Guild Wars 2

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LOL< LOVE the video !!!

I have a rifle warrior too and it is SO MUCH FUN

Some people act like dodging and rolling out of a CC is completly manageable, but a lot of CC may have a cast time, that does not mean the casting is forecasted or has a significant animation to it. Lets be realistic here, sure I can bring Stand your ground, and Hallowed Ground, but that leaves me with no Save yourself, or any other utility I prefer for my build. Sure I can have all the stability I want, but thats putting all my eggs in one basket. I would need to sacrifice something to temporarily mitigate, what seems to be almost spammable by other classes.

Achilles.2197:

Littlefeather.8623:

butch.8136:

I’d love to see deathmatch implemented. I’d love to see it just because of the QQ on the forums a bit after the implementation.

Deathmatch, even more with gw2’s combat system, would get stale very soon.

Stale? You mean actual PvP, as in who can beat who 1v1? by all means sir, it would be the exact opposite.

Its fun to see small man teams in WvW roaming, and fun to play against 2-3 well coordinated players who compliment eachother at what they do, without being independant.

But that sir is not real PvP. Any one who can not rely soley on theirself is basically, not a skills PvPer’. My build is 1v1, so I roam solo sometimes in WvW or TPvP. I know some people are not built that way, and some can not play that way. But real PvP is about being able to get the W in a 1v1 without the help of your team mates. This is what defines real PvP’ers.

Current system is not focused on real PvP, current system tailors to people who cant 1v1, its kind of dummed down to be quet honest.

Please direct me to a successful game where it’s PvP is 1v1 oriented. Starcraft/LoL/DotA/GW1/WoW… they are all team based. For a reason. Are you saying those people are not true PvP’ers because they play with teams..?

Are you saying real PvP is relying on other people to help you kill other people? Or are you saying you cant kill one other person by yourself? Or are you comparing other games to this one to change the impact of my statement?

All im saying is, coming from a MMO gaming experience which spans for 11 years now and Arcade/Console fighting gaming experience of about 6 years. Why cant there be a match where I can fight some one by theirself by myself? That is what I consider real PvP.

Signed. 15 characters

butch.8136:

I’d love to see deathmatch implemented. I’d love to see it just because of the QQ on the forums a bit after the implementation.

Deathmatch, even more with gw2’s combat system, would get stale very soon.

Stale? You mean actual PvP, as in who can beat who 1v1? by all means sir, it would be the exact opposite.

Its fun to see small man teams in WvW roaming, and fun to play against 2-3 well coordinated players who compliment eachother at what they do, without being independant.

But that sir is not real PvP. Any one who can not rely soley on theirself is basically, not a skills PvPer’. My build is 1v1, so I roam solo sometimes in WvW or TPvP. I know some people are not built that way, and some can not play that way. But real PvP is about being able to get the W in a 1v1 without the help of your team mates. This is what defines real PvP’ers.

Current system is not focused on real PvP, current system tailors to people who cant 1v1, its kind of dummed down to be quet honest.

If my build worked for all the other maps but not this one, well what does that say about the map? Adapt?, adapt to one map?, then change to my original build for the other maps? Kick rocks with that!

Im sure I can make up some troll CC build and win, but I wouldnt like to win that way, I would like to win the way myself and the rest of us have been in this thing.

Adapt?, or yall mean make a troll CC build specifically for this map…

Exactly, why cant we have a ladder with actual skilled PvP players instead of player who are good at capping points? Dont get me wrong it takes a little strategy to win in TPvP, but its not real PvP skill.

Every one mentions stability, but if you bring something up, bring up the CD/Uptime on it too.

It last 5 seconds people…with a 24 Second CD if your traited into shouts…

This map is not even about PvP, its about avoiding getting knocked down a hole…

Every one mentions stability, but if you bring something up, bring up the CD/Uptime on it too.

It last 5 seconds people…with a 24 Second CD if your traited into shouts…

This map is not even about PvP, its about avoiding getting knocked down a hole…

^ This guy

Trollmacht.4105:

yea is know its not invul just block but pls dont tell me ur dying from condition damage on a guardian

Not every guard is built the exact same…Please dont tell me you have 3.8k Atk, 3.5k Armor, 7xx Healing, gain might when you block/auto attack with a GS, apply longer vulnerability with immobolize, can DPS in your face with GS or chase down a kiter with Scepter/Focus. Giving yourself stability and 8 other boons on Shout CD while taking 10% less damage…as well as not taking condition damage…

KStudios.2850:

Gorefiend.9675:

MomentofWeakness.1246:

I should be thanking you and Ehmry for all the bags haha, since we didn’t wipe once after the fight @ North East Gate of Bay (only had 25 people on me @ that point you guys had 40+ each zerg). We should really do that again tonight it was fun doing the open field fighting, I will see what I can rally up, you guys (DB, and Ehmry) should as well. Im not sure who commanded for DB but as far as Ehmry goes, Rekz it was very nice to fight you open field since I have heard a lot about your guild. I saw some VS guild in Ehmry also, bring them to your BL you two should combine and fight us! It wont be til later tonight though obviously.

I realize this may be kind of hard for a t1.5 zergling such as yourself to comprehend but we do not enjoy running in lag inducing group sizes. As much fun as running around only being able to spam 1 is, just not our thing.

I hate zerging/karma training… It makes me lag horribly and requires no personal skill or large-scale intelligence on my part. No offense to those who do like the “cruise control” thing I guess. I know it’s like the bread and butter of WvW and all… but if you see me I’ll be alone of typically with a group of three or less.

Why three or less? Why not Solo? lol

I do both, ofcourse two seperate builds/traits/gear.

Sometimes I roam solo or with a few other PvP’ers in my guild with my TPvP build, but sometimes I put on my WvW build and make our guild zerg stronger with heals, stability, CC, etc.

Its fun being able to switch back n forth, only costs 3 silver ;p

Ethic.1569:

Ethic.1569:

WPvP’s 2nd Open World Tournament

What:

• 10 members from each server (TC, DB & EBay) compete in WvW 1v1 Duels using (WPvP House rules) to claim top dog bragging rights and humble prizes.
  • (Not SPvP)

How:

• Roster Signup @ Open World PvP
  • Roster closes on Tuesday (or when full). Posted soon after.

When:

• No set time. Competitors have until the end of match-up week to meetup with each other.
  • Duelists duel each duelist on opposing teams.

Update:

Current Registrations

Sign me up if not too late.

The only change it has seen is:

Headstart: Same time, Same affect, if you moved you canceled it.

Recently: Now you can move (but not roll), same time, same affect.

Love the small fights in WvW, love picking off reinforcements too ;p

Well GN, the offers still there though, Hey Drp, tell your All Star he can sleep on it. If he isn’t too scared to duel me 1v1, no best of anything, just straight up win or loose.

Benjamin.6235:

Littlefeather.8623:

A PvP’er shouldn’t need foods or any other “help” to PvP…A real PvP’er should only rely on his/her build and skills.

No variables…just build and skill.

Food is part of a build. Next you’re gonna ask someone to duel you without any points in their traits.

Are you saying you cant kill a Moa bird without food buffs?…Next your going to say you need 25 stacks of whatever to solo a supply camp?..

Really?…I mean you honestly can not fight any one without food buffs?…

Kyrime.6958:

you should enforce the following rules also:

- no traits
- same class
- same race
- same weaponsets
- same stat setups

after all, a real pvper should rely only on his skills, build is just another “help” to pvp yanno

Now I guess, that’s a no?

being as your all star cant do a straight up win or loss duel?…

Is there no one in Maguuma who will 1v1 anyone win or loose anymore?

kfarb.6732:

I remember when Littlefeather was proud of RE. Not even in his sig anymore

I am, Im just preparing to rage on the forums or in game again at people, so I choose to take it off now.

Benjamin.6235:

No foods? That’s a bizarre definition. No wonder you aren’t finding any "1v1"s.

A PvP’er shouldn’t need foods or any other “help” to PvP…A real PvP’er should only rely on his/her build and skills.

No variables…just build and skill.

Ethic.1569:

Littlefeather.8623:

@Kyrime,

I am, but if he/she wants to Best of Five 1v1 me, all that means is letting him/her have time to learn my moves. And my answer to that is no, I don’t respect that, I can however respect a 1v1, all or nothing win or loss, no odds, no do over’s or re-takes, or “that didn’t count”. No, 1v1, no foods, no stacks, no friendly in boon AoE radius either.

That’s my definition of 1v1 PvP.

That sounds more like a one trick pony than excellence in class.

Hey you wanna see how much of a trick pony my guardian is?

saiyr.3071:

Littlefeather.8623:

@Kyrime,

I am, but if he/she wants to Best of Five 1v1 me, all that means is letting him/her have time to learn my moves. And my answer to that is no, I don’t respect that, I can however respect a 1v1, all or nothing win or loss, no odds, no do over’s or re-takes, or “that didn’t count”. No, 1v1, no foods, no stacks, no friendly in boon AoE radius either.

That’s my definition of 1v1 PvP.

So you don’t like learning?

I love learning, but I don’t do odds, give me one shot, that’s all I need…I don’t need best of whatever lol

ParaldaWind.4523:

Littlefeather.8623:

@Krime,

Why best of five? what are we playing odds now?

Im a straight up all or nothing kinda guy…

Don’t mess with this guy, he’s undefeated in melee combat, especially against PYRO guardians.

That mean nothing to me…

I love WvW, but I hate the fact that I don’t run across any one will 1v1…solo…

@Kyrime,

I am, but if he/she wants to Best of Five 1v1 me, all that means is letting him/her have time to learn my moves. And my answer to that is no, I don’t respect that, I can however respect a 1v1, all or nothing win or loss, no odds, no do over’s or re-takes, or “that didn’t count”. No…, 1v1, no foods, no stacks, no friendly in boon AoE radius either.

That’s my definition of 1v1 PvP.

@Krime,

Why best of five? what are we playing odds now?

Im a straight up all or nothing kinda guy…

I would ask Drpy but apparently they don’t have any one who would 1v1 me…

Hey TPvP (Spelling?) On Maguuma, with a guild tag like that I would think that yall should be able to 1v1. But in all fairness PvP in GW2 is not real PvP anyway, the whole capping point system is not PvP. But anyway, instead of taking on 3 of yall by myself, I would love to 1v1 any of yall, if ofcourse yall actually do TPvP, as I do so myself ;p

yea, some games offer mitigation to everything.

the last game i played cirt relied on lvl difference, armor difference, your precision vs their precision, etc.

im sure theres a sprinkle of that in this game but they dont want us to know anything lol. testing could bring some light on this though, altough it would be so time consuming to account for so many variables its crazy.

Thats a lot of spamming #1 on your keyboard.

What your PvP Rank btw?

If Guardians Spec for only mitigating then they sacrifice the very few critical utility slots we have. We will be so kitten if we spec to focus on removing conditions.

Where as the trade off for the necro is what? Nothing…

Sure a guardian can have an overall build that does good at everything, but up against me, Im great at one thing, that overall guardian wont stand a chance.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Matty.1953:

ensoriki.5789:

Condition removal.

There really isn’t enough condi removal now though… I went on a necro (never played it before, may I add) and 1v1ed an experienced bunker guardian and he simply didn’t have the removal to survive more than 30s. That really isn’t acceptable imo.

Bunker guards aren’t 1v1ers. They shine better with team support (all of those shouts + virtues going to waste).

I specialize in Power/Toughness, 3.5k Armor, 3.8k Attack

I consider myself to be pretty Bunker, I use GS/Hammer

I love 1v1

Ninya.3942:

I just want some cookies and some NHL finals tonight

NHL?, thats like saying people still watch Nascar or Cricket. lol ;p

Kingzook.1620:

Littlefeather, you need to calm down, you guys are winning by a lot.

Relax, go outside and enjoy the summer. You guys shouldn’t feel stressful, there are plenty of big guilds on TC. Run some PvE or a fractal.

If you feel that you have to “represent” you guild by calling everyone out and telling people that they are the worst, then it is time you remember that this is a game, not a job or some hated event.

Be merry!

Reading comprehension…

I was very specific about DH/KN, and the differences between stable servers and not stable servers, IE: TC

If you feel the need to troll us in our open field fighting capabilities on the forum, please do so in game as well. We WvW for it, we welcome it. Dont mention other guilds on other server or whatever, your in FA. Instead of Forum fights, whisper Ethersin, than we’ll post the video on this thread afterwards.

Niim.9260:

Littlefeather.8623:

Niim.9260:

Littlefeather.8623:

You may be takling about another night, RE doesnt loose against evenly manned fights, atleast not open feild fights. Not even SoR would fight us without Arrow Carts in the open field. Not trying to sound kitteny, but I havent seen a FA Zerg during primetime with merely 35 people in it. RE wipes, FA has wiped us but I have yet to see a WvW guild that can wipe RE as a guild with even numbers.

RE is a mediocre zerg guild. Nothing special or unique and certainly not in the top 10 that I have fought against. If you were half as good as you think you are you wouldn’t be riding the coat-tails of an already successful server now would you.

Oh another “bandwagon” post?
<removed boring life story>
So were not riding on any coat tails here my freind, we are just glad to not be depended on so much like we have in the past. Glad to have a stable server.

I never said anything at all about bandwagon. A guild that is good, likes challenges, doesn’t transfer to well established servers. A mediocre guild that wants to be carried does.

Not sure if you have always been on FA or not, but being on a server where your guild is the only large WvW focused guild, is not a challenge, it feels so stressful and demanding, much more than what you experience with stable servers.

We felt this two times, both times from T8 to T2. You must have had the priveledge of never feeling that, of never feeling directly responsible for putting in 12-18 hour days for your server. Of never recieving the comment, “Your in RE, arent you supposed to be in WvW?”

We envy you, and people like you who have never been through those situations. Thats why we are here.

Niim.9260:

Littlefeather.8623:

You may be takling about another night, RE doesnt loose against evenly manned fights, atleast not open feild fights. Not even SoR would fight us without Arrow Carts in the open field. Not trying to sound kitteny, but I havent seen a FA Zerg during primetime with merely 35 people in it. RE wipes, FA has wiped us but I have yet to see a WvW guild that can wipe RE as a guild with even numbers.

RE is a mediocre zerg guild. Nothing special or unique and certainly not in the top 10 that I have fought against. If you were half as good as you think you are you wouldn’t be riding the coat-tails of an already successful server now would you.

Oh another “bandwagon” post?

I never wanted to leave Darkhaven, but we did due to being the last large WvW guild left after all else did. We had no support from other large WvW guilds at all. Some of us didnt think we had to leave KN either, but again due to mass large exodus’ it almost felt the same, just not to the degree we felt it on DH from T8 to T2 and back again, then with KN as well. So were not riding on any coat tails here my freind, we are just glad to not be depended on so much like we have in the past. Glad to have a stable server.

Kingzook.1620:

Hickeroar.9734:

RET did have a pretty big group on reset, and that was a lot of fun. They wiped our ~25 EP group a few times, but they weren’t big enough to deal with CERN and EP when we fought together.

I think this was Saturday night and the RET zerg was big, but i think we were only around 25 also. Both of your zergs were around the same size as us and combined you had us outnumbered greatly. It kinda reduced us to protecting what we had and limited the open field fights, not really my cup of tea but it had to be done or we would lose everything.

Most nights it seems end this way for this week.

Littlefeather.8623:

You may be takling about another night, RE doesnt loose against evenly manned fights, atleast not open feild fights. Not even SoR would fight us without Arrow Carts in the open field. Not trying to sound kitteny, but I havent seen a FA Zerg during primetime with merely 35 people in it. RE wipes, FA has wiped us but I have yet to see a WvW guild that can wipe RE as a guild with even numbers. To back it up have any FA guild whisper Ethersin for a friendly GvG with even numbers.

GvG’ing is different from open field fights. RE (on DB, back when they were new to DB) were the best at GvG’s but they would get wiped them in open field almost everytime. Open field has the element of surprise and class composition. GvG’s do not always measure your guilds ability to open field fight.

If you really think you are the best, go fight AGG, BT, or RG. Fraps it and show me then ill say you are the best.

I never stated “best” in my post, never used the word at all. We know were are not the best, but we also know were not the worst, and always willing to take on challenges to become better.

etrigan.4213:

Littlefeather.8623:

RE wouldn’t doesn’t operate like that. We have been a large WvW guild since head start from Darkhaven. We are a proud WvW Focused guild who will not tolerate something like that.

Unlike RE’s new TS buddy full blooded.

But anyways, even people on the side with more PPT don’t even look at the PPT, a lot of us are here for the open field battles. And even though our 40-50 man zerg wiped against a 70-80 man zerg FA a couple times in EB, we had chances to win, even if outnumbered like that we’ve done it before. But I think the militia will know more of what to expect next time with maneuvering, sticking together and whatnot. GJ to all, have fun.

That was a 35man FA zerg. Just an fyi.

You may be takling about another night, RE doesnt loose against evenly manned fights, atleast not open feild fights. Not even SoR would fight us without Arrow Carts in the open field. Not trying to sound kitteny, but I havent seen a FA Zerg during primetime with merely 35 people in it. RE wipes, FA has wiped us but I have yet to see a WvW guild that can wipe RE as a guild with even numbers. To back it up have any FA guild whisper Ethersin for a friendly GvG with even numbers.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

@Pecar I’m just wondering how did You get shelter interrupted while that skill is blocking EVERY atack while casting

It does get interupted rarely, I think its due to the timing of when its actually casted and if you get a CC on you.

RE wouldn’t doesn’t operate like that. We have been a large WvW guild since head start from Darkhaven. We are a proud WvW Focused guild who will not tolerate something like that.

Unlike RE’s new TS buddy full blooded.

But anyways, even people on the side with more PPT don’t even look at the PPT, a lot of us are here for the open field battles. And even though our 40-50 man zerg wiped against a 70-80 man zerg FA a couple times in EB, we had chances to win, even if outnumbered like that we’ve done it before. But I think the militia will know more of what to expect next time with maneuvering, sticking together and whatnot. GJ to all, have fun.

Kwll.1468:

I can’t wait to try a troll spirit weapons spec with scepter and greatsword. It will smoke people 1v1.

You actually use Scepter?

IMO, Guardians who cant face tank should have rolled a Warrior or Ranger…

You ever fought a real GS Guardian (3.9k Attack/3.5 Armor) toe to toe before? Yea?, I bet thats why you would use Scepter I guess….

Hickeroar.9734:

Littlefeather.8623:

Hickeroar.9734:

Littlefeather.8623:

Orb of Wrath: Increased the projectile speed of this skill by 30%.
Chains of Light: This ability now deals a small amount of damage.

I want to know what Dev really likes the Scepter? I mean cmon who really uses it?

It’s a great PvE weapon. It’s absolutely invaluable in high level fractals.

It’s also the only ranged weapon guardians have. :-/ Very glad they added the speed increase. It really needed that.

How many End Game (WvW) guardians do you know think this is a viable weapon?…

Oh, none. It’s worthless in WvW. :P Totally agreed on that point.

I know, when will the devs pull their sandwiches out of the soup and realize Guardians need a real range weapon…

Hickeroar.9734:

Littlefeather.8623:

Orb of Wrath: Increased the projectile speed of this skill by 30%.
Chains of Light: This ability now deals a small amount of damage.

I want to know what Dev really likes the Scepter? I mean cmon who really uses it?

It’s a great PvE weapon. It’s absolutely invaluable in high level fractals.

It’s also the only ranged weapon guardians have. :-/ Very glad they added the speed increase. It really needed that.

How many End Game (WvW) guardians do you know think this is a viable weapon?…

Orb of Wrath: Increased the projectile speed of this skill by 30%.
Chains of Light: This ability now deals a small amount of damage.

I want to know what Dev really likes the Scepter? I mean cmon who really uses it?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Littlefeather.8623:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Who the hell thought it was smart to give the two most OP classes in WvW (thieves are only OP due to how stealth is currently set up) a new way of being OP? Seriously, I would have given this to Engineers, Necros, Warriors, and Rangers, the 4 classes who could use a boost in WvW.

You forgot about Guardians too…

To be honest, Guardians are pretty fine right now. At least from what I can tell.

And I now have seen the leaked updates found here: http://pastebin.com/2rrFg9pS

I retract my statement, this won’t be so bad. Thieves can only do it with skale venom (it replaces weakness), Mesmers can only do it with Scepter #2, and Necros can only do it with DS#5. So I’m now fine with this.

Guardians are not fine right now, I hate being kited down and not being able to do anything about it, Retalition is nice but doesnt last long at all.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Who the hell thought it was smart to give the two most OP classes in WvW (thieves are only OP due to how stealth is currently set up) a new way of being OP? Seriously, I would have given this to Engineers, Necros, Warriors, and Rangers, the 4 classes who could use a boost in WvW.

You forgot about Guardians too…

style.6173:

Hickeroar.9734:

Toxic.4320:

uneditedbrute.8136:

Toxic.4320:

To TC: I wish y’all nothing but the best. I made some really good friends over there but I would ask that y’all maintain the 10 commandments, ok? It made my heart hurt a little to see y’all spawn camp us.

your tears taste amazing.

snip

‘your tears taste amazing’ This is the kind of crap that is unneeded and uncalled for.
That wasn’t a QQ. It was a fact.. TC is a server that I really admire and learned a LOT from. To see them do something that they, themselves, hated? Sucked.

You’re dropping a pretty big blanket over top of all of TC there…

Agreed. What everyone needs to understand is that any server is a bunch of people with different opinions. Does TC look to spawn camp? As a server no, but there are some who do it periodically. Typically these are newer guilds or random pugs.

It’s like when the trolls come on here for any server. Do they speak for their server? No. It’s best to just ignore them.

Personally, I think the fights have been pretty respectful this week. I remember a few days ago when RE and CERN were zerg fighting with SoS in the space between garrison and bay. Both TC and SoS could have been off capping other towers/camps, but were just having fun open field fighting. To me, those types of experiences are what makes the game fun. The scoreboard isn’t that important.

Open field fighting has evolved so much for RE with our time aside WM. RE doesnt play WvW for just the PPT anymore, with us its about the open fields battles moreso now. We have certain builds to support our team. Each class has its own role, necro’s, mesmer’s, guardian’s, etc. We do this for the benefit of the group, my SPvP build is completly different form my WvW build, I SPvP for solo skills, and I WvW for my guild.

Because almost everynight when we do WvW or guild events or instances with eachother, and we have kareokee/music going on in the background it feels like family. And a team like that which can be successful in the open field fights with precision movements and drills is the very reason I have been in RE since headstart. Ethersin is a people person, we have WvW procedures but it is a very nice PvX Environment. We dont have cookies but we do have chicks ! lol

I can speak for both sides of the game as a Rank 22 (Working on Wolf)TPvP’er, and a large organized WvW guild.

In TPvP, everything comes into play, timing of skills/CD’s, dodging at the exact second you need to, and even knowing when or when not to heal.

In WvW, the zerg play tends to favor auto attacking through a zerg for the most part. Ofcourse theres got to be stability/CC/Heals. Even if the guilds want to get fancy they can break off into two forces to flank with. Its more group strategic based, over actual player individual skill.

BUT, if 60 TPvP’ers wanted to learn zerg WvW, and after a good amount of time, that guild would wipe any top rated/ranked WvW guild in the game, that I would bet on.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Littlefeather.8623:

kfarb.6732:

I don’t really understand the question.

This is not the Maguuma I remember back in Oct/Nov last year and even through Jan. Back when Maguuma had monthly Boot Camps and a friendly team work oriented communit, just seems different now.

Monthly? We had one bootcamp, I organized it. It did alright.

Don’t claim you have ever known Maguuma if you think we haven’t always been trolls and forum warriors. It’s our pedigree.

Well the tone of your forum warriors had a different tune back then I guess. While DH was suffering and RE was the last ones left, we had complained so much about the PUG’s, I remember so many times Maguuma asking us to move there because the community was so good and cooperative. But thats in the past, whos going to change their IGN to Grumpy Cat?

Grumpy cat eats pickles and regurgitates on face.