Guild Wars 2

I roam as zerk LB ranger and escape with GS.

i like potato
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Nothing wrong with being squishy, as long as you build to escape.

I play LB Ranger, and I’m full zerk, the only one’s I have issues with are PVT, the zerk ones die. I pew pew, they get close, I barrage and push back and pew pew some more and they die.

Off topic, but I love it when others attack me while I block, say hello to 1055 burn tick

There are three parts to WvW;

1. Zerg, where you “must” be traited and geared and even play a certain way inline with your guild.

2. Small group, this is where you will have some personalization with your build, not focusing on group support but handy if you have it.

3. Solo roamer, this is the most amount of customization and “I carry a big stick” style of play in WvW.

Fluffball.8307:

Durzlla.6295:

Nah, my very first pet that I almost never swap out forgets his name EVERY TIME I swap him for another pet, yet my brown bear Beary Bearington has never once forgot his name no matter how many times I’ve swapped him or how long I leave him “stowed”

So there is some type of permanence. I don’t know what it is, but something is causing my cats to retain their names no matter what I do, and something is causing your bear to retain it’s name.

You like peanut brittle ?

I went full zerk on mine, but very dangerous, used runes of scholar but eagle are good too. For the swap weapon you’re only legitimate weapon would be short bow to escape. I traited zerk and gain extra vigor on dodge, worked out to 3 dodge rolls back to back. I played range gingerbread style with withdraw/roll for initiative and the 25% speed signet, which helps for aoe blind on a stomp (pistol 5 for the one down).

It is fun, but very squishy, for d/d thieves and other melee pistol 5 with auto attack helps keep them blind if they’re not smart enough to realize it. My favorite combo was steal ranger skill, drop it blast it with pistol 5, dagger storm, or even steal warrior, drop pistol 5 and warrior skill for good aoe dps. But it is very initiative hungry.

My sigils are accuracy and lightning on one side, and hydromancy and energy on shortbow.

Potatoe fries = Meta

Dead Muppet.9718:

Littlefeather.8623:

Dead Muppet.9718:

Speaking on my experience as a zerk longbow ranger… in spvp

Longbow 3 fails way too much. A lot of it due to lag. This needs to be changed to 100% chance to stealth.

This alone has cost me countless deaths where I ‘may’ have come out ontop.

As a defensive ability is is completely unreliable for a spec that really should NOT be backpeddling in order to land the stealth.

Longbow #4 also fails too much for the same reasons & also ‘may’ have changed the fight many times for me.

Pets with zerker spec are near to useless. The ONLY time I feel a pet has helped is when I keep wolf on swap for when a melee closes the gap so I switch for the knockdown followed by fear. Otherwise I have all but given up on pets.

Three Minutes

Which pets do you use? I think using a pet purely for the skill is not maximizing pets. Birds and Cats, you’d be surprised by the DPS.

Birds have less dps than cats due to the cast of swiftness which allows a gap between actual damage abilities. Also with playing longbow zerkittenep maximum range and with pathing and the distance combined pets damage isnt a factor as much as kiting.

Lastly in spvp where players are fighting on a tiny circle spamming aoe the pet dies. I dont understand where maximizing pets comes into play here.

If I were playing a melee build then sure it would…. where I pointed about before I save my wolf for the swap knockdown and fear should I need to melee. Otherwise my 2nd pet is a poor dps addition.

Id settle for 3 on longbow just working

I’m not sure how much range is between Mid and top of side stair cases in temple but My Pet still goes down to mid circle when I command it to. Also, one of the biggest misconceptions in PvP is having to be on the circle. You don’t, at all; use your advantage as a range build, I know I do. If I win the fight from range I go cap it after I down them, If I come to the conclusion I will loose I can escape very easily at that range with GS.

Amonatory.2453:

Littlefeather.8623:

Amonatory.2453:

Littlefeather.8623:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Funny how everyone says thieves while everyone are thieves,so you can kill each other easly,bad logic.

It’s not bad logic. When I roam I always find thieves but they are never even remotely good. Even in PvP thieves are awful, so it’s actually logical to say that we think killing other thieves is easy because it literally is. Someone feel free to say I’m not right, how often do you find a good thief? Very rarely.

And yet, every one here says that thief is the easiest target on thief forum(which imply that they are thieves mostly). I find alot of good thieves in pvp,cause I do alot of tpvp.Hotjoins dosn’t count y’know

It’s like all saying that they get the upperhand against all cows and they all are a cows!

You think I hotjoin? Are you high? I do only Tpvp and never hotjoin, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Sorry if you took it to the wrong way,didn’t ment to be disrespectful.

No I took it the only way to take it. You basically stated that I do hotjoins because I think most pvp thieves are bad. No, I think they are bad because most try to fight me and just have no clue what they are doing not in hotjoins but in tpvp. I still stick with what I said earlier, thieves are easy to beat because they need to l2p.

I didnt state anything,I was just saying that hotjoins dosn’t count as an example,I dont know who you are and how skilled you are,which I obviously know now based on your comment.So forgive me for my lack of knowledge about the best thieves in the world which you clearly are base on your post.And forgive me again for saying thieves earlier,I ment the best thief in the world.

Yeah man you got me. I clearly stated to be the best thief ever. Also saying that you stated nothing is absolutely stupid, you assumed that because I said most pvp thieves don’t know how to play the class and stated that I hotjoin. I’m not understanding what you’re trying to get at tbh, you don’t know me so you “state” things that aren’t true, learn things before you talk.

^ This guy is a troll on the forums, and he’s probly a troll in the game too, maybe even a bum living in his parents’ basement. Anyway nobody knows who you are troll, every one can care less on your opinion about anything here. PS, I don’t even know you but I bet you can’t beat my guard in PvP.

I’m a troll? How am I a troll? I stated my opinion and defended it. I’ll duel your guard if you want, I never claimed to be the best. To your comment about people not knowing me it’s not that big of a deal for people to know me , but my question is… Who are you?

There’s a fine line between defending an opinion and attacking some one else for their own.

You didn’t answer my question… Who are you again?

My name is Emmett, I’m a Network Admin who lives in San Antonio Texas. But was that really important? My point was that you are not a people person and you should not log into forums without taking some kind of reading comprehension.

Amonatory.2453:

Littlefeather.8623:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Funny how everyone says thieves while everyone are thieves,so you can kill each other easly,bad logic.

It’s not bad logic. When I roam I always find thieves but they are never even remotely good. Even in PvP thieves are awful, so it’s actually logical to say that we think killing other thieves is easy because it literally is. Someone feel free to say I’m not right, how often do you find a good thief? Very rarely.

And yet, every one here says that thief is the easiest target on thief forum(which imply that they are thieves mostly). I find alot of good thieves in pvp,cause I do alot of tpvp.Hotjoins dosn’t count y’know

It’s like all saying that they get the upperhand against all cows and they all are a cows!

You think I hotjoin? Are you high? I do only Tpvp and never hotjoin, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Sorry if you took it to the wrong way,didn’t ment to be disrespectful.

No I took it the only way to take it. You basically stated that I do hotjoins because I think most pvp thieves are bad. No, I think they are bad because most try to fight me and just have no clue what they are doing not in hotjoins but in tpvp. I still stick with what I said earlier, thieves are easy to beat because they need to l2p.

I didnt state anything,I was just saying that hotjoins dosn’t count as an example,I dont know who you are and how skilled you are,which I obviously know now based on your comment.So forgive me for my lack of knowledge about the best thieves in the world which you clearly are base on your post.And forgive me again for saying thieves earlier,I ment the best thief in the world.

Yeah man you got me. I clearly stated to be the best thief ever. Also saying that you stated nothing is absolutely stupid, you assumed that because I said most pvp thieves don’t know how to play the class and stated that I hotjoin. I’m not understanding what you’re trying to get at tbh, you don’t know me so you “state” things that aren’t true, learn things before you talk.

^ This guy is a troll on the forums, and he’s probly a troll in the game too, maybe even a bum living in his parents’ basement. Anyway nobody knows who you are troll, every one can care less on your opinion about anything here. PS, I don’t even know you but I bet you can’t beat my guard in PvP.

I’m a troll? How am I a troll? I stated my opinion and defended it. I’ll duel your guard if you want, I never claimed to be the best. To your comment about people not knowing me it’s not that big of a deal for people to know me , but my question is… Who are you?

There’s a fine line between defending an opinion and attacking some one else for their own.

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Amonatory.2453:

Sandrox.9524:

Funny how everyone says thieves while everyone are thieves,so you can kill each other easly,bad logic.

It’s not bad logic. When I roam I always find thieves but they are never even remotely good. Even in PvP thieves are awful, so it’s actually logical to say that we think killing other thieves is easy because it literally is. Someone feel free to say I’m not right, how often do you find a good thief? Very rarely.

And yet, every one here says that thief is the easiest target on thief forum(which imply that they are thieves mostly). I find alot of good thieves in pvp,cause I do alot of tpvp.Hotjoins dosn’t count y’know

It’s like all saying that they get the upperhand against all cows and they all are a cows!

You think I hotjoin? Are you high? I do only Tpvp and never hotjoin, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Sorry if you took it to the wrong way,didn’t ment to be disrespectful.

No I took it the only way to take it. You basically stated that I do hotjoins because I think most pvp thieves are bad. No, I think they are bad because most try to fight me and just have no clue what they are doing not in hotjoins but in tpvp. I still stick with what I said earlier, thieves are easy to beat because they need to l2p.

I didnt state anything,I was just saying that hotjoins dosn’t count as an example,I dont know who you are and how skilled you are,which I obviously know now based on your comment.So forgive me for my lack of knowledge about the best thieves in the world which you clearly are base on your post.And forgive me again for saying thieves earlier,I ment the best thief in the world.

Yeah man you got me. I clearly stated to be the best thief ever. Also saying that you stated nothing is absolutely stupid, you assumed that because I said most pvp thieves don’t know how to play the class and stated that I hotjoin. I’m not understanding what you’re trying to get at tbh, you don’t know me so you “state” things that aren’t true, learn things before you talk.

^ This guy is a troll on the forums, and he’s probly a troll in the game too, maybe even a bum living in his parents’ basement. Anyway nobody knows who you are troll, every one can care less on your opinion about anything here. PS, I don’t even know you but I bet you can’t beat my guard in PvP.

Dahkeus.8243:

Holland.9351:

To give them a break: They would have to store 44 names for each ranger in the game. Now they only have to store 2 names, which is already 2 more than any other class.

If you can come up with a solution for them without having to store 44 names for each Ranger in the game, then I’m sure they would be glad to hear it.

If they can store the visual appearance with every customization slider setting, hair color, armor set, armor color, current pets, current equipped weapons, current achievements, original story/personality setting, etc. for every single player in the game, then I don’t see why they can’t contain a simple string value (name) for each pet, especially considering that most rangers don’t have each of the 44 available pets.

That’s the thing, the way the DB was probably setup is accounts/characters were the meat and potatoes, if Pet names were not a static feature by design it no programmer would re write the entire DB for that reason alone. The coders would have to add these values to the account/character, and yes with the capacity for 44 values per ranger.

Holland.9351:

To give them a break: They would have to store 44 names for each ranger in the game. Now they only have to store 2 names, which is already 2 more than any other class.

If you can come up with a solution for them without having to store 44 names for each Ranger in the game, then I’m sure they would be glad to hear it.

^ Batch files that load into the SQL DB associated to the account/character, since the infrastructure is set in place, they can always add to, the easiest way would be batch files upon login.

CMF.5461:

Facts:
hit for 6k with smite condition (confirmed)
used healing meditations (probable)
target had around 2200 armor (confirmed)

Speculation:
14k hp (possible)

Based on a build editor, the only way to get a 6k smite condition on a 2200 armor target is to have full/most zerker gear, 10% burning, 10% condition target, 25 stacks of might and/or vulnerability stacks.

So 2 or 3 in zeal, at least 5 in radiance, and 6 in valor.

This puts the player at around 10k health, but the OP said it “felt” like 14k life. The “feel” may have been based on how much damage his attacks did to the hp bar percentage, and blocks/blinds can attribute to lower damage being done, as well as protection and incoming healing in bursts. So I put less merit in the total life and base it on actual damage done.

Sounds like he was a glassy meditation build with high burst. 2/5/6/x/x
Probably wearing enough zerk for at least 210-220% crit damage, and most likely runes with damage modifiers on them as well, like scholar or strength.

Based on damage reported done and game mechanics, that seems like the only way to achieve 6k damage on a smite condition to a 2200 armor target.

Fact: Teef lost
Fact: None of us can proove anything, not even if 6k hits were crit or not.

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Littlefeather.8623:

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The warrior will most likely use stability while gapclosing, so you’re not able to kick him back. The 3 seconds stealth are only good if you want to run away. You wont be able to reposition yourself. All of the GS skills are highly telegraphed, so an experienced player will simply dodge or run out of your range. As for the damage: Warrior sword/axe/greatsword > ranger greatsword. So I honestly can’t see why a warrior should lose to a power ranger.

Have you used a GS against a melee? You do know the auto attack evades melee direct hits right?

The enemy knows that too lol.

Some do, not all, moot point. I don’t always melee with GS, but when I do no matter if glass warrior or glass teef they go down first. I’m glass too, and yes even teefs try to take me on toe to toe like a boo boo head…

Dead Muppet.9718:

Speaking on my experience as a zerk longbow ranger… in spvp

Longbow 3 fails way too much. A lot of it due to lag. This needs to be changed to 100% chance to stealth.

This alone has cost me countless deaths where I ‘may’ have come out ontop.

As a defensive ability is is completely unreliable for a spec that really should NOT be backpeddling in order to land the stealth.

Longbow #4 also fails too much for the same reasons & also ‘may’ have changed the fight many times for me.

Pets with zerker spec are near to useless. The ONLY time I feel a pet has helped is when I keep wolf on swap for when a melee closes the gap so I switch for the knockdown followed by fear. Otherwise I have all but given up on pets.

Three Minutes

Which pets do you use? I think using a pet purely for the skill is not maximizing pets. Birds and Cats, you’d be surprised by the DPS.

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

The warrior will most likely use stability while gapclosing, so you’re not able to kick him back. The 3 seconds stealth are only good if you want to run away. You wont be able to reposition yourself. All of the GS skills are highly telegraphed, so an experienced player will simply dodge or run out of your range. As for the damage: Warrior sword/axe/greatsword > ranger greatsword. So I honestly can’t see why a warrior should lose to a power ranger.

Have you used a GS against a melee? You do know the auto attack evades melee direct hits right?

Kill it with fire.

Dungeons are a joke…There’s “certain” ways to run them, you can’t play the way you want to play, if you do than you get the boot. Stacking in a little corner is fast sure, but I’m sure the designer’s did not intend it to be this way. Every dungeon is a burn session and it’s sad, but whatever.

Play what fit’s your personal play style, you would be surprised at how many other players can beat all of these “popular” players. The build/class does not make the player, the player makes the build/class.

In WvW, sure I’ll give you that much. For some reason ANET decided to shove all the “Support” down the guardians’ throat and let warrior have the cool guy toys. I wont event play my guardian in WvW anymore I’m so sick of the way people expect us to play.

Unit’s Per Second;

262.5 Combat Speed w/ Signet Vs. 210 Combat Speed w/o Signet
367.5 OOC Speed w/ Signet Vs. 294 OOC Speed w/o Signet

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Movement_speed

Signet that makes you run faster, GS for leap

Hunter.4783:

Seems like a L2Play issue to me.

The guardian burst comes from shield of wrath, (focus #5) which is on a 45 sec cooldown and telegraphed as kitten as well as from torch 4 which is on 15 sec cooldown.

Beside that, the guard has autoattacks as the next most threatening thing.

As long as u dodge out of focus 5 burst his measly 14k health should be gone in seconds if u get a BS down.

If u play aggressive, a glass cannon guardian simply has no means to take such punishment

^ This guy is troll…

It’s not a L2P issue, If anyone thinks Focus #5 is burst…well

But anyway, this guard definitively built to 1v1 fast, He probably had Judges Intervention to make or close gaps, smite meditation and that other one for the condi’s (forget the name), let me guess he healed with Shelter or Signet doesnt matter but yea; I love fighting teefs on my guard too.

You know the GS gives us basically two interupts? nice crit, nice evade and a gap closer / maker ?

If I have the LB pulled out and I get into trouble before I get them low, I just knock back or stealth and heal up and escape out with GS or get back in the fight.

And I know how guards, warriors, necros, mesmers, teefs and most engis play, As I have all 80’s of them and Champ titles for Guard and Teef.

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Littlefeather.8623:

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Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Glass teefs fall down infront of me at 900 range…
LB#4 or Auto Attack, right before they heal/stealth Sic’Em, volley, by this time they’re about 15%-5% HP or down if full glass, if they shadow refuge than barrage. During this you have to keep your pet on him.

Yeah thieves do… But warriors won’t. Well played guardians won’t. Most of the mesmers won’t. Engies most likely won’t. Non-zerker ele won’t. Necros take a kittenin long time to kill. Just because you can beat one single build doesn’t mean it’s good.

Ah, but thats where the 1500 kiting comes into play, even if warrior or guard closes gap I pull out my GS and go to work on them toe to toe, the only damage i would take is aoe. If it’s too much I switch back to LB than kite some more and just keep rotating through. Fights like that are actually fun and you get to learn some new things. I use Sigil of Hydromancy and Energy on my GS, and Fire and Bloodlust on my LB, full zerk stats and traits, anything glass I can kill, I only have hard times with PVT’s.

Who care’s what others think, you play how ever you want to play. You win some you loose some no big deal.

Are you shocked when you get 2 hit by Thief? No, not if I am glass

Or Permastun by HamBow?, Running without stun breaker are we?

Or kitten d by Necros? No, not If I dont use my range and kiting abilities

Or die to Mesmer burst in 3 sec? No, because I have a stun break and escape and blocks with GS…

Buy another sigil…./thread

I don’t know what the biggest complaints are. I have played since Headstart and my first was Guard. I started in PvE, than WvW and PvP, than I made a Warrior, than Necro, Teef, Mesmer, Engi, now I made a Ranger. And it’s glass beserker, since I am very well oriented in 1v1 PvP I can play glass safely maybe. I can back line in WvW without getting downed, and 1v1 any class (although I only loose to mesmers) I know when it’s important to kite, use my pet’s skills, heal for myself and my pet, escape, CC, etc. I build and spec for 1v1 though, but the range AoE and attacks are added bonuses IMO for WvW especially. I use LB and GS, I DPS at range, and know when to escape with GS.

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Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Glass teefs fall down infront of me at 900 range…
LB#4 or Auto Attack, right before they heal/stealth Sic’Em, volley, by this time they’re about 15%-5% HP or down if full glass, if they shadow refuge than barrage. During this you have to keep your pet on him.

oZii.2864:

cleansing that matches application this is a pipe dream.

Yes, yes it is.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Littlefeather.8623:

Toughness should include some Condi resistance…

Then Knight’s gear becomes THE best set in the game because nothing would counter high toughness.

No.

Well my friend, some classes have very low health pools. While those classes have condi removals, they do not have enough condi removal for the frequency of condi application. Condi resistance in Toughness stat would let me play my power build with low HP and some condi removal without dropping from ranged condi’s in less than 8 seconds. But you must be on the other side of the fence…

Toughness should include some Condi resistance…

Consider a Guardian Twerk.

Now with that in mind, I do like the added cripple on Binding Blade idea.

Aurust.8961:

Anet has done a wonderful job on movement capabilities.

Warrior > Lifts all the time so can run very fast. Also does alot of squats so he can savage leap and break bolas with his powerful thighs ( dogged march)

Gaurdian > Doesnt lift as much and reads more books, so slow due to wearing heavy armor.

Elementalist > Doesn’t lift but uses air magic to move.

Thief > Does alot of ninja training and cardio to do backflips and stuff

Ranger > Does alot of cardio and probably trains with animals so good mobility here. Probably does a good amount of squats using logs and probably lifts rocks.

Engineer > Doesnt lift but has rockets to move around. Emergency Edit Probably reads alot also about machines and metals.

Necro > I doubt they lift, but some might get strong from digging up graves or whatever. Also has magic. Probably reads a good amount as well, def reads less than ele imo, but not sure if they read more books than guardians.

Mesmer > Def doesnt lift just practices magic tricks, so they are the slowest class.

Lifting (Muscle Endurance) has nothing to do with Cardio (Cardiovascular Endurance)

A stealthless teef never knows what you’re going to run into, SB for the win.

Inherently, guards are not optimal DPS classes, but there are a couple niche’s. And if you find it AND if it can fit your play style you’re good. But it’s not easy to find.

Kill shot warriors, and Teef’s big difference…You take a Teef, you can solo roam no probrem, you take a Kill Shot warrior, sowwie no solo roam for you.

Very true/password -l admin password

Keksmuffin.1450:

Archmortal.1027:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Empowering-Wrath-DPS-Build-Stella-Alamarr

Sounds like it works just fine.

Nah that build has meh burst, meh support and no range dmg, definetly not tpvp viable imo.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR7dlsApcoVDxbI8DVR8QlZK+i2UVAgz1/QQkDA-TJBFwACuIAo2foaZAAPBAA

^This is the best from my experience (more than 1000 torna games on dps guard and currently on rank 19 on eu teamq ladder).

Unscathed Contender, Deal more Damage while under the effects of Aegis.

I’ve always wandered about that trait, does that basically mean you deal 20% more damage until you’re hit (and loose aegis)? If so, how is that practical?

I see you have 4 sigils to proc in crit, how does that work in reality with 37% crit chance?

I liked the mediation build too, but i used fighter runes with mine.

Now I run my own burn build, its fun, different, they really dont know how to fight it either lol

Realist.5812:

This again?

A warrior built for mobility has terrible damage output, terrible group support, and terrible everything EXCEPT mobility. If you get killed by one, you weren’t playing well enough, because it is one if the worst builds for combat EVER.

(insert the 500 other reasons from other threads that even the OP posted in and knows off by heart)

By the way, it makes perfect sense for the athlete to outrun a bookworm. Fantasy broken my buttocks. The fantasy would be broken if the bookworm outran the athlete.

/thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/The-YOLO-Frenzy-Troll-Build-1/first#post4025578

I’d like to fly across the map with my GS too.

As a solo roamer, its disheartening to fight a warrior infront of Red Keep in EB, on the little hilltop infront of the keep. And warriors try to troll with their fear, than get overwhelmed only to easily leap off the cliff into the keep walls and reset the fight. That is just one example, It feels like warriors can just escape any fight they want to, I do not disagree with the idea that players should have those options, but at least make it fair across the board for all classes.

Did you re input your traits?…

Kill it with fire.

Kill it with stab.