Guild Wars 2

SlimChance.6593:

Use chat!!

Don’t spam chat, but use it to let your team know whats happening. i.e. If you find yourself outnumber and you go down. Let the team know, where and how many are there.

“I’m down, 3 at home”

“4 at mid”

This and the mini map, should let your team make good choices on where to rotate or where NOT to rotate.

Taking 15 seconds to type something isn’t going to work with almost every interaction the other players do. If I need to tell the person to stomp in chat that takes about 5-6 seconds, and more for them to register and actually do it, it’s faster just doing it myself, If I explain to a person why are they off the point stomping when they clearly have a range weapon it takes longer for me to get them to realize what’s going on then actually doing it myself. If I have to tell some one to res me when I’m trying to res or rally, I can’t type res me when I’m about to get stomped. etc, etc, I could go on and on…

I admit there are situations where you can type something while auto running to a point where I have a few seconds to type something but one cannot simply expect to be handheld in every single situation in pvp…

I get that too, sometimes I really don’t care about the outcome because I already know I’m playing with people who have no clue on what works in pvp.

I might join when I pvp

If you’re down and they have one down you and everyone on your team should be bursting that one down player to rally, that’s one of my points.

Galandil.9641:

Let’s add one thing: if you’re down and there’s your scrapper teammate around, try not to constantly use downed #1 when he uses the stealth gyro to avoid you being stomped.

You can see the little white animation on when the gyro stomps to cc it too.

If you have a general build, not exactly specialized for any particular role you’re hurting your win to loss ratio as well as your teams’.

Yes if ressing will get you in trouble don’t do it, it’s situational.

But either burst, bunk, decap/cap, res/react to counter their PPT/fights. Have to go in with an agenda/objectively.

Torafugu.1087:

Littlefeather.8623:

Real pvp matches, every .5 seconds matter in what you’re doing, don’t waste time please, don’t rely on reacting so much, sometimes you must be aggressive or at least predict the next 5-10 seconds of the fight to not waste any time.

A lot, or too many times I stop caring about winning or loosing, because in all honesty, for me to see players not playing good and very poorly make me wish I was playing another pvp game, and it’s almost to that point.

We are talking about new people here. they don’t have to be productive all the time, It’s fine as long as they are not dying all the time.

Yes, but in S2, they must be productive if they wish to advance.

Real pvp matches, every .5 seconds matter in what you’re doing, don’t waste time please, don’t rely on reacting so much, sometimes you must be aggressive or at least predict the next 5-10 seconds of the fight to not waste any time.

A lot, or too many times I stop caring about winning or loosing, because in all honesty, for me to see players not playing good and very poorly make me wish I was playing another pvp game, and it’s almost to that point.

Wolfric.9380:

Its nice to suggest rezzing, but what if the reaper cleaves on the downed? I had such fights like 2:2 where my partner did go down and i won´t survive the rezz when my invul is on CD and even then rezz propably won´t compensate damage from two ….
Last time i made the desicion trying to bring down the oponent thats also near death and then savestomp …. Did´t work. But i will try more rezzing if that´s promising. I just don´t play a bunker that can facetank long.

If you cant’res safely then don’t good point, but if you’re not doing anything (ie DPS down/res/bunk) please escape out.

Gotejjeken.1267:

So by not playing glass, you expected glass damage?

Think I found your problem.

^ Exactly…

A decap take’s 2 seconds… I cap if no there’s only 1v1, but if 2 roll up im out, and that still buy’s time for the team.

Omnitek.3876:

Littlefeather.8623:

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

Zerker rangers highly doubt they are that awesome and i got bored of bunker/condi so im using the build posted for tpvp.
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and i play usally on 5 bouts all different maps so i don’t want to be a zerker burden if the team gets split up by misplay or deaths.

> Zerker Ranger (6/6/0/1/0)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRnEqQrg2yCGsAXLGYPoWHAFwZz+DGhQw1WcxDlIB-TphBwAAOEAQuAAO3fQxDAIzRAYcZAA

2232 Power
57% Crit Chance
206% Crit Damage
32% Damage mod
40% Damage for Pet with Sic’em
70% Movement speed for Pet with Sic’em and trait.

near 13k crits with Rapid Fire, 2-3k ish Auto attacks.

Barrage mobs (3 seconds), only the one that knocks you down is left kite / auto kill him (4-6 seconds), Necro is left to die now. (5-10 seconds) Average kill time no more than 20 seconds.

Not to mention Jaguar and Bird DPS Pets, but those are just added bonus.

But this is if you kite right and play your cards right, as zerker I dip out with GS (Chill/Endurance/4 Sec block/Leap)once I see some one else coming, but 1v1 just about most will go down.

Until the necro dodges, fears, chills, cripples, knockdown etc you. But most just stand there in the red barrage and take it right?

> http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Reflexes > Kite, M/M is a lot easier than other Necro’s, and no no player will stand in barrage if they can help it, but AI will, and that’s the secret when fighting M/M, or weakness rather.

Dirame.8521:

Littlefeather.8623:

Merciful Intervention ? I’ve never used that, but wouldn’t there have to be party members near you to use that ? If you’re talking about group fights it’s all spam, I’m talking about 1v1 though, and Merciful Intervention would’t save you in that scenario. So no, you would go down 1v1.

Merciful Intervention Works in 1v1. It works even better in team fights (heals for every ally in the PBAoE). It won’t move me away from you but it’s like me having a second shelter when combined with Monk’s Focus.

I’ve been playing condi guard since before the April update mate. So I know what I’m talking about.

So you played a kitten condi guard before the major update? Prior to that update I played meditation PVT with fighter runes, I didn’t loose 1v1 with that one either. But for fun I wanted to try condi guard and made my own build which maximized burn and power with blocks galore to make them kill their self. Prior to the update burn guard was kind of taboo even to me, now It kills fast though no lie.

Dirame.8521:

Littlefeather.8623:

Dirame.8521:

Littlefeather.8623:

Aza.2105:

Charak.9761:

you’re actually suppose to run medi with a burning build atm

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArf8dlsApZoVDxcI8DNR8QYd37WVBXP/nD-TJRGwAAOJAj2fIxTAgZZAA

amplified wrath is in the wrong trait line irregardless, zeal buffs symbols thru minor so you end up wasting those.

No you don’t. I don’t run meditations with my burning build. And its fine. 6/6/2 for me.

^

Exactly, most people are not confident enough to try glass, but with guardian and the right weapon setup it’s not all that glass to be honest.

Might on Block minor trait in Valor makes it so that you can put points into survivability and not lose out on damage. And in some cases you would surpass the damage that a pure Radiance specced condi guard would do.

In essence, you can go radiance but Valor is better.

You will not be able to kill fast enough, Mediation is good but if you’re trying to go condi damage why limit your condi damage by not going in Radiance ? Sure you can sustain longer but you wont do good burn damage, just make for longer fights.

Nah, that’s where you’re mistaken. I’d kill you just as fast as you’d kill me. I can match your damage, beat your damage (overtime of course) and survive at the same time.

And I only need Merciful Intervention to do that, I don’t need to go full medi.

The difference in damage between going Valor vs Radiance is so small, it just makes much more sense to go Valor because it saves you in SO MANY MORE situations.

For instance, you’d have a harder time fighting a Necro in Radiance than you would in Valor.

Then again, this is just me being a know it all. Play what you like. I would advocate that more than anything else.

Merciful Intervention ? I’ve never used that, but wouldn’t there have to be party members near you to use that ? If you’re talking about group fights it’s all spam, I’m talking about 1v1 though, and Merciful Intervention would’t save you in that scenario. So no, you would go down 1v1.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

Zerker rangers highly doubt they are that awesome and i got bored of bunker/condi so im using the build posted for tpvp.
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and i play usally on 5 bouts all different maps so i don’t want to be a zerker burden if the team gets split up by misplay or deaths.

> Zerker Ranger (6/6/0/1/0)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRnEqQrg2yCGsAXLGYPoWHAFwZz+DGhQw1WcxDlIB-TphBwAAOEAQuAAO3fQxDAIzRAYcZAA

2232 Power
57% Crit Chance
206% Crit Damage
32% Damage mod
40% Damage for Pet with Sic’em
70% Movement speed for Pet with Sic’em and trait.

near 13k crits with Rapid Fire, 2-3k ish Auto attacks.

Barrage mobs (3 seconds), only the one that knocks you down is left kite / auto kill him (4-6 seconds), Necro is left to die now. (5-10 seconds) Average kill time no more than 20 seconds.

Not to mention Jaguar and Bird DPS Pets, but those are just added bonus.

But this is if you kite right and play your cards right, as zerker I dip out with GS (Chill/Endurance/4 Sec block/Leap)once I see some one else coming, but 1v1 just about most will go down.

Since Purging flames is great against condi’s and burns them I use this with JI, it’s nice closing a gap and burning too. I use Spirit Sword because it will burn every hit for 1040 too with this build.

It’s a hard counter against majority of what I 1v1’d, even bunker players. Even if I get downed they will drop too because they will have plenty (20+ seconds) of burning still left on them, after they burned any condi cleanse I just reapply extremely easy with my utilities. Than my sword keep hitting them and burning every hit for 1040 still…So I still get the rally. This build is based soley on uptime and power of burn and easy reapplication of it within 2-3 seconds. But tbh, the attack power is OP too.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf8dlsApcoNDxKI8DNR8QZdH8CZQ1BQC8oXNDA-TJhAwAJeBAw2fYcZAAHEAA

DeceiverX.8361:

Littlefeather.8623:

Bombsaway.7198:

In PvP, we do quite well but PvP tends to respect more of the evade and melee style over range so it takes a bit of a different spec than most play.

I use Longbow and get 13k Crits with Rapid Fire…

And that’s really, really low relative to other classes.
Hell, even my P/P thief does 11k unloads which can be chained together.

You’d also just deal more damage autoattacking. RF only proves to be useful for DPS when your target is attempting to enter stealth as it’s stealth-tracking. Otherwise, it deals strictly less damage than AA’ing.

Everything else was on CD, and yes it’s not an exaggerated amount but it’s not bad either. You can do 11k at 900 range while I do 13k at 1200, I’lll be happy with that. Keeping in mind that was crit though not consistent damage at all. My point is I don’t see why rangers even say LB is kitten but it’s not really the case at least the way I play and from my experiences with it, I guess I can express that easily since ranger was not my original main.

I admit, using glass guard can be intimidating, but it’s definitely not as glass as glass thiefs if that’s whats holding any one back.

Dirame.8521:

Littlefeather.8623:

Aza.2105:

Charak.9761:

you’re actually suppose to run medi with a burning build atm

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArf8dlsApZoVDxcI8DNR8QYd37WVBXP/nD-TJRGwAAOJAj2fIxTAgZZAA

amplified wrath is in the wrong trait line irregardless, zeal buffs symbols thru minor so you end up wasting those.

No you don’t. I don’t run meditations with my burning build. And its fine. 6/6/2 for me.

^

Exactly, most people are not confident enough to try glass, but with guardian and the right weapon setup it’s not all that glass to be honest.

Might on Block minor trait in Valor makes it so that you can put points into survivability and not lose out on damage. And in some cases you would surpass the damage that a pure Radiance specced condi guard would do.

In essence, you can go radiance but Valor is better.

You will not be able to kill fast enough, Mediation is good but if you’re trying to go condi damage why limit your condi damage by not going in Radiance ? Sure you can sustain longer but you wont do good burn damage, just make for longer fights.

messiah.1908:

Littlefeather.8623:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf8dlsApcoNDxKI8DNR8QZdH8CZQ1BQC8oXNDA-TJhAwAJeBAw2fYcZAAHEAA

Yall do realize sword blocks as well as focus right? Dont need range weapon with sword and JI. In PVP I burn for 1040 with this build. No one has enough cleanse to keep it off of them for more than 3 seconds with the attack rate of sword and torch. Aegis block, Focus block, Shelter block, sword blocks… Have enough blocks and almost 18k HP, over 2.1k Armor, I kill faster than I will have to worry about it.

sword dont block it destroy so it will not proc burning while blocking

Last I used my burn guard in pvp was maybe a month ago, and it did block at that time, unless something has changed recently.

Bombsaway.7198:

In PvP, we do quite well but PvP tends to respect more of the evade and melee style over range so it takes a bit of a different spec than most play.

I use Longbow and get 13k Crits with Rapid Fire…

Aza.2105:

Charak.9761:

you’re actually suppose to run medi with a burning build atm

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArf8dlsApZoVDxcI8DNR8QYd37WVBXP/nD-TJRGwAAOJAj2fIxTAgZZAA

amplified wrath is in the wrong trait line irregardless, zeal buffs symbols thru minor so you end up wasting those.

No you don’t. I don’t run meditations with my burning build. And its fine. 6/6/2 for me.

^

Exactly, most people are not confident enough to try glass, but with guardian and the right weapon setup it’s not all that glass to be honest.

I don’t have an issue standing at 20 units away from a target and pew pewing personally, But I do have an issue where apparently our DPS lacks with Longbow. Some of us want to play a class as narrow and focused build as we can, that’s why we have multiple classes I would think. Why make multiple toons being Jack of all Trades and master of none, when I want to have multiple toons being master in at least one or two.

I don’t think one can rally off of siege.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf8dlsApcoNDxKI8DNR8QZdH8CZQ1BQC8oXNDA-TJhAwAJeBAw2fYcZAAHEAA

Yall do realize sword blocks as well as focus right? Dont need range weapon with sword and JI. In PVP I burn for 1040 with this build. No one has enough cleanse to keep it off of them for more than 3 seconds with the attack rate of sword and torch. Aegis block, Focus block, Shelter block, sword blocks… Have enough blocks and almost 18k HP, over 2.1k Armor, I kill faster than I will have to worry about it.

Blood lust and;

Air for PvP

Fire for WvW

Not sure, I min/max what I feel is important in my builds, like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR7dl0ApcoVDxbI8DNR8QVZAkAYeiRx1/QQkDA-TVSBABOqEcjDCQlq/EmyvFeAAWt/gGHBAAuAA5pbIAACwNvZ2sNDO6RP6RP6R7m38m38m3sUAXMGA-w

On Med guard, or tanky guard I don’t think crit or condi is important. It’s style is in your face non stop aggressive style. Works for me in PvP, and roaming 1v1. I love fighting other melee on this build though as it is beast at face tanking.

Power Meditation Guardians.

awge.3852:

I have personally been holding off making a 100% DPS ranger due to the huge squishy factor, even though I do keep 2000 ~2200 on the attack, I trade some crit chance to keep toughness around 2600~3000, running with the backline support means that no one is supporting you, so I keep an eye out for thieves and the like and maul them to death with my tankier setup. Otherwise I’d be just another sheep for the wolves, you can only defend so much from thieves and random ranged damage in WvW by being in the back line, after all a high damage dead ranger is worse than one that can deal moderate->high damage and stay alive longer in my book.

Yes this is very true, I avoid even partying up in WvW because I personally feel that I shouldnt need boons and stability etc, a good backline avoids getting touched before DPSing. That should always take priority, ofcourse you’ll get ganked sometimes but who does’nt. It’s constantly moving, straffing, always being aware of your surroundings, paying attention to not only the zerg infront of you that you’re hitting but both sides and behind you even some times, all the while making sure your pet is not engaging, It’s not easy at all, trying not to stick out like a sore thumb. but yes you are correct you ca have all the DPS in the world but if you’re dead you’re useless for DPS. I do it more for fun than anything though tbh, I enjoy playing DPS now because 1.5 years of WvW frontline guard is too boring and to slow to kill anything on my own.

Sorry for the abrupt reply.

My playstyle is catered to focusing on the melee aspect of PVP’ing. I loved P/P Thief just the fact of being ranged has advantages. The only reason I tried Ranger is more range and something different. In PVP you’re limited to small areas of fighting and coming from melee background I am used to it. My point is I don’t get stressed when the target is closing the gap on me, I use my utilities or CC’s to keep kiting around. There are some smart players who cleanse cripple or slow or re close gap faster than you anticipate but most are not. I’m very comfortable with range or in melee range of fighting, that’s why It’s important to use GS (with Hydromancy and Energy on swap). Provided I am still getting fluent with the build, but from my limited expereince (3 weeks) of zerker LB in PVP at 50+ levels and roaming in WvW; I really do think it’s fun and effective, so much that I crafted my first ascended for it, first ascended/legendary piece for any of my characters since headstart.

I also pay attention to my pet’s HP, I heal for it when it’s getting low and swap it before it dies so I can keep the 7% extra damage from runes. My pets, gear, traits and skills are exclusively made to kill as fast as I possibly can, completely disregarding any defense mechanics, with the exception of my GS and sigils on it, which is enough more so than not surprisingly.

Sigmoid.7082:

I would like to dual and see you dual others as by my calculations you would die in under 5seconds of less as long as someone manages to get within range.
Also how do you yourself deal with cripple or chill since it reduces the range on swoop to 363 range

Like I said, I’m not scared to loose so If I die in less than 5 seconds it’s ok, the world is’nt go to end, and if I kill some one in 5 seconds again, it’s ok.

Personally I’ve PVP’d as Bunker Guardian, Mediation Guardian, Burn build Guardian, and even shout Guardian, D/D Thief, P/P Thief, Condi Engi, Zerk rifle Warrior, 3 Champ titles, and rank 54. I personally feel very confident and competent in my PVP abilities, moreso than the average bear I guess. A lot of you ranger mains seem to be some what miserable with trying to use LB, coming from multiple classes; I think it’s fun, and effective. But If you’re challenging me, well I won’t say no, if you’re just being a negative nancy just to be one, than continue to wear those blinders my friend, it doesn’t bother me.

In other words, you’re entitled to your own opinion and it has no weight on my own.

This would cause Power based WvW’ers and PvP’ers to quit the game…seriously lol

Kibazuka.1390:

Dont try to avoid berserker gear. It not only makes you more efficient but being squishy will also Force/train you to become a better player

^ Exactly, don’t be scared to loose, using zerk gear will force you to learn how to be a better player.

I don’t start worrying till my HP is about 30% though, If so I can escape with GS, switch back to LB and either push them back again and kite more (rinse and repeat) or stealth and continue to run if it’s 2 v1. I never open up with volley though, they expect that, you should always open up with a few auto attacks.

Sigmoid.7082:

@Littlefeathet

In solo roam how do you deal with people who gap close, evade, stealth? Because with that armour I can only see you being killed by anything that gets close and breathes on you.
Do you rely on the range to pew pew people down before they get to you? Since I can see from my math you will hit 3 to 5k auto attacks depending on your targets armour.

Yea I hit hard, most roamers are glass thiefs which only take about 3-6 seconds to kill. I auto attack them a couple times to get them to about 80-75% HP, than pop Sic’em, and Signet of Hunt and I use Jaguar for the extra pet crit in stealth. I auto attack till stealth debuff wears off then I volley to follow them in stealth, their usually down at that time, I just have to wait till they get revealed to stomp them. Sometimes they get close and I push them off though. With warriors I just pew pew with the same rotation, most warriors usually run though, the ones who don’t run away I have to work hard to kite, but always have a back up plan. My GS chills them and give’s me half endurance so I can either escape out with it or try to melee with them hoping they don’t know about my GS auto attack evasion face tanking. Direct hits you evade but indirect (AoE) you can not. I Don’t always win 100%, but it’s pretty bad kitten 1v1 still. Sic’em with Feline or Bird pets are they key though honestly, I just play turret pew pew and kite around.

Escaping out with GS not only means a leap but also about 5~ second block from range while moving.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRnEqQrg2yCGsAXLGYPoWHAFwZz+DGhQw1WcxSHVB-TlCEwAE3fAyRQYrSQmK/McBDYp+TbdAd00A4BB84QAEA4A43hDA+d4fH+3hLFwoCjA-w

Here’s what I back line zerg’s with, and roam with.

If a D/D thief tries to face tank you and you have GS up you will not even get touched once with your auto attack.

I like pie and celery.

Rouven.7409:

Littlefeather.8623:

CoE Rifle, a little grind but very sexy.

Would the mystic rifle have been too much blue? But yes, both are nice rifles.

My Warrior is red dyed

Why not just ask a couple people to watch the body for a little while, till he/she spawns out. All it takes is some AoE.

^ Must be a mesmer…lol

Beer pong night.

Did not know that…

CoE Rifle, a little grind but very sexy.

I have solo roamed on meditation guard, burn guard, condi engi, confusion teef, zerk p/p teef, and zerk rifle warrior. I love roaming zerk LB/GS ranger too; pew pew with LB, escape with GS, sic’em, lightning reflex, signet of hun. With only foods, I have about 2700~ Power, 72% crit chance, and I think 230% crit power. IDK, but my auto attack is like 3k from range. Sigil of Bloodlust and Fire on LB, Sigil of Energy and Hydromancy on GS. I pew pew gain stacks and crit for fire. Usually It’s pew pew pop sicem and signet of hunt for OP jaguar DPS especially if in stealth, If they get close I push out (barrage if teef) and pew pew some more; if they get close again I switch to GS, chill them for 2 sec, have 3 dodge rolls and a leap.

urdriel.8496:

Littlefeather.8623:

gawker.8340:

Littlefeather.8623:

I play LB Ranger, and I’m full zerk, the only one’s I have issues with are PVT, the zerk ones die. I pew pew, they get close, I barrage and push back and pew pew some more and they die.

Yea, i’m sure your movement isn’t inherently predictable. I’m almost certain you are made of sturdy stuff that won’t falter at high pressure. Also, you forgot to tell about the glory of your animal companion. The one that clawed and mauled and pursued your victims to the end of the horizon.

Unless I’m being double teamed I usually don’t have anything to worry about, and the trick is; I don’t care about dying. I can usually avoid getting spiked by good timing and they dps while I’m down anyway.

videos??

Who needs videos? being confident and at least decent in 1v1 situations will allow you to 1v1, even as a LB/GS zerk. Yes my pet dishes out 800-1200 per hit, my LB dishes out 1200-3000 per arrow. I built my ranger for maximizing DPS, I’m confident enough in my personal ability to 1v1 as a burn or meditation guardian, rifle warrior, P/P teef, and some times condi engi. I’m a min/max mmo player, I don’t feel the need to have balance in most of my builds as a crutch, that’s just me though. I know not every one likes 1v1 situations, but personally I build for them and love them.

gawker.8340:

Littlefeather.8623:

I play LB Ranger, and I’m full zerk, the only one’s I have issues with are PVT, the zerk ones die. I pew pew, they get close, I barrage and push back and pew pew some more and they die.

Yea, i’m sure your movement isn’t inherently predictable. I’m almost certain you are made of sturdy stuff that won’t falter at high pressure. Also, you forgot to tell about the glory of your animal companion. The one that clawed and mauled and pursued your victims to the end of the horizon.

Unless I’m being double teamed I usually don’t have anything to worry about, and the trick is; I don’t care about dying. I can usually avoid getting spiked by good timing and they dps while I’m down anyway.

In a zerg I just back line barrage and range attacks, it’s fun, and again you have to know when to back off and watch your flank.