

On another note, have they said that we’re getting raids?

No they have not

I wouldent trust that site at all. We got no information on physical copies being released

Cyninja.2954:

A.) You can wait until HoT releases, then get the core game and the expansion at one price. But you’ll only be able to play once the exansion releases.

B.) You can buy the core game now (base gw2) but any amount of money you spend will be essentially wasted since you still have to pay 50,- $ for HoT.

A is wrong they get to start playing straight away on thier core account.

Avster.1935:

The HoT purchase is separate from Living World Season 2.

Can you provide a link were they have stated this?
I havent seen any word about it, hence why I made this thread.

mistnmc
I’m totally ok with price being $50 for HoT and a free SEPERATED gw2 account.

Galen grey
That would be a really bad move on Anet part. I guarantee you if they did that there will be millions of new cheap keys on sale on sites like G2A essentially cheating Anet out of millions in sales.

If the added game is what we have now they arent cheated out of a single sale, we arent asking for old account + hot and a additional base game + hot expasion after all.

We all want the same as the new guys some want to give it to friends/family some just want added laurels/daily login for their main account.

coso.9173:

Kaleban.9834:

coso.9173:

stop complaining. you can choose to either update your ld account to HoT and have it all unlocked, OR get a new account with HoT included, but your old account won’t have HoT.
If you could have BOTH a new account with HoT and your OLD account with HoT then that means you would have TWO expansions, and that’s (like everything that people are complaining about) ridiculous.

No one is asking for that, no one is confused about that, so why are you trying to make it a thing?

yes, people are complaing about it and I’ve read it several times already today. They say they want all a new player gets, and they can, if they start a new account.
then they say that they don’t want to have their old account with no HoT, that means they want both a new account with HoT and their old account with it too.
You can’t have it all.

Learn to read please, people want same thing new people get yes.
they want expansion on their old account + a free none hot account.

new people = base account + expansion.
old people = base account + expansion (tied to their already existing account)

thehipone.6812:

Calcanius.5048:

Stop the white knight.
Two people go into same shop to buy a bundle made out of 2 items, lets call the item BOB, Person 1 already have a BOB and person two dont.
Bundle contains BOB and a expansion for BOB.

The Problem is when you leave the store, a store clerk come running after you and say to the one: Sorry Sir, but i see that you already have BOB at home and takes your BOB away.

Both payed the same amount, How do you think person 1 feels now ?

This is the main reason people are getting so angry. We hate when other steal from us

Only in the mind of MMO players is someone else getting something equal to you having something stolen from you.

Better:
Nearly every day Customer A goes to a cafe that has great coffee and breakfast sandwiches. Some days he gets coffee and a sandwich, some days just coffee. Yesterday he went in and bought a coffee and sandwich. Today customer A goes in and just buys a coffee. At the same time, Customer B walks in and orders the same coffee too. The cafe owner notices that Customer B has never been there before and asks, “Is this your first time here? Our specialty is the bacon and egg sandwich.” Sensing an opportunity to create a repeat customer, the cafe owner offers Customer B a sandwich for free with his coffee purchase.

Normal world thinking: The cafe owner is using a promotion to try to create a new “regular” customer.

MMO forum thinking: Customer A had the sandwich that he ate yesterday stolen from him.

If its a promotion then every person entering that cafe that day should get the same deal not just new ones.

evoRobot.4019:

Everyone who wants the core game free, pre purchase HoT and there you go.

The new player is not gaining anything, Anet is nice enough to offer the complimentary core game for free with pre-purchase. The game is roughly worth ($10) at lowest selling point and you need to consider depreciation for the game after 3 years!

All in all the X-pack is 50$. Its fair to question the value, but it ends there. The core value of the game has not been included in the $50.

if the core game s roughly worths 10 bucks then give veterans and expansion for 40 bucks why is it so hard to do?

coso.9173:

free only if you get the expansion, which doesn’t translate for free on its own.
the supermarket has a sale where the second tuna can I buy is free, can I just buy the second one and not the first?
please stop with this complaint, it’s ridiculous.

Im sorry I see here you already have a tuna at home so your second tuna is now impounded and you still have to pay the full price on the first tuna

Op you already answered your question its Beta not early access, so no it wont stay.

As of now its only free if you dont have it already yes

from the trailer from e3 it looks like it is located in heart of thorns territory making me assume that yes you will need hot to access it.

https://.www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5oUKqbIVM
Also 11:10 into that link the dev speaks about needing to have expasion to access things in wvw and pve

Robert Devine.3087:

All I see are people complainig about not getting gems or chracter slits for buying the expansion. You already do not have to pay a subscription fee. I have never seen a community of players whine about not getting free stuff added to a game so much. Maybe it is the non subscription that has created this mentality but arenanet does not owe you guys anything but a game that you have bought to play. Thats it period.

But they are not giving people what they paid for.
New player base game + hot
Old player hot ( were is my second base game i can use myself or give away to a friend)

if the base game is free then give a key to all the ones who buy hot so the get a second account without hot if they already own it.

if you ask for a refund and get it granted your account will be terminated.

So you wont keep your week worth of progress mate sorry to say.

if you already have the game you dont get any slots for base expansion.

Yes you will be able to play the same game you play now

Donno about guild halls they dont get the new specilizations and they dont get the mastery system.

Some of the things on new WvW map will be locked aswell
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5oUKqbIVM

check 11:10 onwards on that link

THen they could never sell future living world for gems anymore since people prebuy it with expansion.

and you can buy it right now and start playing in the core world, so yea they should feel disappointed of have spending those extra 10$

Diovid.9506:

Things that are confirmed to be for all players:

- Stronghold.
- WvW updates.
- New WvW borderlands.
- Specialization system.

Things that are confirmed to be HoT-only:

- Masteries
- Elite specializations.
- New areas.
- Future living story.
- Revenant.

Things I am unsure about:

- Guild Halls (I am pretty sure I read somewhere that creation of guild halls is HoT-only but people without HoT can still enter them).
- Guild leaderboards.

You wont be able to use all the things on the new WvW boarderlands was stated in angry joes video bettwen 11:10-12:01

Yes

Every edition of Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns includes access to the core Guild Wars 2 game, so you can start your journey right away.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-is-available-for-pre-purchase/

Wolfric.9380:

But what if i want a second one for a relative and trasfer a character? No Problem if the new one starts from 0 with alss account shared things. Just trasfer a char with all his stuff and skills.

Sadly i think the characters cant be transfered to another account, its the same that you cant have 2 chars on eu version and 3 chars on us version aswell.

Then dont leave untill the event is finished, mega servers were introduced so they could merge people on fewer instances of maps if needed

Lord Kuru.3685:

Zende.1704:

Liisjak.4509:

No. He’ll also need HoT, and then you’ll have another base account which you will give out, and that guy will also need HoT…it’s an endless cycle haha, well the perfect money sink.

And what if I want an account without HoT for, say the login rewards?

You’ll have to use your current account for login rewards and treat your HoT account as your main account. Of course, if another expansion comes, you’ll be starting from scratch again when your HoT account transitions to being a second login rewards account.

Nah you just merge the next expansion with your old core account getting hot and the new expansion on the old one.

As the title states, I’m pondering if I should start fresh on a new account to get most bang for my buck or upgrade the existing one.

Galen Grey.4709:

mrstealth.6701:

It’s an entirely different situation than the sales on the base game we’ve seen already. When the base game is put on sale, existing players have no reason to buy it. It doesn’t offer anything, unless you want an extra account. New players buying this are just getting the game at a lower price, which is something that happens with any game some time after release.

What we have with the expansion pricing, is something that every existing player has a reason to buy. And every player that does buy it has to get the same bundled deal. But only new players actually get the benefit of the bundled deal. Two groups of people, paying the same price, at the same time, for the same package, but one group only gets to use part of the package. Existing players don’t even get the option to use the extra core game key for an extra account, or to give to a friend.

Had they done this sometime after release as part of a promotion, I think it would have been fine. But to have this from day one, as the only option, and giving your existing playerbase nothing extra while handing out $40 worth of core game free to new players is inviting a well-deserved PR nightmare.

its not an entirely different situation, its exactly the same thing. well with 100% discount instead of 75% of course. Lets say this week they do a promotion where everyone can get the game for free and next week they open pre-orders for HoT for $50. Isnt that exactly the same thing both in terms of previous promotion and what they actually did?

This akin to some promotions vendors of rechargable batteries do. Sometimes with large packs they give you a free charger. At times it doesnt matter cause you already own a charger but if you dont and you need a charger you will likely choose that brand. I who already own a charger am not being cheated, I am paying exactly the same price. I dont see how delaying the promotion will change anything. Should I get angry if I find the charger promotion the same day I need to buy batteries but be totally fine with it if the actual promotion happens the week after, IE 7 days after I would have already bought the batteries I need?

Anger on this is misguided in my opinion.

Yes but then you have 2 charges so you can charge your batteries faster and you can use either your new charger or old charger to start charging them aswell.

Your example we should get upgrade for hot on either accounts of gw2 we have new or old it wouldent matter. ( and here is were that example fall apart)

Menadena.7482:

Mortee.2648:

Thank you!! Got to 80% map completion so almost got 1 of em yay

Yay!

You will find that finding the final area(s) is the most annoying part though. I have 2 zones that are forever cluttering my list of achievements I have mostly done because they each have one area left. Making that list next to useless since it only shows the top 3 items.

Some of them dont show up since they dont have a mark( point of interest vista waypont or heart) on map.

here is a good link to find those last areas
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zone

your mixing it up with the one were you have to swim down to the treasure mate

I think the op wants 3 branches with 3 choices in each core specializations

the example with 1 button first pressing f1 then nr1 weapon skill is not allowed since its two actions f1 and 1

Teratus.2859:

Honestly the dragons don’t feel that threatening at all..

ok I’ll give Modremoth some props though since his living world made him a lot more dominant a threat..

but Zhaitan.. oh some undead here wondering around.. no he was not a threat..

in fact I actually felt guilty about killing him.. he felt more like a mutated freak that just wanted to be left alone and we marched in there all high and mighty and murdered him..

Zhaitan just didn’t feel like a threat because there was too much focus on his minions
and the Risen are more or less just a copy paste concept of Gw1’s undead.. zombies.. again yay..

the problem with The Elder Dragons is that all of their glory is being stolen because of their direct inaction.. that makes them ghosts essentially

Modremoth is the only one who feels like a threat because of his vines which were confirmed to be him and not minions.. are actually popping up everywhere and destroying stuff

All the other dragons are in the same situation as Zhaitan..
Thier minions have all the glory because the dragons themselves for one thing are not even in the game yet.. and becuase they have no direct impact on the game either

Like I said this makes them Ghosts and their direct inaction on the world kills their threat factor almost completely

I don’t feel like the world is under attack by dragons..

I fell like the world is under attack by Zombies, Purple Rock people, Angry Norn, Racist Charr, Bandits, Horse People, Asuran Supremacists, Evil Tree People and some other factions..

The Elder Dragons… they just seem to exist..
but with Exception to Modremoth who so far has been the best example of why an Elder Dragon should be feared..

Jormag, Primordus, Kralkatorrick, Zhaitan and Bubbles…. all awake and all feel as threatening as some kid online saying he’s gonna find where you live and come beat you up..

You got that wrong only 2 dragons have arised from their slumber so far mate.

Knighthonor.4061:

RAIDs are coming. ..get ready for the rage

You got that quote wrong its “Winter is coming” mate

uhohhotdog.3598:

Ayrilana.1396:

uhohhotdog.3598:

I think the dailies need better gold rewards. Don’t care much about the achievement points.

I don’t think adding more gold into the economy is a good thing and especially something done on a global scale such as daily rewards.

Just need more gold sinks.

Then its better not to put in more ways to earn gold if you then have to turn around and invent new gold sinks ( making it dubble or tripple work for people to get the illusion of earning more money )

No not really people could give a estimated guess if you say how many paths you done in each dungeon tho

Beldin.5498:

From my understanding it makes sense to NOT spent more points then really needed
at the moment and wait for the changes, since i think everything will reset after that
and you need 465 of the new points to have all skills and traits.
400 you have if your 80, for the other 65 you need to do skill challanges, you look at
your map if you have 65 or more .. if not try to get at least 65.

All the core skills yes, expansion specilization aint counted into those 465 points

How about -No they are not needed

well the book i can understand you should get the earlier one if u have the completed one, with eternity if it was the same you shouldent unlock the sunrise twilight and pre if you bought it.

Yes the skills on your character will be reset when the trait revamp hits.

If those are your two flaws that made you quit.
I wouldent recommend you to come back since they havent changed

more like a line then a cone

Jana.6831:

Linken.6345:

And you can still do that just get a skillpoint farming char once it get to 80 delete and remake.

And that would help me with what?

well nothing i had a brain freeze since you wont get spirit shards from lvling up its hero points after change was thinking you could use food below 80 =)