Guild Wars 2

mtpelion.4562:

Liston.9708

Guesting and transferring are not the same thing though…..

In terms of current active population, they are exactly the same thing.

But above you said it is not based on active population (which I don’t think is right). Guess I i don’t understand what you are really trying to do…

In the past, people could transfer to “full” servers at certain times of the day because the status would drop to “very high” for brief slices of time. Prior to season 2 this happened at or near NA prime leading to the “server black out” discussions to squeeze guilds in. This leads me to believe it is related to active/on-line pop, but I can’t say I know that for sure – maybe it is some calculation of active-online and total pop……

mtpelion.4562:

Altie.4571:

mtpelion.4562:

FYI, the “Full” status has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with how many people are currently online, but rather with how many people have joined the server.

This means that someone who hasn’t logged on in over a year but who happens to have their characters on SoS is blocking your friend from joining your server.

The only way your friend will be able to join the server will be if someone who is currently on SoS decides to transfer off. Banned accounts may also free up space, though they are technically still on the server since the data is never deleted (since someone could contest the ban and get back into the game and server).

Not the way that I’ve experienced it at all. Maybe someone can shed some light on this, but I have transferred to a full server by using the servers downtime.

Also many servers in wvw have used the “black-out” option which is a mass log-out that reduces the world population and allows guilds to transfer to the server. Unless that has changed recently, it’s still the way server population is calculated.

If you have access to test this, try guesting to a “full” server right now.

You’ll join the server with no problems whatsoever because the population ratings have nothing to do with active players but rather with the total number of accounts on a given server.

I’m going to spend a little time to see if I can find a Red post on this (search doesn’t work well which makes it take more time than it should so I’ll probably give up after several pages).

Guesting and transferring are not the same thing though…..

It is surprising to see the very high list – dark haven, GOM, SOR, and to lesser extent YB -CD.

More surprising FA is high…..

zhonnika.1784:

They did say unique:

“Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!” — https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/announcing-the-world-vs-world-fall-tournament-2014/

They also backtracked on that later when asked about unique…..

Bg Jq tc sos and even db? Are full so those are not choices….. To the OP, you may want to state when you play. A server may defend during one time slot and not during another due to their population…..

Most likely 1. 2 if they are killing dollies / guards etc. Is it really an accomplishment to gank a pve peep? To me it isn’t so why bother with 3, but to each their own – not going to care if others do it.

tym.3791:

….. I miss YB. We may most the time have a few more people playing, but YB is NASTY when it comes to defense. Try to take something of YB, and your gonna get a AC shower LOL.

Didn’t think I’d ever see that statement. Thought YB was the side everyone hates to fight…..

nekretaal.6485:

Why weren’t there free server transfers before this season?

HOD season 2 is why.

XApocalypse.8739:

The shield should keep it’s aura while sheathed that would be a nice addition to it. While sheathed it just looks like a gold book and doesn’t stand out at all.

I love this shield. I would like to see the full effects all the time as well. They are not overpowering effects at all which makes this one of my favorites…..

That difference between tiers appears to be everywhere not just t1 and t2…… T3-t4 was close, but not since tourney was announced….

Whoever was 5-6 in gold was going to get demolished….. Sort of like 8-9 in silver etc…..

Danikat.8537:

thefinnster.7105:

i still dont see the point you spend 300 tournament tickets either way so what was the point in buying all those heroes weapons when you could have saved the tickets till later and not have to spend the other resources
lets say for example at the end of this tournament i have 200 tickets left im not gona buy 2 heroes weapons and hold on to em for god knows how long ill just hold the tickets till i actualy have 300 next match up and go straight for a mistforged weapon

As I understand it the thinking was that some people wouldn’t like waiting until a later tournament to get their reward. They’d rather get a weapon right away and upgrade it later for a little extra cost, that way at least they got something.

The way season 2 was supposed to work – servers 7 8 9 in a bracket would not have had enough tickets for a mist forged. Because of the reward delay / screw up everyone was issued bonus tickets and they ended up with enough tickets for a mist forged anyway. That said, I wouldn’t by a hero myself.

Originally, in season 2 lowest ranking servers could not have bought mist forged. Idea was to allow them to buy heroes and upgrade them s3…. Well with the reward screwup, every one got enough tickets for mist forged anyway…..

Claim tickets the following week. Spend tickets whenever. Tickets are the same as season 2. Tickets in season 45 6 etc should be the same (or until told they are not)

Yes and yes si-sbi

Ok – surprised no one said transfer to YB – the ACs will all be on your side…..

(I am YB btw)

Crius.5487:

Forget the sharks.. New bay upgrade; Release the Kraken. Suppose Hills would need a special avalanche upgrade to balance it out though.

Multiple upgrades…

1) bigger badder faster sharks
2) schools of jellyfish
3) shools of piraña
4) the kraken – think world boss.

ProTech.8402:

I think it is good as it is currently. You don’t want the people who are on EotM in the real WvW maps. They don’t go to TS, have berserker gear, uplevel characters, etc. So they are basically rallybots. If the EotM population collectively decided to do WvW instead you have insane queses on maps, they try to karma train and flip things instead of defending, etc. This happened in Season 1 and it was horrible. You could not do anything in the first couple of weeks until the PvE achievement hunters finished their achievements. It’s much better this way, only the people who care about WvW go to the Borderlands/EB.

EotM is also a good place to level alts.

If there was no eotm, I doubt many of those people would go to the real wvw. They just want an easy champ train / place to level. That said, eotm is great – if I need karma for some reason….

style.6173:

Liston.9708:

When wvw is queued, how about shortening the AFK timer? Annoying to see people AFK while others who want to play cannot get in…. I know a few minutes to go get a drink – go to the bathroom is legit, but at what point should they be booted 10 mins? The timers seem longer than that, but it admit I never actually timed it myself…..

Wow. Where do you play that you get queues? I am in T1 and we rarely see more than 1 map queued during NA prime during the week. Reset night is different of course.

Was referring to reset NA prime…… Yb

Count me as one who went to wvw for completion and never left. The one thing I do think is odd is the lack of variation of pois / vistas on 3 maps that are the same. Why not move them around a bit?

style.6173:

Junkpile.7439:

Better fights in EotM. Loot doesn’t really matter.

Better fights? You’d probably like PvE more.

The reality is that people go to EotM for one of 3 reasons:
1. Karma train
2. Level an alt
3. Waiting for a queue to pop

Few people go to EotM for fights. There is no skill required in killing a bunch of uplevels/karma trainers.

4) champ train /loot

They do need to nerf eotm loot OR increase real wvw loot to put it in the same ball park… WXP could be nerfed too in eotm as well IMHO

Kill the up levels that don’t even know what wvw is a few times – they leave. Train dead.

That said, I do wonder what queues in real wvw during season has done to eotm even if temporarily…..

YB hardly stacked – only an issue during seasons and maybe only reset at that.

When wvw is queued, how about shortening the AFK timer? Annoying to see people AFK while others who want to play cannot get in…. I know a few minutes to go get a drink – go to the bathroom is legit, but at what point should they be booted 10 mins? The timers seem longer than that, but it admit I never actually timed it myself…..

Based on past history with people not get rewards and region switch being a common factor – region switch mid season may not be the best move if you want the rewards.

While I understand the concept, a weekly that takes way less effort than a daily just Isn’t right….

With huge queues …..

Jeknar.6184:

Liston.9708:

Hopefully never again – totally screwed up season 2.

Like the season idea wasn’t totally screwed already…

Well that’s true, but hod season 2 made it even worse….

Hopefully never again – totally screwed up season 2.

It worked for me in the mists without issue, but I haven’t had the weird lag either. Amd card here if that makes a difference….

Roach.1395:

…. I sure hope your right, there is a chance I am reading it wrong. However they use the pronoun “reward” for both.
-“Rewards Must be Claimed by” with dates on the table.
-"The Battle Historian, located at the portal keeps in each WvW map, will continue to offer WvW-exclusive weapons and other tournament rewards. "
-The table lists the items with “Cost in Tickets”
The English used labels both the Tickets earned (by your world placement) as a REWARD and what you can use the tickets towards as a REWARD. My question being is which REWARD is the time sensitive?

You are wrong – other poster right. Confirmed by anet when questioned several weeks ago.

Was some speculation in guild that comps with nvidia cards had extreme lag. Could it be that?

Basch.1347:

Banzie.5248:

They stopped pushing after hearing ratings were already locked.

Still no official confirmation of this. Don’t believe yea or nay til a dev speaks on the topic.

It is odd that there was no official statement on when it is locked. I would assume at the end of this week, but maybe locking leagues on reset night based on results from that day is too hard?

Banzie.5248:

Straegen.2938:

CD is playing a bit of possum probably to avoid Gold or they are really disorganized. They have some big numbers a large chunk of the day. Despite all the talk I still haven’t seen a strong DR. They could be chilling until the tournament though (their Hills has been WP’d by YB for a long time). YB is an odd duck but they siege and refresh so there is that. They also seem to have some decent BL groups.

They stopped pushing after hearing ratings were already locked.

And the other thread says they are pushing……

Alvain.7364:

As of now:
No bannering of lord.
No more dead scouts/mesmers.
No more stuck in siege.

Honestly, this should have received a place in the pr for the feature pack. Good work!

Why they excluded this and talked about things that may or may not have been wanted I just don’t get. Glad it’s there though.

What is you armor? Zerk armor for someone new to wvw rarely works well. As you become experienced, it might work out for you ok…

Raine Akrune.8416:

Just call it the KTrain leaderboard

Led by all the eotm commanders

Prysin.8542:

wasnt YB one the last seasons bandwagon server?

That was hod. If anything, guilds left YB prior season 2. What did happen – YB militia showed up for seasons that didn’t prior to season 2.

1) cd, db, dr, YB
5) sbi
6) ioj
7) ns, hod, bp

Tomorrow as part of the china release?

Many of the bigger patches end up being in the afternoon us/NA time….

You can measure by how often, how large, and how long ques are…… If they aren’t the same as before there are fewer people playing.

pdavis.8031:

Stilk.6312:

@ Pdavis & EnemyWhatever

Five facts that will show you that WvW is dying (cauz we talking about Gw2 in the subforum of WvW)

Get a feeling from the devs that they make WvW more about successes and karma train than for good fights – tournaments and EotM are the proof.

Get a feeling from the devs that they make WvW more like a “seasonal type of gameplay” – understand that from the tournaments, when all the features for WvW came with those, and that as soons as it is finish you don’t get anything, not even bug fixes, exploit fixes, hackers ban or lag correction.

Get a feeling from the devs that they laugh at you hard when they call colors on commander tags BIG CHANGES, or when they say that they are exited about attributes on a siege weapon.

Play WvW a bit more (I don’t want to insult you both but I am pretty sure your experience in that mode is pretty poor) get in a teamfight guild and try to find proper fights – it’s harder and harder as guilds and players just leave the game around you.

Look on the WvW forums and try to find actual evidence of dev presence outside of what is called the “periods of acting” (just before a patch like now)

And now just for you #EnemyWhatever, how can you even speak about data when you don’t even bother looking for yourself? Here are two polls that took place on gw2wvw.net (I’m pretty sure you don’t even know that website) :

First one asking if people were exited about the WvW features of the September patch :
64% answered they were unsure to NOT AT ALL – on a total of 726 votes.
Second one asking if the player though Guild Wars 2 is dying :
56% answered yes – on a total of 638 votes.

So, by a third party website that I am sure many WvW players dont even know about, WvW is dying.

“Good fights” is subjective. I find a good fight is one where I dont die, or even a protracted battle. But thats not what everyone considers a good fight.

The seasonal tournaments, I feel are to give WvW players a decent reward. Something to strive for for holding maps, and killing zergs. Having somethinf like that continually would drive players off. The 9 week tournament had players stopping for a time because it got old, with the same match ups, too long to recieve rewards etc.

I feel colored tags, and seige attributes, a new traps, and golem mastery, are big changes. More coordination, more tactical planning, and a fundamental way we play. I feel it gives more incentive to try to defend, instead of endleasly flipping keeps and towers again.

And yes, im just starting to get into wvw. Only rank 39. But I still see lots of players, many of the same groups, everyday, at the same times. Havent noticed a decline in population at all. Although I will say there have been many guild transfers happening lately. We are losing one of our bigger wvw guilds here soon. But they arent leaving the game, just transferring. So while it may appear one paticular server is declining, another is seeing their numbers increase.

Don’t take this the wrong way, but how can you know what the populatiOn is now compared to 3 months – 6 months- 9 month as ago if you are level 39. The game itself is not dead, but wvw is bleeding players to eotm (not really wvw) or other games….

Cruel cruel people…

Take the car to the service station to replace the winter air in the tires for summer air…..

Sanctum.7938:

neomagic.9056:

Yak’s bend is beating Crystal Desert right now. They are probably a better candidate considering they recently got more transfers

The Match-up CD got with Yaks/DR was unfortunate for our rating. The consensus in CD was that we would take a break this reset and be fresh for season since our performance matters very little this week. The fact that Yaks is beating CD now is not an indication of what is to come once season starts. Many Die Hard WvW’s are taking a well deserved break after months of climbing the “Silver Ladder”. We don’t care if we are Silver or Gold. Either way we will “bring it” when Season starts.

And no one else is “pacing” themselves either? Just cd? Ok……….

Cd and ioj have been facing the same set of servers – don’t know how there would be anymore action (people to fight) – unless action means others on your own side to play with.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Liston.9708:

Or go 12-12 split instead of 6-9-9……

the bigger the leagues, the more unbalanced the matches can be.

The bottom 7 in the upper group won’t compete with the top 5, but they won’t be stuck with them for the entire month either. Whoever starts in 6th may as well go to eotm for their ‘wvw’ achieves.

I admit I don’t know how the bottom 12 work out though…..

Or go 12-12 split instead of 6-9-9……

Tongku.5326:

Am already gone, unfortunately there is no viable alternative, not currently on market (ESO kinda blows) and not in the near future. Only game coming close is Archage but its too much construction, raising crops, grinding based and its set in an atmosphere like Eve Online, except fantasy world, so very bad. I played the beta some and already quit and decided I won’t be getting it either. Ended up going back to Rift for a while just for some casual PvE, since at least that’s decent over there.

Expansion there too in October…

Where’s the beef? (Old reference). There are some nice things for sure, but substantive? Not sure……

Rift used mercenaries I’ve pvp because there were way more defiants than guardians. At first it was eh, but then when you started fighting friends – was fun. That could happen here with “server friends” and it is fun….